i found a qi charging reciever that delivers a 1000ma output which i suppose will work.
it shows a height on the pad to be about 9mm.
does anyone have any experience using the wireless chargers with this phone?
i know i can build a dock pretty easily, so building a receiver might not be that hard either, but id rather modify something that works already and then reverse engineer from there.
The receivers are generic now and can be found for under $10. It looks like the G4 Plus is an ideal candidate for one since the back cover pops off and also the MicroUSB port is right at the edge of the cover. I've seen someone post a video on YouTube of a G4 Plus with one of these installed.
The 2 concerns I have:
- In the YouTube video the person showed that the back cover didn't close 100% near the MicroUSB port. I imagine this might differ between receivers and could be worked around by using a knife and making the opening around the MicroUSB a hint bigger. It is just the back cover after all... easily replaced.
- When you have one of these plugged in, it occupies the MicroUSB port, which means no more Turbo Charging or PC access without a hassle. Since I would like to retain those features and also since I have backed ZNAPS on kickstarter, this is a deal breaker for me.
I plan to get one of these and solder it to the internal side of the MicroUSB port. That works around both of my concerns (but would void warranty).
I have one of those receiving adapters in my drawer, and two Qi chargers, from my previous phone. Wasted money.
The receiver gets hot while delivering the charging current. They are installed on top of the battery - battery that gets hot anyway during charging.
Cumulative heating effect will lead to shorter battery life span or even worse (fires).
In my experience the G4 Plus gets a lot less warm than most others when charging (and in general) so I'm not too worried about that. In my case the wireless charger would really only be used to maintain 100% while working.
had a qi receiver still lying around and just tried this. Works well and the battery case doesn't stick up any more than without the pad. the flat ribbon cable fits right under the case. I cut away the bulky side edges of the plug itself to make it as small as possible. Charging works. I have not tested how fast it is and how warm it gets. Over the period of 15min it didn't get warm at all, but I'm sure that charging is slow.
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I have tested several Wireless chargers for my N4 and S7 Edge and Nexus 7, some dose get warmer than others..
So an important thing is to get the right charger or a fan by your charger if you are councered. Otherwize i love WC and have orderd a WC reciver for my G4 plus.
But All phones do get a bit warmer with WC. ..
Samsungs fast WC have a built in fan. I dont use any phones without WC now a days, once you get use to it its great.
derausgewanderte said:
had a qi receiver still lying around and just tried this. Works well and the battery case doesn't stick up any more than without the pad. the flat ribbon cable fits right under the case. I cut away the bulky side edges of the plug itself to make it as small as possible. Charging works. I have not tested how fast it is and how warm it gets. Over the period of 15min it didn't get warm at all, but I'm sure that charging is slow.
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How much time it takes to have a full charge ?
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How much time it takes to have a full charge ?
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Sorry, only saw this now. Too slow compared to a regular charger. Maybe it was intermittently charging. I gave up on it. No overheating though.
derausgewanderte said:
Sorry, only saw this now. Too slow compared to a regular charger. Maybe it was intermittently charging. I gave up on it. No overheating though.
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i use something like this to protect my usb port.not wireless but ok ° magnet
https://www.amazon.de/ELEGIANT-Ladekabel-Charger-Netzteil-Motorola/dp/B00R7VYXH6
Hi there!
I am planing to solder this pas directly to the battery cord.
Do you think it will work well? Or do i brick my phone?
As you can see, i removed the plastic cover. So i can replace the battery without anny tool in the future (swaped the old battery with an fresh original one).
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OK so I got this at my BBY.
Callpod FuelTank UNO
It works pretty darn good (especially with the HTC adapter that has ports for charging,3.5mm,2.5mm)...I stream from Flycast and Pandora almost 90% of the time in the car so battery drains pretty fast on 3G).
My battery doesnt dip below 93-95%.
SO my question is, will using this HURT the G1 in any way? And if anyone else has tried it....I paid $40 for it....it was this or the USB PowerStick.
jaboswell said:
OK so I got this at my BBY.
Callpod FuelTank UNO
It works pretty darn good (especially with the HTC adapter that has ports for charging,3.5mm,2.5mm)...I stream from Flycast and Pandora almost 90% of the time in the car so battery drains pretty fast on 3G).
My battery doesnt dip below 93-95%.
SO my question is, will using this HURT the G1 in any way? And if anyone else has tried it....I paid $40 for it....it was this or the USB PowerStick.
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I had $50 of best buy money got it one for $40. Completely solves battery problem without ever having to buy a new extended battery w/ larger cover. I doubt it will damage the phone. I've used it so far and nothing has happened. It's probably the same as buying a non standard wall charger, yeah there is a small risk but nothing is likely to ever happen.
I HIGHLY recommend one to solve the battery issue on G1. It is easily the best purchase I've made in years at Best Buy. (I never buy anything at best buy their products suck) It can charge the phone ~3 times for one Call Pod Uno Charge. Call Pod charges rather quickly in 2-3 hours. The call pod Uno is the exact same size as a G1 in height and thickness, I consider that rather small for the boost it gives. It can fit in a pocket if you had to since its the same size as a g1 phone, but you probably wouldn't want to on a regular basis. The Call Pod Uno has a feature that will tell you how much charge it has left by indicator lights that light up, and it will shutdown automatically when nothing is charging in it. It comes with a dongle cable to charge an Iphone or G1, and you get one free cable for any other device from their website with a redeemable coupon.
My only annoyance so far is that the cables they give you are somewhat short so you can't twist the Call Pod around and maneuver it to a better position when charging. Also the cables seem cheap. Finally, don't look at the picture on the box it looks nothing like what the actual product looks like. The picture makes it look black it's silver and the lights aren't as intense as the picture makes it seem. If the color was black and not silver it would be better. Also, the case it comes with sucks.
Think about it though an Iphone charger alone is ~$20 and an g1 charger is too. This includes a g1 charger and the battery and the dongles for only $40. Although it's expensive you get your moneys worth if you think about it that way.
Here:
Pic when you hit button to light it up to see charge two lights indicate half charge.
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Yup...thats it!!!!
The pouch is pretty, well, weird, to me. Wish I had it close by to take a pic of it.....
I did notice on mine the cable says TOP on the head of it, but you plug it in with TOP facing the bottom....this makes my G1 sit face up and the Fueltank back up...
Where do I buy one?
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Where do I buy one?
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Well if you read above. Bestbuy.
Well I will be returning mine, possibly exchange it but not sure, maybe just get my money back...looking up reviews now....
Today i had it plugged in and removed the plug, put the Callpod in my cup holder, than noticed that the connection on the phone was a bit off center, just enough to where the connection wont go in so i can power the phone.
i eventually knocked it (by tapping the unit on my hand) back into place, i can hear a piece of broken plastic moving around inside...it will charge the phone still but if you just touch it it will turn on and off repeatedly..
hopefully its just a faulty unit ( Like i said before, i did notice that the connection was in upside down).
Hope Best Buy has a good return policy because I cant find my receipt.
I would perfer something like this, but as a holster.
I posted a thread a while ago (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=554057) about it but I guess it lost its popularity. It's basically the same thing only it's also a holster as well that clips onto your belt or whatever. Pretty neat idea I think.
i like this i saw it on a friends iphone and think it would really cool to have 1 for our phones i vote on it
Just finished the Sony Ericsson Xperia RAY induction wireless charging mod
http://www.pbase.com/xperia_mods/xperia_ray_induction_charging_mod
All you need is about 15$ to order "Palm Touchstone" kit on e-bay, a bit of adhesive copper foil and
2 ohm SMD (1/8 or 1/4w) resistor is needed to balance on peak. Will not work without it.
Great mod indeed. thanks
i think this is similar to this:
http://www.letstalk.com/blog/post.htm?blogId=1214
right?
mclaudio said:
i think this is similar to this:
http://www.letstalk.com/blog/post.htm?blogId=1214
right?
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yes. I't like to pay 39.99 for this magic battery and skip doing this tedious reverse engendering.
But this Powermat was still not out in the market of more then few phone models. In this 2010 video they'd planed to integrate induction coil into the battery. The idea with the battery replacement was great but still not commercially available. I suspect in reality it was tricky to make it work and it will reduce the battery capacity (as some battery room will be taken by induction coil and charging control circuit). Also Li-Ion battery can blow up or ignite when overheated or shortened. I guess they don't want to take this extra responsibility. So they roll back to selling Battery Doors & special bulky cases with induction coils. The need to integrate it into the heart of the phone (as we do with soldering + wire to the usb plug) prevents them to apply it to more phone models.
But your question can lead to a new great mod.
We can use this "Battery Door for BlackBerry Curve 8300" for just $4.78 or this and integrate it into the Xperia. However solution will be more expensive (due to mat costs) to that with PALM, we might skip ripping the phone, soldering and voiding the warranty.
If somebody will donate me this receiver door and the mat i'd try to do for him...
so you think we can have a wireless adapter for our mini pro?
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so you think we can have a wireless adapter for our mini pro?
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I need to see it. I used to have x10 mini and the back of it was not flat. So it can prevent proper contact of coils. mini pro is a bit flatter. i need to hold it and Palm or Powermat coils in my hands to confirm
i had x10mini also.
unfurtenully i cannot donate you the material but i want so much wireless charging.
in alternative i have an idea:
maybe its possible to attach something to the battery to use duracell inductive charging mat no?
mclaudio said:
i had x10mini also.
maybe its possible to attach something to the battery to use duracell inductive charging mat no?
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all this inductive charging works on the same principal
you need coil + mini controller + tiny align magnets on both sides.
unfortunately you can't connect it directly to the battery as li-on/li-pol battery are not that easy to charge and phone should control the charging process.
So you need to connect it to usb charging.
Maybe you can use something like this that connects to micro usb plug:
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(•͡˘˛˘ •͡)" hmm ◦°◦ºº ◦°◦ºº...
Did somebody else perform this?
I would like to try this on SK17 but I was thinking of using the non soldering method.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/verizon-galaxy-nexus-accessories/147840-guide-galaxy-nexus-mod-palm-touchstone-without-soldering.html
Just need to find out if there is any point with VCC and GND that might be used.
I will order the touchdown and try this when I have the time
Question on the resistor
Hey There, im currently based in HK and im struggling to track down where i can get a 2ohm SMD resistor (is it 2 omh or 2k ohm??), Could you link me to a site i could buy them from i have tried Google but no luck on just getting a few. Would very much appreciate it.
Cheers,
Paddy
nice i try it too.
would love to see this on mini pro
Great stuff! Will be trying this.
Anyone purchase a desktop dock for now while we wait for the charging issues to be resolved? Any recommendations?
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Anyone purchase a desktop dock for now while we wait for the charging issues to be resolved? Any recommendations?
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Was looking at this but havent pulled the trigger
http://www.ebay.com/itm/22145620896...49&var=520325129936&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
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Was looking at this but havent pulled the trigger
http://www.ebay.com/itm/22145620896...49&var=520325129936&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
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I tried that one for my GS 3 and I remember if you don't place the phone directly on the connector perfectly, it would scratch the hell out of it. You have to line it up perfectly. Instead I went w/ a Zenis dock. Can't find it for the G3
I'm thinking about this but not sure if it'll fit even the slimmest case:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/EEEKit-3in1...S_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item2a406d698c
I use the Nokia DT-910, charges great, have one on my work desk and my night stand, been using them since the HTC DNA.
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I also modded a Nokia DT-900 to be a charging car dock.
And, the LG spare battery charger works as a stand, maybe even with a slim case, but not with my Otterbox Symmetry.
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I'm thinking about this but not sure if it'll fit even the slimmest case:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/EEEKit-3in1...S_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item2a406d698c
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I got this one. It has an adapter that you can remove that lets you use a 'slim' case in the dock. I'm currently using the CruzerLite Bugdroid case and it fits just fine. If you keep the adapter in then it fits the G3 without a case.
The base is rather stable. There is some weight to it that keeps it from tipping over, but it does have a wobble if you try to tip it yourself. Also, if you're charging an extra battery while the device is docked, it's not enough power to charge both devices. I think the extra battery takes priority because with both in it, the phone slowly loses a charge even though it has a charging symbol/
I am rather please with it, I just use the LG extra battery charger instead of using this to do it
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I also modded a Nokia DT-900 to be a charging car dock.
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Does this modded DT-900 give enough juice to run the GPS and still charge on the go? I want to do the same type of setup for my car.
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Does this modded DT-900 give enough juice to run the GPS and still charge on the go? I want to do the same type of setup for my car.
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It's fine as long as your screen brightness isn't turned all the way up. I also don't run my GPS solid. I check it to confirm my route, then I'll start it up again when I get close.
Wireless charging isn't as fast as wired, and there is some heat generation, so if your screen's on while it's charging and running GPS, it will be getting pretty warm.
Enddo said:
I got this one. It has an adapter that you can remove that lets you use a 'slim' case in the dock. I'm currently using the CruzerLite Bugdroid case and it fits just fine. If you keep the adapter in then it fits the G3 without a case.
The base is rather stable. There is some weight to it that keeps it from tipping over, but it does have a wobble if you try to tip it yourself. Also, if you're charging an extra battery while the device is docked, it's not enough power to charge both devices. I think the extra battery takes priority because with both in it, the phone slowly loses a charge even though it has a charging symbol/
I am rather please with it, I just use the LG extra battery charger instead of using this to do it
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I'm guessing this would depend on the adapter you are using with it. My guess would be a higher amperage adapter would be able to charge both.
I got this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251590336467?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Great quality material and looks nice. Has a green light when connected. Also has on OTG capabilities.
Also comes with a 120cm data cable.
I got my two docking stations the other day, but I don't have my G3 yet, so I can't tell how nice it fits.
Tried my brother's Galaxy S4 and it fits it perfectly and charges at a 1700 MAH.
If you are looking for a dock that will use usb cable, I would highly recommend keeping an eye for this one
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/957745871/arq-apple-or-android-iphone-6-5s-5c-5-ipad-s4-s5-n
Unfortunately they are sold out at the moment. I was a supporter so I received my Arc last week. I can finally say I found a dock that can be used with just about any case. I actually picked this up for use with my LG G Pad, but works just as well with the G3. (Using Qi with the G3, so this will primarily be for my G Pad). The back / pins are easily adjustable, as well as the usb cable, so it will indeed fit any case out there. Only thing is you would need to readjust if changing cases often. Again, works well. Keep an eye out for when they are publicly available.
Following a post on G+ about getting wireless charging on TS https://plus.google.com/u/0/113668328412632358673/posts/AAQL8jJUdfm, I decided to record my investigations in this area.
I'll map my thoughts and experiences as I go - at the moment, I dont have wireless charging, and the final outcome may be naff, but it might inspire others.
Indeed, I couldnt even get my TS to charge outside of the cradle (documented in the post entitled SUUNTO charger), nonetheless, lets persevere.
Some things needed -
QI wireless charging base = transmitter.
QI wireless foil = receiver. This is can be got on eBay or Amazon, and is the bit that provided power to your battery. There are several sizes (mostly for branded phones) and typically fit inside a phones case, or behind the back if the phone has a removable back. You need to find the smallest available that will deliver 500mA at 5V. The ones Ive obtained so far are too big, and I may end up trimming the non-functional area to get it to fit.
Some clever way of attaching the receiver to the TS or cradle (WIP) - its possible to solder the receiver to either the TS or cradle, but we need to keep it detachable so the USB port can be used.
Some observations -
Because the TS cant lie flat, due to the wrist strap/band holding antennas not flexing horizontally, having the ability to just place the TS on a charging plate may be a non starter. [Maybe we could tolerate the foil flapping open, or being hinged to 180 degrees when charging].
As the TS has an Alu or steel back, thus creating wireless interference or insulation, having the receiver inside the TS may be a non starter.
Before I go down the route of trying to get a receiver behind inside the TS itself, (which would entail opening it up and voiding the warranty ) Im going to look at getting it to work via the charging cradle.
The inside of the cradle offers more space to get a receiver foil in, looks as though it could be done without serious soldering work or permanent damage. However, the only advantage is that it only dispenses with the USB cable - the TS still has to be placed inside the cradle.
The attached pics show the cradle components.
More posts to come later, reserving a few spots below for updates.
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This picture shows the underside of the USB connector. It appears there are two resistors (the tiny rectangle surface mount components) - I guess these are creating a voltage divider to put +2.8V and +2.1V to the centre two pins. This doesnt seem to materially affect just applying 0v and +5V to the outer two though.
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Prototypes
What Im doing isnt really rocket science - Im just plugging in QI receivers to the TS. This successfully chargers the TS wirelessly, but as you can see, is not practical.
Hopefully I can find a way of making this neat, but I fear that, as I mentioned before, because the strap doesnt bend, you cant lay the TS flat.
Giving Up
With some judicious trimming of the receiver foil (after separating the liner), I was able to get it to fit inside the TS cradle.
However, the thickness of the plastic of the cradle base means the charging current wont reach the receiver. I even shaved off some of the extraneous mouldings on the base to try and get the receiver closer. I think if I persevered, and scraped into the base itself, it might work. With the extra moulding removed, I sometime get a hint of a blue charging light on my ZENS charging pad, but it never sticks.
If I could get this working, I would be faced with the last hurdle, which I fear is unsurmountable - the inability of the strap to bend. I would need a charging 'block' rather than a pad. Something that was less than 45mm between the straps. From what I can find, there aren't any; the smallest (without too much searching admittedly) was 90mm.
So this, and the fact that I couldn't find a foil small enough to go inside the TS itself, plus the TS case having the same interference problem as the cradle, means Im going to stop here.
It was a small, fun, diversion, and it would have been nice to get it working, but the retail products, and my engineering/manufacturing skills, don't exist to get us there.
Deff High Performance Magnetic Style USB Convertor Jack For Sony Xperia Z1/Z2/Z3 Review !!!
Deff magnetic charging Adapter for micro USB cable is an aftermarket connector for some xperia devices. It has enhanced magnetic connection and charging Speed to make an easy and fast way to charge a device. At the moment it can only be order through amazon or some Chinese and Japanese site like eBay for $15.
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What you get !!!
You can charge your Xperia Z1 / Z2 without opening the terminal cover.
Just attach this product to the tip of your micro USB cable, it will turn into a useful charging cable
Provides you a "quick connect" chargeable option without opening the cover each time.
Prevent getting moisture due to incomplete lid because you don't need to take it off.
Terminal is equipped with reverse protection which energizes only when there is a correct connection.
PROS
· The magnet is definitely strong enough to hold the phone in the air and it fits well on the port.
· There is good clearance between the phone and the adapter to have a case on and still be able to use it.
· Is affordable and so far it works.
· It seems to have a good build quality.
CONS
· You CAN”T talk on the phone while charging because the cable eventually falls to side and disconnects.
· You have to keep it in a flat surface in order to work best.
· If at all possible a thinner cable would work best because a stiff cable seems to disconnect it if it gets touch or moved.
Final thoughts
This adapter seems to be a good way to keep the flap on the charging port from opening and closing so much. I think is a good product if you’re willing to spend $15 on it and wait two weeks. I will test the charging speed and voltage and update later!!!!
is the magnet strong enough to hold the phone by itself?
sorry just noticed the pros
3x3cUt0r said:
is the magnet strong enough to hold the phone by itself?
sorry just noticed the pros
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Yes it does I will take a picture tomorrow it seem to charge the phone a bit faster too. Im going to be doing some tests in the next couple days!!!
just go for the magnector X2 adapter on amazon
I ended up purchasing this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00RLOO4KA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00
It's cheap and fits in with the Z3, and looks sleek,
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I ended up purchasing this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00RLOO4KA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00
It's cheap and fits in with the Z3, and looks sleek,
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a lot of people are buying this particular adapter, can you use it with the case on with out disconnecting?
eventually falls to side and disconnects? Does it mean it is not tight?
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eventually falls to side and disconnects? Does it mean it is not tight?
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it is tight, but if you have a very stiff cable like mine and I use the one that came with the phone it does disconnect if you pick up the phone while charging. I can see how a thinner cable could work.
I also think if the magnet was stronger than what it currently is you may take the risk of pulling the whole port out after everyday or every other day use !!!!