The Nexus 10 was the first 10" tablet I had and it was the most enjoyable tablet I had. Haptic feedback, camera flash, two decent sounding speakers, and the screen size were all pretty nice bonuses.
I'm looking to buy another tablet in the future. Ideally, I want 10" or larger, and the ability to use custom ROMs (does the N10 still have official Cyanogenmod support?) or even better, native Linux. The Nexus 10 seems pretty affordable nowadays, and as long as I can throw a clean ROM onto it (AOSP or CM), I'd be pretty good to go.
So, would a Nexus 10 be a good investment nowadays, or is there another tablet that would be a better choice?
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The Nexus 10 was the first 10" tablet I had and it was the most enjoyable tablet I had. Haptic feedback, camera flash, two decent sounding speakers, and the screen size were all pretty nice bonuses.
I'm looking to buy another tablet in the future. Ideally, I want 10" or larger, and the ability to use custom ROMs (does the N10 still have official Cyanogenmod support?) or even better, native Linux. The Nexus 10 seems pretty affordable nowadays, and as long as I can throw a clean ROM onto it (AOSP or CM), I'd be pretty good to go.
So, would a Nexus 10 be a good investment nowadays, or is there another tablet that would be a better choice?
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I bought mine in Dec. of 2012 and still use it every day. I've tried a lot of ROMs in the last 3 years, but I keep coming back to the rooted stock ROM (link below). It 's still getting regular security updates and just seems to run the best. I find no reason to go out and buy anything newer, this tab just keeps going and going. I say Go For It!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-10/development/rom-21-11-2014-t2948203
I think N10 is still a good tablet (I'm writing this on mine), especially if you don't intend to run modern games on it. For browsing , youtube and occasional simple productivity tasks - it's just great. Mine is 2 years old now and I think I'll keep it for another year at least. Will try putting marshmellow on it though, I'm just curious like that
As for alternatives, I'd say Sony xperia Z4 tablet is by far the best tablet out there right now. A friend got it recently and it's just great, really. Light, thin, great display (same resolution as N10) and battery life. And it has microsd slot. And you can even put AOSP on it, becase Sony provides binaries. Check it out, but it's probably like twice the price of N10.
My Nexus 10 is two years old and I still love it, although it's starting to chug a little more when switching between apps. I don't know that I would buy one today unless it's brand new (probably hard to find these days) and you got a decent deal on it.
I like my wife's Nexus 9, particularly the aspect ratio. I just wish it had that extra inch of screen space.
My N10 runs fast and smooth. I use stock rooted rom. It runs best on the stock rom.
I bought mine two months ago used. Running stock 5.1.1 and it's a bit slow but for what I use which is solely for media consumption it's great. Nice screen real estate and loud speakers.
Yes! I bought mine used aswell , and Running Marshmallow on it very well, very smooth and fast. Nothing to complaint.
I've had mine for a number of years now. Overall I've been pleased with it until recently. I'm having Wifi issues that drive me crazy. Also, it appears there's a major problem with YouTube that causes the tablet to reboot after only a few seconds of video. I get the feeling the device is just not getting the love from the Google developers that it needs.
My parents own one and have the known " yellow smudge" on the display. I would consider a different tablet.
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I've had mine for a number of years now. Overall I've been pleased with it until recently. I'm having Wifi issues that drive me crazy. Also, it appears there's a major problem with YouTube that causes the tablet to reboot after only a few seconds of video. I get the feeling the device is just not getting the love from the Google developers that it needs.
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I'm having the same YouTube problem and it's driving me crazy because that's all I use this tablet for anymore. It's basically useless now.
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I'm having the same YouTube problem and it's driving me crazy because that's all I use this tablet for anymore. It's basically useless now.
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I use mine 85% to view YouTube and over the holidays I finally ditched it and got the Nexus 9.
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Yes! I bought mine used aswell , and Running Marshmallow on it very well, very smooth and fast. Nothing to complaint.
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which M rom are you running ? and is there any big difference in performance on it from the stock 5.1.1?
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I'm having the same YouTube problem and it's driving me crazy because that's all I use this tablet for anymore. It's basically useless now.
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Have you tried clearing the YouTube app cache? This seems to work for me (at least for a good while).
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which M rom are you running ? and is there any big difference in performance on it from the stock 5.1.1?
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Hi, im using OmniRom from scanno, you can find it here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-10/orig-development/rom-t3045066)
There are nice differences yes, I find it smoother and with also better battery life. It works very good in every task I do. Although, I find stock 5.1.1 pretty good also but sometimes I had some crashes on youtube and slowing down performance when using it. If you have more specific questions I would be glad to answer if I can. You should try the ROM !!!
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I'm having the same YouTube problem and it's driving me crazy because that's all I use this tablet for anymore. It's basically useless now.
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In last stock 5.1.1 update I tried to watch 1440p on youtube and my nexus got freezed and rebooted every time I played that resolution. BUT then I flashed OmniRom 6.0.1 and now im able to play 1440p youtube vídeos without trouble!!! The difference onthis display is exquicite. You can find omni ROM here http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-10/orig-development/rom-t3045066
I hope this can save your nexus.
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The Nexus 10 was the first 10" tablet I had and it was the most enjoyable tablet I had. Haptic feedback, camera flash, two decent sounding speakers, and the screen size were all pretty nice bonuses.
I'm looking to buy another tablet in the future. Ideally, I want 10" or larger, and the ability to use custom ROMs (does the N10 still have official Cyanogenmod support?) or even better, native Linux. The Nexus 10 seems pretty affordable nowadays, and as long as I can throw a clean ROM onto it (AOSP or CM), I'd be pretty good to go.
So, would a Nexus 10 be a good investment nowadays, or is there another tablet that would be a better choice?
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I aked that same question in cyanogenmod forums and they answered me they still support nexus 10 devices as the nightlies are still going out, so yes hehe this tablet is still getting support from cyanogen and also from developpers you can find here on xda forums.
Running my beloved N10 with Omnirom 5.1.1... Everythings perfect!
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Running my beloved N10 with Omnirom 5.1.1... Everythings perfect!
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Great! Could you see for us if you can play 1440p youtube videos on your Nexus 10 with Omni 5.1.1 without crushing please?
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Great! Could you see for us if you can play 1440p youtube videos on your Nexus 10 with Omni 5.1.1 without crushing please?
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It's crushing
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It's crushing
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Oh ! well if it isnt a trouble for you I recomend you continue using 5.1.1 , its a very good ROM on performance. But if you wish to try on watching 1440p youtube videos I would recomend you to try OmniRom 6.0.1 version! So you still get Omni features and stability and also with Marshmallow features and battery managment.
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There is also a new AICP build with Marshmallow 6.0.1 running well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-10/development/rom-aicp-11-manta-t3280678
So that you have other options to enjoy
Got mine as a Christmas gift from my wife three years ago. I still use it pretty regularly. The only issue I have is the battery isn't what it used to be (to be expected after 3 years).
Interestingly enough, I still use an AOKP PUB build (Android 4.3, I think - don't have it in front of me) because it was one of the last builds with the ability to have a true tablet UI (back/home/recent buttons on bottom left, status bar/notifications, etc. on bottom right).
I'll probably keep it until it's completely dead. But I'm not sure I have a real need for a tablet. If I'm ever in the market for something else, I'll almost certainly buy a Surface or some other laptop/tablet hybrid.
When I bought my N10 back in early 2013 I thought I wouldn't use it much.. The only thing I regret is getting the 16GB version. I don't think my Note 2 - launched approximately the same time - has been keeping the momentum equally good and it has been upgraded to a N4. But the N10 is aging like wine and I'm impressed to see mine still going after will these years. Would I get a "new" one today? Probably not. But I don't feel a need to upgrade either.
Also as rodeojones writes above.. Do I REALLY need a tablet? Probably not. My N4 is big enough when I'm not at home and when I'm home I usually use my desktop computer. But AICP 11 is working very well...
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hello
i will buy HP TP and i want to know what is the best ICS ROM with mos of things is working ??
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Should I wear my black shoes today or the gray ones?
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Should I wear my black shoes today or the gray ones?
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Pink.
The CM9 nightlies are working great for me
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AOKP has been running great for me.
Classic Nerd and CherryKang working great here.
This is liking who has the best Pizza.. Everyone has a preference.
Since these are APLHA, each will have a plus and minis to them.
CM9 Alpha 2 has nightlies, so they are doing this and that, and it might break CM or not. So staying up to date CM is the way to go.
ClassicNerd and AOKP are also work in progress setting out on updates that are as stable as can be, but, nothing always works perfect. Its ALPHA's per se
I would load in CM first since it all started with them. Test it and if seems stable enough, save it using CWM. Then start checking the CN AOKP Cherries and all..
This is what is nice, you can save anything and test it.. If you LIKE IT, stick with it..
I use both CM9 A2 on my TP and CN on wifes.. No problem with either than no Netflix on CN..But there is always a work around..
My 2 cents.
I've tired just about all of them. While most worked I found most also had one problem or another at least for me. For example some didn't support my HP Bluetooth keyboard properly. IE when using the keyboard the soft-keyboard also poped up and all the keys on the physical keyboard didn't work properly. Others had WiFi issues. Despite connecting to the same WiFi hot spots some ROM's couldn't reliably make a connection while others worked 100% of the time.
In the end I'm using the CM9 nightly since it at a least for me has no issues and everything I use works great, good WiFi, Bluetooth keyboard etc.
should I buy a touchpad if I intend to use android?
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should I buy a touchpad if I intend to use android?
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nope. there's numerous android tablet available in the market. out of the box ready to use.
well if they perform the same, I dont mind to tinker a bit with it. and its cheaper too
cm9 works good
i waited until CM9 A2
its solid, but not perfect (camera not working)
I'm not doing nightlies because there have been a couple problems and don't want to risk bricking anything
ultimately, it is all what you like better, several options.
i'm waiting for beta now
(and btw thank you to those involved in dev work!)
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well if they perform the same, I dont mind to tinker a bit with it. and its cheaper too
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still no. In a month or two, ASUS will be releasing a Google tablet that will likely be better spec'd for less than you can buy a touchpad for today. It will in all likelyhood see just as much love as the touchpad, if not more so due to availability.
hmm.. I could get a used touchpad for $150
#14
but the Asus Tegra3 tablet will be 7'' wich is as close to my phone than to my TP...
7 inch is too small for a Tablet IMO, especially with all the new phones that have a screen size of 4.3''++
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well if they perform the same, I dont mind to tinker a bit with it. and its cheaper too
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I'm like you, I kind of like tinkering. If I wanted a phone/tablet that worked out of the box, I would get an apple (don't hate, you know what I say is true). But I like tinkering, trying new ROMS, and I'm kind of a flashoholic. So I bought the touchpad for 160. Tell me where else you can get this kind of hardware for that price?
I prefer Classicnerd, but right now it doesn't support Netflix and YT HD, so I am on CM9 official nightly. Right now its the most up to date from out there with the new ICS 4.0.4 merge just released from Google. Its sleek fast and right on.
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I have a Touchpad and a Galaxy Tab 10.1 (got it refurb'd). Performance wise, they are very similar (both on ICS). The touchpad actually benchmarks a little bit higher than the GTab.
I'm running AOKP milestone 4 CM9 on both tablets, and I can tell you the TP runs ICS silky smooth. Neither one has a working camera in ICS, but I don't use it, so it's not a bother to me. The TP does tend to have more bugs (wifi for some), and mine had the sleep of death until I disabled the lock screen, and installed a different kernel (don't know which one fixed it, lol).
The G-Tab is a bit nicer, lighter, thinner, and has a better/sharper screen. But for the price, the Touchpad really can't be beat.
why? The touchpad is great for the price! If you can find a cheap one you've struck gold. Look, if you don't like/ want to flash roms get an android tablet. Me, im a flashaholic I like to flash the lasted of everything. Its an addiction I need to stop
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Hey guys how's it going? Just picked up a LG G2 on Verizon this week and its my first time using android since the Galaxy Nexus back on Ice Cream Sandwich. Android has come such a long way since its amazing. Just kind of thinking out loud here but I'm almost considering going back to iOS. By now I thought android would be much smoother than what I have seen running AOSP 4.3 and 4.4 ROMs, not necessarily lag and the phone stuttering but the frame rate of the phone and scrolling just doesn't match iOS which is really a bummer. Does anyone else feel this way? I feel like Android is such a beautiful OS, Google Now is absolutely amazing and android is way better looking and complex than iOS but there's still a couple things that I did like about it. The music app by Google on the phone is pretty laggy and is a little tough to navigate IMO. Does anyone recommend any music players that are better?
Does anyone else feel the frame drop I am experiencing though? Would love to get my hands on a Nexus 5 because I know they have the best optimization possible in most cases.
Also Verizon guys because I know buttons are kind of different, am I gonna get used to thesr buttons or will a case make it any better? They're driving me crazy especially when the phone is laying on a table and I have to pick the phone up to turn it off.
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Hey guys how's it going? Just picked up a LG G2 on Verizon this week and its my first time using android since the Galaxy Nexus back on Ice Cream Sandwich. Android has come such a long way since its amazing. Just kind of thinking out loud here but I'm almost considering going back to iOS. By now I thought android would be much smoother than what I have seen running AOSP 4.3 and 4.4 ROMs, not necessarily lag and the phone stuttering but the frame rate of the phone and scrolling just doesn't match iOS which is really a bummer. Does anyone else feel this way? I feel like Android is such a beautiful OS, Google Now is absolutely amazing and android is way better looking and complex than iOS but there's still a couple things that I did like about it. The music app by Google on the phone is pretty laggy and is a little tough to navigate IMO. Does anyone recommend any music players that are better?
Does anyone else feel the frame drop I am experiencing though? Would love to get my hands on a Nexus 5 because I know they have the best optimization possible in most cases.
Also Verizon guys because I know buttons are kind of different, am I gonna get used to thesr buttons or will a case make it any better? They're driving me crazy especially when the phone is laying on a table and I have to pick the phone up to turn it off.
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I have tried several AOSP roms on the G2 and I find the LG stock rom to be quicker, stable and better battery life etc... at this present time then AOSP. While the stable version was just released yesterday it still needs time to work out the kinks.
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I have tried several AOSP roms on the G2 and I find the LG stock rom to be quicker, stable and better battery life etc... at this present time then AOSP. While the stable version was just released yesterday it still needs time to work out the kinks.
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Yeah just curious as to what's going on because it still seems pretty choppy to me and I am even trying out the new runtime ART. Maybe I'll flash a stock ROM like Clean ROM. Honestly I played with a friends Moto X week or two ago on Verizon on 4.4 and was very impressed!
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Yeah just curious as to what's going on because it still seems pretty choppy to me and I am even trying out the new runtime ART. Maybe I'll flash a stock ROM like Clean ROM. Honestly I played with a friends Moto X week or two ago on Verizon on 4.4 and was very impressed!
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I encourage you to try Clean Rom. And download the trial version of PowerAmp. If you go back to iOS after to listening to this phone running poweramp on a stock based rom, it just wasn't meant to be. I came to this phone after an iphone and I'm telling you with a decent pair of headphones, this phone sounds amazing.
Buttons are a getting used to thing.
I keep turning the phone over to make sure I have it on the right one.
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Also Verizon guys because I know buttons are kind of different, am I gonna get used to thesr buttons or will a case make it any better? They're driving me crazy especially when the phone is laying on a table and I have to pick the phone up to turn it off.
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Stop complaining use knock on and knock off
LG G2
I came from an iPhone5 went for an S4 then this. Never looking back.
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jiteshj said:
Stop complaining use knock on and knock off
LG G2
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No knock off on AOSP
you need to realize that KitKat for LG G2 is in Alpha stage...which means it is not 100% more like 70%...ART isnt even working.
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I encourage you to try Clean Rom. And download the trial version of PowerAmp. If you go back to iOS after to listening to this phone running poweramp on a stock based rom, it just wasn't meant to be. I came to this phone after an iphone and I'm telling you with a decent pair of headphones, this phone sounds amazing.
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THIS! How would you compare your iPhone and your G2? Which one has the better sound with headphones? I mean, both set at the best settings you did on them. It is very important for me, as I can't decide between a G2, a Z1 and an iPhone 5S. I already own an iPhone 5. Had a lot of iPhones before though. I will even run the portable amp way witht them, I love my C&C BH and I love my ZO. :good:
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you need to realize that KitKat for LG G2 is in Alpha stage...which means it is not 100% more like 70%...ART isnt even working.
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I'm running CM11 Rom not posted on this site (it was but the thread was closed) theres a newer version floating around on that other site that is really good, and ART works just fine. I've been running it for a week with no problems at all.
I can't from iOS as well and the scrolling took me a little while to get used to. I don't notice it much now. I think it's just a difference in scrolling mechanics I think. That being said iOS bored me and in loving my g2
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I'm running CM11 Rom not posted on this site (it was but the thread was closed) theres a newer version floating around on that other site that is really good, and ART works just fine. I've been running it for a week with no problems at all.
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what site is that?
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what site is that?
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http://rootzwiki.com/topic/109073-rom-wip-cm11-for-lg-g2-vs980/
Someone tell me if I'm breaking some rule by linking to this.
Anyway, this is a great rom. Really stable for this early on, been running it for over a week. Switched to the kernel posted in the non carrier G2 dev section a few days ago, running spectacularly considering how new it is. The only really bad problem I'm having is the kernel broke the camera. Not all the time, it works sometimes, but it craps out sometimes. It has the same problems as the other ASOP roms are having (low benchmarks, the stock camera app has only 8mp cam (13mp works in other cams,) sound quality suffers compared to stock, etc) but generally its fast, smooth, stable, and I love it. I can't go back from kitkat now. Give it a shot!
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http://rootzwiki.com/topic/109073-rom-wip-cm11-for-lg-g2-vs980/
Someone tell me if I'm breaking some rule by linking to this.
Anyway, this is a great rom. Really stable for this early on, been running it for over a week. Switched to the kernel posted in the non carrier G2 dev section a few days ago, running spectacularly considering how new it is. The only really bad problem I'm having is the kernel broke the camera. Not all the time, it works sometimes, but it craps out sometimes. It has the same problems as the other ASOP roms are having (low benchmarks, the stock camera app has only 8mp cam (13mp works in other cams,) sound quality suffers compared to stock, etc) but generally its fast, smooth, stable, and I love it. I can't go back from kitkat now. Give it a shot!
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eh verizon....I'm running tmobile
Just give it a little more time. Cm11 is going to run very very well.
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I can't from iOS as well and the scrolling took me a little while to get used to. I don't notice it much now. I think it's just a difference in scrolling mechanics I think. That being said iOS bored me and in loving my g2
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Still having a little trouble typing it seems...
But I came from iOS. I just couldn't stand it anymore, and needed a new change of pace. I feel like I've missed so much by not being on Android for so long.
Thanks the input, hopefully Cyanogenmod 11 picks up quickly for the G2. It runs pretty well Android has come such a long way the thing that drives me crazy the most about this is the way the scrolling works in Android, iOS has absolutely wonderful scrolling, elastic, and consistent. Flicks on Android are choppy in apps at times and not consistent on how it scrolls. SMS and iMessages sent a little quicker and more consistent as well but that's not a big deal. Miss iTunes a bit for music management too idk how to get my Recently Added playlist onto my device which I locally store all of the songs on it.
Also blows my mind but Google images when you scroll through is extremely laggy! Probably the most lag I've seen anywhere on the phone. You would think being their own website and me using Chrome that wouldn't happen haha.
That said Android is a beautiful OS, way more entertaining and options than iOS. Let's see if I can get used to it I have until January 15th I can get a full refund if I want to.
Not long ago, I was cleaning out my garage and checking out some old PCs, trying to clean up the harddrives before recycling.
The damn Windows Me was sure running "fast like hell". ... simple OS does run faster .. even on crappy HW.
(one thought crossed my mind ... how crazily-fast it would run on my current kick-ass HW ?)
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By now I thought android would be much smoother than what I have seen running AOSP 4.3 and 4.4 ROMs, not necessarily lag and the phone stuttering but the frame rate of the phone and scrolling just doesn't match iOS which is really a bummer. Does anyone else feel this way?
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I agree... However, I cannot cope with the limits of iOS, so I keep picking android phones.
I never thought there would come a day when I would say this about a manufacturer skin, but I'm actually enjoying the .290 Sony 4.3 firmware better than CM 10.2 (And I've been a militant CM supporter/user since version 6.1 -- 4 years ago in the Froyo days). Is it just me or do the Sony firmware builds feel noticeably faster? Also the battery life seems to be improved vs CM and the keyboard is sized more appropriately, etc. etc. The small apps are a nifty feature.
Now I never had stability problems with CM 10.2 so it's not about that; CM 10.2 is rock solid, maybe even slightly more stable than the Stock sony firmware but the Sony firmware seems so so much faster! What say you XDA friends? Do you agree? Am I insane?
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I never thought there would come a day when I would say this about a manufacturer skin, but I'm actually enjoying the .290 Sony 4.3 firmware better than CM 10.2 (And I've been a militant CM supporter/user since version 6.1 -- 4 years ago in the Froyo days). Is it just me or do the Sony firmware builds feel noticeably faster? Also the battery life seems to be improved vs CM and the keyboard is sized more appropriately, etc. etc. The small apps are a nifty feature.
Now I never had stability problems with CM 10.2 so it's not about that; CM 10.2 is rock solid, maybe even slightly more stable than the Stock sony firmware but the Sony firmware seems so so much faster! What say you XDA friends? Do you agree? Am I insane?
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No, you're, definitely, not insane and you're not alone on this! Exactly, my feelings. I've never thought that one day I'll start liking one manufacturer's skin/UI better than stock Android. But, it happened. And as a result, I've purchased the Xperia Z Ultra. Couldn't be happier more. It's the best phone I've ever owned.
I have to say/admit that I've faced more stability issues on CM more than Sony's firmwares. And for speed : Yes, it's definitely faster! IMHO, Sony's software engineers are done an excellent job for optimizing the software in the best possible way. There is zero lag, zero glitches etc. Just, very buttery smooth experience.
After the Mr. Kazuo Hirai's becoming the presiden and the CEO of Sony, many things have been changed fundamentally and noticeably. They got their innovation back as it was in 90s and 80s and one more time, started to make some unique products (QX10/QX100, first mirrorless Full-Frame camera except Leica : A7/A7r etc.) like walkman back in the day.
Hopefully, they'll keep this momentum and innovation as long as they can and we will benefit/enjoy of these great products.
Cheers,
Tarkan
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I never thought there would come a day when I would say this about a manufacturer skin, but I'm actually enjoying the .290 Sony 4.3 firmware better than CM 10.2 (And I've been a militant CM supporter/user since version 6.1 -- 4 years ago in the Froyo days). Is it just me or do the Sony firmware builds feel noticeably faster? Also the battery life seems to be improved vs CM and the keyboard is sized more appropriately, etc. etc. The small apps are a nifty feature.
Now I never had stability problems with CM 10.2 so it's not about that; CM 10.2 is rock solid, maybe even slightly more stable than the Stock sony firmware but the Sony firmware seems so so much faster! What say you XDA friends? Do you agree? Am I insane?
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No you're right, sony have done it right!
They've allowed you to keep the fluidity of stock android and have given you customization that dont slow the phone down
I couldnt be happier with my Z Ultra
It used to be that the smartphone SoC was very limited in terms of capability so a clean ROM is the better choice. But with rapid development and less bloat on Sony's UI (+cool design) and slower Android upgrade it is clearly better now. So yeah, not that much reason should i jump to CM ROM again (unlike previous RAZR MAXX of mine) for now Maybe if the Android 5.0 come out in the future i guess but for now no..
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I never thought there would come a day when I would say this about a manufacturer skin, but I'm actually enjoying the .290 Sony 4.3 firmware better than CM 10.2 (And I've been a militant CM supporter/user since version 6.1 -- 4 years ago in the Froyo days). Is it just me or do the Sony firmware builds feel noticeably faster? Also the battery life seems to be improved vs CM and the keyboard is sized more appropriately, etc. etc. The small apps are a nifty feature.
Now I never had stability problems with CM 10.2 so it's not about that; CM 10.2 is rock solid, maybe even slightly more stable than the Stock sony firmware but the Sony firmware seems so so much faster! What say you XDA friends? Do you agree? Am I insane?
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I Concur! I've had this device for about three months, & I really enjoy it also! I purchased it with the Sony UI in mind and sure enough it did not disappoint. I wasn't upset to see the Google edition released so soon after I bought this one. This is really the longest I've ever went without root also, as most prior phones did not make the 30 day mark.
I honestly would be happy with root access on the stock Sony Rom, however with all the confusion of root methods / model numbers / TA partitions / possibility of losing LTE, I'm just really trying to be patient. I kept in mind that buying such a large (under the radar phone) my slow my ability to tinker with it, but it's beginning to a bit of a hassle without root.
I recently accepted the 4.3 update, & the speed and mellow performance was noticed immediately. I was trying to stay on 4.2 as I had read different threads saying it was able to be rooted as oppose to 4.3 .290 but as of recently that seems to have changed now... This whole phone's process seems extremely confusing, and I'm tired of reading different contradicting threads .....and it's never a good idea to start playing with your phone when your frustrated & uninformed so I guess I'll just hang out a bit longer until things seem clearer....
I am with you guys.
Although on Note 2 I did not go with any AOSP except from the usual testing, but always came back to stock because of Spen features.
With the Ultra, this stock rom is so light, smooth and plus I keep the phone features plus it has been designed better to use the larger screen...I am VERY impressed with the Sony Rom so I dont see myself flashing anything but Sony based Roms.
I enjoy my phone now more than just using it to flash new stuff trying to get it to be better
Ah after I try a lot of custom ROM
monxDIFIED is my daily ROM
It is Sony base because I prefer stock app
FM Radio
Stock Camera
If I can install two stock app in CM base ROM like Carbon ROM
I may think using CM base ROM as my daily drive
That's common and you are not alone. I too am using the Stock 4.3 without any intention of flashing other ROMs (I do really love flashing as I had nearly flashed every Android phone I have ever owned)
I'm back on stock after a day on GPe. I love AOSP and the GPe ROM is amazing, but I tend to always end up back on stock again. Not sure what it is, but it's solid as a rock, and I know exactly how it works and what it does. No surprises. I feel safe using it, so I guess that's why? Xposed has also changed the way I use ROMs. No longer do I have to flash ROMs if I want a weird feature, I just install a module. I feel like I don't have to flash anything these days, except for when I want a different environment/UI.
In not that tired of Sony's UI quite yet (but I'm slowly getting there), but I'll probably migrate to the GPe full time down the road. BUT, official 4.4 is on its way, so it'll be really exciting to see how it'll be.
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I'm back on stock after a day on GPe. I love AOSP and the GPe ROM is amazing, but I tend to always end up back on stock again. Not sure what it is, but it's solid as a rock, and I know exactly how it works and what it does. No surprises. I feel safe using it, so I guess that's why? Xposed has also changed the way I use ROMs. No longer do I have to flash ROMs if I want a weird feature, I just install a module. I feel like I don't have to flash anything these days, except for when I want a different environment/UI.
In not that tired of Sony's UI quite yet (but I'm slowly getting there), but I'll probably migrate to the GPe full time down the road. BUT, official 4.4 is on its way, so it'll be really exciting to see how it'll be.
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Im back running stock UI as well (own rom with Dogg tweaks), and am more or less happy with it.
Cant wait for 4.4 stock (not here today yet)
I had a Nexus 7 and I ran AOKP, I had an Nexus 4 and I ran AOKP, I had a Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and I ran CyanogenMod. Today I switched to Sony Xperia Z Ultra and I don't want to switch to AOSP. It never happened before, but I feel like Stock ROM is good
my galaxy tab is always on another rom, after that i had asus padfone, which had no development at all. and z ultra makes me not want to change to another rom at all. loving the stock, dunno why. I'm still on 4.2 and for me it's pretty smooth and fluid already i dont even need to upgrade.
Recently get an OTA for 4.3, but there's no way to root it in a simple way. tempting to root using jackie's way or flashing monx but im still too lazy to do it, still enjoyin my current 4.2 haha
I think sony did a good job here
I'm with you too dude. For me it's close enough to stock not to piss me off, their skin is simple and black base (better for battery), and I like some of the bloatware too.
I have deleted a lot, but that's another thing I like, I was able to delete or freeze most of what I didn't want without needing root. On touchwizz practically nothing could be deleted without root.
For me, Sony have worked it really well, bugs aside, and 290 is perfect IMHO except bluetooth.
I love cm, don't get me wrong, I just don't need it as much with Sony as I did with Samsung.
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Same here, actually i'm still on 4.2.2. Still amazed with stock rom, looks good and stays smooth and fast. I can endless opening apps, not any hick up. OOM works unnoticed, and don't need to restart device. On my old LG 3d i changed roms and kernels continously. My son his tab2 flashed a hour after purchase. My Acer A700 running CM10.1 unfortunately my daughter jumped on screen i need to order new screen/digitizer.
But i'm surpised with myself that i'm still on stock and don't want to flash. Only reason for me to flash would be working miracast with my LG 55LM750S.
I'm back on the GPe ROM I was bored yesterday, so the only thing to do when i'm bored is to install or flash something. I'm still amazed how everything is running so smooth and i have still to find a bug. I haven't found a single one. I find it funny that we went from AOSP ROMs that had their fair share of problems, to a AOSP ROM that is perfect like THAT.
I guess i'll keep using GPe for now, but i find some small things to be a little annoying. The volume is rather strange. It can be really quiet on one level, and be really loud on the next one, which makes it very annoying since i have to try to find the sweet spot. The stock ROM is much better at this. The quick toggles are also quite bad. Why do i have to press and HOLD to activate/deactivate a feature? Why can't i just tap a toggle like on CM? One tap on AOSP will open the settings for that feature, and someone at Google should be shot in the face. Well, that's about it really
I agree, been on and off Cm9-10 for years with some stints on Samsung's JB, but these ROMs rock. Only complaint is WIFI is a bit flakey. I don't even have a reason to root.
I have both a C6833 and Tablet Z.
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With my ex Galaxy S3 I went from stock to CM in like 4/6 months, and from there I just wanted to change phone like every day.
I guess I just want this to be my phone for a long time, therefore I'll wait to transform it to see if the stock rom satisfies me long enough to get to the official 4.4.2 update.
Which, I bet will be the last "quick" update.
After that I'm sure we will see 4.5, but at a super slow pace.
Anyway, I need time to install and backup everything to begin trying the GPe, and with a 6yo daughter and a 40days son I really don't have much left... XD
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With my ex Galaxy S3 I went from stock to CM in like 4/6 months, and from there I just wanted to change phone like every day.
I guess I just want this to be my phone for a long time, therefore I'll wait to transform it to see if the stock rom satisfies me long enough to get to the official 4.4.2 update.
Which, I bet will be the last "quick" update.
After that I'm sure we will see 4.5, but at a super slow pace.
Anyway, I need time to install and backup everything to begin trying the GPe, and with a 6yo daughter and a 40days son I really don't have much left... XD
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Congrats! I guess that's why we haven't really seen you around here that much lately, but you have a brand new boy in your house now so that's expected
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Congrats! I guess that's why we haven't really seen you around here that much lately, but you have a brand new boy in your house now so that's expected
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Thanks! I try to keep up with everything but now even Tapatalk is against me (meaning the new interface is fugly as hell).
Anyway, I'm curious, does the GPe support multiple users like on the Nexus 7? It is a fantastic feature as it keeps my daughter within the fence of her few apps...
That may be a feature I'd be interested in...
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Thanks! I try to keep up with everything but now even Tapatalk is against me (meaning the new interface is fugly as hell).
Anyway, I'm curious, does the GPe support multiple users like on the Nexus 7? It is a fantastic feature as it keeps my daughter within the fence of her few apps...
That may be a feature I'd be interested in...
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Hmm, i have no idea. I think it "pops up" when you activate tablet mode. I know that CM supports it though, but since GPe build is strictly made for the ZU, Sony may have removed the feature (i can't prove it though).
Hi there, our tablet is becoming old. Currently I had installed the Nameless ROM and I love it, but the tablet is still a little laggy and more than a little when you open a few apps... Do you think that the ROMs based on Honeycomb could run smoother in our devices?
I tried to set up an 1GB swap partition but really don't feel any difference...
So, I think it could be a good idea to post if you wise guys know any tweaks or configurations to make our tablets more efficient devices
Thanks in advance
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Hi there, our tablet is becoming old. Currently I had installed the Nameless ROM and I love it, but the tablet is still a little laggy and more than a little when you open a few apps... Do you think that the ROMs based on Honeycomb could run smoother in our devices?
I tried to set up an 1GB swap partition but really don't feel any difference...
So, I think it could be a good idea to post if you wise guys know any tweaks or configurations to make our tablets more efficient devices
Thanks in advance
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Hello !
In january 2014 I loved the port made by SGT7, JB 4.3.1/Cyano10.2, very smooth, no laggy but JB...:cyclops:
In july 2014 I decided to try Nameless, the only that release every night an updated rom, and keep alive everyday tab 10.1 with KK444... but in my own, too laggy also overclocked and youtube problems...
In september 2014 I tried OMNI Homemade by AAccount and... damn! I really loved it, smooth, human battery drain, no youtube problems, for now I keep the 20/09 3G release with installed stock browser.apk from Nameless... :laugh:
Honeycomb rom don't run smooter and too outdated...
Thank you frank! I'll try the omni homemade one and I'll tell you [emoji6]
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Thank you frank! I'll try the omni homemade one and I'll tell you [emoji6]
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How did it go? I had the same experience with Nameless. Nice ROM, but laggy. I'm sure the older hardware is the issue.
Have you found any tweaks to help?
It was really nice and fast. But I'd sold it and change it for an iPad Air 2 [emoji5]️
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It was really nice and fast. But I'd sold it and change it for an iPad Air 2 [emoji5]️
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My condolences! I had an iPod and they get outdated so quick and the apps no longer work because they don't support older OSes. That's the great thing about XDA. The apps last longer and you can usually root your device and upgrade it if need be to keep up more than with an iOS device.
Thanks for the update!
iPad Air 2 was announced two weeks ago. It will far outlast the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
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iPad Air 2 was announced two weeks ago. It will far outlast the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
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I very seriously doubt that.
yuck. Not having luck.
Just went with CM11 all seems good except msps 9.1.2. Using maps 8.1.2 with no issue though.
I had the nameless rom installed as well. Yesterday i installed lollipop and it actually seems to be running a little quicker!
I am looking to buy a tablet and I found a 32gb version of the Tablet Z for $100. Is this tablet still worth buying?
I know it has better specs than some of the newer cheaper tablets but just want to see what people's experiences are. Thanks
I have one and use it all the time. For $100, I don't think you could go wrong. I use mine for studying, and watching YouTube mostly and will occasionally use chrome remote desktop to log in to my laptop at home. Have never had any issues with it that a reboot didn't clear up and I only reboot once ever few months. Hope this helps.
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I have one and use it all the time. For $100, I don't think you could go wrong. I use mine for studying, and watching YouTube mostly and will occasionally use chrome remote desktop to log in to my laptop at home. Have never had any issues with it that a reboot didn't clear up and I only reboot once ever few months. Hope this helps.
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cool. thanks. I went ahead and bought it.. Nice tablet but now just trying to figure out how to flash the TWRP recovery to fota and boot to it.
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cool. thanks. I went ahead and bought it.. Nice tablet but now just trying to figure out how to flash the TWRP recovery to fota and boot to it.
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Why not just stick with stock? I've tried many custom ROMs during my "flashaholic" days - but have always ended up back at stock because :
most of the custom ROMs have issues
some apps won't work if your tablet is rooted
Still enjoying my Tablet Z after 4 years of ownership :good:
I can't justify buying something newer.
Why root?
I have to agree with Greta, I see no reason to root. Everything just works as is with no problems. From the research I did about rooting this particular device, there just wasn't enough of a gain by doing so. Hope you enjoy it.
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I have to agree with Greta, I see no reason to root. Everything just works as is with no problems. From the research I did about rooting this particular device, there just wasn't enough of a gain by doing so. Hope you enjoy it.[/QUOTE
Really just want to put nougat on there are be able to overclock. This is a nice tablet but it does have some lag on some games and processes.
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Nougat is really nice on this tablet. I recommend the LineageOS rom from this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-tablet-z/general/rom-cyanogenmod-14-t3496758
I have no issues and with it and it's fast, I also get insane battery life with standby being especially is impressive.
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Nougat is really nice on this tablet. I recommend the LineageOS rom from this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-tablet-z/general/rom-cyanogenmod-14-t3496758
I have no issues and with it and it's fast, I also get insane battery life with standby being especially is impressive.
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Yep!
All firmwares, based on 7.1.x Nougar, are very smooth and responsive. So highly recommended.
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Huckleberry Friend said:
I have to agree with Greta, I see no reason to root. Everything just works as is with no problems. From the research I did about rooting this particular device, there just wasn't enough of a gain by doing so. Hope you enjoy it.[/QUOTE
Really just want to put nougat on there are be able to overclock. This is a nice tablet but it does have some lag on some games and processes.
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Nougat is really great on this tablet. I really appreciate the multi window feature. It's fully functional.
I agree with you, underclocking / overclocking feature would probably help in some case.
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Broke mine...?
schastang said:
jhcomputerguy said:
Nougat is really great on this tablet. I really appreciate the multi window feature. It's fully functional.
I agree with you, underclocking / overclocking feature would probably help in some case.
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Glad to hear it is working out well for you. I dropped mine anout a month ago and it is toast. I took it apart and tried selling stuff like the camera and ports online but nobody wanted them. I hate seeing things go to waste and was practically giving them away. Did you get a dock with yours? I have one of those, too. May try to ebay it along with the spare parts and the smart cover.
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I'm also thinking of buying an used SGP311 and running the latest LineageOS on it. Does anyone with SGP311 have problems playing Clash Royale?
I have a Samsung SM-T320 running Kitkat 4.4.2 with Clash Royale and no problems. If I try SlimKat 4.4.4, LineageOS 13/14, CM 11/12, etc they ALL crash/reboot with Clash Royale. Only stock works with Clash Royale on the SM-T320.
The SGP311 uses Adreno 320 GPU and the SM-320 uses the Adreno 330 GPU. I'm just worried that whatever problem in Slimrom, LineageOS, CM, etc that causes Clash Royale to crash/reboot tablet might be related to the Adreno GPU drivers/code.
If you're into streaming services there is a thing that you should know: The Xperia Tablet Z has Google Widevine L3 DRM, that means that Netflix will NOT play HD movies, even with the most expensive subscription. Netflix needs Widevine L1, which you dont get with this device, even with an up-to-date OS installed. I dont know how this is with Amazon Prime.
EDIT: The SoC of this tablet does not suppert 60fps video streaming. This means that YouTube videos with 60 fps have a lot of stuttering. 60fps Twitch streams dont play the video at all, you can only hear the audio.
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If you're into streaming services there is a thing that you should know: The Xperia Tablet Z has Google Widevine L3 DRM, that means that Netflix will NOT play HD movies, even with the most expensive subscription. Netflix needs Widevine L1, which you dont get with this device, even with an up-to-date OS installed. I dont know how this is with Amazon Prime.
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As far as i remember Google Widevine DRM was ported to custom firmwares based on android 7.1.2 and probably 8.1. You'd better check them.
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As far as i remember Google Widevine DRM was ported to custom firmwares based on android 7.1.2 and probably 8.1. You'd better check them.
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I have Resurrection Remix 6.0 with Android 8.1 installed. No chance.
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I have Resurrection Remix 6.0 with Android 8.1 installed. No chance.
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Yep, you're right. Widevine L1 support is not available, and i think it will never be.