Hi all
I am returning to xda after years. Nostalgia aside, this is more of a warning post for people looking to buy this phone. The standard charger I got with this phone outputs 5V, 550mA. Simple math shows that this charger will take 6 hours to charge the 3000mAh battery. In practice, I managed to fill from 5% to 45% in about 2.5 hrs before realizing what an awful charger I had been given and switched to my old Nexus 5 charger (5V, 1200mA). Then from 45% to 100% took less than 90mins. So the battery is OK. The software is fine and there are no background apps causing problems. If the software had been an issue then even my Nexus 5 charger would have had trouble...
Motorola support so far has been nearly useless but I have escalated the issue. One support guy told me that they expect a 4 hour charge time. This equates to a 5V 750mA charger. Does the company still think we are using Moto Razr from 2005? Another guy wasted half an hour asking scripted questions... I am actually shocked to know that such woefully underpowered phone chargers are even ordered for production these days. Even a USB 2 port supplies 5V 500mA and that wasn't even designed to act as a charger!
TLDR - buy the phone with the knowledge that the standard charger may not even work as paper weight (it is actually very light haha).
I can confirm this. It's kind of useless when it comes bundled with a phone that advertises turbo charging.
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I second this. My phone went to 0% and the charger is useless to get it back to life lol
Phone still blinking white led and unable to go on even after 1 hour charging. T_T
that's how the business runs and why the turbo charger sells separately.
Just ordered the 16gb G4. Would something like this from Amazon do the same job as Motorola's own turbo charger?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00KD1XQT8
It sounds like a little mis-advertising from Motorola. The one I just ordered said it included a Turbo Power charger.
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The Moto G4 comes with a standard charger, but the phone supports Turbo charging. The G4 Plus comes with the Turbo charger. (and 3MP extra camera res on the back and a fingerprint scanner, that's it)
I'm using the charger I have laying about for charging and they work good enough. However, I use the phone almost never, only for navigating and the 2-3 calls I get per month. (And messing about with sources so I can try to get cm build on it )
Note that the TurboCharger motorola is not necessary.
I used a compatible charger (Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0), and it works well.
20 minutes to reach 15%, and I have the toast that says "TurboPower Connected".
Does that charger have the same voltage and amperage as Motorola's overpriced charger?
I have been doing a lot of reading and research. I am not yet sure if the TurboPower charger will not be included for the U.S. release on July 12th. Doesn't seem hopeful though. Further google searches, after being tempted to buy the Motorola Turbo chargers for the wall AND car, led me to the Qualcomm website. The CPU that is in the the Moto G4, is Quick Charge 3.0 compatible. So, that in turn led me to other brands that sell Quick Charge 3.0 for cars and wall plugs. It sucks that you have to spend extra for the faster charging, but you can go with a much cheaper brand, such as Anker or, yootek, aukey, or choetech. Or whatever. Hope this helps. Just type in 1.5 GHz Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 617 on Google, which will lead you to where I got this information, at the official website for qualcomm.
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I have been doing a lot of reading and research. I am not yet sure if the TurboPower charger will not be included for the U.S. release on July 12th. Doesn't seem hopeful though. Further google searches, after being tempted to buy the Motorola Turbo chargers for the wall AND car, led me to the Qualcomm website. The CPU that is in the the Moto G4, is Quick Charge 3.0 compatible. So, that in turn led me to other brands that sell Quick Charge 3.0 for cars and wall plugs. It sucks that you have to spend extra for the faster charging, but you can go with a much cheaper brand, such as Anker or, yootek, aukey, or choetech. Or whatever. Hope this helps. Just type in 1.5 GHz Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 617 on Google, which will lead you to where I got this information, at the official website for qualcomm.
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Thanks, I'll take a look at it later.
Doukeyakusha said:
I have been doing a lot of reading and research. I am not yet sure if the TurboPower charger will not be included for the U.S. release on July 12th. Doesn't seem hopeful though. Further google searches, after being tempted to buy the Motorola Turbo chargers for the wall AND car, led me to the Qualcomm website. The CPU that is in the the Moto G4, is Quick Charge 3.0 compatible. So, that in turn led me to other brands that sell Quick Charge 3.0 for cars and wall plugs. It sucks that you have to spend extra for the faster charging, but you can go with a much cheaper brand, such as Anker or, yootek, aukey, or choetech. Or whatever. Hope this helps. Just type in 1.5 GHz Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 617 on Google, which will lead you to where I got this information, at the official website for qualcomm.
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According to the G4 page on Motorola's site the Turbopower charger is included with the phone in the US.
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According to the G4 page on Motorola's site the Turbopower charger is included with the phone in the US.
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Hopefully that is not a mistake and they aren't just talking about the Plus. Which I know does come with the Turbo charger. If it is true, great! I can send one of my chargers back.
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Hopefully that is not a mistake and they aren't just talking about the Plus. Which I know does come with the Turbo charger. If it is true, great! I can send one of my chargers back.
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Knowing Customer Service in the US, particularly Amazon and Motorola, if the G4 doesn't come with the Turbocharger one can just complain to Customer Service for either Motorola or Amazon and complain to get a free Turbocharger. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
EDIT: On the Amazon page it also says the Turbocharger is included with the G4. Either way I think we're good.
darabo said:
Knowing Customer Service in the US, particularly Amazon and Motorola, if the G4 doesn't come with the Turbocharger one can just complain to Customer Service for either Motorola or Amazon and complain to get a free Turbocharger. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
EDIT: On the Amazon page it also says the Turbocharger is included with the G4. Either way I think we're good.
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Haha, made me chuckle. That's true. They know their audience lol! Thumbs up for you ?I kinda also figured they thought us 'mercans would start a riot if we didn't get our darn TurboCharger! Lol
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Haha, made me chuckle. That's true. They know their audience lol! Thumbs up for you ��I kinda also figured they thought us 'mercans would start a riot if we didn't get our darn TurboCharger! Lol
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You'd be surprised how special US audiences are treated in terms of consumer products and service.
For instance when the New 3DS XL was released the US included a power adapter whereas in the rest of the world was told by Nintendo to use their own charger or buy one separately.
darabo said:
You'd be surprised how special US audiences are treated in terms of consumer products and service.
For instance when the New 3DS XL was released the US included a power adapter whereas in the rest of the world was told by Nintendo to use their own charger or buy one separately.
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Sorry on behalf of well, everything.I wish you all could get the same treatment. Sincerely.
I purchased an anker quick charge 3 charger off Amazon for £10, works great
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seanicca said:
I purchased an anker quick charge 3 charger off Amazon for £10, works great
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Does the G4 support QC 3?
darabo said:
Does the G4 support QC 3?
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Yes, just not included with the phone in UK
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Just saw this on HTCpedia:
http://shop.htcpedia.com/htc-3000-mah-external-battery-bank-charger.html
Seems like HTC is trying to make more money off of making the battery non-removable.
FattySparks said:
Just saw this on HTCpedia:
http://shop.htcpedia.com/htc-3000-mah-external-battery-bank-charger.html
Let's make some more money off of this thing?
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Um.... not a reason to make it internal. LOL That's kind of silly isn't it.
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Um.... not a reason to make it internal. LOL That's kind of silly isn't it.
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I meant non-removable.
So, lets share what we are/have/will use to keep our phones charged up while on the go!
When I found out that officially, we were getting the non-removable battery, I started hanging out with the One X folks and seeing what they are using and have used. I decided that I didn't need a HUGE battery pack because I do have access to charge at home, in the car, at the office. What I did need was something to fill the gap if I happen to really need power and are not in one of those 3 places.
I decided to get the Anker 5600mAh charger and see how it would work out, supporting my daily use of my Evo 3D. I can say, this thing is AWESOME! Something that was important was charging rate and this charges at 1000mAh output just like the wall charger (*Input is 1.2. A LOT of the chargers on the market are only rated at 800mAh and I didn't want that. There are also a lot that are HUGE but when thinking about how it will be used, I wanted it to be highly portable and reliable.
**Battery pack capacity DOES NOT equal output due to charging loss due to heat and other factors. So the 5600mA pack gives me just about 3 full charges of my 1730mA Evo 3D battery.
I highly, highly recommend this for the value, portability and reliability.
What are you all using??
^^^I like that a lot!!
I've been using Anker batteries in my 3D for a long time now and they work great!! All of their products seem very well made
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I'm hoping for a battery glove like the Iphone has.
mrrogers1 said:
So, lets share what we are/have/will use to keep our phones charged up while on the go!
When I found out that officially, we were getting the non-removable battery, I started hanging out with the One X folks and seeing what they are using and have used. I decided that I didn't need a HUGE battery pack because I do have access to charge at home, in the car, at the office. What I did need was something to fill the gap if I happen to really need power and are not in one of those 3 places.
I decided to get the Anker 5600mAh charger and see how it would work out, supporting my daily use of my Evo 3D. I can say, this thing is AWESOME! Something that was important was charging rate and this charges at 1000mAh output just like the wall charger (*Input is 1.2. A LOT of the chargers on the market are only rated at 800mAh and I didn't want that. There are also a lot that are HUGE but when thinking about how it will be used, I wanted it to be highly portable and reliable.
**Battery pack capacity DOES NOT equal output due to charging loss due to heat and other factors. So the 5600mA pack gives me just about 3 full charges of my 1730mA Evo 3D battery.
I highly, highly recommend this for the value, portability and reliability.
What are you all using??
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Ha, i has just looking at that before i clicked on this thread
http://www.amazon.com/Anker-5600mAh..._46?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1336698774&sr=1-46
I use this one for my epic and it works great!! I just used some Velcro to put it on my dash and now it stays charged all the time!!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005ZSVZRY/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00
It nice getting free energy!! It charges while im at work and my car is just sitting there.
mrrogers1 said:
I decided to get the Anker 5600mAh charger and see how it would work out, supporting my daily use of my Evo 3D. I can say, this thing is AWESOME!
What are you all using??
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Think I'm going to buy the same thing. They also make bigger ones, so my only debate is what size to pick. The 5600 seems good because it's small enough and 2 full charges is plenty for an emergency I would think... Either that or the 8400mAh one.
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http://www.amazon.com/Anker-5600mAh...192G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1336917828&sr=8-1
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Think I'm going to buy the same thing. They also make bigger ones, so my only debate is what size to pick. The 5600 seems good because it's small enough and 2 full charges is plenty for an emergency I would think... Either that or the 8400mAh one.
5600mAh:
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http://www.amazon.com/Anker-5600mAh...192G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1336917828&sr=8-1
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5600 is perfect because it is small and has plenty of juice to save you wherever you are. 2 full charges easy and I'm telling you, it charges as fast (seems like faster) than the wall chargers.
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The 5600 pack will only have 3920 usable mah. I'm still thinking which only to get. I seen other brands with excellent reviews as well. They don't have the 5.3v output so you wouldn't loose as much power while charging your phone
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The 5600 pack will only have 3920 usable mah. I'm still thinking which only to get. I seen other brands with excellent reviews as well. They don't have the 5.3v output so you wouldn't loose as much power while charging your phone
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Not sure how you came up with that number but I am sure I can charge my 3D nearly 3 full times. I love the speed at which this bad boy charges too. Takes about 2hr and all set. You'll be very happy with this unit.
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Double check the review on amazon where the guy reposts what the seller stated. 30% is wasted using the charger leaving 70% usable
Took this from the review
""Sorry to hear that this external battery does not satisfy you. The input from AC or laptop to external batteries is 5v, while the output from external batteries to phones is 5.3v. Boosting from 5v to 5.3v and the external battery itself consumes power (about 30%). Therefore, the actual power that can be used to charge other devices is 70% (5600x70%=3920mah). So, this external battery is supposed to be able to charge a 1700mah battery for two times and a little more."
So after reading that I thought about a bigger one just incase.
.jond said:
Think I'm going to buy the same thing. They also make bigger ones, so my only debate is what size to pick. The 5600 seems good because it's small enough and 2 full charges is plenty for an emergency I would think... Either that or the 8400mAh one.
5600mAh:
8400mAh:
http://www.amazon.com/Anker-5600mAh...192G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1336917828&sr=8-1
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I went with the 8400mAh since I plan on using it while traveling to charge my phone and iPad.
See this review on YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-XDx4K1Q38&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Joey SR said:
Double check the review on amazon where the guy reposts what the seller stated. 30% is wasted using the charger leaving 70% usable
Took this from the review
""Sorry to hear that this external battery does not satisfy you. The input from AC or laptop to external batteries is 5v, while the output from external batteries to phones is 5.3v. Boosting from 5v to 5.3v and the external battery itself consumes power (about 30%). Therefore, the actual power that can be used to charge other devices is 70% (5600x70%=3920mah). So, this external battery is supposed to be able to charge a 1700mah battery for two times and a little more."
So after reading that I thought about a bigger one just incase.
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Oh, ok, non-scientific, generally speaking AND on the safe side from the seller. Real World, I definitely get more than 2 and a little bit charges out of mine on my 1700mA battery.
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Anyone have a battery from "new Trent"
I went ahead and bought this one:
http://www.amazon.com/New-Trent-IMP60D-Thunderbolt-Blackberry/dp/B003690Q42/ref=pd_sim_e_7
Very compact, and the best thing about it is you're able to charge it via USB and not have a bulky wall charger..
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I went ahead and bought this one:
http://www.amazon.com/New-Trent-IMP60D-Thunderbolt-Blackberry/dp/B003690Q42/ref=pd_sim_e_7
Very compact, and the best thing about it is, you're able to charge it via USB and not have a bulky wall charger..
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Does it do 1amp output?
Joey SR said:
Does it do 1amp output?
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I can't say 150% because I didn't ask Trent about "THIS" model but I asked them (I called Trent before committing to a purchase) if they had ANY that did 1A output and they apologized and told me no. I was going to buy the Trent that has been on sale lately but when I saw this vs the Anker, I went with the Anker.
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I can't say 150% because I didn't ask Trent about "THIS" model but I asked them (I called Trent before committing to a purchase) if they had ANY that did 1A output and they apologized and told me no. I was going to buy the Trent that has been on sale lately but when I saw this vs the Anker, I went with the Anker.
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I just emailed them. Let see if we get a different response
they are all over Ebay now for around $13. got one today and it works great. These chargers don't have a USB port the cable is connected directly to the plug. much better than paying the $40 for another charger.
Amazon has similar items. Waiting on mine in the mail.
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The power of the Internet is that one can link to things.....So...share that link!
I bought one on ebay for $9.50 coming from China. Made my touch screen go haywire. This one has the usb end so I can use my stock usb cable to it. I wanted to get it to extend my cable. I've also seen one with the 40pin charging connector on ebay and amazon that some reviewers mention had the same effect on touch screen. You can test yours by not touching the tablet and just use your finger across the screen. Once you touch the tablet with the other hand it grounds the tablet and works fine. I'm not sure I would trust these chargers not to damage the tablet eventually since they are not properly grounded. Here's a video i sent to the seller who promptly gave me a refund. So just be careful...
Link to item
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-USB-Wal...d-Transformer-TF201-TF101-SL101-/280867766604
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Had the same happen with mine. Has a fixed 40 pin plug. Told the seller and he send me another one -guess what - same thing.
Be careful ordering these. They have issue as shown.
Given that I spent $500 on the tablet, and another $150 on my dock I don't know it is really worthwhile to skimp when it comes to buying a charger for my Prime.
These off-brand Chinese chargers have zero quality control and there is no way to know what voltage they are actually delivering to the tablet. They could be destroying your tablet's battery.
IMO, if you need an extra charging cable you are better off just spending the $30 on an original Asus TF101/201 charging adapter.
Have mine put together from adaptaplug stuff at Radioshack. More quality control than Asus as I haven't had this one fall and have killed two of theirs. Bought the cheap one just because.
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knives of ice said:
they are all over Ebay now for around $13. got one today and it works great. These chargers don't have a USB port the cable is connected directly to the plug. much better than paying the $40 for another charger.
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gunz.jones said:
Amazon has similar items. Waiting on mine in the mail.
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you guys mind posting the link to them so others can get them too?
knives of ice said:
they are all over Ebay now for around $13. got one today and it works great. These chargers don't have a USB port the cable is connected directly to the plug. much better than paying the $40 for another charger.
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Stop being cheap and spend money on the OEM charger. Buying third party electrical stuff with sensitive electronics isn't a good idea.
What did you save, $10-$13?
opentoe said:
Stop being cheap and spend money on the OEM charger. Buying third party electrical stuff with sensitive electronics isn't a good idea.
What did you save, $10-$13?
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Bogus...
Yeah, 100% savings is bad, right?
Please, I have bought so many after market phone and tablet accessories that function just the same as the OEM overpriced name brand stamped accessories.
If anything, I think it is more of a douche move to spend 2x the money on an OEM part to get essentially the same product as those from over seas
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Bogus...
Yeah, 100% savings is bad, right?
Please, I have bought so many after market phone and tablet accessories that function just the same as the OEM overpriced name brand stamped accessories.
If anything, I think it is more of a douche move to spend 2x the money on an OEM part to get essentially the same product as those from over seas
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To put the opposite spin on your story, I have purchased TONS of aftermarket no-name chargers for cell phones and other electronics, and at least 1/3rd of them were bad. I mean bad, in that they damaged the batteries of the devices they were used with.
Many of them work fine even to this day, but one bad one can turn your $10-15 in savings into a $500 loss pretty quick.
Its your device, and it is your money but keep in mind these no name unbranded chargers come with some risks.
I'm all for saving money too and I buy a lot of 3rd party accessories. But in this case though I really made a mistake of trying to save $15. You can say youre saving 100% but really that depends on the actual value. Thats like saying if you can get an OEM part for $2 but a knock off is $1 and the $1 dollar can break easily, you cant say you would still buy the $1 one. Now if you were saving $50 or more then yea that logic makes sense.
Here's another example, my friend has both iphone and an HTC phone. Instead of buying 1 charger for each she bought a 2 in 1 so she can save $. Turns out it was outputting too much amp on the micro usb side of the cable even though it says compatible. And guess what, she damaged her HTC phone. So even though she ended up saving $20 shes now out of a $500 phone. She didn't have insurance.
Anyhow after I saw what the charger did to my tablet I started googling for others and they all look identical to what I bought, so I'm assuming theyre coming from the same source in china. And the one on Amazon has the same issue. If you really still want save $ then atleast find one that doesn't look the same as the one I posted in the video.
This what I bought for your reference. 99% of the chargers sold on ebay or Amazon has the same wall plug.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-USB-Wal...?pt=US_Tablet_Accessories&hash=item416587cdd9
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This proprietary charger is really pissing me off. I too buy a lot of ebay chargers, but I typically spend the extra dollar for name brand. Not necessarily the OEM name brand but some name brand (LG, HTC, Moto, etc).
In my living room, I have a LG wall block, a 6 ft usb extension cord and a LG micro usb cord. So I unlocked the LG micro usb part and plugged in the Asus cord. Tablet wouldn't come on (yes I let it die). So I changed out LG block for the Asus block but left the 6 ft extension in. The tablet powered on but even after about 15 minutes still showed 0% battery. So I powered it off for an hour and powered it back on. It was at 5%. So I removed the extension cord which meant I had to set it down to charge (with it powered on). Within an hour or two it was at 75%.
I may at least buy a USB 3.0 extension cord do I can charge and play at the same time. Just which they'd put micro usb's in tablets like they do phones.
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joshw0000 said:
This proprietary charger is really pissing me off. I too buy a lot of ebay chargers, but I typically spend the extra dollar for name brand. Not necessarily the OEM name brand but some name brand (LG, HTC, Moto, etc).
In my living room, I have a LG wall block, a 6 ft usb extension cord and a LG micro usb cord. So I unlocked the LG micro usb part and plugged in the Asus cord. Tablet wouldn't come on (yes I let it die). So I changed out LG block for the Asus block but left the 6 ft extension in. The tablet powered on but even after about 15 minutes still showed 0% battery. So I powered it off for an hour and powered it back on. It was at 5%. So I removed the extension cord which meant I had to set it down to charge (with it powered on). Within an hour or two it was at 75%.
I may at least buy a USB 3.0 extension cord do I can charge and play at the same time. Just which they'd put micro usb's in tablets like they do phones.
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No charger that was included with a phone will charge the Prime. The Prime needs 15v to really charge and most cell phone charging blocks only output 5v. If you turn the Prime all the way off, it will charge very slowly but that isn't all that useful since it could take longer than 15 hours to fully charge the Prime from 0% to full using 5v source.
Also, because of the Prime's higher power requirements if you want to use a USB cable as an extension you will need to make sure that you use a USB 3 compatible cable. USB 2 isn't wired up to support higher voltage so anything plugged into the cable will only charge at 5v which is true to USB 1/2 specification.
Don't get mad at the Prime's proprietary charger, pretty much all 10" tablets have the same kind of situation including the iPad, Galaxy Tab, Xoom, etc.
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No charger that was included with a phone will charge the Prime. The Prime needs 15v to really charge and most cell phone charging blocks only output 5v. If you turn the Prime all the way off, it will charge very slowly but that isn't all that useful since it could take longer than 15 hours to fully charge the Prime from 0% to full using 5v source.
Also, because of the Prime's higher power requirements if you want to use a USB cable as an extension you will need to make sure that you use a USB 3 compatible cable. USB 2 isn't wired up to support higher voltage so anything plugged into the cable will only charge at 5v which is true to USB 1/2 specification.
Don't get mad at the Prime's proprietary charger, pretty much all 10" tablets have the same kind of situation including the iPad, Galaxy Tab, Xoom, etc.
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Yea, I figured that out. I'm not mad, persay, at Asus as every tablet I've owned has had a proprietary charger. I'm currently the highest bidder on a OEM charger and usb cord on ebay. I've checked out the usb 3.0 cords for about $6. I may pick one of those up if I win the charger.
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joshw0000 said:
Yea, I figured that out. I'm not mad, persay, at Asus as every tablet I've owned has had a proprietary charger. I'm currently the highest bidder on a OEM charger and usb cord on ebay. I've checked out the usb 3.0 cords for about $6. I may pick one of those up if I win the charger.
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If you miss out on the eBay charger remember that you can pick one up from Office Depot for $30.
http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/768723/ASUS-Power-Adapter-For-Eee-Pad/
almightywhacko said:
If you miss out on the eBay charger remember that you can pick one up from Office Depot for $30.
http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/768723/ASUS-Power-Adapter-For-Eee-Pad/
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They're on Amazon for about that much, too. I just had to buy a new one because my original charger broke.
I am able to charge my Prime from my computer's usb port, but the dock can't be on, and it charges REALLY slow. It took about 30 hours on the computer to go from 40% to 95%.
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Motorola bundles the phone with a 550mA, which makes charging very slow.
Has anybody tried a high power (2A) charger? How long does it take to charge?
What is max current the phone has drawn/ is capable of charging with?
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Motorola bundles the phone with a 550mA, which makes charging very slow.
Has anybody tried a high power (2A) charger? How long does it take to charge?
What is max current the phone has drawn/ is capable of charging with?
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I have charged with the following charger which was bundled with my HTC Desire back in the day:
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And I believe it is the cause of my phone resetting once per charge, but it still works, and is definitely quicker.
I use a micromax 1amp charger and it charges my moto e in 2 hours 30 mins. Better than the moto charger which takes 4 hours to do so
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I have charged with the following charger which was bundled with my HTC Desire back in the day:
And I believe it is the cause of my phone resetting once per charge, but it still works, and is definitely quicker.
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What is the power output of your charger?
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I use a micromax 1amp charger and it charges my moto e in 2 hours 30 mins. Better than the moto charger which takes 4 hours to do so
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What is the power output of your charger?
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1 amp, by the looks of it.
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I use a micromax 1amp charger and it charges my moto e in 2 hours 30 mins. Better than the moto charger which takes 4 hours to do so
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Have you tried using a higher power charger? 1.5A or 2.1A ?
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Have you tried using a higher power charger? 1.5A or 2.1A ?
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Sorry, but no. I'm just saying that your phone might reboot itself like mine did if you use higher than normal voltage. I haven't 100% confirmed this yet.
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Sorry, but no. I'm just saying that your phone might reboot itself like mine did if you use higher than normal voltage. I haven't 100% confirmed this yet.
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Higher power chargers don't supply higher voltage, unless it's a QC 2/ other proprietary charger, but those require the phone to support it, and will not use high voltage unless the phone requests it.
I was asking about a normal 5V USB charger which is capable of higher current(not voltage).
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Have you tried using a higher power charger? 1.5A or 2.1A ?
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Couldn't do that for now. Will tell you later if i try something like that.
I have an LG 1.8A charger and an iPad 10W 2.1A charger, both basically are capable of fully charging the Moto E in under 1.5 hours (based on a test I did last night after my first rundown).
So yes, having a charger that's capable of supplying more current will most certainly charge the Moto E faster, obviously. And no, this Moto E of mine hasn't suffered from any random full reboots or resets but I've only had it for just over 24 hours, if something does happen I'll report on it.
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I have an LG 1.8A charger and an iPad 10W 2.1A charger, both basically are capable of fully charging the Moto E in under 1.5 hours (based on a test I did last night after my first rundown).
So yes, having a charger that's capable of supplying more current will most certainly charge the Moto E faster, obviously. And no, this Moto E of mine hasn't suffered from any random full reboots or resets but I've only had it for just over 24 hours, if something does happen I'll report on it.
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Under 1.5 hours seems good.
I just tried my Note 3 charger that is 2A. It charged 10% in 15 minutes where as the charger that came with it took 1/2 an hour. I'm glad I stumbled on this thread. I thought the phone just charged slow, and there wasn't anything that can be done. I've cut down charging time in half.
It's basic math in most respects but most folk don't even bother to look at the specs on the factory Moto E charger - the moment I removed it from the box that was the first thing I checked. As soon as I saw the 5V 550mA rating on it the immediate thought was "Ok, that charger is useless and can remain in the box..." which is more or less completely true. The single piece design also sucks for the most part (meaning it's not a separate USB cable and physical charger) - why Motorola took that design and chose that low ass amperage is beyond me but whatever.
I know they've done everything they can to gut the Moto E and keep it as cheap as possible but I mean really, some things are just TOO cheap: it doesn't even have a proper compass which is kinda stupid.
I owned an LG Tribute recently which is a "low end" Sprint/Boost/Virgin Mobile smartphone with a Snapdragon 400 coupled to an 800x480 display and I bought it for $40 brand new (it's a prepaid phone of course) and even THAT cheap low end piece of hardware has a proper working compass in it.
Bleh... I'm getting an LG G4 as soon as they're available with a black front/bezel and the yellow leather cover). I haven't spent full price on a flagship smartphone in many years but I'm sick of the cheap crap anymore, it's about time I got a damned nice device and didn't look back.
br0adband said:
It's basic math in most respects but most folk don't even bother to look at the specs on the factory Moto E charger - the moment I removed it from the box that was the first thing I checked. As soon as I saw the 5V 550mA rating on it the immediate thought was "Ok, that charger is useless and can remain in the box..." which is more or less completely true. The single piece design also sucks for the most part (meaning it's not a separate USB cable and physical charger) - why Motorola took that design and chose that low ass amperage is beyond me but whatever.
I know they've done everything they can to gut the Moto E and keep it as cheap as possible but I mean really, some things are just TOO cheap: it doesn't even have a proper compass which is kinda stupid.
I owned an LG Tribute recently which is a "low end" Sprint/Boost/Virgin Mobile smartphone with a Snapdragon 400 coupled to an 800x480 display and I bought it for $40 brand new (it's a prepaid phone of course) and even THAT cheap low end piece of hardware has a proper working compass in it.
Bleh... I'm getting an LG G4 as soon as they're available with a black front/bezel and the yellow leather cover). I haven't spent full price on a flagship smartphone in many years but I'm sick of the cheap crap anymore, it's about time I got a damned nice device and didn't look back.
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After the acquisition of motorola by lenovo, this brand has became a crap. In India it costs 7000 rupees and they gave a 550 mah charger, Pathetic. A simple usb cable connected to a pc/laptop charges the device with 500 mah power. I too kept my moto charger in the box and started searching for a good replacement.
And good luck for your LG G4
There's a Sony charger for ~500 which is supposed to be good, high current and good quality.
Using more powerful chargers makes a huge difference with the Moto E. My 2.1A charger seemingly charges what feels like three times faster or more. But at what consequence? Perhaps this evasive changing is slowly harming the battery cells. Not my chair, not my problem.
Does anyone have any experience with A Plus products on amazon?
They seem to have a car charger: https://www.amazon.com/Charger-Onep...83&sr=8-1&keywords=oneplus+5+car+dash+charger
and a charging cable: https://www.amazon.com/Oneplus-Cabl...?srs=7297636011&ie=UTF8&qid=1507734706&sr=8-1
I was curious if these are safe for the phone and if they indeed provided dash charging.
No one...?
There is a review on Amazon that states that it does function as far as charging at 3+ amps below 75% charge but no independent verification that the charge rate tapers off as the state of charge exceeds 75% and above. Other eBay sellers are offering the same charger and do indicate that it performs identically to the DASH 1+ branded charger. It is easy enough to verify proper operation by observing the performance with the ampere app though. I saw no reports of obvious failure either. I do not have this charger to actually test so the above is based on what info I could locate with various search terms.
At the price including a DASH cable which is also required for proper functioning it looks like a decent gamble.
Well, The charging tech is supposed to be in the charging brick or the car charger. That's how they get the fast charging with no heat and also charge as fast as when using the device as with the screen off. OnePlus does not release that tech for others to use (their patent I believe) so I do not believe there is anything out there that is truly dash charging. The actual dash car charger is only $30 from OnePlus so for $10 more you get the official one (that's what I did and mine came with the cable too for free). To me it's not worth wasting time and money dealing with claims from amazon sellers.
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There is a review on Amazon that states that it does function as far as charging at 3+ amps below 75% charge but no independent verification that the charge rate tapers off as the state of charge exceeds 75% and above. Other eBay sellers are offering the same charger and do indicate that it performs identically to the DASH 1+ branded charger. It is easy enough to verify proper operation by observing the performance with the ampere app though. I saw no reports of obvious failure either. I do not have this charger to actually test so the above is based on what info I could locate with various search terms.
At the price including a DASH cable which is also required for proper functioning it looks like a decent gamble.
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Thanks for the detailed response, I appreciate it.
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Well, The charging tech is supposed to be in the charging brick or the car charger. That's how they get the fast charging with no heat and also charge as fast as when using the device as with the screen off. OnePlus does not release that tech for others to use (their patent I believe) so I do not believe there is anything out there that is truly dash charging. The actual dash car charger is only $30 from OnePlus so for $10 more you get the official one (that's what I did and mine came with the cable too for free). To me it's not worth wasting time and money dealing with claims from amazon sellers.
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Yeah, that's a good point. If oneplus had their charger listed on amazon with prime shipping, then it would be an easier choice. But if you add $7 for shipping then it's almost $40... Not sure I can justify spending $40 on a car charger.
It seems it´s the same as this in Aliexpress with another brand:
https://m.es.aliexpress.com/s/item/32820037194.html?spm=a2g0n.search-cache.0.0.445b68568daeGp
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These DASH charger technology is an OPPO patent on the VOOC tech. What makes it function as a fixed voltage variable current charger is the feedback loop in the cable which is unique to this charging system. As this tech is still under patent protection I would expect these off brand chargers to function as specified but have yet to see any real proof. There are several chargers that are marked "DASH" and listed as such on eBay. OPPO and OnePlus are using this quick charge system and the other phones are using Q2 or Q3 rapid charge.
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These DASH charger technology is an OPPO patent on the VOOC tech. What makes it function as a fixed voltage variable current charger is the feedback loop in the cable which is unique to this charging system. As this tech is still under patent protection I would expect these off brand chargers to function as specified but have yet to see any real proof. There are several chargers that are marked "DASH" and listed as such on eBay. OPPO and OnePlus are using this quick charge system and the other phones are using Q2 or Q3 rapid charge.
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Well I agreed with you up until you said "I would expect these off brand chargers to function as specified but have yet to see any real proof." I think you meant you WOULDN'T expect. That's because they would have to pay OPPO to use their patent. That would then make those other chargers more expensive.
When you compare the price of the 1+ branded DASH car charger to all of these other knockoffs that claim to function identically then buying one of the knockoff chargers is likely a false economy. Beyond that the charger listed on eBay, from China, was marked on the face DASH and claimed a 5V 3.5A spec. but no actual detailed further info. Several others make the 5V 3.5A claim as well. If OPPO is collecting royalties it has to be minimal. These chargers are at a higher price point than other generic chargers so who really knows. Sooner or later someone will do an in depth review though.
Fast charging lithium batteries is a recent advance and trying to go low cost is not a good idea when dealing with a battery that can combust with no warning.
i don't have the included charger for the V30 but i do have the official charger that came with my old G6 so i use that.
I noticed that when going to the SVC menu and then Battery Information, the High voltage status only shows Q.C 2.0 TA using the G6 charging brick. I then checked on the G6's SVC menu using the same charging brick, cable and outlet, and it shows USB_HVDCP_3 which i think is Q.C. 3.0? Q.C. 3.0 shows up when i search USB_HVDCP_3, correct me if im wrong.
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i don't have the included charger for the V30 but i do have the official charger that came with my old G6 so i use that.
I noticed that when going to the SVC menu and then Battery Information, the High voltage status only shows Q.C 2.0 TA using the G6 charging brick. I then checked on the G6's SVC menu using the same charging brick, cable and outlet, and it shows USB_HVDCP_3 which i think is Q.C. 3.0? Q.C. 3.0 shows up when i search USB_HVDCP_3, correct me if im wrong.
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Luckily certified QuickCharge 3.0 charges are inexpensive. You can get a 3-pack for like $12 with free shipping.
3-Pack CERTIFIED Quick Charge 3.0 USB Wall Charger Adapter,18W
I know your question is why your LG G6 charger doesn't show QC 3.0 on your LG V30. I don't know.
ChazzMatt said:
Luckily certified QuickCharge 3.0 charges are inexpensive. You can get a 3-pack for like $12 with free shipping.
3-Pack CERTIFIED Quick Charge 3.0 USB Wall Charger Adapter,18W
I know your question is why your LG G6 charger doesn't show QC 3.0 on your LG V30. I don't know.
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thanks for the suggestion. is that a trusted brand? i saw some old posts that lg doesn't include QC 3.0 charging bricks with their devices so i was also thinking of buying a new brick.
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thanks for the suggestion. is that a trusted brand? i saw some old posts that lg doesn't include QC 3.0 charging bricks with their devices so i was also thinking of buying a new brick.
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Well, they are certified. (see below) I just bought a 3-pack as I need some more chargers.
However, if you definitely want a "trusted" brand, then go with Anker. I have those also.
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Well, they are certified. (see below) I just bought a 3-pack as I need some more chargers.
However, if you definitely want a "trusted" brand, then go with Anker. I have those also.
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Got them yesterday, they work well.
Bought them for less than $12 ($11.88), with free shipping. Normal price is $12.25. Mine was discounted slightly for purportedly having "damaged" packaging, but I couldn't see any thing wrong. See attached pictures I took.
Great price for THREE compact certified QuickCharge 3.0 wall chargers.
Can you screenshot the charging info just for the record, would like to see that if you can do it and share it here. The *#546368#*998* - Svc Menu - Battery Test - Battery information thing when you have one of those QC3 chargers attached and charging?
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Pretty sure we all know what it looks like but here's mine just in case:
br0adband said:
Can you screenshot the charging info just for the record, would like to see that if you can do it and share it here. The *#546368#*998* - Svc Menu - Battery Test - Battery information thing when you have one of those QC3 chargers attached and charging?
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Pretty sure we all know what it looks like but here's mine just in case:
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That code doesn't work for me, had to use Shortcut Mass to get into hidden menu.
Here's screenshots but I can't explain why it says 2.0.
Tomorrow I'll find one of my other QC 3.0 chargers. That may just be what this phone does.
My apologies, the correct code is:
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Left out a # sign after the code there, sorry.
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ill send a picture shortly. So is it normal for the "charge now raw" to be negative numbers? i get that too with 100% being only in the 500k mark and near 0% at near 3 million.
from my svc menu. and also, i thought the lg v30 battery was li-po but in every picture of the battery and specs i see li-ion
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ill send a picture shortly. So is it normal for the "charge now raw" to be negative numbers? i get that too with 100% being only in the 500k mark and near 0% at near 3 million.
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The numbers aren't particularly meaningful and more to show activity I'd say. Not worth focusing on, the fact is your device is working, it's charging, and that's all that really matters.
No matter the certification, I'd never get one of those funny brands again, it's just a catastrophe waiting to happen. Had it once, it was totally unreliable after a while, you'll probably regret it.
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Can you screenshot the charging info just for the record, would like to see that if you can do it and share it here. The *#546368#*998* - Svc Menu - Battery Test - Battery information thing when you have one of those QC3 chargers attached and charging?
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Pretty sure we all know what it looks like but here's mine just in case:
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Here's my screenshot on my Anker car charger, QuickCharge 3.0. Same battery info in the Hidden Menu.
So, either the Hidden Menu is wrong (maybe never updated for QuickCharge 3.0 readout), or LG V30 only charges at 2.0.
It does make one wonder, hence me asking for a screenshot. I wonder if there's anyone out there with a V30, any model, and a true honest to goodness QC3.0 charger that will be able to provide a screenshot that does actually show - presuming it's not edited - QC3.0 in action on it...
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No matter the certification, I'd never get one of those funny brands again, it's just a catastrophe waiting to happen. Had it once, it was totally unreliable after a while, you'll probably regret it.
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These seem very well made and are probably the exact same chargers Aukey or others sell under their name.
I also found these being sold under another brand name on Amazon -- for $6 more.
They say they are factory direct to the public, so I understand that. Exactly how Asus started. Before Asus became major name brand, they manufactured products Dell and others sold under their brand names -- but Asus was the secret designer/manufacturer.
I see that happen with Qi wireless chargers also. Same design, same hardware, different brand names on Amazon. Why? Because the Chinese factory is the same and different companies are selling the exact same product.
I also saw that with LG Blu-ray players. Same factory that makes LG Blu-ray players also makes the Best Buy "Insignia" Blue-ray players and they're practically identical.
ChazzMatt said:
Here's my screenshot on my Anker car charger, QuickCharge 3.0. Same battery info in the Hidden Menu.
So, either the Hidden Menu is wrong (maybe never updated for QuickCharge 3.0 readout), or LG V30 only charges at 2.0.
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does charging speed feel any different though? if you or anybody have other phones with quick charge 3 it would be nice if we had a comparison with the v30, thanks.
electrical potato said:
does charging speed feel any different though? if you or anybody have other phones with quick charge 3 it would be nice if we had a comparison with the v30, thanks.
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Yes, it does feel faster on 3.0 chargers.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
It also says "QC 2.0TA" when using my Anker PowerPort1+ QC3.0 charger with any of the USB cables I have. Same with the white stock charger. I have an european 930.
Which is a bummer because I ordered this charger mainly to get QC3.0 support. Sadly I have no USB voltmeter on hand to check if the dynamic voltage is used or not.
Using the LG V20 power brick and USB cable.
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Yes, it does feel faster on 3.0 chargers.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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After updating to Pie, this is what shows: