Someone sent me a zenwatch 2 to have. So I will start building on it. Once I have it in my hands.
Lol. Thanks. Some one must be desperate
Just message me if you need help testing
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Someone sent me a zenwatch 2 to have. So I will start building on it. Once I have it in my hands.
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Fantastic!
Id love to help out where possible!
Update.. Finally received the watch last night. Updated it to the latest Android wear. LCB51 build. Going to pull the system.img this weekend and inject su. For a easy root for guys.
Nice
Do you already know if we can do CPU tuning?
Only one core seems to be running so far, are there hotplug governors in the kernel?
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Do you already know if we can do CPU tuning?
Only one core seems to be running so far, are there hotplug governors in the kernel?
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Bro its a quad-core 1.2. See I don't get anyone now a days. They think they have to have the most powerful device in the world. It's not like your going to be jamming away with games on your watch. Now that I said my 2 cents. Let's get real.
Your watch runs like your phone. Single core runs till the watch ask for more speed. So yes you can get it to run all 3 cores. But your battery will crap the bed.
No, there is a function in the hotplug for boosting the CPU when a device wakes up.
This was my intention, use only one core at max, but boost when wake up, then only one core again.
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So I have the SetCPU running. I also have CPU Benchmark. It gives me two numbers each time I run the test one at 1100 and one at 1000. Is that because one core is set higher than the other? If so, is there a way to set both cores running at 1100? Thanks.
Don't post questions in development, but yea set CPU only overclockes core 0 only, not both core 0 and core 1.
Roger that. I'll keep that in mind for future reference. Is there a way to overclock both?
I thought I read that someone over in 3d forums worked up a special kernel to fully utilize both cores. This was on a snapdragon of course.
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Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. Oh well. I'm happy with what we got. It made my phone more snappy, so I'm super stoked.
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I thought I read that someone over in 3d forums worked up a special kernel to fully utilize both cores. This was on a snapdragon of course.
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Kinda, freeza made a kernel that supposed to do that, but its sort of unstable and lags on some phones, I tried it and didn't like it. He did recently update it so it maybe fixed. SetCPU is coded for one core, some people posted logcats and confirmed it. Far as I know, emails were sent to the dev so that hes aware of it. So until there's an update in the app its going to stay that way weather a kernel allows it or not.
Thanks, That's all the info I needed. Appreciate it.
That dev's really good. Hopefully he will update it soon. Been using setcpu since the g1 and mytouch days.
So if Setcpu only controls one core, is it worth using on the photon?
So I have been looking at some of the other programs they have for overclocking. And so far none of them seem to support overclocking a dual core. Any ideas on if there is going to be an update released to support this? Or are we gonna have to just wait for another program? Thanks in advance.
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So I have been looking at some of the other programs they have for overclocking. And so far none of them seem to support overclocking a dual core. Any ideas on if there is going to be an update released to support this? Or are we gonna have to just wait for another program? Thanks in advance.
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I think you need a custom kernel for that, which are not available for the Photon yet.
We have the custom kernal for the overclock thanks to Shabby. But I'm just curious if we have a program that will overclock both cores? Or perhaps the kernal is only for single core?
I haven't been able to find any overclock apps for dual core yet.
Okay. And one other question. I think I know the answer, but I'll ask. With the kernal release for overclock. That will limit the speed which you can clock it to correct? Meaning the max speed.
You mean underclock? Like only allow the CPU to run at 512 MHz for example? We can already do that with root.
Overclock is raising the Max speed of the CPU, the stock kernel only allows 1 ghz, but a custom kernel can allow higher speeds.
Dual core phones just hit the market, there will be tons of apps supporting that sooner than you might think. And I bet shabby will get us a lot higher than 1.1 - I bet we could get closer to 1.6 with this thing. i would hope so anyways!
I will take the first dive at trying it! lol
-DJ
SetCPU supports the tegra2 for under clocking, over clocking, and under volting. I currently run an Atrix over clocked to 1.3GHz and under vloted.
Also, your kernel must support it.
That's what I was trying to ask. Does our kernal only support the 1.1 ghz? I'm happy with it, just curious. And that's what I'm trying to find out. Also, how does I undervolt my CPU?
Im willing to bet when more custom kernels roll out this thing will be able to overclock each core to abt 1.4 or 1.5ghz! I wouldn't do it though....im an undervolt kind of guy myself.
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Im willing to bet when more custom kernels roll out this thing will be able to overclock each core to abt 1.4 or 1.5ghz! I wouldn't do it though....im an undervolt kind of guy myself.
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I get you there bud, most people are. But just like my PC I tend to get every last ounce of power out of it. I get my i7 in the mail here on Thursday. Can't fricken wait. $3k of computer coming from the egg. Going to be sweet.
-DJ
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I get you there bud, most people are. But just like my PC I tend to get every last ounce of power out of it. I get my i7 in the mail here on Thursday. Can't fricken wait. $3k of computer coming from the egg. Going to be sweet.
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Not bad. My lappy is an i5 mackbook pro and i built a pretty sweet desktop if i need the power.
So there is something that I'm trying to figure out.
I am currently running Virus' Infected Eternity 1.5 r31 and using RCMIX 3D v11 kernel. Regardless whether it is overclocked (which I usually run 1.51 ghz) or standard and regardless of whether running a govenor like lagfree or a SetCPU one like performance, when I open the app SystemPanel Monitor it shows only one core running. According to Freeza's thread, his kernel has "dual cores active" and it shows SystemPanel Monitor with two cores running. I switched to Freeza's kernel with Eternity ROM and and checked again and it only shows one core running.
So what I'm trying to figure out is, is this ROM related or am I really only running one core and the other is not used, or otherwise how do I know if both cores are running?
My phone with Eternity ROM is smooth and runs games and videos well with no choppiness so I think it is ok. I just want to know how we can know that both cores are running.
I would also like an answer to this question..
Its because of SetCPU if you remove it and install say CPU Master your second core will be activated.
I thought the latest SetCPU was setup for dual cores?
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I thought the latest SetCPU was setup for dual cores?
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Is it working?
Yes it its working
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Download stability test...run the first, classic test...hit the home button..not the back button...open your system app and it will show you that both cores work, when needed, on the rom you think is only using one core.
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Yes it its working
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What version of SetCPU are you using? I use system panel it will show you both core running at the same time.
SetCPU 2.2.4 donate version
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Download stability test...run the first, classic test...hit the home button..not the back button...open your system app and it will show you that both cores work, when needed, on the rom you think is only using one core.
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This Worked!! Thanks cruecu. Seems as though if the demand is not there the second core is idle for these particular govenors.
So this begs the questions.....Which is better (for speed and/or battery life), running mostly one core at full speed and then the second when only necessary, or running both simultaneously at half speed? I've seen some discussion on this but it's not real clear.
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Yes that version breaks full time dual core.
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This Worked!! Thanks cruecu. Seems as though if the demand is not there the second core is idle for these particular govenors.
So this begs the questions.....Which is better (for speed and/or battery life), running mostly one core at full speed and then the second when only necessary, or running both simultaneously at half speed? I've seen some discussion on this but it's not real clear.
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I'm not sure one has been proven more effective. I personally don't want both cores running all the time...I don't notice a speed increase since clock speed is still the same. Not sure it matters either way, but I will only run a rom that uses second core only when needed
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I'm not sure one has been proven more effective. I personally don't want both cores running all the time...I don't notice a speed increase since clock speed is still the same. Not sure it matters either way, but I will only run a rom that uses second core only when needed
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For the most part I agree with this statement. The reality is the device feels faster and will benchmark better. The better benchmarking is what sold a lot of people. The question still remains is if the device finishes processing the data in half the time is it using more battery? I personally have not noticed a drain on the battery and it may even be a little better. If you let the device decide when to use the second core it may never use it.
Also on some ROMs like my Fresh ROM you can just delete the dual core script in the init.d folder and it will return to single core mode.
Ok, I have side questions that pertains to this topic.
If we can enable the second core in init.d when the phone boots, AND it actually does useful work then HTC would have had to have put effort into supporting that in their kernel because ASOP Gingerbread does not naively support dual core, right? So that makes me wonder why HTC shipped the 3D with dual core inactive! Unless I'm flat out wrong somewhere HTC must have had a reason, and the only things I can think of are race conditions and battery life.
Full dual cores oc to 1.8 keep my phone nice and warm in the winter
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Ok, I have side questions that pertains to this topic.
If we can enable the second core in init.d when the phone boots, AND it actually does useful work then HTC would have had to have put effort into supporting that in their kernel because ASOP Gingerbread does not naively support dual core, right? So that makes me wonder why HTC shipped the 3D with dual core inactive! Unless I'm flat out wrong somewhere HTC must have had a reason, and the only things I can think of are race conditions and battery life.
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Our CPU was not designed to run this way (asynchronous CPU). That is why it is not active all the time. Now Nvidia Tegra processors (synchronous CPU) are designed to run dual core all the time. That also seem to produce better benchmarks.
HTC kernel is designed to run the way the processor was designed. HTC would not override the CPU specs like we would just to make the benchmark better. The theory is that asynchronous CPU would have better battery life. Reality is most XDA members only care about benchmarks so they can show their friends.
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Our CPU was not designed to run this way (asynchronous CPU). That is why it is not active all the time. Now Nvidia Tegra processors (synchronous CPU) are designed to run dual core all the time. That also seem to produce better benchmarks.
HTC kernel is designed to run the way the processor was designed. HTC would not override the CPU specs like we would just to make the benchmark better. The theory is that asynchronous CPU would have better battery life. Reality is most XDA members only care about benchmarks so they can show their friends.
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While I agree with you in principle, I do have both cores active at all times. I have not noticed any difference in battery life. Yet I have noticed a difference of quite a bit less lag while loading applications and flipping through screens than when CPU1 is idle.
Does it really matter in the long run daily use? Not really. It's a fun tweak and I learned something new by utilizing it.
I did not get a truly noticeable difference in benchmark though.
Is there a Kernel that Supports Dual Core for the 2.3.5 Roms (HydroBliss_3.5)?
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Is there a Kernel that Supports Dual Core for the 2.3.5 Roms (HydroBliss_3.5)?
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Not sure which, but I can tell you that I am running this 3.5 rom and both cores show active.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373823
Ok so im rooted and overclocked and was using setcpu then decided i wanna try something different so i tried system tuner! When i checked the cpu it said that one of the processors are off line! Then i pressed the info button and sure enough it says only reading one! So i went through the settings and found force both cores online!
Since then i have no lag and virtually no checkerboarding on the web! Anyway i was just wondering if im the only one who noticed this and maybe it could help those who say that they are still getting lag on they're roms using dag's kernel!
Also i hope devs will notice this thread since i can't post there yet and take advantage of this how ever they can!
Now don't quote me on this but most likely the second core only turns on for processor intensive activities such as high graphics games or multiple programs running at once. I do find it hard to believe that it would be totally disabled. Most likely this is done to conserve battery.
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Now don't quote me on this but most likely the second core only turns on for processor intensive activities such as high graphics games or multiple programs running at once. I do find it hard to believe that it would be totally disabled. Most likely this is done to conserve battery.
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Nope i checked that i had 10 apps open two were games (dead space and gta III) One cpu online even on performance! I see 50 views i hope others chime in and let us know what you are thinking
Btw they Did this i heard to the galaxy nexus with the tiomap 1.2 so we'll see what others find
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Nope i checked that i had 10 apps open two were games (dead space and gta III) One cpu online even on performance! I see 50 views i hope others chime in and let us know what you are thinking
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Okay if this really is the case I could also see at&t disabling the second core totally to save battery because of lte but i guess it will take a dev that has more experience with how qualcomm's multicore cpus work in android. report back with differences in battery life like how much faster does it drain now that both cores are forced on.
if you want both cores on click on boot settings and enable force all cpus online. that heats up your phone and eats more battery though+I do not see any benefits doing that.
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Okay if this really is the case I could also see at&t disabling the second core totally to save battery because of lte but i guess it will take a dev that has more experience with how qualcomm's multicore cpus work in android. report back with differences in battery life like how much faster does it drain now that both cores are forced on.
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I've had it like this for 4 days on average i will take of the charger at 8am now is 8:30pm and i have 27% but i use my navigation for my Job! By 10:30 or so ill have 15% and recharge!
Settings
1836 max
192 min
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Smartassv2
Both cores pushing
Screen off
192 max
In call
384 max
Tomorrow ill post some pics of battery life usage!
And my phone doesn't get any hotter than normal not even while using my navi! Mostly it just gives no lag and better rendering in the browser/maps/etc!!
I was under the impression that Gingerbread didn't fully utilize multiple cores. Need HC or ICS...
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I was under the impression that Gingerbread didn't fully utilize multiple cores. Need HC or ICS...
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Same, but having a better processor helps. Like exynos. I bet once we update to ics if it ever happens, the differences will be only minor between processors, as it runs so nice.
Got system tuner pro, and it shows speed bars on both cpus running? I didn't change a thing?
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Got system tuner pro, and it shows speed bars on both cpus running? I didn't change a thing?
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Really? I switched Roms twice today and had to reset that each time! Cpu.0 online Cpu.1 offline! Like i said am i the only one? Lets hear from more people and let us know of any lag or rendering changes after turning on both cpu's! Battery too, i'll post mine tomorrow.
I thought I'd play and I have CPU0 running and CPU1 running.
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Btw they Did this i heard to the galaxy nexus with the tiomap 1.2 so we'll see what others find
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Not entirely true.. the Galaxy Nexus has a kernel governor that turns one core off when the SCREEN IS OFF, but not when the phone is being used. Multiple kernel creators have since implemented this into their kernels. It is called "hot plugging" and it just turns CPU 1 offline when the screen is off and turns it back on when the screen is on
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Just checked mine, rooted and OC with DaG's 0.1 version (first version). When I looked, it said the second CPU was offline. Changed it to online, we'll see how that impacts battery life.
How much of an advantage is smartassv2 anyway?
I just tried this with system tuner and both cpus were working but wone was of and on and zero was always on.
I am running stock rooted. If you just sit yhere and watch it you will see tje sevond core fires and shuts down alot.
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Really? I switched Roms twice today and had to reset that each time! Cpu.0 online Cpu.1 offline! Like i said am i the only one? Lets hear from more people and let us know of any lag or rendering changes after turning on both cpu's! Battery too, i'll post mine tomorrow.
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Same for me (CPU 0 on, CPU1 off, most times) and I'll say I have noticed no real changes in functionality (speed, rendering, etc) or battery life...
I guess jury is still out or is this a YMMV kind of thing?
I installed system runner and watched the cpus. One was on and the other kicked in periodically
Mine said it was offline as well. Forced it on and am not noticing any difference in speed or temp.
Ill leave it like this to test it further.
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Do you have to be rooted to force both cores on?
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Do you have to be rooted to force both cores on?
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As far as I know yes you must have super user permission to alter such system activities
I don't know why everyone is in such a rush to force the second core online, it turns on and off when it needs to.
Hello everyone!
Right, I bought my htc two days ago from o2 on PAYG off course, I did my own research about the phone and I was happy with the results soo, I bought it.
When I play a game like GTA 3 with a stock settings I get some sort of lag for some reasons, although I thought, because it had the Tegra 3 chip it should run any game without any problem.
The phone is 100% stock!
here is some info in my phone that might help;
Baseband: 3.1204.168.32
Build number: 1.17.206.1
Does anyone have similar problem with the HOX+?
Also, my signal drops sometimes and it does not regain for some reason unless I go to flight mode, ON then off, back to normal. I am with o2/giffgaff, any ideas?
Thanks for your help!:laugh:
AW: [Q] My htc one x+ is laggy while playing a game and signal drops?
There are some major discussions going on around the web regarding gaming performance of this device. Furthermore there are some gaming reviews foot it on you've and so on. They are easy to find if you really look. Just do another search.
But for now here s why:
Tegra 3 is a quite performant soc for a mobile device. But it does have some issues.
First is the bad optimization by game developers. Mostly it's Gameloft. They then to ignore the fact that they should optize their games for different platforms to get a enjoyable gaming experiance. Had been worse. ATM most games are playable.
Next problem is that the graphics processors clock speed is firmly linked to the clock the CPU is running. This means when games do demands little CPU performance GPU will also clock down leading to lags. This has been improved with custom kernel, game updates due to tegra optimizations and custom kernels and ROMs.
Last but not least is that the CPU tends to be running in single core. All in all this service does have a lot of power... Mostly a lot of still unused power but I'm confident devs will go on and improve the situation even more than they already have.
For GTA just lower the graphic settings a bit or try rennovate gaming fix.
For now the only games that are not running for me as they should are GTA iii with some minor lagging, nova 3 playable since latest updates but not enjoyable. And last but not least real racing 3 with most of the time 35+ fps but many drops below 20.
For signal drops: maybe it's bad reception in your area?
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Thanks for the answer, I did look around before asking this question but, all I was getting was answers that make no sense!
Soo, as far as I understood is the game developers plus the kernel but, that sounds like the device was not ready for the market yet htc released it!
One more question! do you think the phone is worth keeping?
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Thanks for the answer, I did look around before asking this question but, all I was getting was answers that make no sense!
Soo, as far as I understood is the game developers plus the kernel but, that sounds like the device was not ready for the market yet htc released it!
One more question! do you think the phone is worth keeping?
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no - send it to me
but you would be surprised what's possible if you use a different rom.
of course non-sense
the phone is good just HTC tends to cripple every device they release
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no - send it to me
but you would be surprised what's possible if you use a different rom.
of course non-sense
the phone is good just HTC tends to cripple every device they release
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yeah I know but I dont want to risk anything yet! :crying:
all the android phones I had were a HTC like the desire, desire z, sensation xe and for now the one x +, I have rooted all of them without a problem but, this phone is still under warranty I would rather wait for an update then root the phone:silly:
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Thanks for the answer, I did look around before asking this question but, all I was getting was answers that make no sense!
Soo, as far as I understood is the game developers plus the kernel but, that sounds like the device was not ready for the market yet htc released it!
One more question! do you think the phone is worth keeping?
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I don't think you understood what he said. The main point was, the GPU base clock runs at a set frequency directly related to the current clock speed of the CPU. So games like GTA that require little resources from the CPU, do not utilize the GPU to it's fullest. There are some custom kernels that allow the GPU to run at it's max speed regardless of CPU useage.
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I don't think you understood what he said. The main point was, the GPU base clock runs at a set frequency directly related to the current clock speed of the CPU. So games like GTA that require little resources from the CPU, do not utilize the GPU to it's fullest. There are some custom kernels that allow the GPU to run at it's max speed regardless of CPU useage.
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Well, I did and thats why I rooted my phone to Viperx+. I am uing the Viber elitekernel but I am having a problem in setting up the max cpu frequency to 1700, its always stuck on 1150 for some reasons and yeah I am using venom tweaks, any idea?
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Well, I did and thats why I rooted my phone to Viperx+. I am uing the Viber elitekernel but I am having a problem in setting up the max cpu frequency to 1700, its always stuck on 1150 for some reasons and yeah I am using venom tweaks, any idea?
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The max Clock Speed is 1600mhz when using all 4 cores, you can only get to 1700mhz when running on a single core. Do you have power saver enabled? That limits CPU frequency.
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The max Clock Speed is 1600mhz when using all 4 cores, you can only get to 1700mhz when running on a single core. Do you have power saver enabled? That limits CPU frequency.
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I found out that the game was not fully optimized for the tigra 3 chip, soo I rooted the phone and used Viperx+ 1.06 rom so I can have more control then the stock rom. Now i can do alot of things like set min/max cpu clocks speeds and soo much more, buttery life is much better now (thanks to SetCPU!!:victory but yeah I knew in the end (after going throw alot of reviews) that phone will use 1.7GHz with the 5th core only!
Is there a way I can run 4 cores at 1.6GHz then running 1 core at 1.7GHz or, if I just set max cpu to 1.6GHz, then I will run the 4 cores?
I am using elitekernel for venom team.
No, I dont use power saver anymore!:laugh: