Hi everyone,
I have been testing Slidejoy for a month now and I think it deserves to be shared. I know not everyone can stand having ads on their phone, but I really didn't find it intrusive. I tested various other advertisement apps, and this one is my favourite so far.
Here is the concept : The app creates a lockscreen (I deactivated my android lockscreen otherwise I have two) and displays ads on it. You don't have to click or read anything, you just swype to the right and it disappears. By doing that, you gain littles diamonds every day (I made 350 this month) and the next month, they become bankable (100=1$). You can choose to be paid on Paypal but there are others solutions.
Here is a screenshot of the lockscreen (it's in french for me but you can put it in english) :
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I hope some of you like the app, I personally am very satisfied with it. Here is a subscribe link if you want to help me get some diamonds getslidejoy.com/r/EVgg8?id=1 :fingers-crossed:
3,50 $ (less than 3 €) for a whole month watching ads... Well, no.
Zwulf said:
3,50 $ (less than 3 €) for a whole month watching ads... Well, no.
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I totally understand that point of view, but I think you should give it a little bit more perspective. When you are browsing on the internet, even though you might use an adblocker, you still see a hell of a lot of sponsored contents, and you see it for free.
Now I know some people love their lockscreen and they wouldn't change it for some bucks. But considering the amount of advertisement everyone of us sees every day, getting 3,5$ a month (42$ a year, that pays two months of mobile communication for me) sounds like a pretty good deal
Love the concept, but prefer battery life over the money.
kekwowse01 said:
Love the concept, but prefer battery life over the money.
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Well, there's not much to worry about regarding the battery, I did'nt notice any drain and when I check the battery stats, it's never above 3-4%
What could be more annoying is data consumption, and I can't say anything about that because I have a big plan (50Gb LTE), so I never check
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I totally understand that point of view, but I think you should give it a little bit more perspective. When you are browsing on the internet, even though you might use an adblocker, you still see a hell of a lot of sponsored contents, and you see it for free.
Now I know some people love their lockscreen and they wouldn't change it for some bucks. But considering the amount of advertisement everyone of us sees every day, getting 3,5$ a month (42$ a year, that pays two months of mobile communication for me) sounds like a pretty good deal
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Not for me. I would love to see less advertising... All this trash surrounding me everyday. A city for me is a living space not a surface to place ads. Too much ads disrupting the place we live everywhere I don't get anything for, but have to look at this ugly trash anytime. I won't add those ads to those little spaces where I gladly don't get spammed by ads. For just a few cents. Just no.
Still everyone should do how he/she likes but for me personally I find it kinda scary to see people voluntarily exposing themselves to such stimulus satiation (which is even causing serious mental injuries to not only a few people btw.) everywhere they go and look at. It would be much nicer to see more trees than more ads. Ads just make me sick and I'd love to see not one single ad anywhere... These few bucks aren't worth it (one whole year watching these ads isn't even enough for the weekly shopping at the mall once... and you call this a good deal? Really?). A very low price for invading and disrupting your private spaces.
Still, as already mentioned, everyone is free to do what he/she wants...
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Not for me. I would love to see less advertising... All this trash surrounding me everyday. A city for me is a living space not a surface to place ads. Too much ads disrupting the place we live everywhere I don't get anything for, but have to look at this ugly trash anytime. I won't add those ads to those little spaces where I gladly don't get spammed by ads. For just a few cents. Just no.
Still everyone should do how he/she likes but for me personally I find it kinda scary to see people voluntarily exposing themselves to such stimulus satiation (which is even causing serious mental injuries to not only a few people btw.) everywhere they go and look at. It would be much nicer to see more trees than more ads. Ads just make me sick and I'd love to see not one single ad anywhere... These few bucks aren't worth it (one whole year watching these ads isn't even enough for the weekly shopping at the mall once... and you call this a good deal? Really?). A very low price for invading and disrupting your private spaces.
Still, as already mentioned, everyone is free to do what he/she wants...
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Waow OK hum I was just here to share the app though LOL
One person signed up (thank you!) so it wasn't useless!
What did u get out of it?
moody5ausage said:
What did u get out of it?
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Really works made $15 in a few months, free money for doing nothing, why not have it installed
McGuigew said:
Hi everyone,
I have been testing Slidejoy for a month now and I think it deserves to be shared. I know not everyone can stand having ads on their phone, but I really didn't find it intrusive. I tested various other advertisement apps, and this one is my favourite so far.
Here is the concept : The app creates a lockscreen (I deactivated my android lockscreen otherwise I have two) and displays ads on it. You don't have to click or read anything, you just swype to the right and it disappears. By doing that, you gain littles diamonds every day (I made 350 this month) and the next month, they become bankable (100=1$). You can choose to be paid on Paypal but there are others solutions.
Here is a screenshot of the lockscreen (it's in french for me but you can put it in english) :
(click to see a larger image)
I hope some of you like the app, I personally am very satisfied with it. Here is a subscribe link if you want to help me get some diamonds getslidejoy.com/r/EVgg8?id=1 :fingers-crossed:
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I will give it a go. Cheers ?
Here is the link for others to sign up:
getslidejoy.com/r/EVgg8?id=1
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It says 1000 diamond is a dollar not 100… . pff…
ok, you told us about 3 euro/month. i could appreciate, but consider:
1)more battery drain, so you have to charge your phone few times more, so much more electricity.
2)spam on you phone
3)other app with permissions installed
4)privacy less than before
markurt30 said:
ok, you told us about 3 euro/month. i could appreciate, but consider:
1)more battery drain, so you have to charge your phone few times more, so much more electricity.
2)spam on you phone
3)other app with permissions installed
4)privacy less than before
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Always a catch too free money!
sisqoboy said:
I will give it a go. Cheers
Here is the link for others to sign up:
getslidejoy.com/r/EVgg8?id=1
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It says 1000 diamond is a dollar not 100… . pff…
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Hey, yeah indeed but you also earn ten times more now
I don't why they decided to change that, but it's just the same x10
markurt30 said:
ok, you told us about 3 euro/month. i could appreciate, but consider:
1)more battery drain, so you have to charge your phone few times more, so much more electricity.
2)spam on you phone
3)other app with permissions installed
4)privacy less than before
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1) The additional drain on your battery should'nt even be noticeable... less than 5%
2) Spam yes, indeed, that' the principle of it all...
3) I did not get shocked with permissions it asked for
4) There's no privacy on an android device ahah
Just a little update regarding the money, I do little surveys sometimes and I happen to make more than 3 euros now, more like 10 per month. I made roughly 50 euros since the beginning of 2016 no regrets!
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1) The additional drain on your battery should'nt even be noticeable... less than 5%
2) Spam yes, indeed, that' the principle of it all...
3) I did not get shocked with permissions it asked for
4) There's no privacy on an android device ahah
Just a little update regarding the money, I do little surveys sometimes and I happen to make more than 3 euros now, more like 10 per month. I made roughly 50 euros since the beginning of 2016 no regrets!
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Nothing wrong with a bit of extra coin I made another $3 this month with zero effort
Possible workaround for this app
So I have also had this app for a while and I see a lot of potential with it. I was wondering if it was possible(via app or some other way) to lock your screen without actually turning off your phone.
Pressing the power button to lock it will turn off or sleep your phone*
So basically if there is a way to press something and go straight to the lockscreen without worrying about it turning off or sleeping.
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Hi,
ik was wondering if there is any way to delete all the anoying ads you get by google in the androidsystem, because they are pretty anoying! They use up too much of my screen and I don't want em there!
Is there a solution for this?
I just want an ad-free android phone. If I want to see ads I go looking for them myself! I allready get this sh*t in my email, mail, internetsurfing, TV, magazines, ingame, etc, etc.
If it comes into your personal stuff it's just spam, am I right?
I just don't want no ads/spam no more in my phone!!!!!!!!!!!!
(sounds like a song!)
DaViDoViTsCh said:
Hi,
ik was wondering if there is any way to delete all the anoying ads you get by google in the androidsystem, because they are pretty anoying! They use up too much of my screen and I don't want em there!
Is there a solution for this?
I just want an ad-free android phone. If I want to see ads I go looking for them myself! I allready get this sh*t in my email, mail, internetsurfing, TV, magazines, ingame, etc, etc.
If it comes into your personal stuff it's just spam, am I right?
I just don't want no ads/spam no more in my phone!!!!!!!!!!!!
(sounds like a song!)
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"I just want an ad-free android phone."
You just answered your own question download "adfree " . it removes the adds rather i should say it blocks the adds bu just keeping a blank screen . something is better then nothing. I use it myself, and i don't mind the little blank screen which you will never-ever notice.
Your device need to be rooted for using Adfree.
Just remember, you're hurting the developers who wrote that program for you to use. But, if you're ok with that, do what the guy above said.
i've never understood how online andvertisment works.
Never clicked on a single ad and yet they're making money?
sense none
It's called "impressions". They pay very little, but, if you've got a big enough audience, they are good enough.
Also, people do click on ads, you'd be surprised. I've clicked on a few, especially in apps that I really like and want to support the devs.
Well, I'm not asking for those ads! If i use an app, it's because I want to use that app, not because there are some interesting ads in it!
And oc I dont want blank space instead! I wan to use my screen for what I am doing at that moment!
DaViDoViTsCh said:
And oc I dont want blank space instead! I wan to use my screen for what I am doing at that moment!
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Then pay for the App, Or find the donate version and buy it.
DaViDoViTsCh said:
Well, I'm not asking for those ads! If i use an app, it's because I want to use that app, not because there are some interesting ads in it!
And oc I dont want blank space instead! I wan to use my screen for what I am doing at that moment!
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Without those Ads there wouldnt be any free apps because thats what helps devs progress on work, u want no ads? Do what the guy suggested above and from the second post, i find it funny how u see it annoying, its a marketing stradegy, get over it
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XERO_Racer said:
i find it funny how u see it annoying, its a marketing stradegy, get over it
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Well I think it's f**ked up that we live in a society like that! I already paid for the phone!
But I get the picture... I will try that second post blank spot on my screen by lack of better.
Thnx
DaViDoViTsCh said:
Well I think it's f**ked up that we live in a society like that! I already paid for the phone!
But I get the picture... I will try that second post blank spot on my screen by lack of better.
Thnx
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You think it's messed up we live in a society where people should receive money for work they did?
You paid for your PC, does that mean all the software should be free? You've paid for a refrigerator, does that mean your food should be free? You've paid for a car, does that mean gas should be free?
When you grow up, you'll hopefully realize that people work hard for a reason.
Well, I guess it's for money, right?!
But still it doesn't mean that they have to spam it into my life!
You missed my point: I'm happy and willing to pay for what I need and people offer, but it's still my choise to go looking for it myself, instead of being spammed on my mobile, TV, email, regular mail, etc...
I perfectly know what I want and don't want. It has nothing to do with groing up.
It's just a shame that we live in a society in what this is all seen as 'normal'.
Ontopic: after experiencing adfree for two days now, I can say I'm happy with it.
DaViDoViTsCh said:
Well, I guess it's for money, right?!
But still it doesn't mean that they have to spam it into my life!
You missed my point: I'm happy and willing to pay for what I need and people offer, but it's still my choise to go looking for it myself, instead of being spammed on my mobile, TV, email, regular mail, etc...
I perfectly know what I want and don't want. It has nothing to do with groing up.
It's just a shame that we live in a society in what this is all seen as 'normal'.
Ontopic: after experiencing adfree for two days now, I can say I'm happy with it.
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For people like you it doesnt have effect, however there are lots of people, actually most of the humans, who are catchable for advertisements.
If it didnt create any turnover companies stopped advertising ages ago. Now they are willing to pay huge amounts of money to get advertising time during a important tv event...so this is a cheap way for small companies to get their names into the already overloaded free market where we luckily live in.
For you it is one of the downsides of this free world, for them it is an oppurtunity to increase business.
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And this is why Communism still exists...
iead1 said:
You think it's messed up we live in a society where people should receive money for work they did?
You paid for your PC, does that mean all the software should be free? You've paid for a refrigerator, does that mean your food should be free? You've paid for a car, does that mean gas should be free?
When you grow up, you'll hopefully realize that people work hard for a reason.
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well, and linux somehow exists, ad free
Hi,
I've got 3 apps/live wallpapers currently on the market (links listed below in my signature), all with free and donation versions. Between them they have had just under 32,000 downloads in the last four months. They've been rated between 4 and 5 stars with positive feedback.
Can anyone think of a reason why I've only had a couple of dozen sales of the donation versions? (Many thanks if you have bought one )
It can't be lack of visibility or quality as the free versions seem to be quite popular and are getting healthy reviews. The donation versions have extra functionality as a bonus incentive. It's not price - they are as cheap as I can make them!
Am I missing something? I am at a loss. Please can somebody point me in the right direction?
I'm not naieve enough to think I'll make a ton of cash out of it, just enough to even partially justify the effort I've put in would be nice.
Regards,
Paul
Strangemoo
Hi,
You can get answers to your questions if you look at Wiki - Product Marketing. It is not simple, but when you start to understand this process, your sales will grow.
Sorry for my English.
pphillips001 said:
Can anyone think of a reason why I've only had a couple of dozen sales of the donation versions?
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Because people want things for free is the simple answer.
pphillips001 said:
Hi,
I've got 3 apps/live wallpapers currently on the market (links listed below in my signature), all with free and donation versions. Between them they have had just under 32,000 downloads in the last four months. They've been rated between 4 and 5 stars with positive feedback.
Can anyone think of a reason why I've only had a couple of dozen sales of the donation versions? (Many thanks if you have bought one )
It can't be lack of visibility or quality as the free versions seem to be quite popular and are getting healthy reviews. The donation versions have extra functionality as a bonus incentive. It's not price - they are as cheap as I can make them!
Am I missing something? I am at a loss. Please can somebody point me in the right direction?
I'm not naieve enough to think I'll make a ton of cash out of it, just enough to even partially justify the effort I've put in would be nice.
Regards,
Paul
Strangemoo
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Are the free versions ad supported?
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I am speaking from a position of total ignorance here but, if I were in your shoes, I would totally just remove the free versions...
Or stick ads in the free versions
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Yep it is very very simple. Free, even with ads people will choose over the paid versions. Even at 99 cents it's enough for people not to purchase.
Plus if your apps make it to pirating sites, there is no point in buying the app. Even my sister can figure out the piracy stuff for android and she cant even install Windows 7.
I will give you my objective experience as a random android user.
I don't think you have done anything wrong. I installed both Dino Pop and Zombie Pop and found myself chuckling and having fun.
I think that it's just something that doesn't fit in the paid app category as much.
I usually pay for apps that I find useful or have promise of future, as of yet unrevealed, entertainment.
I don't know what the limitations of live wallpaper are, but even a simple game needs a) unpredictable change of scenery b) the need for strategy (to entice the mind to test its abilities) c) some kind of final challenge (maybe like a boss zombie or something, to give that sense of accomplishment)
These are just my super honest thoughts, 100% intended to help out.
On a related note, I used to love this arcade game called strikers 1945 plus. I always thought it would be awesome to have a live wallpaper game like that (but obviously not as in depth..it's wallpaper lol)...again, not sure how difficult something like that would be. Just my two cents.
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My thinking...
Case 1: If I find an app for free that also has a Donate version, without any extra features, I will never pay for it. Period.
Case 2: Usually when there is a free app, that also has a paid version without ads, I will buy it if I use the free version enough to wish it didn't have ads.
Case 3: There is a free app (usually a game) that I use continuously every/every other day and I will see that there is a paid version. The paid version has tons of cool features, options, game levels, etc. If I get a little bored of the free version, and really need something extra, I usually won't hesitate to buy it. (Ex. Noogra Nuts, Navy Wars)
Then there's those apps like FriendCaster and Twitter apps with ads. The paid version of FriendCaster is $5. I won't ever buy it to remove the ads. I won't pay for it simply because they don't get in the way, and I can access Facebook/Twitter in many different ways.
Even the name "Whatever App - DONATE" is just a red flag to users. Basically they might see that, and just not even look at it. They won't even see that there are extra options available. You might be able to get away with changing the name (to 'Pro version' or just without 'Donate') and really push the extra functionality.
Just my thoughts about free/donate/paid versions of apps. Hope it helps
Oh, and I like your LWs, keep up the good work!
I agree and have had a somewhat similar experience. I have bought a live wallpaper before because it had added functionality and got rid of upgrade messages on the homescreen (photolive wallpaper). The free version was good enough for me to try it and see what its like, but still restrictive enough for me to have to buy it. I have also donated to an app called Llama, but this is a special case where I will donate more than the small amount in the android market because I love the app and the dev isn't asking what I am willing to pay.
I would say to restrict the free versions of features and really give people both an incentive and reason to upgrade the product if they like it. If not people will generally make do with what they don't have to buy. I went for 2 years with my first Droid experience without buying a single app, I just used add supported or completely free versions, but now I'm much more inclined to support developers when I find something I like and usually but not in all cases, that I can try first.
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Many thanks to all of the inciteful responses. All very inteteresting points.
In a nutshell it appears that I'm basically giving too much for too little. I've withheld going down the adverts route as I'm not a great fan personally - but if that's how the 'many' prefer to go then who am I to disagree!
Does anyone else find it funny that you have to actually annoy Android users into paying for apps?!
Lol - what a world.
Thanks again,
Paul
Strangemoo
pphillips001 said:
Many thanks to all of the inciteful responses. All very inteteresting points.
In a nutshell it appears that I'm basically giving too much for too little. I've withheld going down the adverts route as I'm not a great fan personally - but if that's how the 'many' prefer to go then who am I to disagree!
Does anyone else find it funny that you have to actually annoy Android users into paying for apps?!
Lol - what a world.
Thanks again,
Paul
Strangemoo
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The key to money is think "free = demo," "paid = full featured."
If you do that, and people like it, then you will get more money. I play a game, I like it, it's a demo, that person made a sale. They give it away for free, I'm likely to just use it for free and never even visit their "donation page."
It's like the old saying: Why pay for a cow, when you can get the milk at home for free?
Being not married, that doesn't really apply to me, and I don't pay for cows either way
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Oh yeah... It should probably also be mentioned that when people pay for something, it usually gives them a license (or so they think) to rate it and comment more harshly, so don't be all shocked if ratings go down when you implement a pay-per-app methodology.
pphillips001 said:
Many thanks to all of the inciteful responses. All very inteteresting points.
In a nutshell it appears that I'm basically giving too much for too little. I've withheld going down the adverts route as I'm not a great fan personally - but if that's how the 'many' prefer to go then who am I to disagree!
Does anyone else find it funny that you have to actually annoy Android users into paying for apps?!
Lol - what a world.
Thanks again,
Paul
Strangemoo
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majorpay said:
The key to money is think "free = demo," "paid = full featured."
If you do that, and people like it, then you will get more money. I play a game, I like it, it's a demo, that person made a sale. They give it away for free, I'm likely to just use it for free and never even visit their "donation page."
It's like the old saying: Why pay for a cow, when you can get the milk at home for free?
Being not married, that doesn't really apply to me, and I don't pay for cows either way
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Oh yeah... It should probably also be mentioned that when people pay for something, it usually gives them a license (or so they think) to rate it and comment more harshly, so don't be all shocked if ratings go down when you implement a pay-per-app methodology.
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I think you're both right. If you could offer a demo with built in restrictions and then an unlock key. If you can avoid ads and thus the network access permission, which personally I prefer not to see on a live Wallpaper, that would be even better. Then the user has a decent live wallpaper with no strange permissions (for a wallpaper) but something always there to give an incentive to buy it if one likes the developer's work and or the demo product and want to unlock features. This adds value to the product because I would bet less people really care about donating than they would paying to unlock a full version!
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jontornblom said:
I will give you my objective experience as a random android user.
I don't think you have done anything wrong. I installed both Dino Pop and Zombie Pop and found myself chuckling and having fun.
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I think that it's just something that doesn't fit in the paid app category as much.
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I know what you mean. I figured I'd start off with a couple of live wallpapers to 'test the water'. I have a couple of neat ideas for some original games - but am still unsure it'll be worth the effort on this platform (which is a shame as I love writing for Android).
jontornblom said:
I usually pay for apps that I find useful or have promise of future, as of yet unrevealed, entertainment.
I don't know what the limitations of live wallpaper are, but even a simple game needs a) unpredictable change of scenery
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The paid for versions allows you to change the background to anything in your gallery.
jontornblom said:
b) the need for strategy (to entice the mind to test its abilities)
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Lol - got me on that one! Finger popping is a bit strategy deficient! I suppose I could add more baddies with different traits...
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c) some kind of final challenge (maybe like a boss zombie or something, to give that sense of accomplishment)
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I had tried to keep both Zombie and Dino Pop lightweight on purpose - largely because they are just wallpapers. But point taken.
I am in two minds whether to polish them up and wrap them both into stand-alone apps.
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These are just my super honest thoughts, 100% intended to help out.
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Sincerely appreciated and many, many thanks!
jontornblom said:
On a related note, I used to love this arcade game called strikers 1945 plus. I always thought it would be awesome to have a live wallpaper game like that (but obviously not as in depth..it's wallpaper lol)...again, not sure how difficult something like that would be. Just my two cents.
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I'll have a look for that - it may turn into my next project
Kind regards,
Paul
Strangemoo
All the best! I'll keep an eye out for your new products!
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Not sure if this is the right forum.
I've created my first app, just a simple card game. I'm wondering if I should offer a paid ad-free version.
Right now its free with Admob. About 2500 active installs out of about 9000 total installs. It took about 1mo to get the first third, the 5mo for the second third, and 2.5mo for the last third. I've found that I get alot more new users whenever I have any sort of update to my app. With Ads, I've made about $1400 in about 9.5 months from 2.6M requests. Since its a game with ads, the longer a user plays, the more ads get shown and the more money I make.
If I have a paid version, I get a one time payment and then zero after that. I don't see charging more than a dollar or two. If I charged $1 and everyone that downloaded it bought it, I'd have $1750 and then thats it. If I waited a few months I'll have that much from ads.
It seems like I'm going to make much more just sticking with the ads. I'm new to all of this, am I missing something or does my logic seem sound.
Do an adfree version. Some of us don't like ads may I ask what app you made?
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enricong said:
Not sure if this is the right forum.
I've created my first app, just a simple card game. I'm wondering if I should offer a paid ad-free version.
Right now its free with Admob. About 2500 active installs out of about 9000 total installs. It took about 1mo to get the first third, the 5mo for the second third, and 2.5mo for the last third. I've found that I get alot more new users whenever I have any sort of update to my app. With Ads, I've made about $1400 in about 9.5 months from 2.6M requests. Since its a game with ads, the longer a user plays, the more ads get shown and the more money I make.
If I have a paid version, I get a one time payment and then zero after that. I don't see charging more than a dollar or two. If I charged $1 and everyone that downloaded it bought it, I'd have $1750 and then thats it. If I waited a few months I'll have that much from ads.
It seems like I'm going to make much more just sticking with the ads. I'm new to all of this, am I missing something or does my logic seem sound.
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You're right ads are the way to go. Do you have any methods of sharing the app? That will bring more users and that means more income from ads.
Edit: I offer professional mobile marketing consulting if you're interested.
Questions should be asked in Q&A forums, not Development forums.
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This is the app I made: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rcs.video_poker_trainer_dw
I actually made 3 apps but the code is 99% the same.
I've gotten some useful comments in the reviews but also some very confusing ones (like the last one)
Sharing? The app is on the market. I figure that's the best way to share it.
So far the biggest annoyance has been working with the layouts and getting them to look right on as many phones as possible.
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This is the app I made: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rcs.video_poker_trainer_dw
I actually made 3 apps but the code is 99% the same.
I've gotten some useful comments in the reviews but also some very confusing ones (like the last one)
Sharing? The app is on the market. I figure that's the best way to share it.
So far the biggest annoyance has been working with the layouts and getting them to look right on as many phones as possible.
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Yes sharing. By just putting on the market you are doing passive marketing. By switching to active marketing you can get a higher number of active users and a higher income from ads.
Whenever my automated system finds an Android App Review online it sends an email to the developer telling the link to the review.
Each day I get between 5 - 10 thank you mails from both large app companies and indie developers, which I guess is a good indicator that it's a great tool in order to be able to take advantage of the review in their marketing. (I know how hard it is to be seen with a good app)
The question is, how do I monetize that service?
You have to pardon me if I sound desperate, but I actually am desperate and starting to worry about my ability to provide for my family.
Do you have an idea on how I could either monetize the service, or give it away to someone who can actually afford running it?
There are three main problems with it:
- Donations doesn't work (noone evidently donates anyway, so that went down the drain)
- Advertising, might have worked but there are far too few visitors.
- Most dev's have an invalid email address specified for their account at google play, which makes them not receive the notice from the service,
They can however subscribe for reviews of a certain package name, but how the heck could they when they don't even know the service exists?
I feel so stupid for having these great ideas and realize them, just to later find out that the only thing I've gained is more time away from my kids. I am honestly starting to loose all energy for the creation process of apps, web sites and services, just due to the fact that I can't even reach out enough to make anything out of it. And I can't afford advertising the services/apps/whatever crap I've made. Which even might be an indicator that I should stop trying, but I can't really do that either since I struggle to even afford the food for the month, yeah it's gotten that bad, and I hate sounding this pathetic.
Anyway, the link is in my sig called something like 'Android App Reviews' if you wish to have a look in order to give feedback on my question.
Maybe it's just a bad day 'cause I'm not usually this whiny, but even on a good day, the question stands.
Ah.. whatever. You have a good idea, let me know.
Later
very nice idea, perhaps most of your emails mistakenly get weeded out as SPAM. I have an APP published on Google Play with our company gmail address there, but in more than one ocasion we had people trying to contact us and those emails got to the SPAM folder automaticly by mistake and we never saw them.
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very nice idea, perhaps most of your emails mistakenly get weeded out as SPAM. I have an APP published on Google Play with our company gmail address there, but in more than one ocasion we had people trying to contact us and those emails got to the SPAM folder automaticly by mistake and we never saw them.
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Thanks, actually I was very glad myself when I got an email from my own service once, so yeah I think it's a great idea also.
So yes, one problem is, as you mention that most emails probably ends up marked as spam.
The other problem is money, it's running in a very low priced environment and actually doesn't require much juice to run but I can't afford maintaining it if it doesn't generate enough income to even support itself.
I would consider running it for nothing and I could even spend some personal money just for the satisfaction and appreciation, but given the gravity of the current financial situation in my family I can't do that.
So let's just see what happens, and thanks for taking the time to read.
Cheers
have you tried selling it? For about how much would you be willing to sell it? As i said the idea is pretty awesome and you got it pretty much nailed down. Perhaps with a few tweaks to the search algorithm it could be the next Google for Apps!
have you tried selling it? For about how much would you be willing to sell it?
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- Actually, no I haven't tried selling it yet as I don't have any experience selling these kinds of things, and don't really know where to turn.. So I haven't really thought of for how much I should sell it for,
what do you think something like this could be worth?
Thanks again
Actually i have no idea loool
I would buy it if I had the means.
The value of it probably based on how many views does your site has per day, how many apps does it have categorized, how many it crawls per day... idk.
For example i tried searching it and it seems to have few apps catalogued... my app (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rtt3ch.suecaonline) isn't there.
EDIT: About how much do you spend on it a month? If it's not much and you're willing to give it away because can't afford it I wouldn't mind getting it lol, i think i can keep it alive.
If you want to generate income from your site, you have to run your site like a business. The ideas you have in your first post are too linear, especially for a small website with limited exposure (i'm sure you'll know ). Websites and youtube channels grow in exposure and size exponentially. Your site is still in the growth state of a business life cycle (the slowest, most challenging phase of business), so it's best to get as much exposure as possible, which means expanding.
- Try to create some sort of quasi-partnerships with other sites by sharing content or linking to each other. I've noticed you have some links on the side of your site, but try to get in contact with 'bigger names' out there
- Create a youtube channel and start reviewing apps like that. That way you have another avenue of traffic to your site
- Reviews of products may also be an idea.
Hope this helps It's what I can remember from business studies classes >.<
sup MetalDroid, any news?
I'd go with what SammiSaysHello said, you need to run it like a business. Personally I'd make the homepage look more like a professional a sales page and introduce a subscription fee if you want to use it for more then one app. Or even a one time fee for more then one app. I end up logging onto my developer console several times a day so I'd gladly pay a couple bucks a month to have the reviews sent straight to my inbox.. Just my two cents
Hey!
Sorry for not posting an update, I've been having the mother of all flues on and off for the past several weeks now!
sup MetalDroid, any news?
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Well, actually yes. The associated twitter account is growing, and the number of web page visitors is also increasing. Very slowly but I'm still positive about it. I've also, shockingly, had a few interesting partnership/business proposals drop down in my mailbox, so I'm gonna have a look to see what is offered there..
If you want to generate income from your site, you have to run your site like a business.
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I'd go with what SammiSaysHello said, you need to run it like a business
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You're right, that seems like a logical next step. I might add a low subscription fee if you wish to use for more than one app,
that seems like a very good suggestion, I'll have to wait a couple of days though to see how things turn out from some of the email proposals
I've had.
If you're interested I'll keep you updated on what happens, and I'm very grateful for your input,
Cheers
Wow this guy hates LG.
gizmodo.com/lg-g2-review-a-braindead-hercules-1349343131?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_twitter&utm_source=gizmodo_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
I have the phone and find it quite good IMO.
Not sure why this clown would lash out like this.
Thoughts?
lol link
http://gizmodo.com/lg-g2-review-a-braindead-hercules-1349343131
I couldnt even read the whole thing. This person has to be a tim cook fan.
Apparently we are all masochists
"Who's It For?
People who root their Android phones. Masochists."
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lol link
http://gizmodo.com/lg-g2-review-a-braindead-hercules-1349343131
I couldnt even read the whole thing. This person has to be a tim cook fan.
Apparently we are all masochists
"Who's It For?
People who root their Android phones. Masochists."
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I agree that we are Masochists. Haha.
However, take that review with a grain of salt. It is a review on an Apple Fan Site.
holy balls, and comments won't show until approved by the author. At least it crashed his macbook.
This reviewer must be high. This is my 5th Android device and it is the best one so far. I am an AOKP or AOSP guy, but LG has little features that I find extremely useful.
LG is good with copying, like how they copied the Picture in Picture camera before Samsung released it, or how they copied the floating apps which Samsung dont even use.
Anyways, you cant win a review by everyone, there will always be biased people out there ^^
Btw, does the buttons on the side go white even if you have it set to black in full screen? Or is he just that hateful?
EDIT: Nope, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHqzTxPnPD0 check around 1:10 when he plays Dead Trigger, stays black.
The guy is a hack. I'm not even convinced he used the device for more than five minutes.
He claims that it has "even more useless features than Touchwiz", which isn't even close to being true. And he's apparently too stupid to figure out how to use KnockOn, because I have no issues with it.
His entire rant (I refuse to call it a review) is centered around LG's interface. To be honest, I just don't think he's smart enough to use it because I have no problems with it and actually appreciate some of the features it adds.
One that I really appreciate is the ability to send a video as an MMS (without recording it as one). Record video => Share to messaging => Prompt asks you if you want to trim it because it's too large => Say "okay", then, rather than trim it, just click "done". I twill compress the video to 3gp quality and send. Yes, it's pixelated, but at least you can send it. Most android phones simply tell you that it's too big and refuse to let you send.
LG is the ONLY manufacturer besides Apple who lets you do this currently. It's a small thing, but it makes me happy and I wouldn't give it up.
Its almost hilarious the bias of the comments that are getting approved as well. Clearly he has a bone to pick.
Thanks guys like I said there's too much to like on this phone and some features like the volume and display on the notification bar suck but otherwise this phone is a beast and its the perfect size.
The gizmodo clown was probably in the middle of doing one of those ridiculous alcohol articles that they do every week!
I come from Nexus devices, and that dude is a straight retard. The phone is unusable with this interface? Stick to iPhones , it seems that's all your simple mind can handle.
He has one good point though.. that alarm is pretty crazy lol..
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He has one good point though.. that alarm is pretty crazy lol..
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First thing I changed, but I still love this phone.
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That wake up alarm is one for the Disney crowd or serial killers.......
I could see his point of view in the review.
I looked at the phone and yes, the first thing I do on any phone is install Swiftkey.
I also spend hours and hours getting everything right on the phone and strip away all the stuff that is setup for morons.
I never use the factory email programs and always use Touchdown for work and K9 for home email.
I use WeatherBug Elite for weather widgets and a bunch of other stuff.
I think the phone could be usable, but you will need to spend some time.
If you are looking for a clean out of the box experience, I'd have to agree with Gizmodo, look somewhere else.
On the other hand, if you want a screaming piece of hardware, look no further.
Interesting that my default alarm has no singing whatsoever. Its just music. I changed it to something louder.
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tech_head said:
That wake up alarm is one for the Disney crowd or serial killers.......
I could see his point of view in the review.
I looked at the phone and yes, the first thing I do on any phone is install Swiftkey.
I also spend hours and hours getting everything right on the phone and strip away all the stuff that is setup for morons.
I never use the factory email programs and always use Touchdown for work and K9 for home email.
I use WeatherBug Elite for weather widgets and a bunch of other stuff.
I think the phone could be usable, but you will need to spend some time.
If you are looking for a clean out of the box experience, I'd have to agree with Gizmodo, look somewhere else.
On the other hand, if you want a screaming piece of hardware, look no further.
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It literally takes 5 minutes to set the phone up and get rid of the features you don't want. I have none of the notification bar issues because I stripped them down. Install the Google keyboard and whatever widgets you want. If you are suggesting that the phone isn't usable out of the box, I'm going to question your choice in user names.
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Interesting that my default alarm has no singing whatsoever. Its just music. I changed it to something louder.
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If you are suggesting that the phone isn't usable out of the box, I'm going to question your choice in user names.
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BAZINGA!!
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Doesnt gizmodo praise steve jobs
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Doesnt gizmodo praise steve jobs
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No time for praise. They're too busy conducting a demonic ritual to resurrect him from the grave.
And yeah .. that reviewer is an idiot. My kindergartener could write a more intelligent an unbiased review.
I surely wouldn't recommend not buying this phone to anyone. But.. Nothing he said is that far off. This device is not far from being a masterpiece, but the software does suck. Some of the things he said such as the navigation bar can be changed in the settings, so I'm not completely sure what he's talking about. I also thought the keyboard was junk and their version of Swype was even worse. He didn't even get into the throttling portion, or how the issues with the camera and some shots it floods out in lighter conditions.
I mean you may love the device, I did. But there are many nuances in the software, like the folders opening into little squares that the app titles take up 2 lines. I'm surprised he didn't mention that...
It's a good thing Loki works and we can put vanilla android on it soon, because it really will be an epic device at that point.
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Guys, it's Gizmodo for Christ's sake. The Gawker webring is an unending ****storm of pseudo-journalism for idiots.
Semantics said:
Interesting that my default alarm has no singing whatsoever. Its just music. I changed it to something louder.
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It literally takes 5 minutes to set the phone up and get rid of the features you don't want. I have none of the notification bar issues because I stripped them down. Install the Google keyboard and whatever widgets you want. If you are suggesting that the phone isn't usable out of the box, I'm going to question your choice in user names.
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I don't have an issue. I modify every device I get. My first operation out of the box is unlock or root. Then I start the process. I was talking about those that do not want to setup a home screen, etc. Remember most people that had VCRs had them flashing 12:00 from the time they got them until the thing died.