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I'm deciding between these two and I like to put custom roms on my phone. From what I know, both Sony and HTC are pretty easy to root and support devs (much better than Samsung I guess), but which one would have more roms and easily rootable?
bazzanaja said:
I'm deciding between these two and I like to put custom roms on my phone. From what I know, both Sony and HTC are pretty easy to root and support devs (much better than Samsung I guess), but which one would have more roms and easily rootable?
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its tough call on which device is easier to root...
as far as developer support is concerned, I for one hope to get the Z2, the FreeXperia team (CM devs) [they get devices directly from Sony] will be supporting it, so there will be official CM support, AOSP/AKOP will be supported [Sony gives devices to these devs too]... other than these there would be a lot of other devs also picking up this phone... so that should give you a good idea...
BTW, in general, Sony devices have lesser developer support as compared to other flagships of HTC & Samsung...
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bazzanaja said:
I'm deciding between these two and I like to put custom roms on my phone. From what I know, both Sony and HTC are pretty easy to root and support devs (much better than Samsung I guess), but which one would have more roms and easily rootable?
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If u wanna phone or device for developing nothing can replace by Nexus or GPE devices
btw famous custom roms are supported for almost of sony and htc and also samsung devices.
and rooting; as u know almost of time u don't need to do anything for rooting ur android. there always a tool from devs that u use some keys and done!
and suggest u to go for xperia z2 (generally cause i will go for it )
Most likely the HTC M8.
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i havent owned any HTC or Sony devices, but their rooting instructions are somewhat complicated comparing to Samsung, not sure where you are getting that Samsungs are hard to root/unlock. Now, they all can be rooted. just that Sony and HTC are a little harder because:
Sony have a protected system partition where it stores its camera drivers, you might have to restore that partition after rooting/unlocking the bootloader, so to install custom ROM you required extra steps and AFAIK the camera wont work the same due to the lack of drivers in custom roms.
HTC they have some extra security for their bootloader it seems (S-ON/S-OFF, google that) but they support most custom ROMs. Just gotta deal with that BS.
Samsung, their main issue is their Qualcom drivers are closed source, so you might have a buggy bluetooth/camera/video driver at first until some devs are able port/improve the original driver to use with AOSP (kind of).
Just got rid of my S4 one month ago since my job got my an iPhone :crying: I am going to get the Z2 even if they dont have as much custom ROM love as the others, but I am tired of Samsung already. Im thinking of either replacing my Nexus 5 or get rid of the iPhone and stay with the Z2 and the N5. That way i can satisfy my flashing and hacking needs with the N5 while having a premium device such as the Z2.
I'm currently trying to decide between the Z2 and M8. Coming from S3 with literally massive dev support, I can see that the M8 is likely to get more dev support than the Z2, but as long as there is some decent stock based ROMs and decent AOSP/CM ROMs then I'd be happy on the Z2.
I do keep reading about broken camera on custom Kernels (on Z1) though. Is this likely to be the case on the Z2?
I've never been on Sony before, so it is new ground to me...
remydlc said:
i havent owned any HTC or Sony devices, but their rooting instructions are somewhat complicated comparing to Samsung, not sure where you are getting that Samsungs are hard to root/unlock. Now, they all can be rooted. just that Sony and HTC are a little harder because:
Sony have a protected system partition where it stores its camera drivers, you might have to restore that partition after rooting/unlocking the bootloader, so to install custom ROM you required extra steps and AFAIK the camera wont work the same due to the lack of drivers in custom roms.
HTC they have some extra security for their bootloader it seems (S-ON/S-OFF, google that) but they support most custom ROMs. Just gotta deal with that BS.
Samsung, their main issue is their Qualcom drivers are closed source, so you might have a buggy bluetooth/camera/video driver at first until some devs are able port/improve the original driver to use with AOSP (kind of).
Just got rid of my S4 one month ago since my job got my an iPhone :crying: I am going to get the Z2 even if they dont have as much custom ROM love as the others, but I am tired of Samsung already. Im thinking of either replacing my Nexus 5 or get rid of the iPhone and stay with the Z2 and the N5. That way i can satisfy my flashing and hacking needs with the N5 while having a premium device such as the Z2.
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It really depends because you can just unlock the bootloader and flash a recovery without having to S-OFF if you just want root and custom ROMs for an HTC. Samsung is generally more frustrating because they don't really merge device trees and there are many variants of the phone itself all over the world. Used to own the Exnyos S4 and it was development hell .-. So I switched to the HTC One and I got what I wanted. In currently S-ON and I would only S-off to change CIDs and such. It's quite dangerous to S-ON again from an S-OFF as well. Something to consider if you plan to get an HTC.
Happy Flashing from the proud owner of a HTC One.
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I plan to buy a Z2 because it has the specs, the functionality and we are gonna have some hands on good devs from the start of development. I truly believe that its the Z2s time to shine as its such a beautiful phone that's hopefully gonna get alot of development. The M8 is meh. I'm an HTC Fan but honestly the m8 doesn't look all too good and I had much higher expectations for HTCs new flagship
Happy Flashing from the proud owner of a HTC One.
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It really depends because you can just unlock the bootloader and flash a recovery without having to S-OFF if you just want root and custom ROMs for an HTC. Samsung is generally more frustrating because they don't really merge device trees and there are many variants of the phone itself all over the world. Used to own the Exnyos S4 and it was development hell .-. So I switched to the HTC One and I got what I wanted. In currently S-ON and I would only S-off to change CIDs and such. It's quite dangerous to S-ON again from an S-OFF as well. Something to consider if you plan to get an HTC.
Happy Flashing from the proud owner of a HTC One.
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I plan to buy a Z2 because it has the specs, the functionality and we are gonna have some hands on good devs from the start of development. I truly believe that its the Z2s time to shine as its such a beautiful phone that's hopefully gonna get alot of development. The M8 is meh. I'm an HTC Fan but honestly the m8 doesn't look all too good and I had much higher expectations for HTCs new flagship
Happy Flashing from the proud owner of a HTC One.
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The htc m8 like you said doesnt seem too impressive specially spec wise, but i have a feeling it will get a much bigger development support. Not to mention that sony is going to release another flagship in 6 months.
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The htc m8 like you said doesnt seem too impressive specially spec wise, but i have a feeling it will get a much bigger development support. Not to mention that sony is going to release another flagship in 6 months.
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True... After a while I am considering that a snapdragon 805 might do better. Not much innovation is going on with the current flagships and i think 2014 is going to be a pretty boring tech year for phones and wearables are coming in. I'm a proud owner of the HTC M7 and ive seen the leaks of the M8 im finding the speaker grills look weird and there is no use of the bottom bezel. I have to be honest the M8 looks terrible compared to the HTC One and all these flagships are carrying the 801's which are just a bump up... I think i might wait...
Nah, the M8 will have more support (and legs) due to the fact that it has a GPE version. They are already committed to updating it to the latest version of android for two years. This will be ported across for most of the other variants just like it was on the one and that work will be available not long after the GPE hits the street as the same dev already has it in the works and is just waiting for a dump. Meanwhile here you have a phone that will already be old and pathetic when the 3 comes out on its fancy smanchy 805 chipset before the end of the year.
I bought in here guys so don't get me wrong. I feel this phone will have plenty enough support but if that were my main criteria I would have went with the M8.
bazzanaja said:
I'm deciding between these two and I like to put custom roms on my phone. From what I know, both Sony and HTC are pretty easy to root and support devs (much better than Samsung I guess), but which one would have more roms and easily rootable?
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HTC cannot be Compared to Sony for the Quality of the Build Materials but for Developing Section HTC is more far away from Sony.
So if you want have Software support for your device buy Nexus or HTC, if you want have the feeling of an amazing quality phone in your hand, buy Sony.
Is the G2 the worst phone for flashing? Most G2 ROMS are alpha or beta a year and half later. Now it could be a LG thing because the G3 doesn't seem to be much better. Given the track record with this phone would any of you actually think about a Flex 2 or G4?
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Is the G2 the worst phone for flashing? Most G2 ROMS are alpha or beta a year and half later. Now it could be a LG thing because the G3 doesn't seem to be much better. Given the track record with this phone would any of you actually think about a Flex 2 or G4?
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If you get flex 2 you will cry even more about roms....Imo g2 isnt supported like htc devices, i mean that many roms and that many customisation options especialy Venom roms, thats why i liked htc that much, also htc has best looking UI in my eyes, next is G3 Ui, thats why i got g2, cuz i could afford only htc one m7 which has bad camera and snapdragon 600 for preety much same price (used), and i am totally happy with my decision. If you want more roms, buy htc m9 and enjoy
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If you get flex 2 you will cry even more about roms....Imo g2 isnt supported like htc devices, i mean that many roms and that many customisation options especialy Venom roms, thats why i liked htc that much, also htc has best looking UI in my eyes, next is G3 Ui, thats why i got g2, cuz i could afford only htc one m7 which has bad camera and snapdragon 600 for preety much same price (used), and i am totally happy with my decision. If you want more roms, buy htc m9 and enjoy
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Yeah. the HTC M8 has definitely been looking like a good option.
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Yeah. the HTC M8 has definitely been looking like a good option.
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Good phone, but i dont see it like some nice "upgrade" from g2.....
The thing is that htc phone have been getting modded for a long time now. With the likes of AndroidRevolutionHD (ARHD), Insertcoin, Venom (formerly pokemon rom i think) these guys have been working on htc phones for years and know htc sense well, coupled with unlockable bootloaders and htc's usually great build quality these developers have no real need to move elsewhere. They do great work just as our developers do but our developers have a different ball game to play. Locked bootloaders are a dev headache. Delayed source code is a headcahe. While the roms may be beta and alpha here its not fair to say this phone/oem is bad for flashing as the developers may not want to leave beta before all bugs are fixed (and some bugs can be damn stubborn). This coupled with the speed google releases new android versions and peoples lust to have the latest and greatest time for development roms often get left as beta/stable and people move on to the next port/source compile of android. I find alot of the time beta roms are perfectly acceptable for daily drivers but my logic would suggest if theres a bug it should be beta (although oems dont seem to obide to that ). Not to mention to alot of people this is a hobbie not a job, life gets in the way of hobbies.
With that said, i do agree that the m8 doesnt feel like much of a step up from here. Maybe you should hang around here flashing roms until the next HTC upgrade comes along and jump to that? At this point i think its fair to say that the latest htc phone will be supported by the big teams, it will most likely gain s-off and support multirom and the forums will most likely be rammed as usual with people who are new and not so eager to read before flashing
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I have a G Pro 2.
Well, that's the most unsupported smartphone I ever had
heavy_metal_man said:
The thing is that htc phone have been getting modded for a long time now. With the likes of AndroidRevolutionHD (ARHD), Insertcoin, Venom (formerly pokemon rom i think) these guys have been working on htc phones for years and know htc sense well, coupled with unlockable bootloaders and htc's usually great build quality these developers have no real need to move elsewhere. They do great work just as our developers do but our developers have a different ball game to play. Locked bootloaders are a dev headache. Delayed source code is a headcahe. While the roms may be beta and alpha here its not fair to say this phone/oem is bad for flashing as the developers may not want to leave beta before all bugs are fixed (and some bugs can be damn stubborn). This coupled with the speed google releases new android versions and peoples lust to have the latest and greatest time for development roms often get left as beta/stable and people move on to the next port/source compile of android. I find alot of the time beta roms are perfectly acceptable for daily drivers but my logic would suggest if theres a bug it should be beta (although oems dont seem to obide to that ). Not to mention to alot of people this is a hobbie not a job, life gets in the way of hobbies.
With that said, i do agree that the m8 doesnt feel like much of a step up from here. Maybe you should hang around here flashing roms until the next HTC upgrade comes along and jump to that? At this point i think its fair to say that the latest htc phone will be supported by the big teams, it will most likely gain s-off and support multirom and the forums will most likely be rammed as usual with people who are new and not so eager to read before flashing
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Well said :good:
Far from it. With the LG G2, there are probably more unique options than any other (non-nexus) phone. It can run the skinned G2 software, stock or tweaked. You can flash the skinned G3 software with an updated look. You can flash the LG Flex software. You can run Stock Android in 4.4.4 or 5.0.2 as it's similiarities with the Nexus 5 makes it easier to develop.
I will concede that within skinned roms, the updates are rarer... that will most likely change in the next two months as LG's Official 5.0 updates will go through more optimization until it works as a dev thinks it should.
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Is the G2 the worst phone for flashing? Most G2 ROMS are alpha or beta a year and half later. Now it could be a LG thing because the G3 doesn't seem to be much better. Given the track record with this phone would any of you actually think about a Flex 2 or G4?
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I think the HTC flagships having the GPE editions give them an advantage if you don't like dealing with hardware compatibility issues the CM, AOSP etc ROMS can have.
The # of models of the G2 doesn't help much.. Daily CM 12's right now for just the one edition IIRC?
I had many HTC phones and the main thing is they abandon their phones quickly. Or at least they did as of One X+. Every phone, we'd have the promise of official firmware for a new version of android and at the last minute the phone would be eol'd.
I guess the gpe phones might help porting new stock firmware? Not sure since I left HTC after the one x+. Also, I found HTC phones bricked easy and unbricking was difficult.
But man, sense has always looked the best, and viper rom is always amazing.
But I like lg because the stock firmware doesn't even make me want to mod it. Every other brand I've had (Sony, Motorola), the stock firmware left something to be desired.
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I had many HTC phones and the main thing is they abandon their phones quickly. Or at least they did as of One X+. Every phone, we'd have the promise of official firmware for a new version of android and at the last minute the phone would be eol'd.
I guess the gpe phones might help porting new stock firmware? Not sure since I left HTC after the one x+. Also, I found HTC phones bricked easy and unbricking was difficult.
But man, sense has always looked the best, and viper rom is always amazing.
But I like lg because the stock firmware doesn't even make me want to mod it. Every other brand I've had (Sony, Motorola), the stock firmware left something to be desired.
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My previous phone was HTC One X, HTC said they wanted to update it to 4.4.2 but nvidia dropped support for its tegra socket, so they didnt have drivers to do that, but i see that htc one m7 is doing good, it will get lolipop till end of next month, so i think they got better with updates, at least thats almost 2 years of fast updates what you want more? Even google haven't updated their galaxy nexus cuz of dropped socket support...
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I think the HTC flagships having the GPE editions give them an advantage if you don't like dealing with hardware compatibility issues the CM, AOSP etc ROMS can have.
The # of models of the G2 doesn't help much.. Daily CM 12's right now for just the one edition IIRC?
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I've heard the Verizon model has super sweet CM12 support and everything just amazing works perfectly. I haven't tried it yet but there are several Lollipop roms for the VS980 model, which is what I have and follow dev for.
The amount of number of various models doesn't help, although by now most roms support all variants with options to select your model for the fine tweaks each different model requires. The only model that has issues is the Verizon one using generic roms. It seems the stock Messaging app doesn't like to do MMS (I think because Verizon uses IMS). Not that there are road blocks. Lots of ports have fine tuned Verizon editions with everything working. I am personally loving the G3 Verizon rom port. It has everything I want/need and no issues.
I agree that the LG G2 does have plenty of options to choose from and it isn't just Stock or AOSP or CM.
I would not see any problem with my flash addict, if camera quality weren't that bad on AOSP roms. It's the only reason why I'm not swapping roms like crazy. I hope Lollipop will somehow change it (dreaming).
Coming from the Rezound and then the Razr MAXX HD, the G2 is My Flash Dream!!!! Roms, kernels,and mods- the ease of it all is ridiculously great(specially being virtually unbrickable)!
Actually I disagree. Yes G2 is not the best in the field of development and flashing but compared to many other flagships, I prefere it. Take a look at development section of exynous version of samsung flagships. Also there is no bootloader lock or knox or... Here
So that's one of the reasons after messing around with a few phones, including note3, nexus 5, G3 and one m7, I came back to g2
undeadking said:
Coming from the Rezound and then the Razr MAXX HD, the G2 is My Flash Dream!!!! Roms, kernels,and mods- the ease of it all is ridiculously great(specially being virtually unbrickable)!
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When flashing pay attention to model/variant you have, you can end with brick if you select wrong model.
I would not call it the worst phone but it definitely doesn't have the support the old school Galaxy S2 Skyrocket have, I'm still flashing on that thing even though I'm not using. G2 has a ton of alpha and beta roms but very few official stable roms. I'm almost ready to go back to iPhone if these Android phones keep having short-lived ROM support
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I would not see any problem with my flash addict, if camera quality weren't that bad on AOSP roms. It's the only reason why I'm not swapping roms like crazy. I hope Lollipop will somehow change it (dreaming).
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That is the problem with any other phone too unless nexus or cyanogen inc phones.
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I would not call it the worst phone but it definitely doesn't have the support the old school Galaxy S2 Skyrocket have, I'm still flashing on that thing even though I'm not using. G2 has a ton of alpha and beta roms but very few official stable roms. I'm almost ready to go back to iPhone if these Android phones keep having short-lived ROM support
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I suggest you stick to Nexus devices, which is what I'll do once I sell my G2. They tend to have the best action, but I have yet to see a new community with the variety of ROMs that the HTC G1 had...
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totally hoping that the new rumors that LG will build a Nexus phone are true, and hoping it will be a real phone and that stupid Nexus 6
I'm just wondering will there be any devs building for this device. Looking through the G4 forums there isn't that much development. Any devs thinking about purchasing this device?
I don't know if anyone will develop for the device unless the bootloader is unlocked. I am guessing that the Korean and international variants will be clear for the bootloaders, but if LG pulls something like they did with the G4 and having only the European versions 815 and the T-mobile versions unlockable (V10 not being released in Europe?) then the support will probably be low is my guess. Lg may be dev friendly, but I guess we will not really know for a while until the phone circulates.
EDIT: If anyone knows more about the V10, I would also be stoked to know. I really want this phone to work well for dev support.
I hope so, but seems like 2015 is the death of development outside of nexus. Look at any flagship of 2015 and it's lacking. I am really hoping Google resurrects Google play edition. The m8 was a beast, we had GPE,CM and of course sense. We also had multiboot.
I've had my LG-G5 H850 for a few months now.... really hated the LG UI, but managed to get it close to usable with Google Now, etc so I didn't rush into it....
The only thing about the LG ROM that I'm nervous about losing is the LG camera software.... does the dual mode camera and all the manual options (incl RAW photo's, etc) still work in Cyanogenmod / similar?
Which ROMs are people running? I notice that there's still no Cyanogenmod/Mokee build for the G5
Are people just running stock, rooted and debloated?
Custom Roms
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As you already know there are currently no cm roms as of yet but there are 3 custom roms to my knowledge. The current custom roms all use the flagship camera software so your good to go ahead with flashing any one of them.
I doubt Cm will run the flagship flagship camera software and im unaware of any cm camera software utilising the 3 cameras as of yet.
I was a D855(G3) owner for the past 3 years. The Rom development was huge but unfortunately no cm based or aosp based Rom was able to go even close to stock camera quality. LG camera framework was closed coded and LG hasn't shared the code yet. So I guess the same thing will happen to G5. I just hope for more developers to join the G5 community.
I was also on LS990 lg g3 since it's release till coming to g5 and I mainly ran pure AOSP,XenonHD with a few exceptions for some CM-based ROMs... Till I found Fulmics(which was similar to UX 5.0) which was amazing despite missing some features find in AOSP/CM-style ROMs
But I must say I love UX 5.0 with app drawer; I think I'm part of the minority that thinks LG did a great job with their new UI,esp compared to the old UI's...
At this point I wouldn't want to run CM-anything...esp if it means giving up my camera! I mean if u want a circle battery icon that bad just install gravity box... But this UI has grown on me
Any specific custom ROM recommendations?
I was going to follow this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/development/recovery-team-win-recovery-project-lg-g5-t3363047
and then CMremix (based on CM-14.1)... I think!! (from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/help/rom-cmremix-rom-v1-xx-t3502055)
And thanks for the info about the LG camera software - it's the one piece of LG software that I've been really happy with - definitely would have looked to keep that, so good to hear that it is being ported as-is into the custom ROMs.
Ever since Samsung "did an Apple" and abandoned all their enthusiasts and tweakers (as Apple did in the 1980's), I've been looking for an alternative like LG!!!
Do you think this device will get custom rom support considering the price I reckon it will the only issue is the device is only available in india that being said oneplus only sells to a select group of countries
It will get custom roms, this phone will be available also in Europe and India.
I am planning to get this device. Earlier I was hell bent on getting Asus Zenfone 5Z which boasts of same configuration as OPO6, POCO F1. But then I saw how there is absolutely no development going on for the device! I am just hoping it doesn't happen with POCO F1.
Edit : https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-poco-f1-developer-community/
Sounds promising. It's upto the developers now if they think this device deserves some Custom ROMs love ?
Easier bootloader unlocking, Kernel sources on Day 1 and Flagship specs at the cheapest available price... Surely it will get Custom ROMs once a few flash sales are over and the device ends up in a few experienced developers' hands... It surely will be the Best selling SD845 mobile in India for the coming months since other competing phones are a bit old and costly... Expect to have really healthy development considering Xiaomi phones generally have a very active community for Custom ROMs...
Dang. I just bought a mint condition Oneplus 5T for $320. Did I make the wrong decision? xD
This thing will get a lot of custom roms!
I'll be honest. The best hope this device has is Indian developers. Mostly because they will need VOLTE which is not open source. Also most of the main developers for the major teams are based in the US where this device will not be, meaning that US devs wont be getting it, nor has xiaomi been forgiven by most of the devs here on XDA.
I think by the end of next month there will be lot of custom roms for Poco F1. Good gesture from Xiaomi. Supporting developer community.
No question about that, custom ROMs are coming, definitely. Just think about this - the max 2 has already been treble-ized and a custom ROM based on android 9 is in development.
Xiaomi will be releasing GSIs for this which will be very easily kangd into custom ROMs. No good reason why there won't be loads of development
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Xiaomi will be releasing GSIs for this which will be very easily kangd into custom ROMs. No good reason why there won't be loads of development
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There is a difference in custom roms and development. They are not the same. Xiaomi always has roms. But none are developing on the device or working directly for that device.
Also the gsi don't do any good. Not for custom roms. Those will be still have to be built per device.
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I'll be honest. The best hope this device has is Indian developers. Mostly because they will need VOLTE which is not open source. Also most of the main developers for the major teams are based in the US where this device will not be, meaning that US devs wont be getting it, nor has xiaomi been forgiven by most of the devs here on XDA.
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Those in NA might import it, but the deciding factor will likely be availability of source, and 3G/LTE band support on global variant. Americans don't incur an "import" fee/tax like in other countries, so price shouldn't be an issue.
Kernel source is due for release on August 29th.
Reportedly compatible with the following US networks (covering most bases, I reckon):
T-Mobile 3G, T-Mobile 4G, AT&T 4G, Plateau Wireless 3G, Union Wireless 3G, Viaero Wireless 3G, West Central Wireless 3G, U.S. Cellular 4G, Verizon 4G, C Spire 4G, ClearTalk 4G, iWireless 4G, Limitless Mobile 4G, Mosaic Telecom 4G
This phone is treble enabled, so you can directly flash GSI on this and will work flawlessly (as far i think)
I will try android pie gsi as someone releases treble enabled twrp for it. It will be on xda as soon people started getting phones
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I'll be honest. The best hope this device has is Indian developers. Mostly because they will need VOLTE which is not open source. Also most of the main developers for the major teams are based in the US where this device will not be, meaning that US devs wont be getting it, nor has xiaomi been forgiven by most of the devs here on XDA.
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Unavailability in US has been the case for almost all Xiaomi phones but the thing is Xiaomi mobiles in XDA has one of the most active development... Many device has recieved unofficial Treble ports and already about 10 or more device has working Android Pie builds... Considering Poco F1's price and specs it shouldn't be a surprise if it ever has the most active development in XDA...
I think many Indian devs are good as any other devs outside. And even if the phone is launching in India only, many devs living outside would also try to get there hands on global version because of how much this phone offers for the price. Also Xiaomi releasing kernel source is a great move to motivate devs and upcoming devs to build custom roms.
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Unavailability in US has been the case for almost all Xiaomi phones but the thing is Xiaomi mobiles in XDA has one of the most active development... Many device has recieved unofficial Treble ports and already about 10 or more device has working Android Pie builds... Considering Poco F1's price and specs it shouldn't be a surprise if it ever has the most active development in XDA...
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Getting ports is not development.
Price doesn't mean much in many places.
You are right. It has been and that is why none of the main developers of teams ever get the device.
I still have hope for this oem but we will see. They have a lot to make up for here with developers.
As for the most development. That sadly will belong to the pixel line. Which is what all the top developers get.
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Getting ports is not development.
Price doesn't mean much in many places.
You are right. It has been and that is why none of the main developers of teams ever get the device.
I still have hope for this oem but we will see. They have a lot to make up for here with developers.
As for the most development. That sadly will belong to the pixel line. Which is what all the top developers get.
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In India, price means a lot... That is why most Apple has such a bad market in India and companies like Xiaomi with value for money products have such a huge market here... There are really skilled Indian Developers who opt to buy such cheap but Good devices...
They themselves stated about bootloader unlocking and custom ROM flashing in the launch event... Xiaomi is one of those very few companies who encourage rooting and stuffs without voiding the warranty...
In My personal experience, Xiaomi devices have very strong community support in XDA, I personally have Redmi 3S, Redmi Note 5 Pro and Redmi 5A... My Friends have a wide range of Redmi devices and They all have a Great custom ROM supply...
Its all from My knowledge and thoughts, just a healthy change of idea...
bharathulaganathan said:
In India, price means a lot... That is why most Apple has such a bad market in India and companies like Xiaomi with value for money products have such a huge market here... There are really skilled Indian Developers who opt to buy such cheap but Good devices...
They themselves stated about bootloader unlocking and custom ROM flashing in the launch event... Xiaomi is one of those very few companies who encourage rooting and stuffs without voiding the warranty...
In My personal experience, Xiaomi devices have very strong community support in XDA, I personally have Redmi 3S, Redmi Note 5 Pro and Redmi 5A... My Friends have a wide range of Redmi devices and They all have a Great custom ROM supply...
Its all from My knowledge and thoughts, just a healthy change of idea...
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They are doing the same thing OEM have done before. Not to mention that they require to unlock the bootloader is bs.
To be honest, the only reason most devs even get the device is because xda buys it for them. That is why Franco supports the OEM.
I understand that is the way it is in India. That is why I said that it will most likely be developers from there that will need to focus on development. Not to mention that VOLTE is really needed in India and not anywhere else. Nor is it part of open source. So that will take an Indian dev to work on or there will be thousands of posts asking why VOLTE doesnt work. I talked to a few of the lead devs from different teams about the device and I got the same answer from all of them, they have zero interest in the device let alone the OEM. So one of their users will have to get the device and maintain it. Hell most wont even support this oem officially. But then you really cant blame the devs after what this company has done here.
I cant say about the device as I know zero people with the device and there is less then 1% chance that I even know anyone with the device form the OEM. But that could also be part of my job as they are banned along with ZTE and hauwei.
No 9.0 PIE ports for sd845?
I checked some sd845 phones like op6, mix2s, 5z, they dont have any custom roms based on 9.0. And they dont have too much custom roms like redmi note 5 pro or a1 etc. Can somebody guide me ??