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I recently came across a bunch a rumors that Sony plans to release another flagship phone, Z3, in 2014 6 months after the Z2 is released. So basically the same scenario with the Z1 and Z2.
Is this a wise move from Sony? Wouldn't it just anger customers as they will have just purchased their newest flagship only to be replaced by another 6 month later so that feeling of having the latest Sony phones dies out. By the time one finishes their contract 3 new Sony flagships would have been released, that takes the piss.
I am guessing this would also cause updates to be even slower since they have more models to focus on, or they could just drop the older models which again is sad.
What do you guys think?
I think its important so Sony can become a force to recon with.
In the second half of the year the newer S805 chipset will be out, thus Z3 is a much needed upgrade over Z2 to keep Sony ahead of the competition.
If you look at it, Samsung releases a new flagship every 6 months too, in the form of Galaxy S lineup and Galaxy Note lineup.
Sony has been releasing a flagship or improved variant every six months for years. Count on another this holiday season.
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6 month release cycle is their philosophy for always being able to stay cutting edge and have the latest hardware offerings.
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As long as Sony doesn't skimp on the design and improvements, I think it's great that they release a flagship every 6 months. After all, even if they don't, someone else will release a phone with better specs in that time frame and your phone still won't be top of the line anymore. That's just the way technology works.
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Fadeless said:
I recently came across a bunch a rumors that Sony plans to release another flagship phone, Z3, in 2014 6 months after the Z2 is released. So basically the same scenario with the Z1 and Z2.
Is this a wise move from Sony? Wouldn't it just anger customers as they will have just purchased their newest flagship only to be replaced by another 6 month later so that feeling of having the latest Sony phones dies out. By the time one finishes their contract 3 new Sony flagships would have been released, that takes the piss.
I am guessing this would also cause updates to be even slower since they have more models to focus on, or they could just drop the older models which again is sad.
What do you guys think?
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they said 6months but didn't mention XZ3!
as year policy they won't release any huge improvements cause XZ1 will remain main flagship for this year.
maybe in CES15 they release something really huge.
But we can be sure about expected specs for that;
no more than 3GB RAM
and in my opinion they will clock cpu on 2.5GHz
display won't be more than 5.2" for smartphone but different design is 100%
and other feature will be just tweaks of current features.
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I guess it's good for Sony to do this but it does make people with their phones feel like crap since they get outdated very fast.
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I guess it's good for Sony to do this but it does make people with their phones feel like crap since they get outdated very fast.
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Sony needs to do that to capture as much market as it possibly could.
If it means angering a few... lets use the expression "passionate users", over an outdated phone because they have the need to always get the latest and greates - then so be it. This way they can capture people upgrading their contracts both at the beginning of the year - and at the end.
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Sony needs to do that to capture as much market as it possibly could.
If it means angering a few... lets use the expression "passionate users", over an outdated phone because they have the need to always get the latest and greates - then so be it. This way they can capture people upgrading their contracts both at the beginning of the year - and at the end.
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I totally agree with the whole idea of "making new flagship device every 6 months". However, with their current distribution strategy, that idea is worthless because consumers don't have access to their devices in a timely manner. This bottleneck is the greatest constraint that prevents them from capturing more market share, especially in US.
Whatever happens with the Z3 i hope Sony learn their bloody lesson and announce and release phones within a 4 week window like HTC and Samsung usually do... not this 2-3 month later bull crap.
@Fadeless
I don't know where you have been but sony is releasing a new flagship every 6 months since the year 2011. the reason or one of the reason for it is because the japanese consumer demands it. anyway, it doesn't really matter since most people buy an expensive phone for a good 3 years or more and you should buy what you like and be happy with your purchase regardless of what is coming in the future.
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they said 6months but didn't mention XZ3!
as year policy they won't release any huge improvements cause XZ1 will remain main flagship for this year.
maybe in CES15 they release something really huge.
But we can be sure about expected specs for that;
no more than 3GB RAM
and in my opinion they will clock cpu on 2.5GHz
display won't be more than 5.2" for smartphone but different design is 100%
and other feature will be just tweaks of current features.
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what I can confirmed:
2nd generation Omni Balance design
late Sep, 2014
integrated QI
late 2014 will release Z3 compact（4.6“）
macallen said:
what I can confirmed:
2nd generation Omni Balance design
late Sep, 2014
integrated QI
late 2014 will release Z3 compact（4.6“）
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I think the Z3 willl be com with this Changes :
New design
new software
new futures ( Specs. )
memory 16 or 32
Battery 3500 - 3600
Qulacomm SD 805
2.5 - 2.7 GHz
I think the Z3 willl be com with this Changes :
New design
new software
new futures ( Specs. )
memory 16 or 32 <-------------- This is a Joke, Right? Minimum acceptable 64GB!
Battery 3500 - 3600
Qulacomm SD 805
2.5 - 2.7 GHz
They said that they will release another flagship this year and that they won't stick to a single design. So basically it doesn't necessarily have to be Z3... might be X1 or F1 or any other new series with a different design.
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I think the Z3 willl be com with this Changes :
New design
new software
new futures ( Specs. )
memory 16 or 32 <-------------- This is a Joke, Right? Minimum acceptable 64GB!
Battery 3500 - 3600
Qulacomm SD 805
2.5 - 2.7 GHz
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YeeeeeeeeeeeeeS
I don't no why Sony use ( take 16 GB ) from Samsung !
Must take 32 GB
Will you be upgrading?
most likely to the 5x.. 5.2'' is the perfect size for my hands
no more struggling to search for that one specific song in Google Play while I'm driving
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Will you be upgrading?
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Likely not, they should have left the screen size at 6 inches. I can't see going smaller now.
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Nah, I rather stay 2 years with this so probably the nexus of 2016-17. Depends on how they look ofc. Hopefully by then they will have as well usb 3.1
Wanna see this phone . Anybody have some leak images?
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Wanna see this phone . Anybody have some leak images?
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I got u man :good::good: Here you go!
Any thoughts on it being dual SIM (given the two stickers that on other Huawei phones means two individual IMEIs for each SIM slot)?
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Any thoughts on it being dual SIM (given the two stickers that on other Huawei phones means two individual IMEIs for each SIM slot)?
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I think that it will be very useful for anyone who travels a lot....however I don't have a use for it yet lol
If it's dual 4G SIMs, rather than one being 3G/4G and the other 2G only, that will be even better.
Thus far many devices only offer dual LTE SIM slots on the higher end models (like the Huawei Honor 7, which only has it on the 64GB model).
Can't wait for this device to drop. I currently have the Xiaomi Mi Note Pro, nexus 5 and nexus 6. The 6P will be my new daily driver
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Can't wait for this device to drop. I currently have the Xiaomi Mi Note Pro, nexus 5 and nexus 6. The 6P will be my new daily driver
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Why would you buy the new one? It's rumored to have the same 3gb RAM, smaller battery, smaller screen, same res screen, and a SD810 vs the SD805. I don't get it TBH, the new phone doesn't seem to be an improvement at all.
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Why would you buy the new one? It's rumored to have the same 3gb RAM, smaller battery, smaller screen, same res screen, and a SD810 vs the SD805. I don't get it TBH, the new phone doesn't seem to be an improvement at all.
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The Nexus 6P should be revised and better Nexus 6. Not night and day improvement, but a tighter phone.
- Higher DPI screen
- Rumored larger battery 3,450Mah
- Way better build quality over the Moto Nexus 6
- Nicer camera
- Fingerprint scanner
The Huawei Nexus should be a very nice phone. Possibly one of the best Android phones of 2015.
Any word if the new nexus devices will have encryption turned on by defualt? Hate that with the nexus 6
if the Nexus 6P really looks like the leaked images then i rather buy the Nexus 6 of 2014..
cause those leaked images look ugly as hell to me, but thats my opinion.
i am really undecided about buying the "old" nexus 6 that is very good priced (about 410 euros + 75 moneyback from motorola italy) or wait for the new one that will have probably an higher price.
now i am addicted to 5.5" of my oneplus and don't consider to go back to a smaller screen (nexus 5x i.e.).
the motorola offer ends on 30 september, so maybe won't be time for me to see the new nexus and decide to buy the old one....really hard choice
Staying with my 2014 Nexus6 for now! But will try some hands on once the new ones are available....
I had an N6 and have a G4, and whether I drop big $$ on the Huawei Nexus depends on two things: Storage, and availability. Those that remember how difficult it was to get an N6 when it first came out will know what I mean. If Google **** it up and have very limited amounts at release, then I will say screw it and will keep my other phones for a while, or buy a Z5 premium (since it's lethally close to stock Android - I love Sony's UI; it has a micro SD card too!)
I'm praying for micro SD card compatibility in the 6P, but that seems unlikely given the trend of Nexus devices. If we get 128gb of storage - I'm happy. Micro SD means we'll be able to transfer photos and music easier when we flash ROM's and what not, but I'll happily pay a few dollars extra to get more storage regardless. Hopefully those recent rumours about the 128gb internal storage is true, or we get micro SD card compatibility with 32gb of onboard storage.
IMO - the upcoming Nexus 6P is an upgrade if you're not looking for highly increased performance; after all - the 810 is not much of an upgrade from the 805 for gaming, and the 6P will still have 3 gigs of RAM (albeit, I don't understand how people can need more, I understand wanting it though). Those that use their phones for gaming and what not will not reap the benefits of the 6P so much. However, users like me that enjoy a fluid UI (not that the N6 is not fluid, but the 6P is bound to be a tad bit more fluid) and a fingerprint scanner for added security - it'll be a slight upgrade.
Very true...getting an N6...in white and 64gb at launch was next to impossible... More so here in Canada and it really pissed me off.
Nexus launches have always been bad but last year was the worst... I hope the learned from it.
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Very true...getting an N6...in white and 64gb at launch was next to impossible... More so here in Canada and it really pissed me off.
Nexus launches have always been bad but last year was the worst... I hope the learned from it.
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You guys must have forgotten about the historically bad Nexus 4 release ?
The Nexus 4 made the OnePlus One launch look great LOL.
Nexus 4 was nowhere to be found anywhere until like late Jan / early Feb, when it was released in November. It was pretty much out of stock everywhere for 3 months. And when it did go back on sale, was literally sold out again in 30 seconds.
I would expect the Nexus 6P to be bad again. I bet Google underestimates the demand for this one, and expects most to go with the LG Nexus 5X.
I paid 759$ for my sprint n6 to use on att in mid Oct and it was hard to find now have the g4 and just got the moto x pure edition still have 2 n6s just in case I don't like the pure ed lol
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Hello everyone I have a question that I'd like opinions on if possible. I had a z5 compact and sold it because I wanted to try a nexus 5x. I loved the smoothness of stock Android but the size was just ridiculous for a 5.2" screen. So I gave the phone to my 14yo son who needed a phone after his Iphone 6 was acting up. I really miss the z5c and I'm using an old z3c right now. so I was all set to purchase the US model(even though no fingerprint reader) I didn't think it worked great anyway..but here's the thing, I know that htc, lg, and Samsung are coming within weeks. With my main criteria ease of use with one hand, the lg may be too big right of the bat. My hangup with Samsung is that the s6 I had, had terrible battery life and the lag because of TouchWiz. HTC has me intrigued but not sure about sense UI. So should I wait to see the actual phones when they arrive or is the z5c still a good contender? Part of me wants to just buy the z5c and wait for Marshmallow but part is still getting curious about the s7, even though my hunch is that the same old Samsung problems will be there,, or the m10 to see what it has going.. You know there is something to be said for having the latest hardware and software. What do you think?
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stay with z3c and wait for snapdragons 820 devices
I think you should wait for a future compact phone.
The Z3C has solid battery life and performance. 720p screen and small, like the Z5.
Since the Z3C uses x86 Android and the Z5 uses x64 Android, you'll probably have more free RAM because both devices have 2GB of RAM. (Same happened between Nexus 5 and Nexus 5X).
My case: the best scenario for me is a Nexus device with [Moto_X/Z3C/Z5C/iPhone] size/resolution. The last one was the Galaxy Nexus (because Nexus 4 and Nexus 5 were too width for my hand).
I didn't buy a Z3C (I'm coming from a Nexus 5) because the price was near the Z5 Compact..It was like...400€ vs 550€ at that time.
If the 6.0 serving us well, then Z5c still a recommended choice but who knows.... we're still waiting......
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If the 6.0 serving us well, then Z5c still a recommended choice but who knows.... we're still waiting......
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Yes. Ideally it would be an easier decision if 6.0 were indeed out.. But...
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In my case, Marshmallow will decide if I keep that Z5 I bought in October and is currently gathering dust... or if I sell it and buy a different brand.
The current firmware (Lollipop) is awful. My reccomendation: If Sony can get its sh*t together and release a proper 6.0 firmware , the Z5c is probably a good choice (price should drop when the Z6c is out)... but if Sony's iteration of Marshmallow firmware is as bad as Lollipop is on the Z5, STAY AWAY from Sony.
Back in October, I had to choose between a Z5, a Moto X Pure and a Nexus 6P. I finally got the Z5, and I've regretted that choice every single day since. I don't blame the phone though (hardware), but I blame the firmware quality and Sony who doesn't seem to care at all (Certains bugs were known and reported back in October. They're still present. That says a lot)
Wait for Marshmallow... then make a choice
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Yes. Ideally it would be an easier decision if 6.0 were indeed out.. But...
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It must be better, I didn't see one Marshmallow which is worse than Lollipop but I have no idea how great of MM on our Z5c. Since the Z5c still worth some money, if MM turn out not reach my expectation probably I will sell it out.
Overall 6.0 is good at battery and improved memory management, pretty sure issues like lagging and battery draining been fixed. The only problem is the camera.
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Hello everyone I have a question that I'd like opinions on if possible. I had a z5 compact and sold it because I wanted to try a nexus 5x. I loved the smoothness of stock Android but the size was just ridiculous for a 5.2" screen. So I gave the phone to my 14yo son who needed a phone after his Iphone 6 was acting up. I really miss the z5c and I'm using an old z3c right now. so I was all set to purchase the US model(even though no fingerprint reader) I didn't think it worked great anyway..but here's the thing, I know that htc, lg, and Samsung are coming within weeks. With my main criteria ease of use with one hand, the lg may be too big right of the bat. My hangup with Samsung is that the s6 I had, had terrible battery life and the lag because of TouchWiz. HTC has me intrigued but not sure about sense UI. So should I wait to see the actual phones when they arrive or is the z5c still a good contender? Part of me wants to just buy the z5c and wait for Marshmallow but part is still getting curious about the s7, even though my hunch is that the same old Samsung problems will be there,, or the m10 to see what it has going.. You know there is something to be said for having the latest hardware and software. What do you think?
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There are very very few phones that can provide both one-hand-operating ability (or portability) and the real experience of a flagship if I don't consider Sony's compact phones. I may think that iphone 5s can do, but its battery life just sucked.
Well, you can take a look at z3c, that is able to flash to CyanogenMod and then get mostly the same experience with stock Android or even better, and as well as better battery life than z5c
I'm actually using the z3c now. There are things about the build quality that I like better in the z5c though. I don't flash or rom because.. Well I just don't know how and I don't think I really want to. Apple is coming out with with a 4" updated 5s on the 15th of March so this is yet another option but it IS an iPhone lol. Btw, thanks for the replies guys. Very helpful
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can anyone offer opinions or advice?
im reading there is no sd card option, does the dual sim tray not support it?
42o247 said:
can anyone offer opinions or advice?
im reading there is no sd card option, does the dual sim tray not support it?
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No SD card but the phone is very very good for this price
venezolano69 said:
No SD card but the phone is very very good for this price
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thanks
42o247 said:
can anyone offer opinions or advice?
im reading there is no sd card option, does the dual sim tray not support it?
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I did not use reminders note 3 pro but what do u you lack on this phone. Le 2 max has nut 3.5 mm audio jack, no SD card slot. In my opinion it would be only cpu upgrade.
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The Le Max 2 has more RAM, a much faster SoC, better camera, better display. For $250 it's a no brainer, and it's gonna be a massive upgrade over the Redmi Note 3 Pro.
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The Le Max 2 has more RAM, a much faster SoC, better camera, better display. For $250 it's a no brainer, and it's gonna be a massive upgrade over the Redmi Note 3 Pro.
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Plus quickcharge 3.0, faster UFS2.0 storage and faster DDR4 RAM. Arguably better build too.
im think about getting the 6gb model when it drops below $$300
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im think about getting the 6gb model when it drops below $$300
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Honestly don't think the extra RAM will make any difference. Never come close to not having enough RAM with 4GB. But it's worth the extra spend just to get 64GB storage instead of 32GB.
People keep talking about the lack of 3.5 mm. The phone comes with a USB-C to 3.5mm adapter and it outputs great sound, so what is the issue?
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Honestly don't think the extra RAM will make any difference. Never come close to not having enough RAM with 4GB. But it's worth the extra spend just to get 64GB storage instead of 32GB.
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Fully agreed. 4GB will be enough even after 1 year from now, but 32GB will not be if you store videos/music on the phone. 4GB/64GB is the best option in my opinion, regardless of brand/phone.
And if you are willing to wait enough, maybe you can get Pro3 for this amount. The 0.2" for the smaller screen make it much easier to handle (I've had 1s before Le Max2), the build quality seems better as per the reviews and the gold (closer to true gold) color is easier to get, same as the rose gold for the Le Max2. When I bought it (a month after release), the grey option was quite hard to find, and a few months later, the price dropped to ~250$ while I've paid 400$ for it.
I upgraded from Redmi Note 3 Pro to Le Max 2. I agree with most of what others wrote.
Le Max 2 is such a high quality device. Got 4Gb Ram version and am so happy with my decision. Using CN stock rom and it works so good that I don't have any intention to flash custom Roms or enabling root access. It's that good of a device for my needs. In all aspects and functions I use daily.
Hope I helped. Cheers
I would not swap. Simply because of software. I am really angry at myself for jumping the gun on this phone really early without knowing how the software will be like. the official firmware lacks and all custom firmware doesnt support all of the nice hardware the phone has.
If I could decide today, I would not buy it again.
Would like to know what the issues are that people have with the eui software. Almost every reviewer seems to slate it without giving any concrete examples of what they find so wrong with it other than "There's no app drawer" or "It has a useless live TV button" or "The quick settings have been moved to the multitasking tray at the bottom". Well, the first two are just related to the stock launcher. If you don't like that, it takes about three seconds to install a launcher more to your liking. Not an issue worth complaining about. As for the quick settings being in a different place, frankly who gives a damn. It takes a day or two to get used to and then you can get on with using it pretty much exactly the same as ever.
I also don't understand why people complain. The software is mature an everything works stable every day of use 24/7.
I respect those that prefer different ROMs and yet coming from other phones - Nubia z7 mini, Redmi Note 3 Pro - I got tired of flashing, modding and meddling with my phone.
As it is right now - LeMax 2 is the best phone for the money. All those worldwide working band frequencies, amazing display, ultra fast storage, memory and CPU/GPU, stellar sound quality and two satisfactory cameras.
If you want to throw money for a device that will perform mostly the same functions for more money - then go away and do it. This is a Smartphone and its primary function is to perform phonecalls so every other function you get should be considered a bonus.
Buy more expensive brands and pay for their marketing campaigns included in the price. All top brand phones cost around 160 USD to mass produce. Why pay more for a thing that will become "old" in 6 months or less?
I bought it to do phonecalls and the hardware and software performance is excellent. No letdowns whatsoever.
Need a camera - buy a dedicated one, need better software - build your own ROM etc.
OP asked if this would be a good trade from a lower tier device and it definitely would be a step up in every way.
I know as I sold RMN3 Pro to get Le X2.
Hello,
I've seen the 64GB version going for cheap and I was wondering if it's still a good buy.
The most important item to me is the camera, I've read that there's still bugs with Nougat roms, have those been fixed? Decent pictures and good video recording are important to me, even if it means staying on 6.0.
I can live with a subpar battery life compared to other phones, I use the phone for music and camera mostly.
I've heard issues of quality control, is this true?
nature boy said:
Hello,
I've seen the 64GB version going for cheap and I was wondering if it's still a good buy.
The most important item to me is the camera, I've read that there's still bugs with Nougat roms, have those been fixed? Decent pictures and good video recording are important to me, even if it means staying on 6.0.
I can live with a subpar battery life compared to other phones, I use the phone for music and camera mostly.
I've heard issues of quality control, is this true?
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If you need good camera buy separate camera or Samsung Note 8.
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in my opinion, this mobile is really worth, it has a balance of features. music with (Dolby Atoms + CDLA) are great, the camera is nice but not perfect as new Samsung mobile, the battery is good. performance is great.
If you live in Europe, try to avoid X829 as that does not have B20 support, so most probably you'll not be able to get 4G. All the phones are the same almost X820 X821 X822 X829, only thing is B20 for the latter. They are almost unbrickable and looks like development is still going. Fingerprint sensor is a hit or miss for some, for me it's ok (not great) and it has been so for the past 16 months.
Although the company is dead, there are still the custom ROMs... But that means no more official support.
I remember when I bought it that alternatives were Axon 7, Zuk Z2, Mi5... But I ended up with LeMax2 and it's not a bad decision.
Conclusion: it's still worth buying if you're on a tight budget, otherwise look for something with SD835.
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If you live in Europe, try to avoid X829 as that does not have B20 support, so most probably you'll not be able to get 4G. All the phones are the same almost X820 X821 X822 X829, only thing is B20 for the latter. They are almost unbrickable and looks like development is still going. Fingerprint sensor is a hit or miss for some, for me it's ok (not great) and it has been so for the past 16 months.
Although the company is dead, there are still the custom ROMs... But that means no more official support.
I remember when I bought it that alternatives were Axon 7, Zuk Z2, Mi5... But I ended up with LeMax2 and it's not a bad decision.
Conclusion: it's still worth buying if you're on a tight budget, otherwise look for something with SD835.
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Using my X829 here in europe without any problems . 4G all the time full signal. A friend has the X820 and we don't have any difference in 4G signal
In the UK the O2 network uses B20, so no 4G. The Three network uses B3 & B20, so some 4G.
it depends on where you are living. no b20 doesn't mean you have no 4G at all, just not on that frequency. you can google that.
is it worth buying? in general yes, it's all in all on par with samsung s7. but... there are quite a few devices which have hardware failures out of the box or after a short time. here is what i gathered: dead fingerprint sensor, "screen flickering" from time to time, polarizer damage on display, screen has stripes, hardware failure where the phone can be flashed but wont boot (seen on x829 only), wifi and bt not working after short time (x829), camera focus stuck, ir sensor unresponsive (rare), touch screen unresposive in some areas, dead pixel on display.
if it works, it's still a decent phone for cheap. also spare parts are very cheap. of course, we wont see any official os update, thats a pity but there are aosp roms in active development.
if you buy it, i would recommend to either buy it from a vendor with good return policy or buy a used one and ask the seller if everything is 100% working. under this conditions, i would buy it again. i still love it, have 2 of them.
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4G work here in Spain, I have 829
I have no problems with camera on lineageos. I don't know about original ROM. Never used it. I don't understand what is the problem with it. The camera is NOT as good as my Samsung NX300 systems camera. But that was probably to be expected When I use max2 camera, I can see the OIS function doing it's thing and it focuses fine and takes sharp pictures.
I have a friend who told me the same thing about the camera that he heard camera is not good. He apparently watched some YouTube videos. He is also very very picky. But I have max2 with lineage and he came to my place and compared my camera photos and video with his iPhone 7 and then decided buy max2 (and bought it). (We didn't test the camera with original OS, but I asked him and he will test it)
With another iPhone 7 user we compared sharpness of photos and they seemed equal.
So, I guess if iPhone 7 camera is good enough for you, you should be fine.
Thanks to all for the replies.
I'm looking at the Le Max 2 because I've been in the Mediatek SoC world for the last 5 years and I've grown, despite the good efforts of a few developers, tired of the lack of software updates for the Mediatek devices, so I've decided to jump on the Qualcomm ship. Not willing to spend more than 250 euros on a device, and options are very limited: either the Max 2, a Redmi Note 4, Mi 5/Mi5s (a bit harder to find and more expensive) or wait and see what the Redmi Note 5 looks like when it comes out. The Max 2 looks great for what you're paying. High-end SoC, even in 2017, very good camera, community development, for under 200 euros.
I've noticed the lack of band 20, but I'm not a heavy data user, I think it's something that it's nice to have, but all long as I'm able to make calls in 2g or 3g, I'm happy.
I've also noticed the camera quality and it's a step up from Mediatek, very detailed images, plus there's camera2 api which Mediatek don't have. Also the hacked google camera might come in handy as well. At first I thought it wasn't going to be good because the sensor is a bit old, but no the pictures I've seen actually look pretty good. Plus the microphone is a bit step up for video recording.
Again, some compromises have to be made, ideally it would've a headphone jack and band 20, but it's budget-priced phone, I'm okay with those compromises.
Major concern is just the quality control, some people have no complaints others have horror stories about Le Eco. But it seems to be a minority.
Again, thanks to all who replied.
nature boy said:
Thanks to all for the replies.
Not willing to spend more than 250 euros on a device, and options are very limited: either the Max 2, a Redmi Note 4, Mi 5/Mi5s (a bit harder to find and more expensive) or wait and see what the Redmi Note 5 looks like when it comes out. The Max 2 looks great for what you're paying. High-end SoC, even in 2017, very good camera, community development, for under 200 euros.
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Why not buy the LeEco Le Pro 3? It's on sale for just €170.14 (using coupon code '11bgx727') https://www.banggood.com/LeTV-Leeco...on-821-Quad-core-4G-Smartphone-p-1185176.html
You get official Paranoid Android support(!!) and flagship performance (SD821, 64gb UFS 2.0, 4gb ram, 4070mAh battery) at a ridiculously low price. Bear in mind this is the US version (x727). For more information, check out the LeEco Pro 3 forum here at XDA https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3.
Palm Trees said:
Why not buy the LeEco Le Pro 3? It's on sale for just €170.14 (using coupon code '11bgx727') https://www.banggood.com/LeTV-Leeco...on-821-Quad-core-4G-Smartphone-p-1185176.html
You get official Paranoid Android support(!!) and flagship performance (SD821, 64gb UFS 2.0, 4gb ram, 4070mAh battery) at a ridiculously low price. Bear in mind this is the US version (x727). For more information, check out the LeEco Pro 3 forum here at XDA https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3.
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You also get mediocre screen & camera
popoyaya said:
You also get mediocre screen & camera
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While that may be the case, you'll still be hard pressed to find anything at €170.14 with those specs
It all comes down to personal preference. My Le Max 2 shipped with the 'black spot in the camera lens' issue and is currently being repaired under the warranty. That being said, I very much enjoy the phone.