It may be just me but it seems like there have been many more flashing problems with the G4 vs previous Moto G models. This is my 4th different Moto phone and I've helped develop roms and flashed the G2 and G3 hundreds of times without worrying at all about bricking the phone. With this phone it seems like there is a much higher percentage of flashing problems compared to previous models. The only thing I can think of is the Amazon model has really been the major culprit causing most if the problems.
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Yes the amazon version is unlockable, and that is what is causing all the problems.
Perhaps it's Lenovo that's making it harder to flash. I read Lenovo cut support for old Moto devices and announced limited/no support for newer Moto devices.
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Perhaps it's Lenovo that's making it harder to flash. I read Lenovo cut support for old Moto devices and announced limited/no support for newer Moto devices.
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I think we're a little more lucky in the US because I've noticed that we seem to have better support. Of course there are probably a lot less units sold in the US than other countries.
Wait you can unlock the bootloader on the Amazon model? I spent the extra 50$ and bought the retail model just so I could install twrp
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Wait you can unlock the bootloader on the Amazon model? I spent the extra 50$ and bought the retail model just so I could install twrp
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No you cant! Amazon models come with a update to keep them from unlock bootloader.
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No you cant! Amazon models come with a update to keep them from unlock bootloader.
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For the first week or so you could, but amazon saw people using that to get rid of ads, so they had unlocking the bootloader blocked.
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Hey everyone,
I've been looking for a new phone for some time now. I was playing around based on specifications I'd like my next phone to have, I currently have a Oneplus One and would like something a little more updated. I found the G5 to meet my requirements but it seems there are a ton of models and I'm not quite sure which one is good? I intend to root/rom/etc so which one would you guys recommend getting for someone with T-Mobile? Thanks in advance
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Hey everyone,
I've been looking for a new phone for some time now. I was playing around based on specifications I'd like my next phone to have, I currently have a Oneplus One and would like something a little more updated. I found the G5 to meet my requirements but it seems there are a ton of models and I'm not quite sure which one is good? I intend to root/rom/etc so which one would you guys recommend getting for someone with T-Mobile? Thanks in advance
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The H830 is the T Mobile model and is rootable, and you can unlock the bootloader, the only other one I am aware of is the H850, only the EU model can be unlocked
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gotham2krazy said:
Hey everyone,
I've been looking for a new phone for some time now. I was playing around based on specifications I'd like my next phone to have, I currently have a Oneplus One and would like something a little more updated. I found the G5 to meet my requirements but it seems there are a ton of models and I'm not quite sure which one is good? I intend to root/rom/etc so which one would you guys recommend getting for someone with T-Mobile? Thanks in advance
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Besides the H830 (which TMobile doesn't sell any longer the only other US model that is unlockable is the RS988. B&H photo has them on sale for 250 right now. They are brand new with full warranty. I just bought one from there last month which I rooted an am using on Verizon. I had the VS987 prior and also the H830. Which I rooted. But had an issue getting it sim unlocked for other carriers. The only thing that the RS988 can't do is wifi calling but I've never needed that anyway. The RS988 I got from B&H also was manufactured in 3/2017 so they have newer builds not old stock laying around. Verizon recently stopped selling this phone as well so it's only a matter of time before there are no new ones left.
Good Luck
I am really excited about the new V30, I had 3 LG phones before, Optimus G, G3 and G4 now which is BL locked because it is the israeli Variant H815L, which means I am stuck with the stock firmware
is it going to be the same with the V30? I really want to be able to open the BL after 2 years of use
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I am really excited about the new V30, I had 3 LG phones before, Optimus G, G3 and G4 now which is BL locked because it is the israeli Variant H815L, which means I am stuck with the stock firmware
is it going to be the same with the V30? I really want to be able to open the BL after 2 years of use
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Wait for the carrier unlocked versions European or U.S.) which will be eligible for official bootloader unlock.
See this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3665927
I believe most LG flagships Single SIM International version will be definitely bootloader unlocked and of course root. example for the LG G6 the model is LG H870, for the LG V30 , it should be LG H930! If my country ships an LG V30 with impossible bootloader unlocked (could be a dual SIM LG flagship like the LG H930DS ) I'll instead buy LG H930 from Online (EBay or Amazon)!
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I believe most LG flagships Single SIM International version will be definitely bootloader unlocked and of course root. example for the LG G6 the model is LG H870, for the LG V30 , it should be LG H930! If my country ships an LG V30 with impossible bootloader unlocked (could be a dual SIM LG flagship like the LG H930DS ) I'll instead buy LG H930 from Online (EBay or Amazon)!
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Yes, H930 (with no other characters) is the unlocked version for Europe.
https://www.techwalls.com/lg-v30-model-number-differences/
The problem is AFTER the U.S. and European LG G6 unlocked carrier versions were released, LG waited ANOTHER SIX WEEKS to put them on the official bootloader unlock list. I hope they don't wait that long for the LG V30. Otherwise would be end of December before we could unlock bootloader and root the carrier unlocked versions.
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Yes, H930 (with no other characters) is the unlocked version for Europe.
https://www.techwalls.com/lg-v30-model-number-differences/
The problem is AFTER the U.S. and European LG G6 unlocked carrier versions were released, LG waited ANOTHER SIX WEEKS to put them on the official bootloader unlock list. I hope they don't wait that long for the LG V30. Otherwise would be end of December before we could unlock bootloader and root the carrier unlocked versions.
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That six week delay, coupled with the wait for the darn unlocked version just to be released, is the disappointed point for me.
I just will not buy an Android based device in which I can't root.
I hate missing all the carrier costs savings (BOGO) and free gifts from ordering from T-Mobile, but these locked bootloader's for $800 devices is just ridiculous.
I'll get back to the V30 come December I guess.
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That six week delay, coupled with the wait for the darn unlocked version just to be released, is the disappointed point for me.
I just will not buy an Android based device in which I can't root.
I hate missing all the carrier costs savings (BOGO) and free gifts from ordering from T-Mobile, but these locked bootloader's for $800 devices is just ridiculous.
I'll get back to the V30 come December I guess.
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I agree. I love the pre-order stuff, but TBH, this one isn't giving much. I don't use vr headsets. I'm gonna wait until the unlocked one comes and get that. I miss root.... Haven't had it since the G4.
There's nothing root offers me that I must have.
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There's nothing root offers me that I must have.
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I wish I could say the same. Ads drive me utterly bonkers! An adblocker and HOSTS file modification is a must for me.
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I wish I could say the same. Ads drive me utterly bonkers! An adblocker and HOSTS file modification is a must for me.
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Ads where? I can't even say I know where I've ever seen an ad.
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Ads where? I can't even say I know where I've ever seen an ad.
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Even XDA Developers has ads on the site. I take it you don't surf the internet very much or watch YouTube? Some free apps also contain ads.
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Even XDA Developers has ads on the site. I take it you don't surf the internet very much or watch YouTube? Some free apps also contain ads.
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I think he is just being a smart ass, same **** people were doing in the note 8 forums about root on carrier phones.
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There's nothing root offers me that I must have.
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Congratulations. I think Apple makes a phone you would be interested in..... Most of us here on XDA want root capabilities and an unlocked bootloader for obvious reasons.....
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Congratulations. I think Apple makes a phone you would be interested in..... Most of us here on XDA want root capabilities and an unlocked bootloader for obvious reasons.....
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You feel better? Just because I don't need root means I need to go Apple. Great thought processing you have going. KY
So LG doesn't know when the release date for the unlocked is? I'm done with having this note 8 and no root, and even when root is achieved for us note 8's it will come with shortcomings
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So LG doesn't know when the release date for the unlocked is? I'm done with having this note 8 and no root, and even when root is achieved for us note 8's it will come with shortcomings
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Nothing official but more than likely around the middle of November, at least what some sites are hinting towards.
the LG V30 is the most gorgeous phone they've ever made. I like that it doesn't have overly curved sides creating a glare. BUT....I have to have full theming available. The theming out of the box doesn't cut it. I need everything to be black with an accent color of my choosing.
Does the Unlocked Bootloader UK have the 600MHz network speed? Or is it just US variant that have it?
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Does the Unlocked Bootloader UK have the 600MHz network speed? Or is it just US variant that have it?
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You mean the 600MHz frequency? LTE BAND 71? The new U.S. T-Mobile LTE band? Not sure why you used the words "network speed".
I'm not speaking for LG, but European carrier unlocked V30 wouldn't need it. What carriers in Europe are using that LTE band? It's not just software, but also hardware (antennas) needed to send/receive that new LTE band.
For instance the South Korea LG V30 model does not have that band.
We have yet to see if the U.S. carrier unlocked version will definitely have it on release. It should, as all the U.S. variants should have the same hardware, with various bands enabled/disabled according to carrier needs. Verizon doesn't need LTE band 71, T-Mobile does.
But it would make sense for LG to basically make the same phone for all of North America, and then enable/disable bands for various carriers.
The "carrier unlocked" version US998 SHOULD have all the U.S./Canada bands enabled. One dept. of T-Mobile said it would, but another said it wouldn't or they didn't know. But LG doesn't need T-Mobile permission to enable that band on a phone T-Mobile is not selling (carrier unlocked version, US998). T-Mobile can't speak for LG.
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So LG doesn't know when the release date for the unlocked is? I'm done with having this note 8 and no root, and even when root is achieved for us note 8's it will come with shortcomings
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I sent my note 8 back over this and am waiting on the V30.
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I sent my note 8 back over this and am waiting on the V30.
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Why did you sent the note 8 back???
Is the best phone out there so far....
Hello, I am new here, so I can only post here.
Long story short, my father bought a sealed MiPad 4 for my mother, but the thing is that when it first booted, I noticed the "Unlocked" logo at the bottom of the screen. Now, I don't know much about their tablets, but I am not so sure that their devices come already unlocked. So, is it normal or not?
Mine came unlocked too, was happy about that.
Might have to do with which version you buy. Chinese version or international version. The international version might be unlocked because they installed the international rom on it.
me too. bought 2 from aliexpress. both are unlocked
Bought from Ali Express. Apparently the International rom, what with the Play Store and all comes with bootloaders unlocked.
However will never receive future updates.
Chocolina said:
Bought from Ali Express. Apparently the International rom, what with the Play Store and all comes with bootloaders unlocked.
However will never receive future updates.
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mipad 4 already eol. the worse tablet in the world.
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mipad 4 already eol. the worse tablet in the world.
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Stop talking nonsense please. Its not EOL, and its the best tablet for the money.
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Mine came unlocked too, was happy about that.
Might have to do with which version you buy. Chinese version or international version. The international version might be unlocked because they installed the international rom on it.
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That theory has one flaw: There is no international version of the mipad4. The Mipad 4 is designed and sold for the chinese market, only - There is also no official global or international ROM for it.
What people are experiencing are third party ROMs which are pre-installed by the seller. The sellers probably re-seal the devices once the custom ROM has been flashed.
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Stop talking nonsense please. Its not EOL, and its the best tablet for the money.
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stop lie to yourself. everyone knows it's already no future support. you can refer to miui.com.
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stop lie to yourself. everyone knows it's already no future support. you can refer to miui.com.
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Im not. Its a fact mad kiddo.
Hello i have owned my galaxy S9+ (SM-G965U1) for about a year now. Problem is that One UI has completely ruined my life and my entire experience with my phone. Back when it ran Oreo it was near perfect.
So i need help figuring out what the best S9+ with a unlocked bootloader is and where i might be able to buy them new that is.
My plan is to buy one with a unlocked bootloader so i will never have to deal with the piece of human excrement that is One UI
Thank you, this was the funniest post in forever. It has ruined your life. Omg, thank you!
Any Exynos model cam be rooted.
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tdevaughn said:
Thank you, this was the funniest post in forever. It has ruined your life. Omg, thank you!
Any Exynos model cam be rooted.
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Yes believe it or not it has truly made my life miserable. I don't understand why companies try to fix stuff that isn't broken.
To answer your question the snapdragon SM-G9650 varient Is OEM unlockable it is China, Brazil etc basically international version and any of the Exynos
Are I believe.
Exynos is good for development only as long as the official android is upgraded. But it's closed source with sammy proprietary blobs.
I've got a Note4 Exynos and officially it was upgraded to MM. Only because of months and years of miraculous work of a couple of developers, it's working (with a few hiccups) with TW nougat and up to oreo Lineage.
If you want to change the phone and got the cash after 2 years (or 3? ) of major upgrades from Samsung, then Exynos is OK.
As for me the OP7 (pro maybe) can cut a better deal. Huge deving possibility. And ain't got too much money to change the phone too often.
Good luck.
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To answer your question the snapdragon SM-G9650 varient Is OEM unlockable it is China, Brazil etc basically international version and any of the Exynos
Are I believe.
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Is this listing on Newegg the unlocked snapdragon variant? https://www.newegg.com/black-samsung-galaxy-s9-6-2-4g-lte/p/0V4-000B-00965?Item=9SIAENH92W4764
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Is this listing on Newegg the unlocked snapdragon variant? https://www.newegg.com/black-samsung-galaxy-s9-6-2-4g-lte/p/0V4-000B-00965?Item=9SIAENH92W4764
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Yes that's the one there's also supposedly a dual SIM card version around that has 128GB and up but don't know where you get it or much beyond it's existence
But the one you linked is what I have currently.
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Yes that's the one there's also supposedly a dual SIM card version around that has 128GB and up but don't know where you get it or much beyond it's existence
But the one you linked is what I have currently.
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So yeah, The package arrived today and it turned out to be a counterfeit reproduction S9+. And i tried to file a claim and Newegg suspended my account. I'm not sure what to do in life itself at this point.
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So yeah, The package arrived today and it turned out to be a counterfeit reproduction S9+. And i tried to file a claim and Newegg suspended my account. I'm not sure what to do in life itself at this point.
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hmm... no idea thats a first i heard of newegg sell counterfit anything but essentially the model code for snapdragon unlocked is SM-G9650 Note: there is not a letter after the zero ive seen ones SM-G9650U and SM-G9650U1 not sure difference between the three mine i got through rent a center but assume you can get them online you can try amazon at least if you get a counterfit they will do something.
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This is really a shame. No root no custom rom for a top-class phone
Will be trying my luck to get one through flipkart flash sales this week. Else I will settle for Poco X3.
I couldn't resist the flipkart deal. I have always rooted my devices the very next day of buying. Xiaomi Mi3 > Nexuz 6P > Samsung S7> Oneplus 3 > Poco F1.
Probably first time gonna get a flagship phone with no custom rom support :/
Hope this can be rooted and I can flash gsi. Can someone confirm, if this is possible?
Gopinath15 said:
This is really a shame. No root no custom rom for a top-class phone
Will be trying my luck to get one through flipkart flash sales this week. Else I will settle for Poco X3.
I couldn't resist the flipkart deal. I have always rooted my devices the very next day of buying. Xiaomi Mi3 > Nexuz 6P > Samsung S7> Oneplus 3 > Poco F1.
Probably first time gonna get a flagship phone with no custom rom support :/
Hope this can be rooted and I can flash gsi. Can someone confirm, if this is possible?
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No you can't do anything as you can't unlock the bootloader
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No you can't do anything as you can't unlock the bootloader
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If I understand currently, the European version's bootloader can be unlocked.
That's the one that's sold in India I think, basis the serial number.
Is this not the case ?
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No you can't do anything as you can't unlock the bootloader
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Hello same here. A flashoholic. But tempted to buy for the price on Flipkart during sales. Hope phone is sold in large numbers and bootloader unlock is made possible. Fingers crossed.
camlin said:
If I understand currently, the European version's bootloader can be unlocked.
That's the one that's sold in India I think, basis the serial number.
Is this not the case ?
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No. Only EU variants are unlockable, the ones in India are different
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No. Only EU variants are unlockable, the ones in India are different
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Have you tried ? I mean it should be unlockable since model number is same. US ones have a different model number anyway.
I read somewhere that EU rom can be flashed on Indian varient and the bootloader can be unlocked.
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Have you tried ? I mean it should be unlockable since model number is same. US ones have a different model number anyway.
I read somewhere that EU rom can be flashed on Indian varient and the bootloader can be unlocked.
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you read wrong then
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you read wrong then
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Flipkart sales showing coming soon Notify for me from noon. Plus member. Same for everyone or am I doing something wrong?
chandruilkal said:
Flipkart sales showing coming soon Notify for me from noon. Plus member. Same for everyone or am I doing something wrong?
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same for everyone
Sale will be at midnight for everyone for g8x.
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same for everyone
Sale will be at midnight for everyone for g8x.
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Did you buy one from Flipkart? I hope you did, so that we can get some progress for this Phone.
moneyrockers said:
Did you buy one from Flipkart? I hope you did, so that we can get some progress for this Phone.
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No I couldn't get the phone
In my pin code phone went out of stock within 2-3 seconds
I managed to order LGg8x from flipkart. I have to use like an iphone then.
Me too. I booked it as an upgrade for my poco F1. Poco is still running as good as day one but I just couldn't resist the deal and bought g8x.
The only concern i have about the phone is the developer community support.
Poco has such good developer support, and for g8x it's quite the opposite. Hope that enough units were sold in this sale to spark some community support.
I too ordered bcoz of the good specification ,I'm from 1+6t it has a huge threads and forums ,I rooted my 1+6t the day when the phone delivered, even 1+ support warranty after bootloader unlock but lg not
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Me too. I booked it as an upgrade for my poco F1. Poco is still running as good as day one but I just couldn't resist the deal and bought g8x.
The only concern i have about the phone is the developer community support.
Poco has such good developer support, and for g8x it's quite the opposite. Hope that enough units were sold in this sale to spark some community support.
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My poco f1 was good, but had battery bulge. sold it and got this. i will miss custom ROMs for sure. but irresistible offer
I too bought one from Flipkart. Hope we get community support. Even if we get support for GSI installation, its good.
Is the LM-G850UM out of luck for root? Are any developments being made. I'm considering getting a new phone because not having root is really bothering me. This phone is wonderful but no root is quite the deal breaker..
During the sale 2 models are sold in india, lucky few got the ones manufactured in india which had access to fastboot and most of the others got the phones which are manufactured in vietnam, and these dont even have access ro fastboot menu, sadly i got the vietnam one, also for people who have access to fastboot mode, lg isnt providing the key to unlock the bootloader, so possibly no root or custom rom development for this device, i hope lg will open these devices once their software release cycle is completed that is after andoid 11.
I have previously used k20 pro, and on the first day i removed miui and installed PA its just too good.
My lg g8x has issues with keyboard,closes while typing so installed google keyboard, also installed expanded view, which uses both screens as one during browsing, amd had some other issues such as random shurdowns, dont know why thats happening...
sankritya said:
Me too. I booked it as an upgrade for my poco F1. Poco is still running as good as day one but I just couldn't resist the deal and bought g8x.
The only concern i have about the phone is the developer community support.
Poco has such good developer support, and for g8x it's quite the opposite. Hope that enough units were sold in this sale to spark some community support.
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Does LG has a community/Forum for its users? I am unable to find any
So how is it with this phone?
Is it possible to unlock the bootloader on LG G8X ThinQ Dual SIM EU Version?
Have any of you done this?
There is only G8s at https://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev.
G8X is not listed.