Has anyone tried using a T-Mobile SIM in a smartphone as either a strictly data only device or in a device with two SIM trays for supplementary data? I am very interested in doing this with the 5x if it is possible. Thanks in advance.
There is a selection for which sim you want to use for Mobile Data in the SIM Management however since the device is a Dual Sim Passive device you will have to manually change to the Data only SIM once you run out of data on your primary phone SIM.
retepoh said:
There is a selection for which sim you want to use for Mobile Data in the SIM Management however since the device is a Dual Sim Passive device you will have to manually change to the Data only SIM once you run out of data on your primary phone SIM.
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Perhaps I did not phrase my original question properly, I am wondering whether or not I can use the T-Mobile tablet specific sim in a phone. I know that I can use two sims and switch between them however, I do not know if T-Mobile will allow me to use a tablet sim in a phone.
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Perhaps I did not phrase my original question properly, I am wondering whether or not I can use the T-Mobile tablet specific sim in a phone. I know that I can use two sims and switch between them however, I do not know if T-Mobile will allow me to use a tablet sim in a phone.
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Yes. I have done so.
Yes per T-Mobile support. I asked them directly when I tried to do this. And what crpalmer said.
I went ahead and got a tablet sim, 2gb for $20. I can confirm that it is working in the 5x. Thank you all for the help.
Difference between tablet and phone plan
What is the technical difference between the tablet and phone plans? I have a tablet Sim in my second slot and I am able to receive and send text messages. When I go on the website it lists my plan as having unlimited text and calls. Could I use this as my primary phone plan?
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I just got an unlocked galaxy note that I want to use without a data plan so I tried transplanting my AT&T flip phone sim to the note but I get a message saying "sim not allowed mm#3". So of course I can't make any calls other than emergency. Does AT&T restrict smart phones to use only sims that have data plans? Do I need to root and use cyanogen to get this to work? Does anyone if that will even work?
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Hish
U sure it's unlocked? That message usually means it isn't...
Use the free unlock available, I used it without issue on my note. You'll should be able to use ANY Sim with an unlocked phone, regardless of data or no data.
The Amazon seller advertises it as unlocked. That's all I can say for sure. Does the unlock you refer to require root? Would you happen to have a link to the unlock?
Thanks for the help.
icenight89 said:
U sure it's unlocked? That message usually means it isn't...
Use the free unlock available, I used it without issue on my note. You'll should be able to use ANY Sim with an unlocked phone, regardless of data or no data.
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A little searching goes a long way sir. Googling "i717 Sim unlock xda" would have got you what you needed.
You don't need root, but you do need a custom recovery. Twrp is easily installed via Odin.
http://str8pt.blogspot.ca/2013/06/unlock-simfree-method-for-galaxy-note.html?m=1
Sure, you are right and normally I do search...everyone's run a stop sign at least once right?
Thanks for the help ice.
Hish
icenight89 said:
A little searching goes a long way sir. Googling "i717 Sim unlock xda" would have got you what you needed.
You don't need root, but you do need a custom recovery. Twrp is easily installed via Odin.
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Yes, at&t won't let you use any smart phone without a data plan. They will just add it to your bill.
But this phone won't connect to the network without an updated sim card.
You don't need root access or network unlock to run an at&t sim, you just need a sim made for a smartphone.
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Yes, at&t won't let you use any smart phone without a data plan. They will just add it to your bill.
But this phone won't connect to the network without an updated sim card.
You don't need root access or network unlock to run an at&t sim, you just need a sim made for a smartphone.
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I'm fairly certain you are incorrect. Its your sim card and you can put it in whatever phone you choose.
With that being said I am in Canada and on Rogers, so I can't very well confirm this. Maybe someone else can weigh in?
If an unlocked phone uses another carrier sim you get a screen to enter unlock code.
He is using an at&t sim so its going to connect to the voice/sms network automatically in an at&t branded phone if the sim is compatible.
That old flipphone sim won't work in a smartphone. The OP either needs to upgrade the sim or call at&t and have the sim reprovisioned (if they can).
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And when the OP calls at&t they will tell him to use that phone he will have to buy a data plan.
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If an unlocked phone uses another carrier sim you get a screen to enter unlock code.
He is using an at&t sim so its going to connect to the voice/sms network automatically in an at&t branded phone if the sim is compatible.
That old flipphone sim won't work in a smartphone. The OP either needs to upgrade the sim or call at&t and have the sim reprovisioned (if they can).
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And when the OP calls at&t they will tell him to use that phone he will have to buy a data plan.
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Yes that's true, I'm not disagreeing with you here on the connectivity.
The later however is false. I know for a fact LTE capable smart phones are backwards compatible with "3g only Sims" aka his flipphone sim, so what you're saying is incorrect. I work with this kind of equipment on a daily basis at work.
The later is also false. All he needs to do is go to a corporate store and say he lost his old phone and sim with it, and needs a replacement. They'll provide a new one, and link it to his existing account and merely charge him a replacement fee.
I thought Canadians were polite . . . Amigo, you're just offering your opinion, but I just went through this with at&t for my sister-in-law. She had an old HTC flipphone and wanted my HTC smartphone with a great keyboard. We put her old sim in and got that error code. We went to an at&t corporate store, and they gave us a new sim and we left with a working phone. After a day of using it she got a text message saying a two gig data plan was required. When she didn't acknowledge that, they cut off the account.
The sim was free. Don't tell me I'm wrong when you don't really know what you're talking about.
I can sim swap between my work phone which is a flip phone and an iPhone 3GS both are on at&t without any issues so I'm not sure what you guys are having trouble with. I believe what the OP is asking for would require spoofing an IMEI of a flip phone aka dumb phone.
There should be some info on how to do that in the at&t Galaxy Tab forums.
Good luck
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You can use an old flip phone sim card in the Note. I have an older Cingular 3G Sim card (now at 8yrs old or maybe older) that I have been using in my last few smartphones. Including the Note. Worked perfectly fine. And because my phone was Canadian I was able to add the MediaNet unlimited data plan for only $10 a month. Been using it that way for years without an issue. I have even tested it in AT&T branded smartphones briefly and never had any issues.
Edit: Searching the web, that error may mean there is an outage in your area. If you physically look at the Sim Card what color, words, and pic is on the card? Sim could be worn out also. But in the end ATT will not let you use that plan with this phone for long before charging you.
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I thought Canadians were polite . . . Amigo, you're just offering your opinion, but I just went through this with at&t for my sister-in-law. She had an old HTC flipphone and wanted my HTC smartphone with a great keyboard. We put her old sim in and got that error code. We went to an at&t corporate store, and they gave us a new sim and we left with a working phone. After a day of using it she got a text message saying a two gig data plan was required. When she didn't acknowledge that, they cut off the account.
The sim was free. Don't tell me I'm wrong when you don't really know what you're talking about.
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The two posts following yours confirmed what I was originally saying sir, and quite frankly I do know what I'm talking about. I work ICT for a North American wide company and regularly travel to the states supporting events that require this kind of connectivity.
As for you're sister in law, she probably got that message because a background app was attempting to use data, and it wasn't disabled on the phone, thus the text. This I have also encountered.
Back on topic, I agree there may be a network outage in your area. But if all else fails a visit to the AT&T store can't hurt. Worst case scenario just sell the note on Craig list
Lol here in the US we dont have kijiji, but an alternate called craigslist. I do believe using the sim unlock method plus deactivating data might work. Try using the phone in another area to confirm ices theory of an outage.
I'm looking to flash to straight talk using a donor phone, but I can't dial anything because I lack a SIM card. Is there a way to bypass the SIM check and just use cdma and 3g?
What is necessary to make this happen? If it's impossible without a SIM, do I just need a Verizon SIM card?
I really want to use this as my phone, but until I can get it to dial I'm dead in the water.
I have my fascinate on St right now, but have a brand new donor phone as well if I need it.
Anyone here who can help? I have the software, I just need to get over this hurdle as I've no idea where to find a previously activated SIM card.
Note, I need to use Verizon towers because of my area, so I must be on cdma.
straight talk uses sim cards. And you do need that for this phone to act as a phone. I mean you should be able to get their sim edit your apns if needed and be ready to roll.
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straight talk uses sim cards. And you do need that for this phone to act as a phone. I mean you should be able to get their sim edit your apns if needed and be ready to roll.
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Straight talk sims are for ATT/Tmobile network access. However, they do offer a CDMA code to access that network:
http://www.straighttalk.com/wps/portal/home/shop/sims#.UwSs90JdXtF
When you use a gear s does it effectively turn your phone into a dual sim phone?
What I want to do is buy a voice/text sim from one carrier and a data sim from another carrier. (each carrier is cheapest at one feature)
If I put the DATA sim in the watch, will my phone piggy-back that data?
If I put the VOICE/TEXT sim in the phone, will my watch ring and display texts?
And most importantly will both happen at the same time?
Essentially, will the watch turn my single sim phone into a dual sim phone?
EDIT** also considering the opposite.
The data sim in the phone and the voice/text sim in the watch.
For that situation, can I text from my phone using the watch number? Calls from the phone use the watch number?
Watch use the Phone's data plan?
This section option is only if I must... it seems a bit backwards logistically.
I basically want the watch to be a bluetooth data hotspot that also functions as a voice/texting smartwatch.
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When you use a gear s does it effectively turn your phone into a dual sim phone?
What I want to do is buy a voice/text sim from one carrier and a data sim from another carrier. (each carrier is cheapest at one feature)
If I put the DATA sim in the watch, will my phone piggy-back that data?
If I put the VOICE/TEXT sim in the phone, will my watch ring and display texts?
And most importantly will both happen at the same time?
Essentially, will the watch turn my single sim phone into a dual sim phone?
EDIT** also considering the opposite.
The data sim in the phone and the voice/text sim in the watch.
For that situation, can I text from my phone using the watch number? Calls from the phone use the watch number?
Watch use the Phone's data plan?
This section option is only if I must... it seems a bit backwards logistically.
I basically want the watch to be a bluetooth data hotspot that also functions as a voice/texting smartwatch.
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If I put the DATA sim in the watch, will my phone piggy-back that data? no, why would you? The watch is 4g only (very slow)
If I put the VOICE/TEXT sim in the phone, will my watch ring and display texts? yes only when its BT to the phone
Other ways?
If I put the DATA sim in the phone, will my watch piggy-back that data? maybe but not likely. I don't even think the data will work without phone service?
If I put the VOICE/TEXT sim in the watch, will my phone ring and display texts? nope
I have tried to take the sim out of my watch and put it in my iPad and that doesn't even work. The iPad would have to be provisioned to use the service.
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I don't even think the data will work without phone service?
The iPad would have to be provisioned to use the service.
If I put the VOICE/TEXT sim in the watch, will my phone ring and display texts? nope
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Hello and thanks for your response.
Maybe I can phrase this better. I'll phrase it a few different ways below.
I have 1 Sim. - Unlimited calling. Pay through your nose for data.
I have a 2nd Sim - Near Unlimited Data. Pay through your nose for calling.
Both have been provisioned numbers but for my purposes. one will ONLY be used for data. The other will ONLY be used for voice/text.
Where I'm lost is why doesn't your gear s sim work in your Ipad? I thought the Gear S uses a regular sim? My Data sim works in an Ipad... an Iphone... Android... Windows Phone. Etc. Are you suggesting it wouldn't work in the gear S?
Any 3G is better than no G.
If I put my voice/text sim in my phone and don't have a second slot for data... I'd be pretty happy if my watch could share 3G.
The 3rd point I quoted above, where you said nope, is the reason I'd put the data sim in the watch.
I'd want the BT connection active at all times and the phone siphon data from that watch's sim.
To paraphrase, heres the proposed problem.
I have sim 1 for calling and texting.
I have sim 2 for data.
Is there a situation where I can have one in each device (I don't care which goes in which) and the end result is calling/texting/data on both devices.
(using sim 1 exclusively for calling and sim 2 exclusively for data.)
You need voice, SMS and data on both SIM cards in order to operate fully. You can't share with each other. Alternatively, you can have just one SIM (on the phone) and let watch just be a BT tethered all the time (without ever use the cell radio on the watch).
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You need voice, SMS and data on both SIM cards in order to operate fully. You can't share with each other. Alternatively, you can have just one SIM (on the phone) and let watch just be a BT tethered all the time (without ever use the cell radio on the watch).
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Gotcha. Shame they didn't implement this to work as a dual sim solution where both devices complement each other.
I'll just have to buy a dual sim phone instead of a watch I guess. Maybe a Moto G.
Thanks for your help!
I about to buy this tablet, but have some concerns regarding the LTE version support with T-Mobile in the USA.
Can i use a phone sim with this tablet? **Just to be clear in regards to phone sim with T-Mobile i mean that i can use the tablet on a phone plan (voice+data) and not data only like they did in the Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact**
Does it support T-Mobiles LTE bands?
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I about to buy this tablet, but have some concerns regarding the LTE version support with T-Mobile.
Can i use a phone sim with this tablet?
Does it support T-Mobiles LTE bands?
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Hi,
1. Yes with nano sim. Userguide: http://support.sonymobile.com/global-en/xperiaz4tablet/userguide/
2. You can download the whitepaper for th SGP771 here: http://developer.sonymobile.com/downloads/whitepapers/xperia-z4-tablet-sgp771-white-paper/
And see if the T-Mobiles band is supported. (And I have no doubt that it is supported)
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Hi,
1. Yes with nano sim. Userguide: http://support.sonymobile.com/global-en/xperiaz4tablet/userguide/
2. You can download the whitepaper for th SGP771 here: http://developer.sonymobile.com/downloads/whitepapers/xperia-z4-tablet-sgp771-white-paper/
And see if the T-Mobiles band is supported. (And I have no doubt that it is supported)
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Just to be clear in regards to phone sim with T-Mobile i mean that i can use the tablet on a phone plan (voice+data) and not data only like they did in the Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact
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Just to be clear in regards to phone sim with T-Mobile i mean that i can use the tablet on a phone plan (voice+data) and not data only like they did in the Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact
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Read the user guide "calling" page
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Read the user guide "calling" page
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Doesn't say anything about T-Mobile in the US. Even when some tablets support it it is block by their network and if you put a phone sim card on it it will only do calls/sms and no data or you need to use a data-device sim card which doesnt support calls. Hence my question in regards to an specific provider.
I have a T-Mobile sim in mine right now. I can tell you that I DO NOT have a phone app in order to make calls. I am using a sim card from my second phone account. It connects to LTE fine and has good speeds on data. I am not sure if it's because the tablet is considered international or if it's blocked from T-Mobile. I contacted Sony and did not get much information.
I wish the OP or others would chime in about this. @legendindisguise may I ask what model yours is and where you got it from? What makes it more challenging is that the model number is SGP771 (right?) but for some it works for others not, so perhaps like the OP said the network is somehow blocking this feature?
Just to add to this post there is two model versions of the SGP771 with wifi and LTE I believe.
International version 43015809
Alledged US version 13035541
UK model ? Comes with keyboard 12957383
I just got a SIM card for my Xperia Z4 Tablet LTE (SGP771 / 13035541) on the AT&T network with a new AT&T account. This SIM is a new line with Phone+Data and I am having an issue making calls and making data connections (websites, etc..). I am still investigating and will update everyone when I figure something out. Odd thing is that the tablet connects to the network enough to display AT&T, the correct phone number assigned to the device, and 3 AT&T APNs, but nothing is working.
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I just got a SIM card for my Xperia Z4 Tablet LTE (SGP771 / 13035541) on the AT&T network with a new AT&T account. This SIM is a new line with Phone+Data and I am having an issue making calls and making data connections (websites, etc..). I am still investigating and will update everyone when I figure something out. Odd thing is that the tablet connects to the network enough to display AT&T, the correct phone number assigned to the device, and 3 AT&T APNs, but nothing is working.
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Does it show the inbuilt phone dialler?
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Yes I have the phone dialer
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Totally forgot to update this post! Works great on the AT&T network. I did have to call AT&T to update the APN details but after that it works great. I can make phone calls and use the LTE data without any issues. I even took it to Spain and it worked great there too.
So I recently found out that I needed to get a sim card and connect to mobile data in order to unlock my pad 4 plus and so I thought I could use Tmo's 4g/3g network, went to the store in order to get a nano sim card because my old tablet used a micro sim, then I found out later that there's not even a 3g band for tmo that can connect to the tablet. I could just be dumb to buy the tablet from China but in reality I was going to use to on WIFI only and 4g would be a plus. But since Xiaomi doesn't allow for Mi Unlock Tool to be used on WIFI, I can't even unlock the bootloader, I have a useless sim card and mobile line, and am looking for another way just to unlock this device.
It's disappointing to know that I can't even unlock the device on WIFI.
Please, I would greatly appreciate it if someone can find a solution to unlock the device via Wifi
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So I recently found out that I needed to get a sim card and connect to mobile data in order to unlock my pad 4 plus and so I thought I could use Tmo's 4g/3g network, went to the store in order to get a nano sim card because my old tablet used a micro sim, then I found out later that there's not even a 3g band for tmo that can connect to the tablet. I could just be dumb to buy the tablet from China but in reality I was going to use to on WIFI only and 4g would be a plus. But since Xiaomi doesn't allow for Mi Unlock Tool to be used on WIFI, I can't even unlock the bootloader, I have a useless sim card and mobile line, and am looking for another way just to unlock this device.
It's disappointing to know that I can't even unlock the device on WIFI.
Please, I would greatly appreciate it if someone can find a solution to unlock the device via Wifi
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I'd like to know too. I figured lte meant it could take tmobile, but I'm a bit disappointed. Any work around to get it working for tmobile?
a quick check here: https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/xiaomi-mi-pad-4-wi-fi shows that it should support at least B5 on the T-Mobile network. But we don't know the band coverage over the country, so you might simply be living in an area without any usable bands.
Looking at this list, we can see that Sprint apparently has 2 supported bands (B5 and B41) so maybe you can try a Sprint SIM? Maybe someone you know has sprint and can borrow you their card? Or maybe Sprint offers a cheap prepaid plan you can use temporarily?