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Hi Prime users,
I'm a litte surprised there are no threads about this here.
I'm pleased with the general audio quality - feels a little like force feedback in games
BUT
I am totally irritated by the fact that the audio only comes from the right edge of the Prime. This is really driving my ears crazy.
What about you? Use headphones? External speakers? Got used to it?
I'd just like to know how you think on this one.
Regards,
pintness
It bothers me as well.
I didn't care really.. I agree that it would be better to have speakers like the TF101 (1 on each side).
I love the sound quality, but yeah it is uncomfortable unless you watch videos in portrait mode.
it bothers me a little bit. Mainly when I'm playing back something with sound and I can barely hear it due it's single speaker blowing out from the back.
From a design standpoint, ASUS should have at least included the left speaker on the left-bottom of the Keyboard Dock. It would have made more sense, making the tablet whole with it's keyboard dock accessory than not including no left channel audio at all. But oh well.
in fact it is a stereo speaker
redvirus said:
in fact it is a stereo speaker
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Indeed it is, but without proper stereo separation it is a little bizarre.
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Indeed it is, but without proper stereo separation it is a little bizarre.
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But... why would Asus do that? I mean, if they put in stereo speakers, why not put them in correct place? This looks like a really poor design decision to me.
If only they would put more effort into function than design...
I have an Acer Iconia A500, which has stereo speaker on the back, too.
General problem with those is that treble sounds aren't reflected well and you can't hear them at all, except when you hold the tablet in that ONE special position and form a cone with your hands.
At first it really bothered me (coming from the TF101) but now I can manage...
The quality IS a whole lot better compared to TF101 though, making up for it. Still really no idea what they were thinking here though.
I agree...weird but it is excellent quality.
I am more bothered by the fact that the speaker faces away from the user instead of towards the user. This means that most of the volume the tablet can put out is wasted unless you have some kind of sound reflector behind the tablet.
I know this is common among thin touchscreen devices, but to me it never stops being a source of minor annoyance.
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Indeed it is, but without proper stereo separation it is a little bizarre.
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therefore it is NOT stereo but mono.
Come on, that's audio 101. If it's outputing both left and right channel from one single speaker it's NOT Stereo.
the_game_master said:
therefore it is NOT stereo but mono.
Come on, that's audio 101. If it's outputing both left and right channel from one single speaker it's NOT Stereo.
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There are two speakers ... they just are side-by-side under that single perforation.
Lame I know, but ....
What I would have liked is to have the dock have speakers integrated (facing "up") with some separation.
That way, the tab alone could service headphones, but when docked and sitting open, it would have a better stereo experience without headphones.
definitely found it pretty weird for awhile but used to it now.
If I'm on the road, I use my headphones to block out sound and avoid annoying others.
If I'm at home, I'll plug it into my stereo speakers. If I ever use the built-in speaker, it's probably for unimportant stuff that doesn't really require good sound quality.
Never a problem
Posted this elsewhere, but I haven't seen anyone mentioning it, so perhaps it bears repeating:
NeoteriX said:
This is sort of a tangent, but if you're just holding the Prime and viewing/listening to something yourself, the way you hold the Prime can make a significant difference in how loud it is. The speaker is right at the right hand edge, if you hold it where the speaker is, and sorta cup your hand around the speaker grill, you can direct the sound to reflect off your hand and bounce it towards yourself.
It works surprisingly well and there's no need to install/root or whatever.
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NeoteriX said:
Posted this elsewhere, but I haven't seen anyone mentioning it, so perhaps it bears repeating:
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^ It helps.
Official cover
The thing that annoys me the most is that if you have the official Asus origami cover and use the flat slightly angled fold, it covers the speaker. And yes I agree that having the speaker face away from the user is a bizarre idea.
I found it hard not to cover it when holding in landscape, but once adjusting it actually sounds pretty good.
I think the quality is pretty impressive. Maybe a benefit from B&O working on their laptops.
I've found if you hold it in the right hand landscape mode then with a certain position it reflects the sound so that it appears to come from the left too.
To be honest if watching a film I would probably switch to headphones.
I noticed the same thing on the iPhone. Both phones have their speakers on the bottom of the phone. What does this mean? When you hold the phone in landscape to play games and grip it in gaming grip, the base of your forefinger (first finger) covers the speakers and muffles the sound. I noticed this a lot playing games on my old iPhone. Speaker should be on the back ideally or on the sides.
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I noticed the same thing on the iPhone. Both phones have their speakers on the bottom of the phone. What does this mean? When you hold the phone in landscape to play games and grip it in gaming grip, the base of your forefinger (first finger) covers the speakers and muffles the sound. I noticed this a lot playing games on my old iPhone. Speaker should be on the back ideally or on the sides.
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use headphones
I haven't seen one up close yet, but I thought the power plug was on the bottom now. So, would that be in addition to the speakers on the bottom?? or did they move them elsewhere?
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use headphones
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Thank you for your wonderful useful tip. So I am only allowed to play a game with sound when I plug in headphones. Great practical advice from you! I like to see you hold the phone with the headphone plug digging into your finger too! I know because I made a mockup of the phone and held it in gaming grip.
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I haven't seen one up close yet, but I thought the power plug was on the bottom now. So, would that be in addition to the speakers on the bottom?? or did they move them elsewhere?
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The speakers are on the bottom of the phone on either side of the USB port.
It would be more practical on the back but in terms of design it looks uglier. That's why they put the speakers on the bottom. My Atrix has its speaker on the back and it is much better than when I had an iPhone.
Speakers never bothered me on the iphone 4s when I had it for 6 months so I don't see it as a design flaw here. I am terribly concerned about the size and weight though. I know that the older Lumia phones are thicker but it definitely does not look that way. The 920 looks HUGE and that is saying a lot since I currently have a GS3.
I hope that my concerns disappear after handling or I might have to get an HTC 8x, which I really want to avoid after owning two crappy HTC One X phones.
Personally I kind of like the thickness. Gives it substance. I have held ultra thin phones and think that I'll break them. Speaker placement to me doesn't matter as long as they sound good. I just hope it's more water tolerable than the L900. Saw the torture test on c|net and it wasn't pretty.
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The speakers are on the bottom of the phone on either side of the USB port.
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Just on one side, the other side is the mic.
vioalas said:
Just on one side, the other side is the mic.
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No, tboy is right. They are on both sides.
The 800 also has the speaker on the bottom. It doesn't bother me since I have a light grip on it when I play.
Anyway I think there are always some problems with the placement of the speakers. There is just no perfect solution. If you put it on the back then some people will complain that the sound will get muffled while it's placed on it's back e.g on the bed or the couch. If you wanna put it on the side then you are forced to put one on both sides but most windows phones have 3-4 buttons on one side and adding a speaker would make it look really cluttered and one may end up being muffled again. Top has the same problem as bottom and front wouldn't just work because of aesthetics.
I personally think that the speakers on the bottom are the lesser evil compared to the other options.
The speaker is placed on the bottom is actually a good idea.
With the iPhone it was placed on the bottom due to the alarm, so that the sound would not get blocked.
I always place my phone (s3) upside down just to hear my alarm better , Since I'm a deep sleeper.
The Lumia 920 has no flaws. It was designed hand manufactured by the hand of god. Just kidding. Speaker placement is actually very fine with me. It's more of a preference issue that you brought up. Cnet's torture test of the 900 shows that it will die from water. That should be an indication of what to expect. Then again, it's the only phone I know that you can hammer a nail with and still be fine. The 920 is supposed to be even tougher. So if my phone drowns... At lest I'll still be able to fix thins around the house with it. LOL. Most indestructible phone design I've seen so far was the Galaxy S3. Survive a washer cycle with ease.
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Found this on reddit. Works perfectly. Both speakers even and same tone after as well... .
Alternatively, you can just use root explorer, or es file explorer to change the gain value numbers in/system/etc/mixer_paths.xml file.
After scrolling down for a bit you will see:
"speaker-gain-default"
"Left Speaker Gain value" value="20"
"Right Speaker Gain value" value="20"
Then you change the numbers to what you like (for safety don't put them above 20).
Back out save, then reboot.
Put left at 16
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I think anyone saying the speakers are even aren't noticing. If you look at the breakdown of the phone on Ifixit, you see the bottom speaker is way to the right not even under the grill. The top is center. Makes sense the speaker that is covered is not as loud.
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Found this on reddit. Works perfectly. Both speakers even and same tone after as well... .
I think anyone saying the speakers are even aren't noticing. If you look at the breakdown of the phone on Ifixit, you see the bottom speaker is way to the right not even under the grill. The top is center. Makes sense the speaker that is covered is not as loud.
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What if we rotate the phone the other way? Will "left" side be "right" side and makes sound even more unbalanced? Or can you confirm it is smart enough to figure out which side we are rotating to?
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What if we rotate the phone the other way? Will "left" side be "right" side and makes sound even more unbalanced? Or can you confirm it is smart enough to figure out which side we are rotating to?
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I tested and it stays even.
It works with a 180 degrees phone rotation, they sound more even, just tested. It's sad that we have to do something like this,when it should be true balanced stereo.
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It works with a 180 degrees phone rotation, they sound more even, just tested. It's sad that we have to do something like this,when it should be true balanced stereo.
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Wait do you mean if rotated the other was in landscape mode it works better? I am so upset I go this phone and newegg won't give ma full refund. They want 15% restocking fee, yeah let;s restock a defective phone -_-.
As you hold the phone in landscape mode with the top speaker to your left,you have to rotate it,so that the top speaker is on your right now. Apparently this makes the sound more even,at least in my case,it did. Anyway I took mine back for a refund as it also had unstable wi fi connection and it would heat up to a high level just by watching YouTube.
Seems like there are quite a few speaker issues with this phone. I myself am suffering distortion from the top speaker which I would say sounds very much like the speaker on the 5x(I had both for awhile). Ruins an otherwise great phone experience. Not sure I want to deal with Huawei repair as I've heard nothing but bad things.
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Side note I can't figure out how to edit this file without getting access denied
What phone did you get Instead?
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As you hold the phone in landscape mode with the top speaker to your left,you have to rotate it,so that the top speaker is on your right now. Apparently this makes the sound more even,at least in my case,it did. Anyway I took mine back for a refund as it also had unstable wi fi connection and it would heat up to a high level just by watching YouTube.
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What phone did you get instead
kakavin said:
What phone did you get instead
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The phone I was expecting the least to have,after 6 years of Android and mainly Samsung....IPhone 6s Plus .
I went for this because I wanted a break from rooting,flashing,just something simple that works straight out of the box.First days I did swipe up to unlock or pulled the notification from the top to enable the Wi-Fi.I'm pleased with the acquisition so far.After 1hr of Skype it's just warm.S6 was hot.I still have androids around me Shield Tab,Galaxy A3 as a Mp3 player.TheA3 is nice for that purpose.
I will try this fix. :good:
Great! Is it possible to enable both speakerphone during calls?
are you having rotation bug too? if i lwatch youtube and rotate phone... sound pause for 2 seconds.... are experiencing this too? ty
pato2015 said:
are you having rotation bug too? if i lwatch youtube and rotate phone... sound pause for 2 seconds.... are experiencing this too? ty
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It's normal. Your phone is making the necessary adjustment to the orientation you gave it.
But it doesn't "fix" the problem it just makes the higher one being more low so the higher one just sound equals as the lower one... Or am I wrong?
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Actually my bottom speaker is louder than the top one.
Funny stuff.
adsubzero said:
Actually my bottom speaker is louder than the top one.
Funny stuff.
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Same with mine. Way louder actually
SightSeeker said:
Found this on reddit. Works perfectly. Both speakers even and same tone after as well... .
I think anyone saying the speakers are even aren't noticing. If you look at the breakdown of the phone on Ifixit, you see the bottom speaker is way to the right not even under the grill. The top is center. Makes sense the speaker that is covered is not as loud.
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Thanks. Must have been deaf all this while. Much better.
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Can't find speaker gain left right also file doesn't allow me to edited anything like most other xmls. Is this because I'm on android 8
I'm previously using s8 so I accidentally poked the microphone hole. Thought it was a simcard slot.
Will this affect the IP rating? How do I test if I damaged something?
Thanks!
samwise110712 said:
I'm previously using s8 so I accidentally poked the microphone hole. Thought it was a simcard slot.
Will this affect the IP rating? How do I test if I damaged something?
Thanks!
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can't tell.. maybe you just poked the material not the entire mic, because the mic itself inside must be sealed. that material on the top of the mic is to keep dust and dirt away.. again it depends on how deep you pushed.
To check if the mic is damaged you can use the recorder app in normal mode, and make a recording of you first talking with the top of the phone directed to your mouth and that the bottom.
Listen back to the recording with headphones.
What was the result? Is it OK?
DUDE..I did the same thing on the same phone for the semi same reason (Samsung). So..what happened?...is it fine?
hahahaha welcome to the club, 'been there done that' and the worst part is that I've done it more than once. Apparently it wasn't deep enough as to cause serious damage ! Lately the Huawei and the Note 9 are sharing the same sim card so things like that happen.
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hahahaha welcome to the club, 'been there done that' and the worst part is that I've done it more than once. Apparently it wasn't deep enough as to cause serious damage ! Lately the Huawei and the Note 9 are sharing the same sim card so things like that happen.
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I do feel a bit better reading this....I did poke it a couple of times and pretty hard too...but I think its fine..I did the recording test and there is more noise on the bottom mic than the top..and they both work when the other is blocked...lmao...sure gave me a fright
did the phone will still waterproof after poked the hole
lel, just did the same. how dumb design is it to have the hole the same size and shape ffs.
h8Aramex said:
lel, just did the same. how dumb design is it to have the hole the same size and shape ffs.
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why dumb design? you can clearly see that the mic is on the top as there is NO tray, which is obviously on the left ... damn xD
DeeZZ_NuuZZ said:
why dumb design? you can clearly see that the mic is on the top as there is NO tray, which is obviously on the left ... damn xD
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It's on the top of Samsung S7, Note 9... so... yea, unless it's an industry standard, it's NOT okay to do this IMO.
I have done she thing to my vivo v17 pro i could hear a sound like something for hit and broke like a tissue but still people can hear me very clearly please advise what i have broken
Muhammad0510 said:
I have done she thing to my vivo v17 pro i could hear a sound like something for hit and broke like a tissue but still people can hear me very clearly please advise what i have broken
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who knows? this is not a vivo forum, but Huawei. also you can try to find a teardown video or so for your phone, so you could see the internals.
Ejector tool cannot damage mic...
Cool video... this answers the age old question, "I mistakenly poked the mic hole with the ejector tool, did I damage the mic?"... The answer is no... I'm sure all phone manufacturers thought of this... on pretty much every phone, the actual mic is off to the side internally...
YouTube: at about 3:52 into the video.
Huawei P30 Pro Teardown! - How does a 'Periscope Camera' work?
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The small top hole is one of the microphones. There's an identical one on the bottom of the phone. So, you can make stereo recordings.
https://goo.gl/images/VqxsYw
The earpiece actually turns into a 3rd microphone for high decibel environments, like live concerts.
But that top one is one of the two "regular" microphones.
Thanks, I thought so. Is it only for recording, or for noise reduction too? Recording I don't care about. Also, should I plug it with glue?
Mastiff said:
On autopilot I was going to put in a SIM card in my brand new phone and pressed where the hole was on my previous phone. Bad mistake, I guess... I probably put it right through something vital. Because I used the small hole at the top of the phone. Not the side. The light wasn't all that good, so I didn't notice that there was no SIM holder there. My guess is that it is a mike of some sorts, but I tried to record sound and had no problems with that. And it seems like there's a mike at the bottom of the thing too. So what did I mess up this time?
Edit: And does this mean that the phone isn't water resistant anymore? Can I stuff a bit of black silicone glue (the type used in bathroooms) in there with the pointy tool to make it water resistant again?
Edit 2: Oh, please drop the idiot jokes. I know it! Googling I have seen that I am far from the only one that has done that, I just would like to know exactly what it is on this phone, and if I should plug the hole to keep i waterproof. That's rather important for me, because I am an avid hobby crawfish and crab fisher and will probably get water splashing over this.
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Aren't there barometer measuring apps for that ?
I read that by checking on pressure you can find out if your phone is still water resistant
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Thanks, I thought so. Is it only for recording, or for noise reduction too? Recording I don't care about. Also, should I plug it with glue?
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How about fixing it?
LG V30 Microphone Replacement
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/LG+V30+Microphone+Replacement/104093
If you don't want to tackle it, cell phone repair shop can.
That top mic is probably used for noise reduction during phone calls (since it's the top mic and you would speak into the bottom one), but used for recording stereo when actually recording? I'm sort of guessing on this.
If someone who is audio has better answer, jump in.
zacharias.maladroit, I have also read that. But I have read that it doesn't work as well, since the holes "breathe", they are mes of goretex or similar material. But I'll try anyway, thanks.
ChazzMatt, Interesting, thanks! Looking at that video at around 4:55 it may seem like the pin must have penetrated to the side of the microphone! I think I see the pinhole to the right of where the actual microphone is. As for fixing it, I am far to clumsy. But using a shop is of course an option, the only thing is that the phone is brand new and I'm guessing I'll loose the warranty for that. But I think I will first of all find out if the microphone isn't damaged, and then I will see what happens when I cover the hole. If it doesn't change the call qualty I will probably choose (at least for now) to glue shut that pinhole. If it is a problem for call quality I can maybe live with that using a silicone case and a piece of electrical tape over the pinhole when I go out to fish.
ChazzMatt said:
How about fixing it?
LG V30 Microphone Replacement
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/LG+V30+Microphone+Replacement/104093
If you don't want to tackle it, cell phone repair shop can.
That top mic is probably used for noise reduction during phone calls (since it's the top mic and you would speak into the bottom one), but used for recording stereo when actually recording? I'm sort of guessing on this.
If someone who is audio has better answer, jump in.
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ChazzMatt, Interesting, thanks! Looking at that video at around 4:55 it may seem like the pin must have penetrated to the side of the microphone!
think I see the pinhole to the right of where the actual microphone is. As for fixing it, I am far to clumsy. But using a shop is of course an option, the only thing is that the phone is brand new and I'm guessing I'll loose the warranty for that. But I think I will first of all find out if the microphone isn't damaged, and then I will see what happens when I cover the hole. If it doesn't change the call qualty I will probably choose (at least for now) to glue shut that pinhole. If it is a problem for call quality I can maybe live with that using a silicone case and a piece of electrical tape over the pinhole when I go out to fish.
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Yeah, 4:55 - 5:30 on that video shows taking out the old mic and putting in the new, for anyone else who needs to do it.
I thought it was the portal through which the Little Green men inVariably came out 30 times each night to hide your car keys, TV remote, and generally turn your life into a living hell?
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