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Alright so Now that is appears as though the EVO 3D will never attain full Root lets see how big of a deal this really is.
I haven't made up my mind yet...however I am seriously considering it.
The phone in itself is still bad ass and i am pretty sure you can still gain Root and do some minor modifications.
However, the fact that you can not fully customize and flash roms and kernels that fit you the best is a big turn off.
HTC just turned into Apple with the elitist take it or leave it attitude in my opinion.
Not me its the future for most phones i'm not going to stay with an evo forever because of it. Besides eventually someone will figure a way around it if not with the 3d with something else. Look at the ps3 uncrackable supposedly and the xbox 360, psp and so on and so on where there is a will there is a way.
It saddens me that I won't be able to mod my device that I paid for, but I'll still get it, it think. Maybe I'll wait for it to release then get a 4g, instead. We'll see.
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I got a Nexus S 4G off contract just because a Nexus is always worth owning. I was able to attain my upgrade again and was ready to pull the trigger on the 3D and alternate until I found a preference, if ever. Now? Not a chance. Will stick to the Nexus and use my upgrade on either the next Nexus or a next gen WP 7.1 in the fall.
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I'm getting it day one.
Tapa tapa tapa
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Not me its the future for most phones i'm not going to stay with an evo forever because of it. Besides eventually someone will figure a what around it if not with the 3d with something else. Look at the ps3 uncrackable supposedly and the xbox 360, psp and so on and so on where there is a will there is a way.
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Be careful on what you say. That can give false hope and I hate to see people buy this phone expecting that someone will get on it and find themselves like other phone users.....sitting with the exact same phone they bought a year later.
Samsung Galaxy S 2, here I come! Unfortunately, I have a feeling I'll be waiting a while.
I will shed a tear for the EVO 3D on release day, mainly because I wanted the hardware improvements. But I'm not going to put myself in the same boat as the Droid 2 and Droid X which still have no root!
I still plan on getting it day 1 as well, I'm not really sure why so many people think Samsung is the magical catalyst in the equation to stop buying HTC products.
The Galaxy S looked great from afar, and that's pretty much all that it did. What makes anyone think Samsung suddenly got their act together and will be releasing timely, seamless updates for GSII? I'm confused...not to mention all the countless other flaws it has.
I'd much rather own a locked HTC phone than deal with the garbage that came from all angles of the current Galaxy S line.
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I'm still going to get it. I like sprints service and samsung has to prove that they can keep phones up to date. Plus, sprint does not get a whole lot of new phones like the other companies.
My game plan had changed, however. Before this news, I was going to use my upgrade and then trade in my evo. Now, I'll just buy the phone retail, save my evo and upgrade discount. That way, should something better come during quarter four, I have discount options, plus to the ability to sell the 3d and my evo.
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I'm still going to get it. I like sprints service and samsung has to prove that they can keep phones up to date. Plus, sprint does not get a whole lot of new phones like the other companies.
My game plan had changed, however. Before this news, I was going to use my upgrade and then trade in my evo. Now, I'll just buy the phone retail, save my evo and upgrade discount. That way, should something better come during quarter four, I have discount options, plus to the ability to sell the 3d and my evo.
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If you have a discount available but won't use it now for the 3d but use the discount down the line, why not save the money now and pay full retail on something else down the line. What if down the line you decide to keep your 3d and not buy something else.
If you are willing to pay full price for a device, might as well keep your money now and in your pocket instead of Sprints. Don't see your angle on this one.
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The Galaxy S looked great from afar, and that's pretty much all that it did. What makes anyone think Samsung suddenly got their act together and will be releasing timely, seamless updates for GSII? I'm confused...not to mention all the countless other flaws it has.
I'd much rather own a locked HTC phone than deal with the garbage that came from all angles of the current Galaxy S line.
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my thoughts exactly.
I don't know yet. I never really used the Root feature on my Hero, just for the occasional new look every few months. Not too sure that no root will be that big a deal for me. As long as its fast(er than my hero) and works for texting like it should, I'll survive.
Wouldnt matter to me i find all the customize apps on the market already matching my needs. I will probaby worry if i cant upgrade to the next firmware of 2012
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If...cracking it seems a nogo....it'll bring a sweet craigslist price..
Still buying it launch day....wife is always on my ass about flashing new roms anyway...... I will miss custom kernels though
At least I can still play with her Evo
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Still buying it launch day....wife is always on my ass about flashing new roms anyway...... I will miss custom kernels though
At least I can still play with her Evo
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+1 on being harassed by the Mrs. for spending too much time on my phone---especially when I am in recovery/rebooting when she is trying to get a hold of me.
Coming from a Hero on launch day, I am due for some new hardware. Since I am a Sprint Premier customer, I can certainly live with it for a year (assuming it makes it past the 30 day return period). I still plan to get one on launch day and shortly thereafter, be able to install SU and my rooted apps.
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Samsung Galaxy S 2, here I come! Unfortunately, I have a feeling I'll be waiting a while.
I will shed a tear for the EVO 3D on release day, mainly because I wanted the hardware improvements. But I'm not going to put myself in the same boat as the Droid 2 and Droid X which still have no root!
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My cousin got a droid 2 and he's rooted via Z4root. There's just not any ROMs or Kernels/Themes you can flash over it.
as long as it has a partial root so I can use wifi tether like the original unrevoked I'll be a happy camper, though I would love a myn rom on my evo 3d if thats not possible I still wanna use my rooted apps!
The price will deter me more than the fact that it's locked up. If it releases at $300 then I'll spend another $100 and get the Asus transformer and keep my Hero for another year.
Honestly... I was a little worried about 3D support with custom ROMs anyway. I'm sure HTC is doing a lot of stuff to get Android and Sense to work with 3D.
I've had some concerns with security on some of the custom ROMs lately anyways, so I will have no problem going back to stock sense. I actually really like sense... it was just too darn slow on the Hero. I'm sure it will be nice and fast on the Evo 3D. I'm still planning on getting it. But, like I said, if they announce a $300 price for it I'll consider cancelling my pre-order and spending another $100 to get a tablet. Smartphones aren't worth $300 when you can get laptops/tablets for $300-400 nowadays.
So been honestly thinking if JB takes til next yr which is pretty much when the new HTC will come out to get to the EVO this will be my last HTC device, I really love HTC and have been with them since the touch pro. Howeva the build quality has seemed to go up immensely. And yet the software quality has dropped. I can honestly say that I have had progressively more n more trouble out of the phones from the OG EVO up. Not to mention how we have to wait so long to get a update. Especially when that update was known and out on a few devices b4 our were released, then they can't tell us if or when we will get it. I mean really even phones released after ours have been verified to be getting it and yet we wait. I'm sry but I have bought my phones off contract and if I'm spending $850 plus for a device I don't want it to be obsolete the day I get it. Some people will argue that ics is not obsolete. But look how long its been out. And key lime pie is Otw. So we are almost 2 os's behind. And they get to select who gets upgrades and when? Didn't I pay them? If HTC don't pick it up I'm afraid my next phone will be the galaxy s4 anyone else feel this way or not chime in I wanna hear thoughts on this situation!
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So been honestly thinking if JB takes til next yr which is pretty much when the new HTC will come out to get to the EVO this will be my last HTC device, I really love HTC and have been with them since the touch pro. Howeva the build quality has seemed to go up immensely. And yet the software quality has dropped. I can honestly say that I have had progressively more n more trouble out of the phones from the OG EVO up. Not to mention how we have to wait so long to get a update. Especially when that update was known and out on a few devices b4 our were released, then they can't tell us if or when we will get it. I mean really even phones released after ours have been verified to be getting it and yet we wait. I'm sry but I have bought my phones off contract and if I'm spending $850 plus for a device I don't want it to be obsolete the day I get it. Some people will argue that ics is not obsolete. But look how long its been out. And key lime pie is Otw. So we are almost 2 os's behind. And they get to select who gets upgrades and when? Didn't I pay them? If HTC don't pick it up I'm afraid my next phone will be the galaxy s4 anyone else feel this way or not chime in I wanna hear thoughts on this situation!
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I'm honestly not sure this has much to do with HTC. They intend on getting other One X variants JB at some time this month, which could be a positive sign for the EVO LTE, but it all lies in Sprint's hands, ultimately. That's who you should be pointing your finger at.
I agree totally. With HTC's recent earnings miss, I don't see why they can't see their current "support model" isn't working. If it weren't for the dev's here, I'd be even more pissed. HTC needs to embrace the developers as opposed to working against them by not actively releasing updates for a product that they sold me on. I've stuck with HTC devices since my old HTC Mogul but I'm starting to feel the same way. HTC needs to get their **** together or they'll lose a community of people that have helped keep them relevant over the past 5-7 years.
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So been honestly thinking if JB takes til next yr which is pretty much when the new HTC will come out to get to the EVO this will be my last HTC device, I really love HTC and have been with them since the touch pro. Howeva the build quality has seemed to go up immensely. And yet the software quality has dropped. I can honestly say that I have had progressively more n more trouble out of the phones from the OG EVO up. Not to mention how we have to wait so long to get a update. Especially when that update was known and out on a few devices b4 our were released, then they can't tell us if or when we will get it. I mean really even phones released after ours have been verified to be getting it and yet we wait. I'm sry but I have bought my phones off contract and if I'm spending $850 plus for a device I don't want it to be obsolete the day I get it. Some people will argue that ics is not obsolete. But look how long its been out. And key lime pie is Otw. So we are almost 2 os's behind. And they get to select who gets upgrades and when? Didn't I pay them? If HTC don't pick it up I'm afraid my next phone will be the galaxy s4 anyone else feel this way or not chime in I wanna hear thoughts on this situation!
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I'm honestly not sure this has much to do with HTC. They intend on getting other One X variants JB at some time this month, which could be a positive sign for the EVO LTE, but it all lies in Sprint's hands, ultimately. That's who you should be pointing your finger at.
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Everyone says sprint sprint sprint but is it not the manufacturer's that say what device they wanna tweak the os for? Besides if it was sprint that was delaying it why would the s3 already be confirmed to be getting the jelly bean update? HTC says they don't know if they will be updating it. And Idt sprint would hurt their own pockets like that. 2 have 2 flagship phones on the latest os faster and far less problems they would/should be jizzin in their pants for that chance.
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I'm honestly not sure this has much to do with HTC. They intend on getting other One X variants JB at some time this month, which could be a positive sign for the EVO LTE, but it all lies in Sprint's hands, ultimately. That's who you should be pointing your finger at.
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Sprint can't work on getting updates out if HTC hasn't given them anything to work with. I point my finger at both of them. A phone that's behind in updates on a network that's behind can destroy what little patience people have left.
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I agree totally. With HTC's recent earnings miss, I don't see why they can't see their current "support model" isn't working. If it weren't for the dev's here, I'd be even more pissed. HTC needs to embrace the developers as opposed to working against them by not actively releasing updates for a product that they sold me on. I've stuck with HTC devices since my old HTC Mogul but I'm starting to feel the same way. HTC needs to get their **** together or they'll lose a community of people that have helped keep them relevant over the past 5-7 years.
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U hit the nail on the head! Totally agree 1000%
I payed more for my phone than I did my laptop or tablet. Yet they get updates damn near everyday. And if android is open source I should be ableto get the updates on anyphone that runs Android as long as the specs are up to par for free correct. Just like linux. So y do they get to choose what we get so they can make money. I mean we do it here. So y can't they. Lol sry just rantin clearin my chest.
Me and the wife love HTC but we both agreed that even though we dislike the build quality of Samsung it may be our next phone just because things get updated and fixed a lot more frequently. Besides our phones stay deep inside great looking cases so how much does build quality mean to us anyway.
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Sprint can't work on getting updates out if HTC hasn't given them anything to work with. I point my finger at both of them. A phone that's behind in updates on a network that's behind can destroy what little patience people have left.
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The update comes from HTC pending a request from Sprint. If Sprint doesn't request it, it will never come. Once Sprint receives it, they add all of their bloat and send it for testing. After that, you already know what happens.
Either way, I am hoping for an HTC Nexus device based on all these multi-OEM Nexus rumors.
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The update comes from HTC pending a request from Sprint. If Sprint doesn't request it, it will never come. Once Sprint receives it, they add all of their bloat and send it for testing. After that, you already know what happens.
Either way, I am hoping for an HTC Nexus device based on all these multi-OEM Nexus rumors.
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Point taken. Bottom line is that "we" the customer, gets screwed. I would find it hard to believe that HTC and Sprint both "don't know" what people want. HTC makes great phones and the developers help us love them. Developers maximize the potential of our devices but if they're not getting what they need, it's a moot point and I'll probably leave Sprint and HTC altogether when I'm due for an upgrade. I'm sure I'm not the only one either. Patience only goes so far.
Not to mention still can't have caller id tones since last update n they can't fix that. Bs and I don't wanna switch roms cuz something always never works in roms.
have to admit if it wasn't for custom roms and the hard work of devs here I would have tossed this phone by now.
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Having been an android owner for the last three years (and an evo owner for the last 2), I've gotten used to the slower updates. It's always been explained away by saying that first HTC has to produce an update, then Sprint has to tweak the update, before we ever get the OTA. I know it's not a solution to the problem presented in the OP, but has anyone noticed that we have fantastic devs for this phone? The roms, kernels, and tweaks are not only being produced on a daily basis, but are frequently updated and provided with fantastic support. I can live with slow manufacture and provider updates as long we continue to have great devs.
Yes, but in a different way. I will not be purchasing another HTC product ever due to their slow update roll outs as well as their locking of the boot loaders. While they finally relented and let people unlock their bootloaders through their website, their previous and current stance on the issue is unacceptable to me.
You got robbed if you paid $850 for the phone, lol.
Everyone always thinks the grass is greener someplace else. If you're not happy with sprint then go somewhere else.
But just know that the verizon Gnex, a Google phone, didn't get the JB update for 2 months after it was released on GSM phones.
Also I don't think KLP has been released yet.
Naters
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KLP isn't out yet. I never said i was leaving sprint just may leave HTC. for me sprint is the best deal besides pre-paid. if pre-paid got the hottest phones as well. I think the big 3 would be outta biz or would have to lower prices to compete. lol
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Everyone always thinks the grass is greener someplace else. If you're not happy with sprint then go somewhere else.
But just know that the verizon Gnex, a Google phone, didn't get the JB update for 2 months after it was released on GSM phones.
Also I don't think KLP has been released yet.
Naters
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You got robbed if you paid $850 for the phone, lol.
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not really that is what they run off contract. bout $800 plus tax
this phone will probably be the last HTC phone I purchase... unless they change their policy on source and start to release it to dev's faster... it seems like there is a lot more activity for the S3....
If I get another HTC device it will be a nexus. If they dont make a nexus device im not getting it. I love htc build quality, it feels like a real device in my hand, but the lack of updates really turns me off.
Sorry to hear you paid $850 for this mech.. got mine free without upgrading because the 3ds were on backorder when mine broke... and i got that free also...
So I have been thinking about what to new when I can get a new phone which should be able to happen in the next couple months. While I have like the 3D, I think it was a mistake to get something so different. None of the problems are because of the devs which have been great as always and I have been impressed at what has been done with as many problems as they have run into. So to end my monologue, I was hoping to get some advice from people with knowledge.
Lets pretend that every phone company had a phone that was exactly alike. Same specs, same look, same everything. Everything that is except the stuff that makes the companies different. So HTC has Sense on the phone. Samsung has touchwiz Etc. Who would you buy this phone from and why?
Basically trying to find out if there is one company that is easier to build ROMs for or if there is something one company does better than another. I have been on HTC since the Hero days and at one point loved Sense. Now though I feel Android has caught up with Sense in the overall function and feel of the phone. But I am still torn. If I leave Sense, there is no getting to try it out again later. But I also have never really used Touchwiz enough to know if there is something I am missing.
Maybe this turns into nothing of a question and it ends up being stupid that I asked it here. But what I am hoping is that I will learn something new about who actually makes the best phones to root.
I guess I should add. I realize I could possibly go the route of a Nexus but again I would be left with only vanilla Android. No chance to try Sense or something different. Is it worth going the Nexus route for all the ease that it will probably have but with no chance of a different look?
That's where I'm heading.
I'm done with HTC and their lack of support.
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That's where I'm heading.
I'm done with HTC and their lack of support.
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Yeah, after having the Pre before the 3VO, I'm wondering if I should go the Nexus route, too. It's the only thing that seems supported for the length of a contract. That's what gets me the most. If you buy a phone at release date, there should be FULL support (updates, etc) for the length of your contract, or at least have the knowledge of when support is expected to end. So where the M7 is looking promising, will it turn into a Pre or a 3VO? So now I don't know what to with my APR upgrade...
Same here been with HTC since the Hero. I think I am going to part ways though, doesn't seem to me that HTC is doing anything innovative or ground shattering for me to stay with them.
I'm probably going to upgrade to the Galaxy S4 when its released just to try something else.
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I was hanging out for a Galaxy S4 until I heard that the release date had been postponed to interfere with the iphone 5s sales.
I'll get a 200 dollar Taiwanese 5 incher while they're playing gods.
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I was thinking about Samsung but I didn't know if they were any better than HTC at releasing code. The SG4 will be interesting but the Note 2 is also very intriguing.
Nexus seems the safe route but doesn't seem to have the excitement surrounding it.
I'm going to upgrade to the HTC One (M7)
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I'm going to upgrade to the HTC One (M7)
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That's probably what I'll wind up doing. I love Sense. The size of the One is probably the max I want to carry around. A Note is like carrying a tablet in your pocket <insert joke here :laugh: > For some, that's cool, but after TWO digitzer replacements, I gotta be careful. Only other thing on the radar right now, for me, is the Optimus G, and I don't know a thing about its UI...
I don't know what's next for me but unless Sprint drastically upgrades their network in the next couple months then my next phone definitely won't be written Sprint.
Wimax is almost worthless these days. I can't hold a Wimax signal, even sitting at my desk. My city still hasn't even been mentioned for Sprint's LTE, and Sprint's 3G is not even usable around here.
So whatever my next phone turns out to be, it will probably be on T-Mobile this summer.
I'm pretty much done with HTC too. After getting screwed with this locked down Evo 3d that they refuse to support, I'm not buying another HTC phone. I'm either going with Samsung, LG, or Motorola.
There are way too many launchers out there for anyone to be worried about Sense or Touchwiz or whatever.
I have too talked with my parents about carrier switching. Sprint is nice, but... eh. If I stay, GNEX is the only way to go, if I leave, it'll be to T-Mobile and I'll be getting either a Gnex or a Sony Device, both great deving supporters.!
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Just looked for this device on Verizons website and it said "Available Online Only" meaning two things to me. One, they are selling through their stock. Two, something is coming around the corner, soon. Any speculation? I don't see a One in our future. Maybe another DNA variant?
There have been rumors of a "DNA 2," that's about all anyone knows.
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Well I see myself with the DNA for a long while I love it!
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With the moonshine S-OFF coming out, I see the DNA having a pretty long life in the "hardcore" smartphone user scene. It is a top of the line device, with fantastic hardware, and will be competitive for a while still, even with the ONE and speculated "DNA 2" coming out. At least, that is my guess.
EoL of the DNA at this point in time would be a bit weird.... it was release 11/2012 so idk how that would work out. There is already talks about the butterfly 2 and its said to be coming out in third qtr. As soon as that hits the market, we should see our next htc phone on verizon a month after or so.
Verizon may stop selling the device or whatever they choose. But after all the time I've referenced xda and came here I can pretty much guarantee that it is far from the eol on this and many other communities. And I highly doubt HTC will just drop it, I'm sure they saw what happened with Samsung and the s1s when they took forever to update anything.
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It would be a shame if Verizon does this but I would think they would start those corney commercials showing the phone as 99.00 down with 2year agreement or something like that - today is my last day to return I think, so I have a lot to consider
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With the moonshine S-OFF coming out, I see the DNA having a pretty long life in the "hardcore" smartphone user scene. It is a top of the line device, with fantastic hardware, and will be competitive for a while still, even with the ONE and speculated "DNA 2" coming out. At least, that is my guess.
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Signed with the blood of my DNA
I absolutely love the device. I was with Sprint for nine years and finally broke down and switched. We, up until about 3-5 years ago didn't even have a Verizon presence in our state. They still even now only have about 10% of the market here so the LTE here is outstanding. Normally running 15-30 down and the same up. Enough of the history of Verizon in our state. I just picked this phone up several weeks ago when it had that Free coupon on the net. As I said I love the hardware and the software is meh, I would rather be running sense 5 on it, but for now, it is what it is, and with a custom launcher and a few miner tweaks it good for now. I had the very first Evo on Sprint and loved it for the short time I had it. After joining the rooting community though I purchased a Nexus S, followed by a Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 7, Nexus 10, and a GS3 that was given to me. So I am very familiar with rooting devices and running custom everything on them. With my life story here now, my main concern is if they do end of life this phone there will not be any more devices going out so Verizon, HTC, and just the dev community will move on. Its a shame. This is a great phone. I have used the One extensively and there is little difference in the phones in the way that they run and I found it strange that everyone, or many people, in the community were pushing to see the One on Verizon. This is the One in many ways, and in several ways better. I think at this point Verizon is looking to ditch this device because of all the whoopla the One is causing and its sad. I don't plan on ditching this phone anytime in the near future either. Its just sad that this phone is so understated. Is it better than the One, no but awfully close. Is it better than the S4, in my personal opinion after spending a week with it, yes. Its definitely better than a good crop of the phones out now even with its age. I think until we hear of a new device to take its place Verizon would be smart to dump a smidge more money and re-advertise for this device dropping the price point to $150-99 on contract and breathe some life back into this device. When I went to switch over to Verizon, and I knew what I was there to get, the sales person mentioned at least three other devices that were no where near the quality of this device. So not only at the corporate level but the floor level this phone needs some love. I'm thinking its to late at this point but i am still glad I picked it up. I'm still happy with it as it is, although I am excited to get it rooted at some point, as this phone has huge potential. I'm not wanting to be the "glass is half empty" guy its just not looking promising at this point for our beloved DNA :'(
The HTC Thunderbolt got a full Android upgrade (2.3 to 4.0) over a year after Verizon stopped selling it, and the Droid Incredible got a maintainance update a few months back I believe. So even when Verizon stops selling it, it won't stop getting support for a while.
Look at what the rezound has pulled off, and in my opinion it was a great device, but nowhere near as nice as the DNA. EOL is as much a frame of mind as anything else in the development community and userbase. I still help out with rezound development and have some close friends and dev partners active so we spend a lot of sleepless nights working on software for users and tools for developers so they're able to offer more. I moved up to the DNA because I wanted too, but didn't leave the rezound behind. There's a lot of guys like me who tend to do that to help drive the spirit of android, and there's also guys who unlike me are true developers making things happen. The DNA is a really nice device and if the development and custom software minded community wants a device to thrive, it will thrive.
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The first sign they wanted to phase out the DNA was the Free-with-2year promotion.
With the HTC One still completely unannounced on verizon (and all reps denying it vehemently), I'd have to guess that either HTC doesn't like how vzw handled their marketing or verizon made a yet-unannounced sweetheart deal with someone else. My money'd be on Samsung since verizon is really pimping their products.
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The first sign they wanted to phase out the DNA was the Free-with-2year promotion.
With the HTC One still completely unannounced on verizon (and all reps denying it vehemently), I'd have to guess that either HTC doesn't like how vzw handled their marketing or verizon made a yet-unannounced sweetheart deal with someone else. My money'd be on Samsung since verizon is really pimping their products.
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Verizon Wireless: the exclusive carrier of the Galaxy Note 3.
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The first sign they wanted to phase out the DNA was the Free-with-2year promotion.
With the HTC One still completely unannounced on verizon (and all reps denying it vehemently), I'd have to guess that either HTC doesn't like how vzw handled their marketing or verizon made a yet-unannounced sweetheart deal with someone else. My money'd be on Samsung since verizon is really pimping their products.
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Wow. I wonder if that means LATER this summer like August or sooner....?
I see a lot of DNA's coming up for sale soon.. Mine included !! Depends on the retail cost though..
Definitely got to voice my opinion on this. Had the rezound for a year and a half. For how much I used it, I needed an extended battery but overall. Great device and first really high resolution phone. I just got my DNA and love it. The rezound was lagging since the last update.
I think Verizon dropped the ball on the one. They are putting it out almost 5-6 months after its initial release. That's atrocious. As phone connoisseurs we all know something new will be out soon after that anyway.
I'm sticking with my DNA. I don't see the development dying down after moonshine is released. The one has some small upgrades (most are portable thanks to the people here). And screen size downgrade.
I'll wait for the next nice HTC device to upgrade.
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Releasing so late after the other carriers is kind of a stupid move, but honestly if you have vzw and want the one, you're stuck waiting anyways. Or get the gs7 or whatever that Sammy brings out a month after that.
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pio_masaki said:
Releasing so late after the other carriers is kind of a stupid move, but honestly if you have vzw and want the one, you're stuck waiting anyways. Or get the gs7 or whatever that Sammy brings out a month after that.
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I don't see how its stupid. When the iPhone 4 released on Verizon, they had the fixed bezel around it vs atts 4
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th3_g00b said:
I don't see how its stupid. When the iPhone 4 released on Verizon, they had the fixed bezel around it vs atts 4
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I only say its stupid, which is probably not the right word, but its because they're placing a phone out months after its alternate carrier releases, meaning it'll be an older device releasing against newer devices, seems to counter what is normally done, release newer devices against newer devices. I thought I made that point clear, but maybe not, the joke with the gs7 or whatever must not have been clear enough.
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They are starting to crack down now on how OTA's Will be downloaded and used...
http://www.droidevs.com/content.php...are&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
It'll be like the apple system, you have to have a shsh blob unique to your device so you can restore to older firmware, just a guess, the brilliant minds will figure it out somehow. Don't be scared... let's be positive!
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I'm thankful for VipeRUU
Yeah that's a great tool, I've used it twice!
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Well, now instead of uploading the entire file, people can just upload the decrypted image files. Problem solved.
The Thanks button is just to avoid "THANKS" posts in threads. Nothing more. Don't defeat the purpose of why it was introduced.
HTC is really turning me away with the lack of SD card slot, non removable battery, and now this. Yea, I'm sure our talented devs will be able to overcome this obstacle, but when will HTC stop trying to make their devices more and more secure!!?? I had bought nothing but HTC phones for the last 7 years! A few months back though I decided to make my white Evo LTE (Also have a black one that I pre-ordered) a backup phone and purchase a Note 2, since the HTC One didn't impress me and I had new phone fever, which I always catch every 10-14 months. This was a big change for me! I've been using nothing but HTC since my WinMo days, and HTC was the only brand Android phone I've owned!! I was shocked at how easy Samsung is to root. After rooting, I searched for hours to see if there was anything else that I needed to do before flashing. I'm so used to worrying about achieving S-Off that it just seemed to quick and easy to already be done, and I was just certain that I had to be missing something! I had heard that Samsung doesn't lock down their phones like HTC does, but just had to make sure before moving on. Anyway, I honestly expected to really miss HTC and quickly regret my purchase. I have to say though, the Note 2 is by far my favorite Android phone that I've owned! Still though, I'm really hoping to see HTC announce a phone with a mid 5" display, SD card slot, AND a removable battery!! I've read some rumors about upcoming phones, and I've already got my hopes up! I think HTC giving Verizon the J Butterfly (Droid DNA) was a Huge mistake!! HTC has gotta start putting their phones on EVERY carrier! Not only that, but they've gotta give the customers the features that they want! Lastly, put an end to this locking bootloaders and making OTA's more difficult to share/flash!! If the carrier wants to lock the bootloader, then let them do it (like Verizon and AT&T both have done previously)!! HTC has to start becoming more dev friendly though, as that's a big part of the Android community!! Sure, there are users who never flash and have no idea what S-Off even means, so having an unlocked bootloader won't affect them in any way whatsoever anyways. They'll have no clue whether it's locked or not, nor will it matter to them! The users who do modify their phones and do want their bootloader unlocked will be much more likely to buy an HTC phone knowing that it isn't locked down!! Heck, the Droid DNA is having trouble even gaining root access after its last update!! I know a dev, who's roms I(and I'm sure many of you did as well) used to run on my OG Evo and Evo 3D, who has a DNA and is anything but happy with HTC right now!
Anyway, sorry for the rant, I'm just a huge HTC fan and have been for many many years, and I'm just truly disappointed by their approach to the Android community at trying to make their phones less developer and user friendly!!! If they would just give the users what they want then I think we'd see HTC battling Samsung for the #1 spot instead of struggling to keep their head above water like they are now. I would LOVE to see HTC be the top phone manufacturer, but I'm afraid that day won't come unless they start to loosen up their restraints........
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stanglifemike said:
HTC is really turning me away with the lack of SD card slot, non removable battery, and now this. Yea, I'm sure our talented devs will be able to overcome this obstacle, but when will HTC stop trying to make their devices more and more secure!!?? I had bought nothing but HTC phones for the last 7 years! A few months back though I decided to make my white Evo LTE (Also have a black one that I pre-ordered) a backup phone and purchase a Note 2, since the HTC One didn't impress me and I had new phone fever, which I always catch every 10-14 months. This was a big change for me! I've been using nothing but HTC since my WinMo days, and HTC was the only brand Android phone I've owned!! I was shocked at how easy Samsung is to root. After rooting, I searched for hours to see if there was anything else that I needed to do before flashing. I'm so used to worrying about achieving S-Off that it just seemed to quick and easy to already be done, and I was just certain that I had to be missing something! I had heard that Samsung doesn't lock down their phones like HTC does, but just had to make sure before moving on. Anyway, I honestly expected to really miss HTC and quickly regret my purchase. I have to say though, the Note 2 is by far my favorite Android phone that I've owned! Still though, I'm really hoping to see HTC announce a phone with a mid 5" display, SD card slot, AND a removable battery!! I've read some rumors about upcoming phones, and I've already got my hopes up! I think HTC giving Verizon the J Butterfly (Droid DNA) was a Huge mistake!! HTC has gotta start putting their phones on EVERY carrier! Not only that, but they've gotta give the customers the features that they want! Lastly, put an end to this locking bootloaders and making OTA's more difficult to share/flash!! If the carrier wants to lock the bootloader, then let them do it (like Verizon and AT&T both have done previously)!! HTC has to start becoming more dev friendly though, as that's a big part of the Android community!! Sure, there are users who never flash and have no idea what S-Off even means, so having an unlocked bootloader won't affect them in any way whatsoever anyways. They'll have no clue whether it's locked or not, nor will it matter to them! The users who do modify their phones and do want their bootloader unlocked will be much more likely to buy an HTC phone knowing that it isn't locked down!! Heck, the Droid DNA is having trouble even gaining root access after its last update!! I know a dev, who's roms I(and I'm sure many of you did as well) used to run on my OG Evo and Evo 3D, who has a DNA and is anything but happy with HTC right now!
Anyway, sorry for the rant, I'm just a huge HTC fan and have been for many many years, and I'm just truly disappointed by their approach to the Android community at trying to make their phones less developer and user friendly!!! If they would just give the users what they want then I think we'd see HTC battling Samsung for the #1 spot instead of struggling to keep their head above water like they are now. I would LOVE to see HTC be the top phone manufacturer, but I'm afraid that day won't come unless they start to loosen up their restraints........
/End Rant
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too long; didnt read
I switched from the Evo LTE to the GS4 and haven't regretted it for a second. The One looks like a really nice phone, but I've decided that I'm done with HTC for good. The GS4 is ridiculously easy to root and it's so nice not having to mess around with s-off and different hboots and all the other extra crap that comes with HTC phones.
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Ditto here....
maxpower7 said:
I switched from the Evo LTE to the GS4 and haven't regretted it for a second. The One looks like a really nice phone, but I've decided that I'm done with HTC for good. The GS4 is ridiculously easy to root and it's so nice not having to mess around with s-off and different hboots and all the other extra crap that comes with HTC phones.
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Not a Samsung fan-boy by any means, however, after a long relationship with HTC, I decided to try the GS4. Very Happy!
Still have my LTE as a media player.
My main gripe with Samsung and there amoled screens is the blue tint, I cannot stand it. And as much as HTC has been letting me down more and more, I can't deal with how awful the colors are on the Samsung screens.
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twist said:
My main gripe with Samsung and there amoled screens is the blue tint, I cannot stand it. And as much as HTC has been letting me down more and more, I can't deal with how awful the colors are on the Samsung screens.
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The s4 has a color management option that allows you to use more realistic colors and remove the blue tint
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I've had every htc device dating back to the 6700 apache. To the evo lte. Lots in between Wm to android. Looks like this is the end for me. I'm jumping ship on my upgrade in Feb if dev can't get a work around. No SD and no removable battery already left bad feelings. This just is the steam on the pile of poop
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+1
HTC sure knows how to bring the devs to the yard....if you know what I mean...
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I like being able to modify the things I purchase as I please.
I've been happy with HTC (my last two phones), but I will probably move on for my next purchase.