Kernels differences - Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey there.
I'm gonna root my z5c and i've seen that i must change kernel as well, so that's my question:
which are pros and cons of choosing custom kernel, such as AndroPlus, instead of modified stock kernel?
and...
...what will i do to get further firmware update? will i get them OTA or will i have to flash the new one?
Thank you so much and sorry for my bad english.

@dario2510
I have Z5p and i am using STOCK modified kernel, re created by tool mentioned here. (tool v5.0)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z5/development/root-automatic-repack-stock-kernel-dm-t3301605
my mobile working like charm
Pros of Modified kernel
1. root access
2. removal of bloatware
3. removal of useless stock xperia apps
4. better ram management
since any modified kernel from android 6.x , has SONY-RIC OFF and DM varity is also OFF then
cons are.
1. mobile on risk of virus
2. privacy risks , hacker attacks
basic precaution
1. keep ADB debugging OFF
2. unknown resources for installing apk keep it OFF also
3. install zonealarm or any other good antivirus etc

Thank you so much... I would prefer the stock one, but with androplus i would be able to underclock cpu, with less heat and more battery life!

dario2510 said:
Hey there.
I'm gonna root my z5c and i've seen that i must change kernel as well, so that's my question:
which are pros and cons of choosing custom kernel, such as AndroPlus, instead of modified stock kernel?
and...
...what will i do to get further firmware update? will i get them OTA or will i have to flash the new one?
Thank you so much and sorry for my bad english.
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Modified stock just disabled RIC and DM to let you gain full root permission and the reset of the codes rename unchanged so it is a pretty stock kernel, the most stable one.
AndroPlus is also based on stock kernel(u can only flash it with stock rom, cm or aosp not work) but heavily modded. It may included some new features or better optimized for performance and battery but maybe bring in some bugs. Generally, AndroPlus is safe to use and almost the only reliable custom stock kernel now for Sony.
AndroPlus default lower cpu clock but you can do it with stock kernel too with third party tuner like kernel adiutor.

TheEndHK said:
Modified stock just disabled RIC and DM to let you gain full root permission and the reset of the codes rename unchanged so it is a pretty stock kernel, the most stable one.
AndroPlus is also based on stock kernel(u can only flash it with stock rom, cm or aosp not work) but heavily modded. It may included some new features or better optimized for performance and battery but maybe bring in some bugs. Generally, AndroPlus is safe to use and almost the only reliable custom stock kernel now for Sony.
AndroPlus default lower cpu clock but you can do it with stock kernel too with third party tuner like kernel adiutor.
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thank you very much!!

Related

Faux kernel in stock rom.

can i use the faux kernel with the stock rom with the latest OTA? Which advantages i gain? Thanks
If by stock ROM you mean AT&T 4.5.9.1, then yes you can use his kernel. The main noticeable advantages are the ability to overclock and undervolt. Other than that, there are some tweaks to the code that also contribute to improving performance.
I would only flash this if you really want to overclock your phone though. If not, stick with stock -- the phone is fast enough as it is.

[Q] What is kernel and which one is the best?

I'm a complete noob when it comes to tinker my x10. I recently installed DonutHD2.2 on it, it has baseband 2.1.71 and Kernel 2.6.29-000530g5f01537 [email protected] #1....
I've heard alot about doom kernel and the others, however I want to know what's the basic purpose of a custom kernel and which one is the best for my rom. Stable wifi connection is my highest priority xD.
Please help a newbie .
tak_juju said:
I'm a complete noob when it comes to tinker my x10. I recently installed DonutHD2.2 on it, it has baseband 2.1.71 and Kernel 2.6.29-000530g5f01537 [email protected] #1....
I've heard alot about doom kernel and the others, however I want to know what's the basic purpose of a custom kernel and which one is the best for my rom. Stable wifi connection is my highest priority xD.
Please help a newbie .
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Hi,
kernel is the main system core of every LINUX or UNIX system, even on Android (its something like non.consistent linux...) which controlls the whole hardware available on system - e.g. display,processor, memory, wifi and bt and so on.
As you wrote, your system has stock kernel - standart delivered from SE.
You can use any kernels from XDA for X10i, there are not so much differences between them. The main thing is the CPU governors. Stock kernel doesnt have good CPU governor (called "ondemand"), so it drains battery all the time. Thats the one thing related to kernel. There are also some optimalizations and so on like undervolting, possibility to load external harware support drivers an a lot of other stuff.
But for begginner, you would probably appreciate only the CPU governors, because of battery life.
HeliumX10 said:
Hi,
kernel is the main system core of every LINUX or UNIX system, even on Android (its something like non.consistent linux...) which controlls the whole hardware available on system - e.g. display,processor, memory, wifi and bt and so on.
As you wrote, your system has stock kernel - standart delivered from SE.
You can use any kernels from XDA for X10i, there are not so much differences between them. The main thing is the CPU governors. Stock kernel doesnt have good CPU governor (called "ondemand"), so it drains battery all the time. Thats the one thing related to kernel. There are also some optimalizations and so on like undervolting, possibility to load external harware support drivers an a lot of other stuff.
But for begginner, you would probably appreciate only the CPU governors, because of battery life.
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I hear doom kernel is good, but it has wifi problems, especially with the latest version. Which kernel would you recommend?
Try doomkernel or zKernel, but u must know that some kernels are for locked and some for unlocked bootloader. U have doom for both.
Sent from my xperia "z10i"
tak_juju said:
I hear doom kernel is good, but it has wifi problems, especially with the latest version. Which kernel would you recommend?
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Yes, I am also running DoomKernel
I am using 2.6.29-modFXP-DooMKernel-v04b; could recommend it. And wifi works great (using it often, dont want 3G data plan).
As was told - depends if you are on locked or unlocked bootloader; but locked doesnt matter I have it also for to be completely save
HeliumX10 said:
Yes, I am also running DoomKernel
I am using 2.6.29-modFXP-DooMKernel-v04b; could recommend it. And wifi works great (using it often, dont want 3G data plan).
As was told - depends if you are on locked or unlocked bootloader; but locked doesnt matter I have it also for to be completely save
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I don't know if I have locked or unlocked bootloader. ^.^
How do I check?
Also if I install any of these custom kernels, would I be able to restore the original SE kernel if needed?
U can check it with s1tool, find it on this thread (step for unlocking bootloader). And yes, u can return ur stock kernel, with flashtool. All info u can find on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928343
Sent from my xperia "z10i"
tak_juju said:
I don't know if I have locked or unlocked bootloader. ^.^
How do I check?
Also if I install any of these custom kernels, would I be able to restore the original SE kernel if needed?
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If you havent done bootloader unlock, you have locked bootloader Or test as described above
And yes, if you will install any custom kernel you are still able to load original kernel from SE. In case you will delete locked bootloader image; the stock kernel will load instead. This is on locked bootloader, dont know if this also on locked kernels.
No, DoomKernel doesn't have WiFi problems...I think you said it because once you have DoomKernel installed on your phone, you must flash and adittional file using Flashtool that is called Wifi Module, and everything will be fine again..
Just referring to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673050
Maybe there are no problems than, guess I'll install it and inform you guys if it works .
How do I backup my stock kernel?
tak_juju said:
Just referring to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673050
Maybe there are no problems than, guess I'll install it and inform you guys if it works .
How do I backup my stock kernel?
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Personally I havent used Feralab ROMs, but on other ones I didnt have any problems.
You dont need to backup stock kernel, it cant be erased (only after bootloader unlock).
If you will find any problems, we or I will surely help you
Yap, on locked BL u can't erase stock kernel, u don't need to backup.
Sent from my "z10i"
Been on thgo's kernels for a very long time now, and it still is the best for me.
Sent from my Xperia X10 using XDA
Flashing Kernel
I am a total newbie and have rooted my x10 and unlocked its bootloader. But now I want to use custom roms but do not know how to flash a custom kernel. Can you guide to a thread which can show step by step guide on flashing custom kernel???
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I am searching all the threads since last month without any success.
diehardluck said:
I am a total newbie and have rooted my x10 and unlocked its bootloader. But now I want to use custom roms but do not know how to flash a custom kernel. Can you guide to a thread which can show step by step guide on flashing custom kernel???
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I am searching all the threads since last month without any success.
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I guess that you can find a complete tutorial on FlashTools topic under the complete FlashTool guide.
Long story short:
1 Install Flashtool and put desired kernel file inside the firmware folder (which is located inside flashtool folder)
2 Connect phone with unknown sources and USB debugging checked on and check if its recognized
3 Click the flash button (the one with the little thunder), select the kernel file
4 Follow FlashTools instructions (it will show up after you select the files and hit ok)
5 ??????
6 Profit
Driver
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a2296455 said:
No, DoomKernel doesn't have WiFi problems...I think you said it because once you have DoomKernel installed on your phone, you must flash and adittional file using Flashtool that is called Wifi Module, and everything will be fine again..
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That additional file called WIFI module or WIFI fix must be flashed via Xrecovery, because it's a zip file. With Flashtool you flash just FTF files (FlashTool File).
Doomkernel (V06) are good, Ferakernel also, ThJap th n5-1... This are kernels for Stock based Roms.
For non-Stock based Roms, like CM 7.2 AND CM9.1 based Roms, you must use kernels which are based on that Roms (FXP kernel, Amin kernel...)
That rom that you were flashed (Donut 2.2.9) is one of the best Stock based Rom. You can use Doomkernel v.06 with medium OC (Overclock) 1113 Mhz. First download Doomkernel on PC, and put that file in Flashtool/firmware folder. Than download WIFI module for that kernel and put on SD card of your phone(every kernel have specific wifi module). Flash kernel via Flashtool, when finished, reboot into Xrecovery ( when you power up your phone and blue led lights up, keep pressing Back button on your phone). Choose Install custom zip, than find your downloaded Wifi module and choose to install. After that, choose Reboot option in Xrecovery and enjoy...
Sent from my SO-01C using xda premium

[Q] Xperia P - How to choose a Kernel

While on my old Sensation, i often flashed diffrend roms, but never a Kernel that was not includet in the rom.
From what i have read in this forum, youd could increase the batterie time, if a custom kernel is flashed.
The tutorials for flashing a kernel are well writen, so i don't see a problem here. And yes, i am aware, that i nee to unlook the bootloader to flash a custom kernel.
My question is, how to chose a kernel? For what information do i have to look?
And for understanding. Do i have to flash another rom to get a custom kernel running, or could i stay on the stock rom and try the kernel itself?
Does a custom Kernel mean, i loose some of the functions that are in the stock kernel /rom or do have all kernel the"basic" functions of the stock kernel and just have addional functions and optimization?
Thanks for your time and help.
eismaus said:
While on my old Sensation, i often flashed diffrend roms, but never a Kernel that was not includet in the rom.
From what i have read in this forum, youd could increase the batterie time, if a custom kernel is flashed.
The tutorials for flashing a kernel are well writen, so i don't see a problem here. And yes, i am aware, that i nee to unlook the bootloader to flash a custom kernel.
My question is, how to chose a kernel? For what information do i have to look?
And for understanding. Do i have to flash another rom to get a custom kernel running, or could i stay on the stock rom and try the kernel itself?
Does a custom Kernel mean, i loose some of the functions that are in the stock kernel /rom or do have all kernel the"basic" functions of the stock kernel and just have addional functions and optimization?
Thanks for your time and help.
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You don't need to flash custom kernel to increase battery life.
All you need to flash a custom kernel is unlocked bootloadr. Be sure to save DRM keys if bravia engine is important to you.
Then look for a custom kernel for stock roms, and custom stock tom too if you wish, or you can choose a non-stock based rom abd kernel.

[Q] Tweaks on Stock

Hey guys, just a question that I couldn't seem to find anywhere. I'm on rooted stock ME7, and I was wondering if it would be possible, or safe, to do some kernel (Gov , scheduler) tweaks on complete stock?
Just scared because I won't have a recovery to flash a fall back zip.
Sent from Navi
I am not 100% positive but I believe without a custom recovery like TWRP or CWR you don't have the ability to flash kernels just like we can't flash ROM's on ME7, again I could be wrong.
Exactly, I mean tweaks on stock kernel
Sent from Navi
michaelg117 said:
Exactly, I mean tweaks on stock kernel
Sent from Navi
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Probably not, If the kernel was able to be modded then you would probably have a custom a recovery by now. Plus watchdog, qmiproxy and mpdecision would have a field day on your system, so you probably wouldnt see much of an increase in performance anyways.
There are some things we can do with root access to tweak it, but without custom recovery to flash we are sitting in the boat with no motor and now wind at our backs.

[Q] Kernels, ROMs and some qestions about that.

Hello,
I want to install Android 4.4.4 on my good old S3, but I have some questions.
The phone is GT-I9300 with stock kernel 3.0.31 and baseband I9300XXUGNA8 -....... with stock Android 4.3
The smartphone is already root (Super Su 2.1) installed busy box 1.22.1 and I want to install this ROM CM-11-20140914-NIGHTLY-i9300 and Kernel boeffla-kernel-2.3a-CM11.0-i9300.CWM
I've changed the recovery (I have TWRP and CMR)
I want ask about:
1. Is it the good choice of the combination of ROM and kernel and are they compatible with my phone?
2 In my situation with the stock kernel and stock ROM what I have to install first? Kernel and then ROM or vice versa, because I don’t want to BRIC the phone.
3 If something goes wrong is there already an option for unbrick or not?
4.Can I used to change the ROM and Kernel, CyanogenMod Installer and Universal Kernel Flash applications or is better to do it manually in recovery. I see that Odin unable to install custom ROM. Am I right?
5 Is it possible and how I can make a backup of the kernel?
6 What is the connection between the baseband number and the compatibility with the kernel?
Thank you in advance for your advices and I know that all what I do is on my own risk.
I apologize for my English because is not good.
Best Regards
bmwpow said:
Hello,
I want to install Android 4.4.4 on my good old S3, but I have some questions.
The phone is GT-I9300 with stock kernel 3.0.31 and baseband I9300XXUGNA8 -....... with stock Android 4.3
The smartphone is already root (Super Su 2.1) installed busy box 1.22.1 and I want to install this ROM CM-11-20140914-NIGHTLY-i9300 and Kernel boeffla-kernel-2.3a-CM11.0-i9300.CWM
I've changed the recovery (I have TWRP and CMR)
I want ask about:
1. Is it the good choice of the combination of ROM and kernel and are they compatible with my phone?
2 In my situation with the stock kernel and stock ROM what I have to install first? Kernel and then ROM or vice versa, because I don’t want to BRIC the phone.
3 If something goes wrong is there already an option for unbrick or not?
4.Can I used to change the ROM and Kernel, CyanogenMod Installer and Universal Kernel Flash applications or is better to do it manually in recovery. I see that Odin unable to install custom ROM. Am I right?
5 Is it possible and how I can make a backup of the kernel?
6 What is the connection between the baseband number and the compatibility with the kernel?
Thank you in advance for your advices and I know that all what I do is on my own risk.
I apologize for my English because is not good.
Best Regards
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1. Yes, i had both of them for awhile and it worked great for me, pretty good battery (i changed the governor and i/o scheduler though).
2. ROM then kernel, atleast ive always done that. If you flash rom second, the cm stock kernel will be installed and you will have to flash boeffla again.
3. Not too sure about unbricking, sorry. As far as i know, brick means pretty much useless/deadweight.
4. CM installer installs a snapshot for the installer and not the nightly you mentioned along with the cm stock kernel. I always flash manually via CWM recovery but that's my personal choice.
5. To backup the kernel, someone else will know but you could just make a nandroid backup of everything before flashing (recommended anyways).
6. I wouldnt know, sorry.
Hope i helped you, Good Luck!
Grimzee said:
1. Yes, i had both of them for awhile and it worked great for me, pretty good battery (i changed the governor and i/o scheduler though).
2. ROM then kernel, atleast ive always done that. If you flash rom second, the cm stock kernel will be installed and you will have to flash boeffla again.
3. Not too sure about unbricking, sorry. As far as i know, brick means pretty much useless/deadweight.
4. CM installer installs a snapshot for the installer and not the nightly you mentioned along with the cm stock kernel. I always flash manually via CWM recovery but that's my personal choice.
5. To backup the kernel, someone else will know but you could just make a nandroid backup of everything before flashing (recommended anyways).
6. I wouldnt know, sorry.
Hope i helped you, Good Luck!
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Thank you. I've change ROM and the kernel and all it is work perfect
bmwpow said:
Thank you. I've change ROM and the kernel and all it is work perfect
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You're welcome and glad to hear, enjoy cyanogenmod with boeffla

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