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Hello everyone.
After reading lots of reviews and opinions and having the oportunity to use the tablet, im sure i want to buy a Sony Tablet S
Now comes the second decission to make.. ¿Which model? As the title of the post says, im between 32Gb or 16Gb+3G.
I know that whatever the model is, the space for installing apps are the 4GB partition and i think the apps that allow moving to Sd card, in this tablet means moving to the second partition but never to the external sdcard. So... Do you think the 4GB are enough for all kind of apps and games?
About the 3G conexion, thats something i will use mainly during travels. Instead of creating the hotspot with my mobile (and draining its battery), i'll change the SIM card to the tablet. Another option is buying a prepaid SIM with some data-plan to just use with the tablet during those travels, and when i dont have available wifi's.
A requirement would be to have access to music in the external sdcard, but allowing to reproduce a full album. I have the movies part resolved with the MxPlayer, but dont know any beauty music app which allow to do that
Well, any opinion or advice are welcome, so dont hesitate to post it !
Thank you in advance
I'd go with PowerAMP, it works beautiful. Might use WinAMP as well.
But I prefer PowerAMP myself. It can access the external sd-card without problems.
kryddan said:
I'd go with PowerAMP, it works beautiful. Might use WinAMP as well.
But I prefer PowerAMP myself. It can access the external sd-card without problems.
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Thanks for your answer ^^
I think that PowerAMP is not free, but anyway, if is possible to access and reproduce lists and full albums from the external sdcard, my requirment is accomplished so...
¿What would be your choose, 16GB+3G or 32GB?
(Forgot to say in the first post that price difference between both models are just 20€ )
I suppose that you'll bring it around to work or travel, thus with 3G is a better option. And you can buy SD card for more storage and even cheaper.
Hope you will have your own choice. Cheers and welcome to this community
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Kitinz said:
Thanks for your answer ^^
I think that PowerAMP is not free, but anyway, if is possible to access and reproduce lists and full albums from the external sdcard, my requirment is accomplished so...
¿What would be your choose, 16GB+3G or 32GB?
(Forgot to say in the first post that price difference between both models are just 20€ )
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I'd go for the 16GB+3G if the difference is that little, then get yourself a nice SDXC 128GB sd-card and space won't be much of a problem. At least not external. However internal might be eaten after a while if you install to many apps hehe.
Yes I know PowerAMP cost a few $$$ but it's worth it. WinAMP cost too. THough both exist as free-versions for you to try. So you can get the feel for it.
I'd go with the 16GB+3G too. I miss the 3G from my old Galaxy Tab since I got a Wi-Fi version and with full-size SD card and USB storage capabilities, storage isn't a huge problem unless you install stupendous amounts of apps.
Thanxs for all the answers.
The usage of the tablet is not going to be for work, but i'll bring it in my own travels where i wont have available a 3G network since the cost of using it in other countries are so expensive
I also found a nice music player (Meridian player), which allow to reproduce lists from the external sdcard, so with MxPlayer and Meridian i got covered the multimedia part.
Im also planning to use the tablet for playing games from psn, gameloft and emulators, so what bothers me is that the 16GB version only have around 8.5GB in the usb storage and im quite sure that all this kind of games cant be installed in the external sd.
How much space does this games take up in the usb storage? I know that having 3G is a great option, but im almost deciding on the 32 version just for this reason
Kitinz said:
Thanxs for all the answers.
Im also planning to use the tablet for playing games from psn, gameloft and emulators, so what bothers me is that the 16GB version only have around 8.5GB in the usb storage and im quite sure that all this kind of games cant be installed in the external sd.
How much space does this games take up in the usb storage? I know that having 3G is a great option, but im almost deciding on the 32 version just for this reason
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Most of the gameloft games I've seen have been about 250MB worth of SD card data (maximum, although there's been reports of them taking up to 1GB), so you'd still be able to fit plenty of stuff on there. If you're that worried about it, sure, get the 32GB, but I think it's more about how you're going to use it.
I myself went with the 16GB as I already have an additional 16GB SD Card.
I have a MP3 player that I keep most of my music on, I mostly keep movies on my tablet.
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I myself went with the 16GB as I already have an additional 16GB SD Card.
I have a MP3 player that I keep most of my music on, I mostly keep movies on my tablet.
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Same here. I bought the 16GB version, since I already have 16GB and 8GB SD cards handy. Plus, once I bought my USB OTG cable I just keep movies on a 16GB USB and transfer them to the SD card one at a a time. Works a treat for me.
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Most of the gameloft games I've seen have been about 250MB worth of SD card data (maximum, although there's been reports of them taking up to 1GB)
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That's cause the only ones available on the Tablet S are worthless P.O.S. compared to the ones unavailable.
Games such as backstab HD, NOVA 2HD, Modern combat 2 and 3, 9mm etc have pretty much 600mb minimum.
w/ full sized SD cards available, 32gb isn't necessary at all as we've confirmed up to 128Gb SDXC cards working.
16Gb is more than enough for app / games storage (how many 1Gb games do you play?) in my opinon, but of course consider your own usage scenario
hi all!
i have found a way that works to free up space and transfer apps and games to the micro sd card on my prime.
my prime is on 9.4.2.21 and rooted.
got GL to SD a free app.
so now ive got loads of free space on my prime, put a 32gb micro card in.
there are reports it cant run on ics....but it does.
any probs...ask me for any help.
have fun
Ty for info. I'll make use of this if i ever get low on storage... Doubt it will ever happen tho I keep movies etc on my micro sd card or sd card.
sharps said:
hi all!
i have found a way that works to free up space and transfer apps and games to the micro sd card on my prime.
my prime is on 9.4.2.21 and rooted.
got GL to SD a free app.
so now ive got loads of free space on my prime, put a 32gb micro card in.
there are reports it cant run on ics....but it does.
any probs...ask me for any help.
have fun
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i tried gl to sd didnt work on my prime its on v9.4.2.28, on ics 4.0.3 i really would like to know how to do it and my prime is rooted aswell! please help got a 64gb micro sd catching dust! while my 32gb internal is getting filled up so easily
I have used that app on my NOTE and it is really a hit or miss thing do I gave up on this.
It seems something so simple to have Android install anywhere we want but sadly so far is just a dream :\
baller625 said:
i tried gl to sd didnt work on my prime its on v9.4.2.28, on ics 4.0.3 i really would like to know how to do it and my prime is rooted aswell! please help got a 64gb micro sd catching dust! while my 32gb internal is getting filled up so easily
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Hi baller,
I also have a 64gb sandisk ultra I am running, when you format the card, you need to use fat32 with a 16kb cluster size. I you just have the one partition you will end up with approx 59gb of space. I used MiniTool Partiton, free for home use. Anyway, that was my first setup, now I have a 28gb fat32 partiton and a 31gb ext4 partition. I am running the mod from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1803252 on blackbean 3 with the modified boot.blob from YoMark. If you try this out, and download and of the modified boot.blob files, make sure when you insert them into the rom that you change the name to be boot.blob. Each one is specific to a certain rom so don't try to mix and match... class 10 card works the best for this but I think some people have used class 6 also... depends on the brand of card mostly...
Link2SD is the app i've been using since gingerbread up until jellybean. works like a charm. it's free, too!
Hey guys!
This being my first thread here, I hope it is in the right section
Here is my problem
I am looking to buy a new smartphone, and came up with the Sone Xperia ZR, its just around my budget (did not buy it yet, still looking around)
specs wise it is very good, but however there is one drawback, it has 8 Gb internal, (can be extended tough)
I think nowadays 8Gigs is like, nothing..
so my possible sollution was this,
I was going to get an sd card for it, install apps on my phones internal memory but install HD games on the sd card with apps2sd (the one that does not require root)
also movies and music... go to the sd card
what do you think, is this realistic and will it work? I think for normal apps about 4.5(?) gigs should be enough as most of them don't take alof of space, and I am not planning to install 200 apps anyway
Regards
U will have better performence if u intall all in internal mem.
Sd for music and vidz
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Hello all,
Question for you guys/gals, i ordered the Z2 and expecting delivery today. I am now looking at microSD cards. I notice some inconsistency in the MicroSD card capacity from different sites. Anyone know if the 128 works with the Z2?
Sony's site: Expansion slot: microSD™ card, up to 64 GB (SDXC supported) Clicky
Phone Arena: microSD, microSDHC, microSDXC up to 128 GB Clicky
GSMArena: microSD, up to 128 GB Clicky
Thanks in advance!
It shoyld support it mate, I wouldn't worry about it
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128 gb should be no problem
I got my wife a Z1 Compact and am (im)patiently waiting for my Z2 to arrive. I ordered a mess of the SanDisk 128GB cards when Amazon first got them in about 2 months ago. I've yet to put one in something and have it not work properly. Works perfect in the Z1 Compact, so I would think that there would be no issues with the Z2.
I should warn you however that the performance is pretty painful. Coming from SanDisk's 64GB extreme plus, the speed of something that just makes the cut to be a class 10 is a little disappointing. For me capacity comes before performance almost every time - my Go Pro probably being the lone exception.
Thanks all. Very much appreciate the responses.
roninr1c said:
Hello all,
Question for you guys/gals, i ordered the Z2 and expecting delivery today. I am now looking at microSD cards. I notice some inconsistency in the MicroSD card capacity from different sites. Anyone know if the 128 works with the Z2?
Sony's site: Expansion slot: microSD™ card, up to 64 GB (SDXC supported) Clicky
Phone Arena: microSD, microSDHC, microSDXC up to 128 GB Clicky
GSMArena: microSD, up to 128 GB Clicky
Thanks in advance!
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I have a 128gb in my Z2, only got the phone yesterday, no problems so far
My 64GB card is showing up as a 64GB card but I'm yet to find a way to actually get anything onto it. The only way I got stuff on is when the phone's internal capacity was getting full (already! after one day!) and it offered to move stuff (movies, music, photos) to the SD card. It managed to yet none of my file manager software on the phone, or when connected directly to PC, or via WiFi File Explorer, or even when the card is directly in the PC with an adaptor, lets me put an actual file on it. I can create a new folder if I'm lucky, that's it.
It's a beautiful phone but the SD card is doing my head in. I've a Sony 64GB SDXC so it should work a treat... have I missed something? Like an option somewhere to actually allow writing data from the card by the user rather than just when the phone says it's okay?
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My 64GB card is showing up as a 64GB card but I'm yet to find a way to actually get anything onto it. The only way I got stuff on is when the phone's internal capacity was getting full (already! after one day!) and it offered to move stuff (movies, music, photos) to the SD card. It managed to yet none of my file manager software on the phone, or when connected directly to PC, or via WiFi File Explorer, or even when the card is directly in the PC with an adaptor, lets me put an actual file on it. I can create a new folder if I'm lucky, that's it.
It's a beautiful phone but the SD card is doing my head in. I've a Sony 64GB SDXC so it should work a treat... have I missed something? Like an option somewhere to actually allow writing data from the card by the user rather than just when the phone says it's okay?
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Yes, you missed Kitkat restrictions. :/
KyleSforza said:
Yes, you missed Kitkat restrictions. :/
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That doesn't seem right.
So according to you I can't put music on my SD Card; I can record movies and photos on the phone onto the SD card but cannot transfer them to a PC, and I can't basically do ANYTHING with files on the SD card on my phone?
That doesn't sound right. What's the point of having an SD Card slot at all then? I thought the Kit Kat restrictions applies to apps, not general files. If you're right I'll have to change to another phone as that is a step backwards. It was SO easy on my Xperia S.
So far I've had to upload all my photos & movies I've taken since getting the Z2 to Dropbox and then download them on my PC from there, which is taking HOURS. I'm then going to format the card and see if that helps (I did not format it on insertion as it showed up OK and all seems well but my PC won't read it even in a reader).
This don't seem right. I'll update later (it will, as I said, be hours) with a solution to this in case anyone else is having the issue I'm having.
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That doesn't seem right.
So according to you I can't put music on my SD Card; I can record movies and photos on the phone onto the SD card but cannot transfer them to a PC, and I can't basically do ANYTHING with files on the SD card on my phone?
That doesn't sound right. What's the point of having an SD Card slot at all then? I thought the Kit Kat restrictions applies to apps, not general files. If you're right I'll have to change to another phone as that is a step backwards. It was SO easy on my Xperia S.
So far I've had to upload all my photos & movies I've taken since getting the Z2 to Dropbox and then download them on my PC from there, which is taking HOURS. I'm then going to format the card and see if that helps (I did not format it on insertion as it showed up OK and all seems well but my PC won't read it even in a reader).
This don't seem right. I'll update later (it will, as I said, be hours) with a solution to this in case anyone else is having the issue I'm having.
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The restrictions that kitkat impose are that applications cannot write to anywhere on the sdcard and must use their own folder on an sdcard. Applications that have rootaccess are able to bypass this limitation including some pre-installed apps such as the camera, walkman and file commander application.
I have all my music and videos stored on my sd card and have no trouble accessing them and I copy them across in media-transfer mode via usb cable on my pc.
When you attach the sd card to your pc, are you doing it through your phone or via a card reader etc?
Situation has changed a little now - I can now view the card correctly on my PC.
It's because I'm stubbornly still on XP (I am NOT moving to Vista, 7 or 8 any time in the future!) so I needed an update to enable SDXC cards, otherwise it just gets stuck saying "card isn't formatted, do you want to format it? (yes) Oh, formatting failed" etc.
In case anyone else has problems like this the update is KB955704, available from link below.
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=19364
This means I can now just pull the card from my Z2 and stick my music etc. on from there, and pull the photos etc off from there.
It seems even when connecting to PC via the phone's USB lead there are problems until this update is in - I could see the files but not edit them, move, copy, etc etc which is what was REALLY confusing me.
Sorry if I seemed a bit noobie about that. I've actually been flashing my phones, tinkering etc for years and years but I guess I've not had an SDXC card before so didn't realise it wouldn't play ball.
MUCH better now - I don't really care what the KitKat limitations are now I can just transfer files "properly".
Cheers for the explanation about KitKat though, that is very useful.
So I wasted a day transferring files via Dropbox when a poxy Windows update would have solved it. You live and learn. I hope I can save someone else the hassle!
The pre-installed File Commander can write to the internal storage. So getting files onto the external add card is two stages. I copy over WiFi from my NAS to internal storage using ES file explorer, then copy from internal to external using file commander.
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ericjennings said:
The pre-installed File Commander can write to the internal storage. So getting files onto the external add card is two stages. I copy over WiFi from my NAS to internal storage using ES file explorer, then copy from internal to external using file commander.
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Thanks for that, I found that File Commander trick earlier. Problem I had to get around was I went nuts and installed every single app I ever bought but couldn't use properly on my old phones - namely the GTA games which were broken for my Xperia S. I ran out of internal storage within hours of getting my Z2... I got over-excited. I've calmed down now and deleted a load so there's more space and my SD card works fine now when in a card reader.
I've never been able to manage files directly from Explorer on my PC though when the phone is directly connected, either on the S and now the Z2. I think it worked to a point on my Xperia X10 but I mostly used Wifi File Explorer... which isn't working on my Z2 unfortunately, probably due to the Kit Kat restrictions mentioned.
I can kind of see why they did that - my phones used to get full of mystery folders full of crap over time - but it's a shame it breaks a lot of the old ways I used to get things done.
Anyway I apologise if we've gone off topic but thanks everyone for your very helpful hints and advice. I'm actually looking forward to getting my O2 Xperia Z tablet with the bundled offer (£99 for an Xperia Z tablet, yes please O2!) because it will most likely be permanently stuck on good, old-fashioned Jelly Bean. I've not seen much in Kit Kat that has thrilled me. I don't think I'd update to Kit Kat if I had a choice given how firmly a grip of your nuts they have now.
Cheers!
Hey guys with the 128gb card. How does 4K video go when writing to the card? Is it fast enough?
robt772000 said:
Hey guys with the 128gb card. How does 4K video go when writing to the card? Is it fast enough?
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Hi I don't have a 128gb in mines but rather a Sandisk ULTRA 64Gb class 10 SDXC card.
I shot a 2 minute 4k video this afternoon which was saved directly onto the SDcard and on playback there seemed to be no problems whatsoever playing it back.
I hope that helps.
I have a 128gb card. Just recorded 1 minute of 4k to sd card and played back without problems. File size 391mb.
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What sort of write speeds do you get?
I'm thinking of buying this to replace my 64gb card.
Hi!
Will be the 8gb internal memory enough for some apps and ocasionally games (moves to sd if can)?
What is standard app size for lollipop? (i.e. facebook, instagram or something)
snopkowsky said:
Hi!
Will be the 8gb internal memory enough for some apps and ocasionally games (moves to sd if can)?
What is standard app size for lollipop? (i.e. facebook, instagram or something)
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with a bit clean up of apps you dont need (oem apps), you have about 1,8-2 gb of free storage....
at the moment i have a few installed apps (like ebay, amazon, dropbox and so on.... about 13 apps) and have 1,3 gb free storage...
its okay... but root & link2sd would make the whole thing easier
btw. sry for my bad english
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with a bit clean up of apps you dont need (oem apps), you have about 1,8-2 gb of free storage....
at the moment i have a few installed apps (like ebay, amazon, dropbox and so on.... about 13 apps) and have 1,3 gb free storage...
its okay... but root & link2sd would make the whole thing easier
btw. sry for my bad english
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thanks for reply.
what about lollipop's move to sd? how much data it can move on to sdcard?
and what size is i.e. this ebay or amazon, or dropbox app?
snopkowsky said:
thanks for reply.
what about lollipop's move to sd? how much data it can move on to sdcard?
and what size is i.e. this ebay or amazon, or dropbox app?
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it depends on the app you want to move to sd... i would say about 30-50% of the app size u can move to sd card...
all my apps i have added are about 600mb ... and at the moment i have about 1,3 gb of free storage...
I hope there will be a good root solution, since 8GB is not enough at all. My Xperia V has also 8GB (mid-range device from 2012! WTF Sony?!) and I suffered a lot, even if I used bloatware-free system (CyanogenMod), until I found a very useful guide which helped to re-partition my internal memory and increased my data partition from 2 to 4GB. I hope something similar could be done with M4 too in the future, or at least Link2sd, but we will need root, deadly.
In Vietnamese market, we get the Sony M4 aqua dual with 8Gb! We are all suffering a lots, mostly from those who want to play games with big data.
8 Gigs would be enough if they didn't put so much crap on it. Buy 16 Gig version if you have a chance.
I also sold my 8GB version and bought a new one from Amazon.fr with 16GB (dual-sim). Much much better...
I have one from the last 15 days and i'm very disapointed with it.
The phone already acuses lack of memory and said to uninstall apk and i already took of a lot of stuff from vodafone.
And there are a lot of bugs also.
The SD card is always disconecting, after only reboot everything stays ok without do nothing more.