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What happens is that just bought a LCD 18.5 android and passes it as the purchase of second-hand installed I android made by the same ducotech company and is highly restricted to the extent that I can not install app do not even like walking mode recovery but what if you can is to enter uboot way, but still shows like flashtools or livesuit not serve me because I find no rom the web
Model DT185-ACA-720
Baseband Version 1.5rc5
Kernel Version 3.0.8+
Android version 4.1.1
I'm looking for the same thing, I dumpster dive and I found this same awesome touchscreen display running Android. I haven't had any luck installing any apps, and the only thing I can do is go through the very limited setting menu. Any help would be awesome
Have you guys had any luck with this? The unit doesn't even recognize apk files, much less give me the option to install them.
It looks like some other people have found Amiibo kiosks and want to hack them. I've got one too. The information posted in the OP is what I know so far. It would be cool to be able to install some other apps or even get a custom version of Android running on these things. I'm sure other people are looking for information on them. Since the Nintendo Switch was released, these things are in the wild either through dumpster diving or knowing people at the retail stores. They could make for a very cool game room project if someone can provide a little information on the http://www.ducotech.com/ displays.
The only thing I was actually able to do was make it play movies. But for some reason it restarts after a few minutes, as if it has an auto restart set to a specific time.
How were you able to make it do that? I can't even get it to do that.
MichaelSnr said:
The only thing I was actually able to do was make it play movies. But for some reason it restarts after a few minutes, as if it has an auto restart set to a specific time.
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A HINT
okay, just got one of these from my store. the Nintendo rep as well as my LP allowed my to take it so im super pumped. THERE IS GOOD NEWS. I found this operating manual and it explains that the OS is 4.1 and its a 3 tier OS so we need access to the admin level which will allow us to use the system as a tablet!!!!
I'm not alloweed to post links yet :[
https:// fccid.io/document.php?id=2252992
so just delete the spaces between // and f
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How were you able to make it do that? I can't even get it to do that.
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Trial and error lol I don't remember the exact thing I did, but I know I made it happen my using the menu and navigation buttons located on the back of the panel. I also had an sd card inserted, loaded with a movie and somehow it worked. But like I said, it would only play for a little bit and then the whole thing would restart and go back to the main menu
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okay, just got one of these from my store. the Nintendo rep as well as my LP allowed my to take it so im super pumped. THERE IS GOOD NEWS. I found this operating manual and it explains that the OS is 4.1 and its a 3 tier OS so we need access to the admin level which will allow us to use the system as a tablet!!!!
I'm not alloweed to post links yet :[
https:// fccid.io/document.php?id=2252992
so just delete the spaces between // and f
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So it seems as if, for full functionality, we need the security dongle. I wonder if this can be bypassed in any way.
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Trial and error lol I don't remember the exact thing I did, but I know I made it happen my using the menu and navigation buttons located on the back of the panel. I also had an sd card inserted, loaded with a movie and somehow it worked. But like I said, it would only play for a little bit and then the whole thing would restart and go back to the main menu
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So it seems as if, for full functionality, we need the security dongle. I wonder if this can be bypassed in any way.
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I would even be willing to purchase the security dongle, if I could find it. I plan to use this display for a non-profit organization that raises money for other charities. We want to use it as digital signage.
locuteus said:
I would even be willing to purchase the security dongle, if I could find it. I plan to use this display for a non-profit organization that raises money for other charities. We want to use it as digital signage.
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Good luck finding one, you would need to find someone who works for the company that provides the displays. And I'm sure it wouldn't be cheap either. It's like selling someone's codes for their bank account. If a security dongle got out and was duplicated, that could be harmful for their business.
I found some workarounds and posted them here here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/commercial-grade-android-tablet-issues-t3594279
Sorry if I breaking forum rules but I can't post on "Android Pay" thread. It says I haven't entered image verification????
Anyway....
Have Some BAD NEWS!!! on this subject guys.
Have been emailing customer services over the last few weeks, to try to resolve the problem that is Android Pay. Had an email back at the beginning of the month saying and I quote
"Hello friend,
We haven't got answers from our technician.They are still working on it.Pls wait for more days.
Best Regards,
Lynn
Team Elephone"
Been on Holiday and haven't had time to chase it up until lately. Not some days, but 3 weeks have passed and 2 software updates. I emailed customer services again for an update as I hadn't heard anything. Again got an email from Lynn and here is her email response
"Hello friend,
Sorry to tellyou that the problem can't be solved so far.
P9000 doesn't support Android Pay.
Best regards,
Lynn
Team Elephone"
No resolution, so its up to you guys now to continue to spread the word for Elephone's customers services and technical support as it's useless to me. I will sell it and get something else that works fully. I bought this device with good will. As it was one of the few devices with NFC around that price range. Stupidly I thought Android Pay would just work!!! Clearly not. Lesson learnt!!!
This is the same response I posted on the Elephone forum BTW
It's not up to Elephone to make it work, it's up to Google.
They need to have a signed, certified, and approved by banks OS to make it work.
So basically Android Pay will only work on Nexus, HTC, Samsung and LG phones. All major manufacturers. It doesn't even work on OnePlus phones, as it runs Cyanogenmod.
Also, your phone has to have a locked bootloader, stock recovery and has to be unrooted for AndroidPay to work.
It's a ridiculous requirement that makes 80% of Android phones not compatible. Read the comments on Google Play, you will see the disappointment.
Google says they will try to negotiate with the banks to require fewer security measurements, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
Again. Not Elephone's fault. Not up to them.
Nonsense!!!!! OnePlus 3 comes with Android Pay pre-installed. So an uninformed thing to say. My handset has a locked bootloader, stock recovery and is unrooted. It also works with various banking apps So YES!!! it is down to Elephone to sort the certification out. This is the response I got from Google themselves:-
"Hi , Unfortunately, the Elephone P9000 is running test-keys that were not registered with Android's Compatibility Test Suite. Until the manufacturer resolves this, all users on Elephone P9000 devices will be unable to use Android Pay. Please feel free to contact the manufacturer to ask about their plans for enabling you to get setup.
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It's not up to Elephone to make it work, it's up to Google.
They need to have a signed, certified, and approved by banks OS to make it work.
So basically Android Pay will only work on Nexus, HTC, Samsung and LG phones. All major manufacturers. It doesn't even work on OnePlus phones, as it runs Cyanogenmod.
Also, your phone has to have a locked bootloader, stock recovery and has to be unrooted for AndroidPay to work.
It's a ridiculous requirement that makes 80% of Android phones not compatible. Read the comments on Google Play, you will see the disappointment.
Google says they will try to negotiate with the banks to require fewer security measurements, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
Again. Not Elephone's fault. Not up to them.
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OnePlus 3, maybe. Not the older ones though. I can literally post screenshots of users complaining.
The OnePlus 3 is running OxygenOS. The older ones Cyanogenmod, which, I do not think will be supported. Ever.
Sooo I'm not the one who is uninformed. (A billion exclamation marks)
Lastly, what's the point being on XDA-Developers if you have a locked bootloader?
Google Wallet used to be much more open, all you needed was a device with an NFC.
Now you need to adhere to some ridiculous security measurements...
Elephone is running a modified version of Android. I don't think they will ever get the "test-keys" registered.
You are both ridiculously misinformed on the matter.
Elephone needs to switch from signing their ROM with test-keys to signing it with release-keys. If you want to know the difference between the two then please search.
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OnePlus 3, maybe. Not the older ones though. I can literally post screenshots of users complaining.
The OnePlus 3 is running OxygenOS. The older ones Cyanogenmod, which, I do not think will be supported. Ever.
Sooo I'm not the one who is uninformed. (A billion exclamation marks)
Lastly, what's the point being on XDA-Developers if you have a locked bootloader?
Google Wallet used to be much more open, all you needed was a device with an NFC.
Now you need to adhere to some ridiculous security measurements...
Elephone is running a modified version of Android. I don't think they will ever get the "test-keys" registered.
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Therefore it is down to them. I wish I would have known this before I bought the damned thing. Other than that, not a bad handset for that cash.
I was merely quoting an email I got this morning from Elephone and an email I got from Google a few weeks ago. I was not being informed or misinformed, or trying to be clever or anything. Just letting everyone know what the outcome was. End of story. Thanks!
Wow people here are harsh and not a bit helpful so far!!!
Jonny said:
You are both ridiculously misinformed on the matter.
Elephone needs to switch from signing their ROM with test-keys to signing it with release-keys. If you want to know the difference between the two then please search.
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Jonny said:
You are both ridiculously misinformed on the matter.
Elephone needs to switch from signing their ROM with test-keys to signing it with release-keys. If you want to know the difference between the two then please search.
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Everyone's ridiculously misinformed! Misinformation all around. On the house.
Getting back on topic, are you saying that anyone who makes a ROM and signs it with release-keys instead of test-keys can make a Google-Pay-friendly ROM? That wouldn't make sense? I don't know. This info doesn't just lie around, so apologies if I sound daft.
Cheers
I'm going to jump on the "wish I had Android Pay" bandwagon.
I use contactless payment all the time and have backed the Pagare strap for my Pebble Time Steel watch but that has been delayed until next year, so in the interim it seems I can only use cards. Would like to be able to leave my wallet at home sometimes.
So is the only solution likely to be if Elephone themselves stop signing their roms with test keys, and use release keys instead, and users who are on custom roms go back to using the standard one?
jc-xjr said:
I'm going to jump on the "wish I had Android Pay" bandwagon.
I use contactless payment all the time and have backed the Pagare strap for my Pebble Time Steel watch but that has been delayed until next year, so in the interim it seems I can only use cards. Would like to be able to leave my wallet at home sometimes.
So is the only solution likely to be if Elephone themselves stop signing their roms with test keys, and use release keys instead, and users who are on custom roms go back to using the standard one?
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From what I've seen, yes
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I asked Elephone on their FB page if they knew when Android Pay would be supported on P9000.
Reply:
"Not at this time, still in R&D, will update when we have solid news"
Disappointing
FWIW I have read that it's not possible to get Android Pay working on phones with unlocked bootloader, or Cyanogenmod. Also Chinese phones generally.
As such, not sure how I just managed to set it up on my wife's Oneplus One running CM13. Added card, verified, no error messages.
I thought the OPO had an unlocked bootloader from stock, and it's still running CM13 not Oxygen OS?
If so, why can't we get Android Pay on P9000 in the CM13 ROM that is being developed?
I think it was something to do with the rom signing keys, I wish they would sing the rom with release keys instead.
JakesDen said:
I think it was something to do with the rom signing keys, I wish they would sing the rom with release keys instead.
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That's the first part of it, there are other parts if the CTS that need to pass as well but signing a ROM with test keys is a big deal breaker as it really isn't secure.
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That's the first part of it, there are other parts if the CTS that need to pass as well but signing a ROM with test keys is a big deal breaker as it really isn't secure.
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they should focus on doing that and and relicing the source for stuff so we can port over cyanogen and ubuntu touch.
Slightly OT:
I found a workaround that suits for me to pay with my p9000 in Germany.
Root and XPosed needed, so some MIGHT be out here. I'm using rootcloak and device Faker in combination with the App boon.
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arhornberg said:
Slightly OT:
I found a workaround that suits for me to pay with my p9000 in Germany.
Root and XPosed needed, so some MIGHT be out here. I'm using rootcloak and device Faker in combination with the App boon.
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Can you give a step by step guide?
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I have had Barclays Pay working on my phone for a few weeks now and that has no issues yet!
smartjim25 said:
I have had Barclays Pay working on my phone for a few weeks now and that has no issues yet!
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I've been using it since I got the phone and found out Android Pay doesn't work. The only time I had issues wss when I updated to the latest Elephone OTA update. It completely broke Barclaycard Pay and the only way I could get it working again was a full wipe of the device.
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I've been using it since I got the poo home and found out Android Pay doesn't work. The only time I had issues wss when I updated to the latest Elephone OTA update. It completely broke Barclaycard Pay and the only way I could get it working again was a full wipe of the device.
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You take your poo for walks? Lol that's gotta be typo of the year!
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The Emerge gets the root but this one doesn't? This phone is pretty much the exact same phone as specs show it. So, why is this phone getting the shaft while the other gets more attention? I would love to root the phone but seems every phone I by from Tracfone does not ever get root attention except my LG Optimus Fuel, which is way too old to even bother with.
Come on developers. I would like to put a custom rom on this but it seems like it will never happen. I guess me and people that have the same phone as me are just SOL. Thanks a whole lot! :crying:
Tracfones typically have locked bootloaders which make it very difficult to root. They also tend to lock phones down more than most carriers. Nearly every android phone can turn on developer options by tapping the build number 7 times but you can't even do that on a tracfone I recently got (SM-S320VL). Lower end phones and less popular models just don't get the attention that higher end phones do so it's very unlikely you'll see a root for your phone unless Kingroot or Kingoroot find an exploit in the current Android OS's - which I also see as unlikely being the newer OS's are getting harder to root all the time.
I got developer options turned on and I have done on all phones from Tracfone. What are you talking about?
LG Optimus Fuel (Rooted)
ZTE Citrine
LG Rebel
Samsung Galaxy J3 Luna Pro
All with Developer options enabled.
Also, does not explain why the Samsung Galaxy J3 Emerge gets the root. All it is, is a different network and different name. Pretty much same phone and same OS.
Also, why is it people answer but really do not answer about what is asked but just answer to what they only want to answer, which is not what should be answered?
J3 luna pro
I had no problems enabling my developer opitons not one bit of trouble I have the exact same model it Verizon one factory unlocked under tracphone from my knowledge Verizon Samsung was always harder to root so that maybe the case with our phone trust me I want to root mine really bad and been patient I bought this phone as am waiting on another phone release that am pre ordering wanted something inexpensive an decent no lag and fast I choose this if that is Verizon as well you maybe able to use the root unless it Odin I would do more research and remain patient they do alot of phones an deal with alot of different models firmwares it not that easy I want to root mine so I can get cm os because it lot faster no bloatware more smoother scrolling better battery life can't wait to make this phone faster all Round better
droidzer1 said:
Tracfones typically have locked bootloaders which make it very difficult to root. They also tend to lock phones down more than most carriers. Nearly every android phone can turn on developer options by tapping the build number 7 times but you can't even do that on a tracfone I recently got (SM-S320VL). Lower end phones and less popular models just don't get the attention that higher end phones do so it's very unlikely you'll see a root for your phone unless Kingroot or Kingoroot find an exploit in the current Android OS's - which I also see as unlikely being the newer OS's are getting harder to root all the time.
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I call bull**** on you not getting the build number to unlock dev options. I juat bought my luna pro today and have dev options on and oem unlock enabled so i dont know what your doing wrong but maybe you shoudnt have a "smart" phone!
krak1nthor said:
I call bull**** on you not getting the build number to unlock dev options. I juat bought my luna pro today and have dev options on and oem unlock enabled so i dont know what your doing wrong but maybe you shoudnt have a "smart" phone!
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No need to take that tone with someone who was nicely addressing your question. If you bite someone's head off just because they didn't (in your opinion) get every thing right in their response to something your not likely to get much help on these forums. People do not profit from helping you, they are doing it to be kind. When you are asking for help try to keep this in mind.
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krak1nthor said:
I call bull**** on you not getting the build number to unlock dev options. I juat bought my luna pro today and have dev options on and oem unlock enabled so i dont know what your doing wrong but maybe you shoudnt have a "smart" phone!
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That's fairly hilarious. I've got over 40 smart phones and nearly all of them are rooted, many with custom ROMS and some I got with Google FRP enabled which I managed to bypass despite not finding a single person, forum or youtube that could explain how to bypass it on this particular phone ( not the SM-S320VL I mentioned ) with the build it had on it. If yours works thats great but I am telling you that this particular SM-S320VL phone with the version that is on it does not allow developer options to be turned on. Doing an OEM unlock and turning on developer options is so basic and Kindergarten for almost everyone on here that your comment shows a lack of understanding what XDA is about and the type of members on here. All you have done is make yourself look foolish.
droidzer1 said:
That's fairly hilarious. I've got over 40 smart phones and nearly all of them are rooted, many with custom ROMS and some I got with Google FRP enabled which I managed to bypass despite not finding a single person, forum or youtube that could explain how to bypass it on this particular phone ( not the SM-S320VL I mentioned ) with the build it had on it. If yours works thats great but I am telling you that this particular SM-S320VL phone with the version that is on it does not allow developer options to be turned on. Doing an OEM unlock and turning on developer options is so basic and Kindergarten for almost everyone on here that your comment shows a lack of understanding what XDA is about and the type of members on here. All you have done is make yourself look foolish.
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There you go dude. Visible screenshots that show my device options are turned on and it doesn't have frp lock enabled. Maybe you need to try again before you step in the ring.
Maybe just maybe you have a device that had bad code written when that one went thru the manufacturing process but mine is totally fine. mod edit
krak1nthor said:
Maybe just maybe you have a device that had bad code written when that one went thru the manufacturing process but mine is totally fine. mod edit
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The model I mentioned is an SM-S320VL (a Galaxy Sky) and you have a SM-S327VL which is a Galaxy Luna Pro. You aren't even talking about the same model. I don't claim to be a developer but I do know the obvious basics on Android phones. Have a better day ....
I hate to say it but you droidzer or whatever you call yourself has obviously put yourself into the wrong thread for your device. Maybe just might find what your looking for in the 320vl qeustion pages. It is people like you clogging up threads for the work g thing that makes **** harder for people to get the info they need.
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Look in the j3 2016 forums and you can find root for your "sky" dickzer
krak1nthor said:
I hate to say it but you droidzer or whatever you call yourself has obviously put yourself into the wrong thread for your device. Maybe just might find what your looking for in the 320vl qeustion pages. It is people like you clogging up threads for the work g thing that makes **** harder for people to get the info they need.
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Look in the j3 2016 forums and you can find root for your "sky" dickzer
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My point in mentioning a different but similar model is that some carriers have their models more locked down and Tracfone seems to be one of them. Maybe that one had a problem as I do have a couple other Tracfone models that with developer options able to be turned on. But the whole point on my post was to say root is less likely for some of the lower end phones and that most of the Tracfone models I've seen were not rootable.
As I said in another post elsewhere, I have owned tabs that have come prerooted from factory. So why couldn't our phones be sold to us prerooted or at least ready to root? As far as the conversation goes with you... I am done and over it. We all know TracFone and straight talk do not make very smart decisions but they are doing better. They just need to listen to their subscribers and fix the stuff that's wrong on their end.
krak1nthor said:
I call bull**** on you not getting the build number to unlock dev options. I juat bought my luna pro today and have dev options on and oem unlock enabled so i dont know what your doing wrong but maybe you shoudnt have a "smart" phone!
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Hey, bro when I tried to select oem unlock in mine it's asking for a pin. I have straight talk for a carrier. Any clue on how to get the pin
Did you set a pin on your device during setup? That's it.
krak1nthor said:
I call bull**** on you not getting the build number to unlock dev options. I juat bought my luna pro today and have dev options on and oem unlock enabled so i dont know what your doing wrong but maybe you shoudnt have a "smart" phone!
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hopefully, by now you've managed to learn the very elementary process for enabling dev options in most Android. You have to tap 8 times on the build number. It's been that way since at least android 4 if not sooner
equitube said:
hopefully, by now you've managed to learn the very elementary process for enabling dev options in most Android. You have to tap 8 times on the build number. It's been that way since at least android 4 if not sooner
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I know how to enable Dev ops. I am not a tard like the vast majority of our wasted youth today are. As a matter of fact I repair and reprogram computers and also to repair LCDs and other various goodies on mobile phones in my local area. Been running my business for about 8 years now. So yeah bud, I know what I'm talking about. My phone was root ready until I found out nothing worked, but if I can get an identical j3 Luna pro I'm going to try the magisck root and see if it will work.
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DirtyLikaRat said:
Hey, bro when I tried to select oem unlock in mine it's asking for a pin. I have straight talk for a carrier. Any clue on how to get the pin
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The way it works is you tap build number 8 times to enable Dev ops, then go into it and allow oem unlock. It should never ask you for a pin number. You may be under the line sim unlock. Sim unlock is lower in the Dev ops than OEM UNLOCK. Good hunting.
Edit- the setup sim lock/unlock is in the security menu so judging by this you may not have developer options enabled DirtyLikaRat
Does SM-S377TL = SM-S327VL?
Hello, This comment is why I am a member Thank you Droidzer1. I work with Hardware support and sometimes people just don't get it - No two exact same phones are exactly the same - There are too many factors.
Hopefully you can help me out.
Issue
I have a Samsung J3 Luna Pro for TracPhone but the Model is SM-S377TL and I cannot find any combination or Flash files for this device to enable ADB and Debugging during FRP so I can reset the FRP code (Turn it off or disable) with the MiracleBox software.
Does SM-S377TL = SM-S327VL in the sense of FRP software coding and placement? (When I worked for some of the big Wireless providers I noticed that the Same Device and Models would have different Model Numbers (GSM vs CDMA) which makes sense due to software and hardware differences and I am worried this may be the same but I am hoping the files can be used in both devices without issue.
Any Advice from Anyone is greatly appreciated! (This phone was legally purchased but has an old Google Account that cannot be accessed on it)
droidzer1 said:
The model I mentioned is an SM-S320VL (a Galaxy Sky) and you have a SM-S327VL which is a Galaxy Luna Pro. You aren't even talking about the same model. I don't claim to be a developer but I do know the obvious basics on Android phones. Have a better day ....
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The TracFone and straight talk a one and the same even though the number says 333 vs 327 when in doubt check the build.prop file to see what it is or use the my device app from Google play to see what hardware you are running. here are a few screenshots for comparison for you.
krak1nthor said:
I know how to enable Dev ops. I am not a tard like the vast majority of our wasted youth today are. As a matter of fact I repair and reprogram computers and also to repair LCDs and other various goodies on mobile phones in my local area. Been running my business for about 8 years now. So yeah bud, I know what I'm talking about. My phone was root ready until I found out nothing worked, but if I can get an identical j3 Luna pro I'm going to try the magisck root and see if it will work.
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The way it works is you tap build number 8 times to enable Dev ops, then go into it and allow oem unlock. It should never ask you for a pin number. You may be under the line sim unlock. Sim unlock is lower in the Dev ops than OEM UNLOCK. Good hunting.
Edit- the setup sim lock/unlock is in the security menu so judging by this you may not have developer options enabled DirtyLikaRat
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Dude. The pin you use to unlock ya phone
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utahman1971 said:
I got developer options turned on and I have done on all phones from Tracfone. What are you talking about?
LG Optimus Fuel (Rooted)
ZTE Citrine
LG Rebel
Samsung Galaxy J3 Luna Pro
All with Developer options enabled.
Also, does not explain why the Samsung Galaxy J3 Emerge gets the root. All it is, is a different network and different name. Pretty much same phone and same OS.
Also, why is it people answer but really do not answer about what is asked but just answer to what they only want to answer, which is not what should be answered?
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Indeed
Hello, since Firmware Finder cannot enforce updates anymore, is there any alternative that does not require root? Honor really sucks at delivering updates, in FF I can see version 8.1.0.143 while I'm still on 131, this was always a pain in the ass for Honor devices but previously I always thought "who cares, I can force it via FF", well now I do care and this will be my last Honor device if I can't get the updates to work.
Thanks for any advice.
I just hate people like you who keep trowing dirt at companies for this sh*t about updates.
143 was just released, not long ago, cant you have patience a bit?you have the previous version, so at what do they suck?you have june or july sec update i bet.
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I just hate people like you who keep trowing dirt at companies for this sh*t about updates.
143 was just released, not long ago, cant you have patience a bit?you have the previous version, so at what do they suck?you have june or july sec update i bet.
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I'm sorry but if someone like Apple were to announce an iOS update for a specific day, you would expect it to be available on that day and it most likely would be. Honor told us that the update would be on August 3rd for the EU, yet here I am 3 days later in the UK unable to see 143/145. This would be relatively fine, if they hadn't made several posts on their Twitter accounts saying things like "update now!" and "have you updated yet?", and also made a competition on this very forum with a 10 day deadline, meaning if someone like me wanted to enter they would be 3 days behind anyone else already.
Rikudou_Sennin said:
Hello, since Firmware Finder cannot enforce updates anymore, is there any alternative that does not require root? Honor really sucks at delivering updates, in FF I can see version 8.1.0.143 while I'm still on 131, this was always a pain in the ass for Honor devices but previously I always thought "who cares, I can force it via FF", well now I do care and this will be my last Honor device if I can't get the updates to work.
Thanks for any advice.
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.... Mate you have no clue how firnware finder works. There was is no way to enforce firmware update when the firmware it self is nit certified by google yet. Only by usinv nocheck recovery
Stupid people
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banjoboy420 said:
I'm sorry but if someone like Apple were to announce an iOS update for a specific day, you would expect it to be available on that day and it most likely would be. Honor told us that the update would be on August 3rd for the EU, yet here I am 3 days later in the UK unable to see 143/145. This would be relatively fine, if they hadn't made several posts on their Twitter accounts saying things like "update now!" and "have you updated yet?", and also made a competition on this very forum with a 10 day deadline, meaning if someone like me wanted to enter they would be 3 days behind anyone else already.
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Well its not huawei the problem. They released the update but google has to certify it then it will be sent in batches.
vampirian said:
.... Mate you have bo clue how firnware finder works. There was us no way to enforce firmware update when the firmware it self is nit certified by google yet.
Stupid people
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Well its not huawei tge problem. They released tge update but google has yo certify it otherwise you will not receive it. Blame google in this case. Not huawei
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Sorry what? "certified by Google"? If the update has already come out in other regions/countries then surely it's already good to go, and the blame rests on Huawei/Honor for not pushing it to all the relevant regions/devices (which I'm sure they're able to do without doing it in waves, otherwise they wouldn't be telling everyone it's available now...)
banjoboy420 said:
Sorry what? "certified by Google"? If the update has already come out in other regions/countries then surely it's already good to go, and the blame rests on Huawei/Honor for not pushing it to all the relevant regions/devices (which I'm sure they're able to do without doing it in waves, otherwise they wouldn't be telling everyone it's available now...)
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Certification goes by country my friend. Thats the main reason why it goes in waves. If you are so much in rush you can use no check recovery and then you will see its not certified by Google . So yes its Google to blame because huawei have the update ready.
Garkan said:
I just hate people like you who keep trowing dirt at companies for this sh*t about updates.
143 was just released, not long ago, cant you have patience a bit?you have the previous version, so at what do they suck?you have june or july sec update i bet.
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You know, before I started using Firmware Finder on one of my previous phones, I was a year without an update. So that's what they suck at.
vampirian said:
Certification goes by country my friend. Thats the main reason why it goes in waves. If you are so much in rush you can use no check recovery and then you will see its not certified by Google . So yes its Google to blame because huawei have the update ready.
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Really? It was my understanding that not being "certified by Google" was something that stopped your specific device from being updated, and that each manufacturer organised their own OTA updates (to me it doesn't make much sense for Google to be certifying Huawei, Samsung, etc. updates, as surely those companies have their own teams to test this stuff?).
Even so, I spoke with Honor customer service earlier today and all "Shane" could tell me was to "hold on". He even said he agreed that it's a bit silly for Honor to tell everyone it's available when really it isn't, but that there's nothing else they can do
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Really? It was my understanding that not being "certified by Google" was something that stopped your specific device from being updated, and that each manufacturer organised their own OTA updates (to me it doesn't make much sense for Google to be certifying Huawei, Samsung, etc. updates, as surely those companies have their own teams to test this stuff?).
Even so, I spoke with Honor customer service earlier today and all "Shane" could tell me was to "hold on". He even said he agreed that it's a bit silly for Honor to tell everyone it's available when really it isn't, but that there's nothing else they can do
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Its not about huawei. Its about google security. Having or not their own team to test things doesnt mean they have access to google suite. Certification grants you access to google play, google pay and certain banking apps. If google did not check the updates for certain bugs, hacks etc then the update will stay on hold and as i said from country to country banking systems, telecommunication security systems are different.
Little miss leading social media , yes gpu boost is rolling out in certain regions this is normal practice for honor again it's region based batches at a time , the UK is always the last to get it , honor phones are not like say a OnePlus global device were as soon as a update rolls say in Canada first, you can set a VPN to Canada and download it even though your region hasn't got update yet , that would be nice but honor phones have tons of different region build numbers so unfortunately it's a waiting game for us in UK , I applied for the gpu boost beta and that wasn't being announced till 13th and haven't heard a thing since [emoji848]
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Is there actually an alternative to FF? I just want to download the .zip and cannot update it via the phone.
FF doesnt have the current Firmware "C432E2R1P5" für my Honor 9
€: Nvm. I found it, its the B162. But anyway are there other website who gather Honor/Huawei Firmwares?
tesacrap said:
Is there actually an alternative to FF? I just want to download the .zip and cannot update it via the phone.
FF doesnt have the current Firmware "C432E2R1P5" für my Honor 9
€: Nvm. I found it, its the B162. But anyway are there other website who gather Honor/Huawei Firmwares?
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Idk, i hope
Hey Mate 20 Pro owners - just trying to understand what the Mate 20 Pro owners are planning on at the moment in the wake of Google/android services ban etc.,
I am also a proud owner of Mate 20 Pro for the last six months and I absolutely love this device.
Are you guys trying to selling it off before the value drops too low?
Or, hoping the situation will reverse and fix itself?
I am hoping it will all be okay in the next two months? What do you guys advise?
I'm sticking with it as this Google business isn't a major problem for me
Same here, i'll stay with my mate 20 pro.
i really think it's a great phone, so i see no reason to sell it.
About the problems with Google, we still have 3 months before the ban really starts, so i think it's just a pressure method from Trump to get the trade deal with China.
And even if it's not and they still ban it i will stay with Huawei, i have to say i'm really curious about Hongmeng OS that they'll launch in fall.
I only consider price and value before and at the time of buying. Once I make a decision, the price is no longer a factor for me. I only bought the phone recently because my previous phone was no longer usable. As long as my current gapps remain usable on this phone, I don't necessarily care about future updates that much. I buy a phone based on it's performance at the time of purchase. When I was buying this phone, I wanted a flagship phone for a non-flagship price, I refuse to spend a $1000 for a phone. After considering many, it came down to this phone because it was a flagship phone that had a non-flagship price.
It's bad when a phone loses it's upgrade path, it's always better to have a phone from a brand that's not in the news for all the wrong reasons. However, all the good reasons I bought this phone for to begin with still stand. I'm in the USA, I buy my phones outright and just put them on my basic plan without subsidy because it saves me money in the long run. I wanted a good phone, I got a good phone. I take care of it, I got a case that protects it's front and back, it should last long enough to justify it's investment. With each transaction, be it a car, a house or a phone, you lose money (especially with sales tax) so the solution is to buy smart and minimize the number of transactions as much as possible. I would love to unlock the bootloader and root it, I would love it if Huawei bans are reversed but even if not, what I have is still a great phone to keep for the foreseeable future.
From now on, I'll keep it. It doesn't a matter if we can't upgrade to Android Q. But I must keep using Android Suite, because I'm using it for work. And I'm also using Android Auto.
Don't worry, if you need gaps you have various ways to install them. Besides, I can't wait to see what will that new OS will be!
Jovan.Sulic said:
Don't worry, if you need gaps you have various ways to install them. Besides, I can't wait to see what will that new OS will be!
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can you please elaborate? I'm also curious if there's alternative non offical way to keep the os and apps as is in a functional way.
Existing Huawei devices will keep access to gapps, even after if and when the ban is permanently enforced. If there is no positive solution for Huawei, their future phones will not be able to access gapps. Sideloading gapps to future devices after the ban is official just won't work without changing the device ID, google servers (play store, gmail, gmaps, etc, etc) will deny access to future identified Huawei phones. For example, Mate 30 Pro will likely launch in November, the current 90 day extension expires in August. If the ban is still in place (I doubt it) at the time the Mate 30 Pro launches, then it will be denied access to gaaps, if it's identified as a Huawei device that was launched after the ban became official.
Personally I think it's just politics and leveraging for a position in the trade war negotiations. Huawei's growth is a concern to others, they surpassed others in the 5G infrastructure tech and the USA and it's allies don't want the traffic to go through tech they don't have control over. The reason they are leaving Xiaomi or 1+ alone is they don't make the infrastructure behind 5G. I think it's not about China spying through Huawei, rather about them not being able to spy through Huawei equipment.
I'm definitely keeping mine for another year, the resell value is so minuscule now that it's not worth upgrading after just a year. This is still a great device and on par with all the newest flagships.
I don't care if EMUI 10/Android Q eventually arrives without any Google services, I'll simply use Gmail through the native EMUI email app and download my apps through Aurora store. Aurora allows you to login with your Google account even without Play services and download paid apps you've purchased. For YouTube I'll use Vanced, it has no ads and no need for Google services.
mcjordan92 said:
can you please elaborate? I'm also curious if there's alternative non offical way to keep the os and apps as is in a functional way.
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Someone has already mentioned that the ban does not apply to existing phones. The xda forum has instructions on how to install gaps. after all, Huawei announced that the existing phones will send security patches
I just googled this thread. But if you ever instaled custom ROM you know what I mean.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-20-pro/help/google-play-store-chinese-variant-t3861639
When the ban hits and I'm focked by Trump I'll buy a bootloader unlock code and install LineageOS. Hopefully by then the camera functions are supported sufficiently to use the camera properly as that's what made me upgrade from the Mate 9, to 10 pro to 20 pro...
blackspp said:
When the ban hits and I'm focked by Trump I'll buy a bootloader unlock code and install LineageOS. Hopefully by then the camera functions are supported sufficiently to use the camera properly as that's what made me upgrade from the Mate 9, to 10 pro to 20 pro...
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You can do that right now, but I will wait for that new huawei OS and see what will Huawei bring to us
Jovan.Sulic said:
Someone has already mentioned that the ban does not apply to existing phones. The xda forum has instructions on how to install gaps. after all, Huawei announced that the existing phones will send security patches
I just googled this thread. But if you ever instaled custom ROM you know what I mean.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-20-pro/help/google-play-store-chinese-variant-t3861639
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The ban does apply to existing phones. They will be able to continue using existing software but there will be no more updates.
Installing custom ROMs is impossible on international phones since the bootloader is locked.
darkoroje said:
The ban does apply to existing phones. They will be able to continue using existing software but there will be no more updates.
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Yes and no. My understanding is that current Huawei phones will get official Google security updates, but no OS updates.
charliebigpot said:
Yes and no. My understanding is that current Huawei phones will get official Google security updates, but no OS updates.
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No. Existing phones can continue to use Google play protect and the play store but Huawei cannot release any updates including security updates after August.
Huawei will obviously focus their attention on the new os which will replace android so chances on getting much support on our phones is quite low. Which is why the resale value of the phone has collapsed.
https://www.techradar.com/news/huaweis-os-to-be-rolled-out-next-month
Interesting stuff
Lets not forget people have bought the Chinese models which aren't official Android (not supported) and had no issues, the media are just blowing the whole thing up
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darkoroje said:
Huawei cannot release any updates including security updates after August.
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Not what I've been reading or seen on Youtube, security updates will continue and they could release unsupported updates of the OS like in China
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blackspp said:
When the ban hits and I'm focked by Trump I'll buy a bootloader unlock code and install LineageOS. Hopefully by then the camera functions are supported sufficiently to use the camera properly as that's what made me upgrade from the Mate 9, to 10 pro to 20 pro...
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I doubt the camera app will take full advantage of it
They cannot release unsupported updates of android because Google play services would stop working which would make it unusable.
darkoroje said:
They cannot release unsupported updates of android because Google play services would stop working which would make it unusable.
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So how do the Chinese version do it, don't they just install Google Services separately, even if that didn't work nothing stopping them using the Hisuit to do it
Shipoftheline said:
So how do the Chinese version do it, don't they just install Google Services separately, even if that didn't work nothing stopping them using the Hisuit to do it
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Chinese versions do not have access to Google services as far as I know. Google services are banned by law in China.