I was on the train today in london, england and I happened to see that the man sitting next to me was holding a phone that for the life of me I have been unable to identify. I know of most popular phones and brands but this one has eluded me. The man was of an oriental persuasion and was in his 20's so this may be a phone from an eastern manufacturer that no one has heard of over hear as they are a lot of oriental students in this area?. The first thing that caught my eye was that the phone was running android N 7.0 (I assume one of the developer builds) However he was not on a nexus device. Bear in mind that on the day of this post Android N 7.0 has not yet been released?. If any one can help identify this phone then please reply as this has been bugging me ever since here are all of the phone details I was able to see.
- It had a full metal body
- 2.5D glass screen between 5.5"-5.7"
- Rear mounted circular fingerprint sensor
- Cameras in the top corner of back and front (so not in the middle like a samsung or LG phone more like iphones positioning for camera)
- USB type C port
- Dual speaker grills flanking the USB C port on the bottom which were not machined into the body (like on the HTC 10) but rather had slits cut out for them and they sat slightly recessed into the frame behind a mesh
- On screen navigation keys
- Stock android 7.0 N
- It seemed to have rather apparent chamfers on the metal housing of the phone similar to the HTC 10 (but this was not the HTC 10) and given the rumors of the HTC nexus (sailfish) coming soon I found this design choice interesting?
- The phone also had antena lines in a similar place to those on the nexus 6P but this phone did not have the black visor for the camera module that the 6P has.
- I could not see a logo on the back of the phone as it had a plain black case on it which makes me think that this is unlikely to be an unreleased phone if there are cases for it? unless this is covering a logo perhaps?
And a logo on the bottom of the screen under the glass (where capacitive buttons would be) That I have tried to replicate below as it was not made from the alphabet. (the logo was a lower case t a backwards capital C and a backwards S that was broken in two halves horizontally and was in a very square and srap corner font)
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This was definitely not a nexus device at least none that I know of. It could be a nexus device that has not been released as I cannot find any other devices that run stock android 7.0 as of this date and have this design? however the logo on the bottom of the screen seems to imply otherwise.
Please let me know if you have any ideas of what this phone is. thanks,
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I was wondering if anyone else had this "issue" (depends if anyone else has it...or if it's just me - needing to exchange it). On the top of the screen/glass, there's a gap between it and the rest of the phone. I feel that this area can fill up with dust, etc. Worse case scenario...dust goes other places (under the screen?). Is this normal? Does everyone have this gap - it's <0.5mm. But it definitely (potentially subjective) exposes the stuff under the screen...
Yes, considering the way you described it, this is normal. Not a defect of the device you got. Engadget brought it up when they did their review:
One characteristic that we've noticed on a number of other phones in the past year that we miss here is the gapless display, a display so close to the glass that it appears to be on the surface of the phone itself (in fact, it's so cool that Sony Ericsson actively markets it as a feature of the Xperia Arc). Well, there's definitely a noticeable gap on the Thunderbolt, but it's a purely aesthetic complaint -- there's zero effect on capability or usability whatsoever -- it's just fun to hold your phone at an angle once in a while and say, "wow."
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/18/htc-thunderbolt-review/
So overall issues we need Malata engineers to solve (Both me and David from XDA client found this issues, Means all T8s suffering from it with the Stock kernel/rom):
1) CPU max speed 750Mhz instead 1Ghz as promised.
2) Touch sensitivity unresponsive/Bad response in following cases:
A. if the T8 on table/couch and only one hand touching the screen but not touching the plastic parts around the screen..
B. Power plug not connected and the device on a desk/couch (not in hands).
3) Screen sensitive working good in following cases:
A. Power plugged (AC).
B. You hold T8 in one hand and second hand touching the screen
C. You put T8 on electric magnet device like metal laptop (macbook)
D. Touching some of the around the screen parts same time while you touch the screen it self. As long as you keep it plugged OR touch some thing around the screen OR hand the T8 in your hands OR all together/both the touch sense is PERFECT
4) Another problem is 3G/Wifi very low reception in many cases while other devices reaching it very good in same place, same time (bad radio kernel, need update by Malata).
5) One more concern, I had to remove the Screen protector delivered me in order to be able somehow use the top corner of the screen touch while its not plugged to power and while its not in my hands. So I need now new screen protector which won't make this problem. But thats I will buy a new one... The mostly concerning problems are 1-3 which Malata needs fix by kernel/touch drivers update otherwise its a major problem for such expensive device....
Waiting on your feedback.
PS: My guess... New ROM like 2.3.4 or 3.0 means also new kernel and probably new radio rom with better drivers which can fix most or all this problems.... I think this is something that Malata and/or Android developer can help with..
PS: I know that's sounds like a mess. But overall not to bad. Without the screen protector and even on table everything still pretty much responsive just need slight press during the touch especially in the top and footer corners....
While in hands or with AC plugged...sensitive level real good!
The device is slick..well built feels real solid and screen picture quality I think even better then ipad....
Hi, I dropped the phone (it fell from my pocket when I was sitting on the bench in the gym changing room) from circa 30 cm height and looked at the phone and everything was ok - from such a small drop, no wonder.
But by the time I got home I saw a crack forming from the side of impact (the phone dropped "on its feet" - hitting the frame) which went all the way to the opposite side of the frame. It stopped there of course and now I have a screen split in two by the crack running all the way from bottom to the top.
It is visible only when looking at an angle with light background on the screen, but I do not want a crack in the glass.
What are the options here? Where to repair it (preferably in the UK)? How much?
Or is it better to sell it to one the fellows here who bricked their phones (I read so many threads about this here lately)?
Any input is appreciated :fingers-crossed:
the screen works perfectly - it it just the look that is bothering me
I'm in the same position and the device is working fine. As long it isn't visible and everything is ok, why spend a lot of money?
But if you still want to change it, here it is a guide and in OP signature a site where you can buy the kit:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1582414&highlight=replace+screen
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Hi, I dropped the phone (it fell from my pocket when I was sitting on the bench in the gym changing room) from circa 30 cm height and looked at the phone and everything was ok - from such a small drop, no wonder.
But by the time I got home I saw a crack forming from the side of impact (the phone dropped "on its feet" - hitting the frame) which went all the way to the opposite side of the frame. It stopped there of course and now I have a screen split in two by the crack running all the way from bottom to the top.
It is visible only when looking at an angle with light background on the screen, but I do not want a crack in the glass.
What are the options here? Where to repair it (preferably in the UK)? How much?
Or is it better to sell it to one the fellows here who bricked their phones (I read so many threads about this here lately)?
Any input is appreciated :fingers-crossed:
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I had the same problem like you. But I had to change the glass / display (they're the same) in the day that my screen stopped working. I bought a new one here in Brazil for R$600,00... that's like aproximatelly US$300,00...
I just figured I'd make this to get a sense of other people's experience in this regard. This is my first HTC phone after three Samsungs in a row so I don't really know what to expect, in addition I understand the risks of being an early adopter.
My phone doesn't have any scratches or discoloration as I've seen mentioned elsewhere. However I have noticed that the top and bottom edges of the screen are not flush with the pieces used for the speaker grilles, to the point where I can feel the edge of the glass swiping down. Also, I didn't have much chance to look at it before the SD card was inserted, but tray for it does not fit perfectly flush with the outside of the phone once it's in. Minor gripes, otherwise this is the best phone I've owned and has no functional issues. I was just wondering whether this is within spec and just something people accept, or whether this one is worth replacing while I can still do it.
Any feedback is appreciated.
Mine has the same issue with the speaker grill at the top. I can push it down and it'll stay flush for 12 hours or so before I have to do it again. I don't know if I care enough or not to have it exchanged.
Tipo, these minor issues seem typical with HTC phones but fortunately in my case they don't affect function. My first HTC One M7 was a stealth black version and there were two visible areas on the lower speaker grill where I could see they applied some black touch up paint to cover up what were probably nicks that occurred sometime during assembly. it was a shame and i noticed them right away because I happened to be outside when the phone arrived and I opened it up in my screened patio. the sun's light made the paint more visible because indoors it wasn't noticable. Not a big deal because they were so small. I still have the phone today and it works as well as day one.
My second One was an M8 that I received earlier in the week. I noticed the volume rocker didn't sit parallel to the side of the phone and also the top and bottom speaker grills didn't sit flush with the phone. Not a big deal to me but when i made my first call, using speaker phone, the top speaker made a loud electrical crackling sound on every ring. Then when people were speaking, that same top speaker would emit the same crackling sound. I could avoid it by turning the volume down to about 75% but then it was a bit harder to hear. I took it to the AT&T store, tested their display unit and found that the display unit didn't do that. Store manager listened and agreed it was definitely a defect.
Today I received my replacement M8 and the speakers work fine. Fit and finish? Top grill is perfectly flush, bottom grill not flush. Power button is flush on it's right side and sits at proper height on the left side (which is where the IR blaster is.) Because of my experience with my other HTCs I'm keeping this one unless some other functional defect comes up which I'm not expecting. Years ago this may have bothered me but now I appreciate the function of a device much more than it's actual form..but of course I still appreciate form else I wouldn't have gone with the M8. Plus I'll likely put this in a case since I expect to keep it for a long time.
Sad to hear that this can still be happening. I had three m7s with fit finish issues.
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Sad to hear that this can still be happening. I had three m7s with fit finish issues.
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Yes I agree that it is sad but only because they are marketing these phones to people who care about quality. I admire HTC's efforts in designing and building something high quality because from my limited experience the only other manufacturers who care about this are Sony and Apple. Don't get me wrong, I think pretty much all smartphones are very good smartphones these days much like cars. But when we talk about a premium products some of there are two types of buyers: a) those who buy this stuff to show off but don't really know why it's better than more pedestrian competition and likely wouldn't use these products to their potential and b) those who demand premium build because of their discerning taste and requirement for a certain level of performance/durability. Nothing wrong with being in either camp but folks in category b may end up disappointed with some of these little quality issues in the M8 that the folks in category a would never notice or care about.
Before my M7, which was my first anroid device, I owned two iPhones and before that a Samsung Blackjack. There were no cosmetic defects or blemishes with any of those handsets, including the 3 iphones that my wife and daughter purchased as well. Sure it's a small sample but the build quality and consistency was second to none with those handsets, even though I wouldn't consider the Blackjack a premium product.
Enjoy your M8s people, they're fantastic phones and I feel a worthy upgrade to the M7. The swiping gestures alone seem worth jumping to the M8.
Here's a light review of the phone from Clove:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbFeUoVyT9Q&feature=youtu.be
Preorders up today as well.
Unboxing vid. Looks like they went with a nicer packaging this time.
VS. an iPhone 6 vid
VS. the Z5 Compact vid
i have bought yesterday the white x compact. unfortunately its a bit larger than the z3c. well im a bit disappointed but not because of the sd 650. the performance is quite good. its definately responsive and quick for a compact. but the bezel on the bottom is bigger than at the top. looks like a design fail. vibration motor is veeery strange imo. at start you dont feel him when typing but the faster you type the more the motor is vibrating. this behavior is very hard to accept. maybe for some people a minor thing but for me when i got used to my z3c this not ok. the whole left side beside the display has a gap between display and frame. on the right side there is no gap. dust and dirt wil again find a nice place there. this was the reason why i have replaced my white z3c with a black one after the motherboard was dead on the white one. it seems sony has not learned from their mistakes. fingerprint button has also gaps and looks like a bit deplaced but works very well. on the back side there you have gaps on top and bottom. i really do not understand sony. this phone costs 450€ and it seems they have no QA before packaging. camerawise i can see some improvements. focus is much faster than z3c. but the camera quality nowhere comparable to a galaxy s7. its ok but not that i would say wow. front cam is better than z3c. no softskin blur effect more but when it gets dark the front cam is not very good. generally i was expecting more from sonys camera system.
the best thing at this phone is the display. the black values and color reproduction is very good. looks like amoled but is probably a very good ips. but i think its displaying to much red. adjusting whitebalance helps. generally much better than z3c. due to the 2D glass curves it seems that display is almost printed regardless the 720p.
but there is also somehting that is causing me headache with the display. it seems that due to the curved glas the letter "P" is sometimes not very responsive. especially if you are trying to hit the letter from the right side throught the curved area of the display. from top no prob but from the side its sometimes not reacting. tested with google keyboard.
loudspeakers are a bit louder probably due to the lack of water resistance. they sound better.
the phone goes back as i have got massively used to have root. i'm still on kitkat with root and xposed and several changes through xposed. loosing all this to a non perfect phone makes no sense for 450€.
the biggest problem is that there are no smartphones at 4,6inch with good quality anymore. i was even thinking about iphone but no thanks. i dont want to be a slave of itunes and pay more than 750€ for a phone. SE is too small. z5c is overheating, bulky & too rectangle. A3 2016 is 4,7inch and therefor longer. could be ok. BUT it has no fuc*** notification LED. major fail by samsung as this is inacceptable in 2016. but generally the build quality by samsung has raised. the galaxy s7 in a size of 4,6inch would be perfect. im remembering the times with my galaxy s1. fantastic phone and it was undestroyable. well if you have any questions you can ask me until i have still the phone. currently im thinking of testing an s7. but i hate to to do strange things with my thumb just to be able to reach the back button on the bottom of the phone. the s4 mini was perfect size.
So you are returning the phone?
I will give this phone a try but your build quality comments concern me. I should have it this week, so I'm hoping I get a good one. Does the plastic, glossy shell feel as cheap as it looks?
True, it's sad that these phones are the only game in the 4.6" size. I kinda don't consider the 4.6" iPhone in this size class because its just as big as a 5" screen phone because of the home button. I'm hoping Samsung comes out with an S7 mini which I would get in a heartbeat.
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So you are returning the phone?
I will give this phone a try but your build quality comments concern me. I should have it this week, so I'm hoping I get a good one. Does the plastic, glossy shell feel as cheap as it looks?
True, it's sad that these phones are the only game in the 4.6" size. I kinda don't consider the 4.6" iPhone in this size class because its just as big as a 5" screen phone because of the home button. I'm hoping Samsung comes out with an S7 mini which I would get in a heartbeat.
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try it. the plastic glossy shell is not the problem. its nice to look at, looks a bit like ceramic and not so slippery as i thought but the build quality is again not the best. i hate the unsymetric gaps between frame. they just cant place the display equally into the frame. on the black (which is not true black, its more dark blue) you wont see them so much as on the white one.
i was hoping for a s7mini but it seems that samsung has changed the mini series into the A3 line which is really sad unfortunately in the stores theres always the anti thief thing on the back which prevents to get true feeling of the normal S7. i need to test if a S7 would somehow be operational with one hand for me. but i dont think so. :/
the display of my z3c is peeling of on the top left edge which was the reason iw as looking for a different phone. i need to repair this. sony would need to much time for this.
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..vibration motor is veeery strange imo. at start you dont feel him when typing but the faster you type the more the motor is vibrating. this behavior is very hard to accept...
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i didn't realize that with swift key. but you are right. if you set to system vibration you have that issue. but me, i am using swift key where you can set you individual vibration duration and that works like a charm.
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the whole left side beside the display has a gap between display and frame. on the right side there is no gap...
fingerprint button has also gaps and looks like a bit deplaced...
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on my xxc the gaps are all the same size and nothing is deplaced.
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..but there is also somehting that is causing me headache with the display. it seems that due to the curved glas the letter "P" is sometimes not very responsive. especially if you are trying to hit the letter from the right side throught the curved area of the display. from top no prob but from the side its sometimes not reacting. tested with google keyboard.
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can't confirm that too.
the 'p' works just fine. (swift key)
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the phone goes back as i have got massively used to have root. i'm still on kitkat with root and xposed and several changes through xposed. loosing all this to a non perfect phone makes no sense for 450€.
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i hope, root is just a question of time. i hope very soon. can't wait for it to make all my customisations i am used to.
i found a way posted here but its written so weird. i dont know if its reliable.
http://www.sadroid.com/root-sony-xperia-x-compact-5-minutes/
the individual vibration is the same. the often and quicker you are pressing a button the more the motor of the vibrator gets crazy. sound like a bee on Speed.
You must try to press the letter p probably from the right side. a bit through the curved glass. the galaxy s7 and z3 compact touchscreen is much more responsive and sensitive. for me it was often not reacting when i was not thinking to touch more precisely in the middle of the letter P. maybe a defect on my device but i think the whole touchscreen production will be affected by this. i have tested the Xperia X and it has the same behavior. i will have to test another device in store if this is the case there as well.
this website is untrusted. dont download anything from that. you will get a virus. nothing else. when a root is availbale someone will for sure post it here first. but i doubt that it will be soon. x compact has not the best specs. all the famous and talented devs have other phones currently. xxz0o was the person that developed a root for z3c after half a year i think.
ok. now i found the issue with the vibration. your duration seems to be set pretty long. i set it to 35ms and that works absolutely fine. but if you set it to f.e. 60ms you have that issue. but why would you like to have it that long?
i mean its obvious that it can be a prob. if your next press is in the range of the 60ms there is no other way for the phone to vibrate permanently. are other phones adjusting the vibration if you press faster than the setted duration?
but i am a slow writer. maybe i will never understand that problem. i just found that issue while pressing complete randomly on the keyboard. i could never write that fast.
jeah, as i thaught. the page is very weird. i would also only try a root from a page i know pretty good.
ohh. half a year? thats sad. but hope never dies.
i like the phone. maybe there are some others
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try it. the plastic glossy shell is not the problem. its nice to look at, looks a bit like ceramic and not so slippery as i thought but the build quality is again not the best. i hate the unsymetric gaps between frame. they just cant place the display equally into the frame. on the black (which is not true black, its more dark blue) you wont see them so much as on the white one.
i was hoping for a s7mini but it seems that samsung has changed the mini series into the A3 line which is really sad unfortunately in the stores theres always the anti thief thing on the back which prevents to get true feeling of the normal S7. i need to test if a S7 would somehow be operational with one hand for me. but i dont think so. :/
the display of my z3c is peeling of on the top left edge which was the reason iw as looking for a different phone. i need to repair this. sony would need to much time for this.
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The S7 mini would be perfect, but it will never be created. The S7 is about the same size as the iPhone 6, so if any of your friends have one, just try using it and you'll quickly realize how much harder it is to reach the top of the phone with your thumb. I'm sticking with my Z3C for another year to see if anyone (not just Sony) releases a 4.5-4.7" flagship device. The XC just doesn't meet my expectations for an "upgrade".
Phone Arena review:
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xperia-X-Compact-Review_id4256
The AndroidCentral Review is up, one note the lack of a fingerprint scanner is US only, the rest of the world has the fingerprint scanner available!
http://m.androidcentral.com/sony-xperia-x-compact
All of these first reviews to be released seem to be very shallow in depth. They don't go into any real analysis of the phone and use very general statements to describe the user experience. In fact, these read more like unboxings than actual reviews. There's a lot of talk about what the phone looks like, the specs it comes with, and way too much of it sounds like they're reading a press release. If I was in the market for a new device. I'd wait another month for real reviews to be released.
Android Authority review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uullDQFq5W0
I sure do not have those build quality issues. gaps?! display is dead flush, heck everything is. I am very impressed with the build quality, very sturdy. I do not have trouble with coming in from the right and typing 'p' either, but if you display is not flush it would probably influence it. I am more than sure you were unlucky and got a bad apple (heh). as for the key vibration issue; if you type faster than the vibration delay is set, you are of cause going to have it vibrate all the time while typing, odd btw that you guys was set to 60ms mine was set to 25ms as default.
Hey everyone, just wanted some feedback regarding an issue I began having this week with my X Compact.
Issue: The phone is not as responsive during the unlocking process as it once was. I used to simply swipe to unlock and the phone would immediately unlock with a simple swiping motion. Now, the phone requires a harder swipe before it unlocks.
Any ideas?