Recent Apps - change look or sidebar access - Honor 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi there good people of XDA.
Im on EMUI 3.1 B180 with TSF Launcher as home screen.
Is there a way to change look of Recent Apps tab on this configuration ?
No apps like sidebars with recent apps function shows recent apps. All of them states that there is no recent app. In my opinion somehow they can't get access to read them. Same for other apps claiming they change look of this RA tab.
Why i want to do this:
- I have changed DPI and Recent Apps tab got moved to left which looking bad and it's impractical
- It only show 4 last apps on one screen - (impractical again)
Question 2:
Any way possible to edit some files to achive more recent apps on one screen or change look of RA tab?
If there is no one who knows 100% solution then let's start discussion thread with ideas.
Thanks guys

Raven78uk said:
Hi there good people of XDA.
Im on EMUI 3.1 B180 with TSF Launcher as home screen.
Is there a way to change look of Recent Apps tab on this configuration ?
No apps like sidebars with recent apps function shows recent apps. All of them states that there is no recent app. In my opinion somehow they can't get access to read them. Same for other apps claiming they change look of this RA tab.
Why i want to do this:
- I have changed DPI and Recent Apps tab got moved to left which looking bad and it's impractical
- It only show 4 last apps on one screen - (impractical again)
Question 2:
Any way possible to edit some files to achive more recent apps on one screen or change look of RA tab?
If there is no one who knows 100% solution then let's start discussion thread with ideas.
Thanks guys
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I actually came here to find the answer to something similar. I think my issues and yours are related.
I also have the b180 firmware and have noticed that apps do not seem to be receiving app usage data despite me having given them access in "settings>security>apps with usage access".
I'm not sure if this issue is related specifically to the b180 firmware as I have only had the honor 7 (PLK-L01) for about 2 weeks and I updated it to b180 the day I got it.
The reasons why I am getting the impression that apps are not receiving app usage data are as follows:
1. I use an app called omni swipe. It has 3 tabs. One called toolbox which has access to various phone settings such as enabling/disabling wifi, one called favourites where I can pin my favourite apps for quick access and one called recent which is supposed to show my most recently used apps. The recent tab is always blank. I have confirmed that the issue is not with the app itself as the same version of the app doesn't have these issues on my old phone (samsung galaxy a3).
2. Again Omni Swipe also has a feature whereby when notifications are received it displays a little red bubble in the corner of the screen. In omni swipe's settings you can specify what apps you want the bubble to be able to appear over and which you don't. An example would be that I have specified that I don't want the bubble to appear while I am using the YouTube app. However the bubble still appears over YouTube. I believe this is because Omni Swipe is unable to determine when I am using the YouTube app due to not receiving app usage data from the phone
3. Opera Max recently received a feature whereby it can track background data usage on an app by app basis. This works fine on my old phone but on the honor 7, Opera Max is unable to distinguish whether the data is being used in the background or whether it's being used while I am using the app actively. Weirdly it does seem to be able to work out what apps I have been using at least although other apps don't.
4. CCleaner is able to determine what processes are currently running so that you can manually kill them with its task manager feature (I am aware that killing processes on Android is pointless, so I don't actually ever use this feature), however whenever I run an analysis it does not detect any running processes whatsoever.
5. Ultimate rotation control allows me to force screen rotation in any app regardless of whether the app natively supports a particular orientation. It has a per app settings section that allows me to specify the particular orientation for any app on an app by app basis. However the per app settings seem to be ignored. Again I believe that this is because Ultimate Rotation Control is unable to determine when specific apps are running due to not receiving app usage data from the phone.
These are all the specific issues I have noticed so far. All seem to be related to me. I have tested that all these issues are not present in the same versions running on my Samsung Galaxy A3.
The issues I have encountered along with the issues you have already described all seem to have the app usage data problem on common.
Does anyone know of any workarounds?

Squall88uk said:
I actually came here to find the answer to something similar. I think my issues and yours are related.
I also have the b180 firmware and have noticed that apps do not seem to be receiving app usage data despite me having given them access in "settings>security>apps with usage access"......
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Thank You for your answer. That's exactly my thoughts.
I'm still in process of finding a backgate for this problem.
No success yet ;/

Raven78uk said:
Thank You for your answer. That's exactly my thoughts.
I'm still in process of finding a backgate for this problem.
No success yet ;/
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Do you know if the issue was there in the previous version of the firmware to b180? Just wondering if it's just a bug in b180 or in Huawei's implementation of lollipop in general.
I hear that Marshmallow (stable) is being released soon in the UK. Maybe the problem will be fixed in that update anyway. We can only hope.
Let me know if you manage to find a backgate. If I come across anything I'll let you know too. I'm waiting to hear back from Huawei at the moment.

Squall88uk said:
Do you know if the issue was there in the previous version of the firmware to b180? Just wondering if it's just a bug in b180 or in Huawei's implementation of lollipop in general.
I hear that Marshmallow (stable) is being released soon in the UK. Maybe the problem will be fixed in that update anyway. We can only hope.
Let me know if you manage to find a backgate. If I come across anything I'll let you know too. I'm waiting to hear back from Huawei at the moment.
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Yesss :laugh: Found app which works and it's great !!!!
Shows 6 last recent apps. Swipeable from edge of screen. Independent from system recent app which means even if you clear recent apps there, they still exist in app i found Very customizable
Name is 'Swiftly switch' .
PM me if you need 'help' installing

Squall88uk said:
3. Opera Max recently received a feature whereby it can track background data usage on an app by app basis. This works fine on my old phone but on the honor 7, Opera Max is unable to distinguish whether the data is being used in the background or whether it's being used while I am using the app actively. Weirdly it does seem to be able to work out what apps I have been using at least although other apps don't.
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It monitors traffic generated by apps as it passes through the VPN hence it's able to distinguish these, where the rest relies on the usage access API for data usage stats. This is also why in certain cases data usage can differ between what the OS reports and what is displayed in Opera Max.

zamber88 said:
It monitors traffic generated by apps as it passes through the VPN hence it's able to distinguish these, where the rest relies on the usage access API for data usage stats. This is also why in certain cases data usage can differ between what the OS reports and what is displayed in Opera Max.
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So would this be why it is able to work out how much data I have used (based on the traffic that has passed through the VPN) but not able to distinguish whether that data was in the background or not due to no access to usage data?
Also do you work for Opera?? Weirdly enough I won this phone from a competition that was run by Opera over Christmas.

Squall88uk said:
So would this be why it is able to work out how much data I have used (based on the traffic that has passed through the VPN) but not able to distinguish whether that data was in the background or not due to no access to usage data?
Also do you work for Opera?? Weirdly enough I won this phone from a competition that was run by Opera over Christmas.
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Exactly. We need to have usage access to see what app is in the foreground. By that we can mark the rest as in the background and categorize the traffic accordingly. There's a bit of lag in reporting the foreground app (up to 1s, depends on the device, usually around 200ms IIRC) and I'm not sure if we tested this with floating windows yet.
Yes, I work at Opera in a QA Engineer role for Max . I hope you're satisfied with your prize .
If you know your way around ADB you can send me logcats if there are any exceptions thrown due to this issue by Max .
Alternatively you could just wait for the Android MM OTA and see if it fixes the issue.

zamber88 said:
Exactly. We need to have usage access to see what app is in the foreground. By that we can mark the rest as in the background and categorize the traffic accordingly. There's a bit of lag in reporting the foreground app (up to 1s, depends on the device, usually around 200ms IIRC) and I'm not sure if we tested this with floating windows yet.
Yes, I work at Opera in a QA Engineer role for Max . I hope you're satisfied with your prize .
If you know your way around ADB you can send me logcats if there are any exceptions thrown due to this issue by Max .
Alternatively you could just wait for the Android MM OTA and see if it fixes the issue.
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Yeah its a really good phone, just wish Huawei would give me my bootloader unlock code so I can root, but that's a whole other story and topic
I can send you logcats if you want them although I haven't experienced any real issues with Opera Max other than the occasional notification telling me that certain apps have used a lot of background data which I actually used as foreground data but thats not really an issue with the app but rather the app working correctly with the information that is being provided to it by the phone so I can't really fault it for that.
I did report the issue to Honor UK and they said they would submit it as a bug and that hopefully it will be sorted in the Marshmallow update. Just waiting for the update which should be soon hopefully.
Thanks for the clarification anyway. The whole team at opera do a great job with both Opera Max and Opera Browser.

Squall88uk said:
I can send you logcats if you want them although I haven't experienced any real issues with Opera Max other than the occasional notification telling me that certain apps have used a lot of background data which I actually used as foreground data but thats not really an issue with the app but rather the app working correctly with the information that is being provided to it by the phone so I can't really fault it for that.
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That's an interesting edge case we didn't bump into yet. Sanity-checking system APIs in the app can make sense but on the other hand there's no easy way to later test these cases. It's easier to assume that the app is at fault then and just gather feedback from users .
Squall88uk said:
I did report the issue to Honor UK and they said they would submit it as a bug and that hopefully it will be sorted in the Marshmallow update. Just waiting for the update which should be soon hopefully.
Thanks for the clarification anyway. The whole team at opera do a great job with both Opera Max and Opera Browser.
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I'll assume then that the Honor team will tackle this issue then . It's a pity they don't ship with the bootloader unlocked. Having root on devices is essential for comfortable debugging of VPN issues so I feel you .

zamber88 said:
Alternatively you could just wait for the Android MM OTA and see if it fixes the issue.
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zamber88 said:
I'll assume then that the Honor team will tackle this issue then . It's a pity they don't ship with the bootloader unlocked. Having root on devices is essential for comfortable debugging of VPN issues so I feel you .
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I now have an unlocked bootloader, custom recovery and rooted marshmallow installed. It seems so far that any issues that I was having that were related to requiring access to app usage data are all fixed in the marshmallow update. Opera Max is now working how it used to with correct reporting of what data was used in the foreground and what data was used in the background.
All is good in marshmallow land on my Honor 7 now.

Squall88uk said:
I now have an unlocked bootloader, custom recovery and rooted marshmallow installed. It seems so far that any issues that I was having that were related to requiring access to app usage data are all fixed in the marshmallow update. Opera Max is now working how it used to with correct reporting of what data was used in the foreground and what data was used in the background.
All is good in marshmallow land on my Honor 7 now.
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Good to hear that MM works fine for you and that you finally got an unlocked bootloader!

Related

System App which are potential Bloat, safe to Freeze, bcservice, context provider...

Look in the link below to consolidate. Thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/app-potential-bloat-safe-to-freeze-t3161615/post61958829#post61958829
thread pinned..interesting will look tomorrow evening again..will sleep now
Sounds good
Look at the link in the first post to see what I have running.
MementoM said:
I did it's really awesome, I thank you. It's a tad hard to determine exactly what was disabled as you were unable to provided a list and I'm unable to piece together all the posts as to what truly was uninstalled/disabled here is what I have always running at the moment. Any advice?. Is it safe to say everything that's running here and not in your screenshot is safe to disable?.
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Yes, but if you disable the Catch people than I believe your Edge feature will not work. I don't use it but if you do keep it. Also if you don't use the factory email client you can safely disable that as well and not have any email issues if you use other clients.
What carrier are you on? If you reboot and have just those loading on startup you should be near 1.5GB. Now there may be events which trigger apps to run behind the scenes and there are apps to let you see what is running at startup and give you the ability to change their behavior based on specific events, however I'm not sure if those programs really work as advertised for modifying the app behavior. Tmobile users have had all kinds of memory management issues, there are mods you can make to modify the memory management aggressiveness but I have not found a need to make those changes, also with 5.11 it looks like they made it even more aggressive but again on boot up you should be closer to 1-1.5GB free RAM.

What to expect to change if upgrading to Android M

If you are upgrading from Lollipop to Marshmallow, here is a list of things that you will see differently in this update:
Wifi Calling - Allows you to call people through Wi-Fi when a mobile network is not present
Wi-Fi Improvements - Wi-Fi will function easier and more synchronized with the device
Bluetooth Improvements
Google Now MM improvements
New Qualcomm IZat Functionality
Doze Mode
On-Request based app permissions
Do Not Disturb - Blocks all sounds, even alarms if you want to.
Ability to change lock screen clock orientation
Knock Code - You must now have 6 taps to unlock your device instead of 4
Updated QSnap+ App
Updated Music App (now works with Android Wear)
Fingerprint function more stable
If there are more fixes that were in this update, just let me know.
I have found that the MM native fingerprint function is far more consistent and faster. You just have to log in via the alternate method initially after booting up.
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None of this worth it to me to lose root and goto Android M. My V10 seems pretty solid and glitch free right now.
kendive said:
None of this worth it to me to lose root and goto Android M. My V10 seems pretty solid and glitch free right now.
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What he said!
So, Im relatively new to Doze. Is there something specific to set it up? As it stands my battery life went into the crapper with this update.
On a side note, LOVE the fact that theres a unified finger print API. Now I get to use a lot more apps more efficiently.
kendive said:
None of this worth it to me to lose root and goto Android M. My V10 seems pretty solid and glitch free right now.
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you got that right.,I have another phone for Wi-Fi calling, my fingerprint scanner works fine, as does Wi-Fi and Bluetooth
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NetworkingPro said:
So, Im relatively new to Doze. Is there something specific to set it up? As it stands my battery life went into the crapper with this update.
On a side note, LOVE the fact that theres a unified finger print API. Now I get to use a lot more apps more efficiently.
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So the way doze works is that it turns off apps that consistently use a lot of energy. If you don't want a specific app to do this, like Snapchat, go to Settings > Battery > Battery Usage > scroll down to Ignore Optimizations in the Battery Optimization section and then check the ones you want.
As for battery life, factory resetting the phone is a very good option to use. I reccomend to reinstall all of your apps so that the new permissions system will go into effect and you get less of a battery strain.
I dunno about anyone else but so far I think M has made my bluetooth far far worse. I dunno why this phone has a serious problem with streaming audio on bluetooth the same time it is pulling data.
mcbeat257 said:
So the way doze works is that it turns off apps that consistently use a lot of energy. If you don't want a specific app to do this, like Snapchat, go to Settings > Battery > Battery Usage > scroll down to Ignore Optimizations in the Battery Optimization section and then check the ones you want.
As for battery life, factory resetting the phone is a very good option to use. I reccomend to reinstall all of your apps so that the new permissions system will go into effect and you get less of a battery strain.
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So you've seen issues related to upgrades killing battery? And a factory default seems to fix them?
NetworkingPro said:
So you've seen issues related to upgrades killing battery? And a factory default seems to fix them?
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Yes I have actually had the same issue you had. It was super annoying and there were noticeable glitches that happened beforehand. But when I did a factory wipe it just seemed to be all fixed after I did that.

Honor 5x kills my apps

Hello folks,
I'm not getting push notifications on my phone, i use Whatsapp for messaging and calls and it works but when the screen turns off for a long time the app gets killed or something and i don't get messages nor calls through Whatsapp, until i wake up the phone and launch the app. That's when i get all the notifications and missed calls.
Things i've tried:
Changing the phone to performance mode
Protecting the app from closing when screen turns off
Leaving the app open and locked sliding down on the recent apps tab
Reinstalling and updating the app
I don't know what else to do this is driving me crazy. I was planning to stay with the stock Android but all these weird configurations make me consider going with Cyanogenmod if i can't fix it.
Going to CyanogenMod is a good decision. EMUI has problems in handling whatsapp notifications, which they say will be fixed by OS updates.
The problem of killing apps remains in EMUI till now. EMUI says killing apps is good for RAM management. But they should give more idle time for the app before killing it. You could have seen the reviews everywhere that the RAM management is not good in EMUI. Its default behaviour. You cant change it.
(doble post)
vsriram92 said:
Going to CyanogenMod is a good decision. EMUI has problems in handling whatsapp notifications, which they say will be fixed by OS updates.
The problem of killing apps remains in EMUI till now. EMUI says killing apps is good for RAM management. But they should give more idle time for the app before killing it. You could have seen the reviews everywhere that the RAM management is not good in EMUI. Its default behaviour. You cant change it.
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Damn that's pretty bad and should have been fixed by now.
i regret buying this phone if i'm forced to install a custom ROM to make something basic work.
Also the EMUI interface is disgusting so i guess i'll be installing Cyanogenmod anyways. The stock Android interface is much nicer.
Do i just flash the ROM and gapps from my SD card or there's something else i should do? Unlock bootloader or something like that?
Madbezier said:
Damn that's pretty bad and should have been fixed by now.
i regret buying this phone if i'm forced to install a custom ROM to make something basic work.
Also the EMUI interface is disgusting so i guess i'll be installing Cyanogenmod anyways. The stock Android interface is much nicer.
Do i just flash the ROM and gapps from my SD card or there's something else i should do? Unlock bootloader or something like that?
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Start by reading the TWRP thread in the developers section
Custom ROMs, that's all I can say
Madbezier said:
Damn that's pretty bad and should have been fixed by now.
i regret buying this phone if i'm forced to install a custom ROM to make something basic work.
Also the EMUI interface is disgusting so i guess i'll be installing Cyanogenmod anyways. The stock Android interface is much nicer.
Do i just flash the ROM and gapps from my SD card or there's something else i should do? Unlock bootloader or something like that?
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Did u successfully root..and what ROM did u flash? I'm curious to know.
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I am noticing that this phone will randomly just force close an app, like no matter if I am in system settings or in Facebook. I have used phone with less ram that handles process better than EMUI. The sad part is I bought this phone because I wanted a close to MIUI experience, although it is close, it appears to missing the mark in so many ways. I really wish Xiaomi would start selling to USA
AsuraDas said:
I am noticing that this phone will randomly just force close an app, like no matter if I am in system settings or in Facebook. I have used phone with less ram that handles process better than EMUI. The sad part is I bought this phone because I wanted a close to MIUI experience, although it is close, it appears to missing the mark in so many ways. I really wish Xiaomi would start selling to USA
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RAM Management, Yeah EMUI doesn't do that part fine. Hoping so to get improved in future updates.
AsuraDas said:
I am noticing that this phone will randomly just force close an app, like no matter if I am in system settings or in Facebook. I have used phone with less ram that handles process better than EMUI. The sad part is I bought this phone because I wanted a close to MIUI experience, although it is close, it appears to missing the mark in so many ways. I really wish Xiaomi would start selling to USA
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EMUI is just so app unfriendly when it comes to RAM management
I haven't flashed the custom ROM yet, emailed honor US support a month ago to see if they're planning to fix it but they ignore my emails.
I'll end up selling the phone and getting Xiaomi if CM13 gives me problems.
Sorry for the offtopic but is there a way to back up the stock Android in case i need to go back?
You can always adjust the minfree values using several apps.
I think it has nothing to do with RAM, because it kills the app even if there's nothing else running.
Madbezier said:
I think it has nothing to do with RAM, because it kills the app even if there's nothing else running.
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Maybe you enabled "Don't keep activities" in Developer options.
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you can look into this
Settings > Advanced Settings > Battery Manager > Protected Apps
Here you can select all the Apps you want to keep running even after the screen goes off for a long time without auto-killing them
hope this helps you even without switching to CM
or
check this
go to the App Info. of those Apps which you feel they are being killed and click the Battery and then check the Keep Running after screen box
as you find in attachments

Huawei Mate10 Pro - App loading problem

I have many app issues with the current phone!
I have received a major update and I currently run BLA-L29 8.0.0. 127 (C432)
I have app issues especially with apps that are news related!
I tried installing them again, I made factory reset and all possible solutions but the problem is still there!
For example (IMDb, Gazzetta, Sdna, sport24, 90 minutes) apps are launching but when I press to a specific article won't open!
When I force stop them and clear cache sometimes works but it's like 1 out of 20-30 attempts.
I contacted Huawei and they said that the apps don't work because they are not optimised to oreo 8.0 and it's totally an app problem, but I think is more than that!
Keep up the good work guys!
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I have many app issues with the current phone!
I have received a major update and I currently run BLA-L29 8.0.0. 127 (C432)
I have app issues especially with apps that are news related!
I tried installing them again, I made factory reset and all possible solutions but the problem is still there!
For example (IMDb, Gazzetta, Sdna, sport24, 90 minutes) apps are launching but when I press to a specific article won't open!
When I force stop them and clear cache sometimes works but it's like 1 out of 20-30 attempts.
I contacted Huawei and they said that the apps don't work because they are not optimised to oreo 8.0 and it's totally an app problem, but I think is more than that!
Keep up the good work guys!
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I have the same problem as you. A lot of my news apps sometimes work, and sometimes won't open any articles. I can't find any rhyme or reason for it. My Yahoo Mail app has the same problem as well. Sometimes it works fine, and other times it won't display the body of the email.
Found a potential solution in another thread, but I haven't tried it yet. Here is his post.
DNFDD said:
I think I might have solved this issue myself and it might be useful information for others:
In the battery-section of the settings, there is an option to control if an app can auto-start, be started from a different app and is allowed to keep running in the background. Either you allow the phone to control this automatically, or you can do it manually: the latter possibility is the one I turned on as I wanted to have the control over the apps. Apparently, this was a bad choice as it stopped the apps from getting the information from the internet?
After I switched it back to completely automatic, all apps were working normally again. This is something that Huawei should address as I don't believe this should happen .
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Thanks for the update
I had it as well manual and everything was off and this was the reason for the problem!
I just set it to automatic and seems that the problem is fixed!
I will keep you updated the following days!
Thnx ppl
Problem solved
Everything is working fine!
I don't think you need to turn everything to automatic, "Chrome" should be enough as I think those apps use some built-in Browser features from "Chrome". So leaving everything as is (no matter if automatic, manual on or manual off) worked for me as long as "Chrome" was set to automatic or manual on.
Problem solved
You are absolutely right! Only chrome has to be automatic!
Yes Chrome is used instead android web wiew on oreo
I have exactly the same Problem with Amazon App! Any solution?.
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Same here! Chrome on automatic and amazn app works fine!!
GetAlife13 said:
I have many app issues with the current phone!
I have received a major update and I currently run BLA-L29 8.0.0. 127 (C432)
I have app issues especially with apps that are news related!
I tried installing them again, I made factory reset and all possible solutions but the problem is still there!
For example (IMDb, Gazzetta, Sdna, sport24, 90 minutes) apps are launching but when I press to a specific article won't open!
When I force stop them and clear cache sometimes works but it's like 1 out of 20-30 attempts.
I contacted Huawei and they said that the apps don't work because they are not optimised to oreo 8.0 and it's totally an app problem, but I think is more than that!
Keep up the good work guys!
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i'm facing similar problems and many app developers said "Huawei developers have set restriction for the device system"
As we mentioned before you should change the battery settings...
Settings
Battery
Launch
Manage All Automatically {on}
...... Or you just turn Chrome to automatically and see if it works....

Are there any deal breakers in this gorgeous device?

I was waiting to buy the upcoming iPhone (Blasphemy!) but I just love how unique Find X is. It is going to be up for pre-order next week and I need some advice from you users.
- How durable is that 'mechanism'?
- Are you guys able to replace the stock launcher with something like Nova or Ruthless launcher with google now feed?
- Does the surface of the retracting mechanism get covered with dust over time?
- Have any other serious complaints about the phone in general?
Thanks in advance. Will really appreciate your input. Cheers!
prophet558 said:
I was waiting to buy the upcoming iPhone (Blasphemy!) but I just love how unique Find X is. It is going to be up for pre-order next week and I need some advice from you users.
- How durable is that 'mechanism'?
- Are you guys able to replace the stock launcher with something like Nova or Ruthless launcher with google now feed?
- Does the surface of the retracting mechanism get covered with dust over time?
- Have any other serious complaints about the phone in general?
Thanks in advance. Will really appreciate your input. Cheers!
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- How durable is that 'mechanism'?
Seems pretty solid but we won't know for a while!
- Are you guys able to replace the stock launcher with something like Nova or Ruthless launcher with google now feed?
Try looking in the forum, about three posts down in the "Killing apps" thread
- Does the surface of the retracting mechanism get covered with dust over time?
Not so far but, it looks pretty easy to clean the dust away
- Have any other serious complaints about the phone in general?
Power management is a B*&CH. See the same thread about "Killing Apps"
https://forum.xda-developers.com/find-X/help/killing-apps-screen-off-arghh-t3818105
Monty Burns said:
- How durable is that 'mechanism'?
Seems pretty solid but we won't know for a while!
- Are you guys able to replace the stock launcher with something like Nova or Ruthless launcher with google now feed?
Try looking in the forum, about three posts down in the "Killing apps" thread
- Does the surface of the retracting mechanism get covered with dust over time?
Not so far but, it looks pretty easy to clean the dust away
- Have any other serious complaints about the phone in general?
Power management is a B*&CH. See the same thread about "Killing Apps"
https://forum.xda-developers.com/find-X/help/killing-apps-screen-off-arghh-t3818105
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Thanks a lot for the response. I have used ColorOS recently (Oppo Realme 1) and the Background app management was too aggressive.
prophet558 said:
Thanks a lot for the response. I have used ColorOS recently (Oppo Realme 1) and the Background app management was too aggressive.
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Yeah, it's on some sort of power trip (literally, in both senses of the phrase). That said, if you read through the thread i created, following a firmware upgrade yesterday and after a "settling period" things have been almost faultless today. My phone has been faultless and even thrown in a couple of reboots to challenge it and still been OK. My last problem of Gmail being forced to drop to 15 minute syncs instead of Push also seems to have resolved itself.
Now, i'm not sure if this is some sort of OS learning which apps I use, the firmware or just plain luck (or a combo) but, i'm now very happy with the device.
If you want your own launcher, it is entirely possible, as is removing the bloat (i'm running Nova) and there is no need to register with Oppo either. The link to achieve that is also in the thread I linked to.
I have no idea about battery life as when I'm at work it sits in a dock and then when i'm at home, it's also mostly in a dock so, battery life isn't really a concern but, i guess I'll find out this weekend!
prophet558 said:
I was waiting to buy the upcoming iPhone (Blasphemy!) but I just love how unique Find X is. It is going to be up for pre-order next week and I need some advice from you users.
- How durable is that 'mechanism'?
- Are you guys able to replace the stock launcher with something like Nova or Ruthless launcher with google now feed?
- Does the surface of the retracting mechanism get covered with dust over time?
- Have any other serious complaints about the phone in general?
Thanks in advance. Will really appreciate your input. Cheers!
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1: The mechanism feels very durable, and 95% of the time the camera pops up fast. I have encountered 5% of time when the camera would pop up but the camera app takes an additional second or two to load.
2: nope. Unable to use nova launcher unless you into adb and do all types of advanced phone geek thing or something.
3: there's noticeable dust on my camera module but doesn't seem to be a big deal.
The big issue with this phone you should take note is, like many Chinese roms, push notifications are delayed or broken if the app has been closed or in background too long. There is a work around for this -- you have to go to settings and turn battery optimization off AND lock the app in the app overview window. This is of course, not ideal and annoying as hell. Currently I only have crucial "must get notifications on time" apps locked, such as whatsapp, wechat and Gmail. So for the most part I can use the phone fine. But I do miss all other notifications such as airbnb messages, Facebook messages, LinkedIn messages, until I open those apps again. I could lock all of them down too, but I don't want to have like seven apps running in background at all times.
This is a problem with many Chinese version of Chinese phones. I don't know why they think battery optimization so aggressive it kills notifications is a good thing.
prophet558 said:
I was waiting to buy the upcoming iPhone (Blasphemy!) but I just love how unique Find X is. It is going to be up for pre-order next week and I need some advice from you users.
- How durable is that 'mechanism'?
- Are you guys able to replace the stock launcher with something like Nova or Ruthless launcher with google now feed?
- Does the surface of the retracting mechanism get covered with dust over time?
- Have any other serious complaints about the phone in general?
Thanks in advance. Will really appreciate your input. Cheers!
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1) Stock Android provides for incoming notifications to be seamless (automatic by default, individual 3rd party app settings may be different by default, but, can be easily toggled on). Oppo has severe restrictions on this, limiting to 5 user installed apps to start automatically on boot & 5 apps total to be locked in recent memory.
So, a high horsepower phone is basically muzzled, if you can deal with the angst of wondering if you're going to get timely notifications...... Perhaps if you use the stock email & messaging apps, these will likely work, but, I would steer clear of those....
2) No NFC, so, no tap to pay apps will work.
3) No VoLTE, no VoWI-FI
4) No status bar notification icons, no LED notification indicator.
5) If you use T-Mobile Digits & it isn't a top 5 protected app/one of your precious 5 to auto start on boot, it will log you out of the app on reboot & it will not work until you set it up again, resulting in missed messages & phone calls.
6) 3rd party clock apps: Again, if it's not a protected top 5 app, it will not keep proper time, resulting in missed alarms..... The stock clock works, but, it is a bare bones app at best, no snooze adjustment, locked into 5 minutes, SERIOUSLY?
7) Ad Blockers will work, but, intermittently, again, the top 5 protected app thing & even then, Oppo will kill it off at some point, resulting in having to restart the blocking.
8) If you choose to use a 3rd party launcher, you again lose some functionality. I use Chrome & frequently place shortcuts on my desktop from it.
NOT ON THIS PHONE, another swing & a miss....
9) Bluetooth devices:
Generally they work fine,but,if the device has a companion app,prepare for it (the app) to not work properly.
Example(s):
I have a pair of Jabra Elite Active 65t earbuds,pair-up & work fine,but,the companion app will not work,as it requires a plug-in app to fuel it. These various "plug-in" apps are typical & the companion apps work fine elsewhere,but,not on this phone.
Reason being,the "plug-in" app does not have a user interface,so,you cannot make the app a top 5 protected app to gain functionality,it simply won't work at all.
Ditto for smartwatches such as the Samsung line-up, for the same reason,no notifications,worked one day for me & broken the next,before & after the most recent Oppo update. That results in the Samsung smartwatch getting a lobotomy,only able to keep time & nothing more.
10) Package tracking apps:
Again,the top 5 protected thing,no timely updates & even then,mine simply did not refresh automatically,had to be done manually.
I could go on, but, in a nutshell, you're forced to make sacrifices as soon as you start using the phone. If this was a entry level/low storage/low RAM device, that's one thing.
But, it's not, basically a Lamborghini running on two cylinders, that's not what I paid for & why I sold mine 5 days after the most frustrating phone experience I've ever seen....
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Monty Burns said:
Yeah, it's on some sort of power trip (literally, in both senses of the phrase). That said, if you read through the thread i created, following a firmware upgrade yesterday and after a "settling period" things have been almost faultless today. My phone has been faultless and even thrown in a couple of reboots to challenge it and still been OK. My last problem of Gmail being forced to drop to 15 minute syncs instead of Push also seems to have resolved itself.
Now, i'm not sure if this is some sort of OS learning which apps I use, the firmware or just plain luck (or a combo) but, i'm now very happy with the device.
If you want your own launcher, it is entirely possible, as is removing the bloat (i'm running Nova) and there is no need to register with Oppo either. The link to achieve that is also in the thread I linked to.
I have no idea about battery life as when I'm at work it sits in a dock and then when i'm at home, it's also mostly in a dock so, battery life isn't really a concern but, i guess I'll find out this weekend!
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That's very reassuring for me. Are you able to view the screen on time in this device? (Dunno why colorOS hides that).
radioraheem2 said:
1: The mechanism feels very durable, and 95% of the time the camera pops up fast. I have encountered 5% of time when the camera would pop up but the camera app takes an additional second or two to load.
2: nope. Unable to use nova launcher unless you into adb and do all types of advanced phone geek thing or something.
3: there's noticeable dust on my camera module but doesn't seem to be a big deal.
The big issue with this phone you should take note is, like many Chinese roms, push notifications are delayed or broken if the app has been closed or in background too long. There is a work around for this -- you have to go to settings and turn battery optimization off AND lock the app in the app overview window. This is of course, not ideal and annoying as hell. Currently I only have crucial "must get notifications on time" apps locked, such as whatsapp, wechat and Gmail. So for the most part I can use the phone fine. But I do miss all other notifications such as airbnb messages, Facebook messages, LinkedIn messages, until I open those apps again. I could lock all of them down too, but I don't want to have like seven apps running in background at all times.
This is a problem with many Chinese version of Chinese phones. I don't know why they think battery optimization so aggressive it kills notifications is a good thing.
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Thanks for the response. Hope backgeound app management better with the Global ROM.
The international version goes on sale in India and the Philippines today. We should soon get an idea of what the phone is capable of when it isn't hobbled by the oppressive Chinese firmware.
KOLIOSIS said:
1) Stock Android provides for incoming notifications to be seamless (automatic by default, individual 3rd party app settings may be different by default, but, can be easily toggled on). Oppo has severe restrictions on this, limiting to 5 user installed apps to start automatically on boot & 5 apps total to be locked in recent memory.
So, a high horsepower phone is basically muzzled, if you can deal with the angst of wondering if you're going to get timely notifications...... Perhaps if you use the stock email & messaging apps, these will likely work, but, I would steer clear of those....
2) No NFC, so, no tap to pay apps will work.
3) No VoLTE, no VoWI-FI
4) No status bar notification icons, no LED notification indicator.
5) If you use T-Mobile Digits & it isn't a top 5 protected app/one of your precious 5 to auto start on boot, it will log you out of the app on reboot & it will not work until you set it up again, resulting in missed messages & phone calls.
6) 3rd party clock apps: Again, if it's not a protected top 5 app, it will not keep proper time, resulting in missed alarms..... The stock clock works, but, it is a bare bones app at best, no snooze adjustment, locked into 5 minutes, SERIOUSLY?
7) Ad Blockers will work, but, intermittently, again, the top 5 protected app thing & even then, Oppo will kill it off at some point, resulting in having to restart the blocking.
8) If you choose to use a 3rd party launcher, you again lose some functionality. I use Chrome & frequently place shortcuts on my desktop from it.
NOT ON THIS PHONE, another swing & a miss....
9) Bluetooth devices:
Generally they work fine,but,if the device has a companion app,prepare for it (the app) to not work properly.
Example(s):
I have a pair of Jabra Elite Active 65t earbuds,pair-up & work fine,but,the companion app will not work,as it requires a plug-in app to fuel it. These various "plug-in" apps are typical & the companion apps work fine elsewhere,but,not on this phone.
Reason being,the "plug-in" app does not have a user interface,so,you cannot make the app a top 5 protected app to gain functionality,it simply won't work at all.
Ditto for smartwatches such as the Samsung line-up, for the same reason,no notifications,worked one day for me & broken the next,before & after the most recent Oppo update. That results in the Samsung smartwatch getting a lobotomy,only able to keep time & nothing more.
10) Package tracking apps:
Again,the top 5 protected thing,no timely updates & even then,mine simply did not refresh automatically,had to be done manually.
I could go on, but, in a nutshell, you're forced to make sacrifices as soon as you start using the phone. If this was a entry level/low storage/low RAM device, that's one thing.
But, it's not, basically a Lamborghini running on two cylinders, that's not what I paid for & why I sold mine 5 days after the most frustrating phone experience I've ever seen....
Sent from my HUAWEI BKL-L04 using XDA Labs
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Really appreciate the response. That seems a lot of sacrifices which I can make except for the Smartwatch thing. Do you think the Wear OS watches will crippled the same was as the Gear ones? (Despite Wear OS being a single app with no companion apps unlike the Gear)
prophet558 said:
Really appreciate the response. That seems a lot of sacrifices which I can make except for the Smartwatch thing. Do you think the Wear OS watches will crippled the same was as the Gear ones? (Despite Wear OS being a single app with no companion apps unlike the Gear)
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If you don't make it a "Top 5 Protected" app, count on it not syncing properly/automatically.
krabman said:
The international version goes on sale in India and the Philippines today. We should soon get an idea of what the phone is capable of when it isn't hobbled by the oppressive Chinese firmware.
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They have given a tentative delivery date - 5th of August on Flipkart (India).
Screw it I just pre-ordered it (Bordeaux Red). Shipping starts from 4th of August. Hope the phone gets relatively better with the Global Indian ROM. Thank you all for your inputs.
Does it has hi dac like vivo nex ?
rowihel2012 said:
Does it has hi dac like vivo nex ?
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No it doesn't.
KOLIOSIS said:
If you don't make it a "Top 5 Protected" app, count on it not syncing properly/automatically.
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As a Wear OS user (Polar M600) i can absolutely CONFIRM what Koliosis is saying and this is not just limited to Samsung Watches.
That said, my watch has been fine now for 2 days and, even after a reboot, the same apps are still auto-run and remain locked. I actually like this solution now BUT, why the FRACK have they restricted it to only 5 apps!?
Anyway, as an example, my locked and running fine apps are:
Wear OS
The Crypto App (so it's widget runs OK - take note, to run a widget, the PARENT app needs to be locked sometimes)
WhatsApp
Gmail
Google Calendar (again, for it's widget)
Now, for me, this is perfectly OK and I have no need to even want to lock other apps (like Facebook) as i'm not interested however, you need to assess YOUR needs which may be more apps.
edit: Oh, oddly, i've got the Sony Experia clock widget installed and that runs perfectly even without being locked and I've no idea why!
Also, I've got the red and it looks stunning. Easily the best looking phone i've ever owned. You'll be happy with the physical design.
prophet558 said:
They have given a tentative delivery date - 5th of August on Flipkart (India).
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Same here, will share my inputs once I receive the device :fingers-crossed:
Funk Wizard said:
Same here, will share my inputs once I receive the device :fingers-crossed:
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Looking forward to it....
I'd be open to getting the phone again,provided the version you'll be getting won't be locked-down,as far as Auto-Start/RAM/recents/app permissions go.
If you've perused the threads here,you're aware of the limitations the users have with the Chinese version,I sure hope your experience is leaps & bounds better.............. :good:
KOLIOSIS said:
Looking forward to it....
I'd be open to getting the phone again,provided the version you'll be getting won't be locked-down,as far as Auto-Start/RAM/recents/app permissions go.
If you've perused the threads here,you're aware of the limitations the users here have with the Chinese version,I sure hope your experience is leaps & bounds better.............. :good:
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If these restrictions do not exist on a non-Chinese version, I'll be flashing as soon as it is possible and a method is detailed!
KOLIOSIS said:
Looking forward to it....
I'd be open to getting the phone again,provided the version you'll be getting won't be locked-down,as far as Auto-Start/RAM/recents/app permissions go.
If you've perused the threads here,you're aware of the limitations the users have with the Chinese version,I sure hope your experience is leaps & bounds better.............. :good:
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I am positive for a better experience on the Indian version which is already better in terms of bloat and hopefully we can do a workaround for the other issues. I will keep you posted. Currently it's a long wait as the tentative delivery is 5th August so I'll share my inputs after playing with the machine for a couple of days
Many thanks for your inputs so far and the adb workaround for bloat.
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