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I have the Optimus 2X, which seems to struggle playing flash videos that are higher than 480p, yet the Motorola Atrix which also uses the Tegra 2 SoC manages to play 720p flash videos smoothly.
Could this be caused by LG not optimizing the software properly? Would a custom ROM possibly fix this problem?
daaavey said:
I have the Optimus 2X, which seems to struggle playing flash videos that are higher than 480p, yet the Motorola Atrix which also uses the Tegra 2 SoC manages to play 720p flash videos smoothly.
Could this be caused by LG not optimizing the software properly? Would a custom ROM possibly fix this problem?
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I don't think. Flash uses a lot of hardware resources, most probably its a hardware issue.
Still you can try a modified ROM and if not satisfied, revert back to your factory rom.
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I don't think. Flash uses a lot of hardware resources, most probably its a hardware issue.
Still you can try a modified ROM and if not satisfied, revert back to your factory rom.
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That's what I was thinking. But it's weird how the Atrix which has the same CPU and GPU can do it with no problems.
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daaavey said:
That's what I was thinking. But it's weird how the Atrix which has the same CPU and GPU can do it with no problems.
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My LG G2x (almost the same device ) can play 720p videos smoothly. Are you sure it's not your internet connection at fault?
P.S. - Yes, custom roms are able to improve the performance of devices.
I would consider checking if the actual ROM you are using, isn't messed up (try a clean installation and see if it continues to stutter the videos).
Also managing your apps on your device would improve (in some situations, like too less system memory to finish the rendering <- NOT sure of that one) performance.
Check the background apps - maybe you are running too many background apps, which occupie memory, and in conclusion you have too less memory to work smoothly.
And as it is for your question for the custom ROM and improoved performance - definately YES. For example HTC HD2 with stock rom of WM is way slower than a custom Adroid 2.3 GB on the same device.
Theonew said:
My LG G2x (almost the same device ) can play 720p videos smoothly. Are you sure it's not your internet connection at fault?
P.S. - Yes, custom roms are able to improve the performance of devices.
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Yeah I think my internet connection should be good enough.
It's incredibly odd though - over at GSMArena.com they had a 3 phone review featuring the Galaxy S, Galaxy SII and the Optimus 2X, and they found that the Samsungs were both able to handle 720p with no problems (the SII could handle 1080p as well), but the Optimus 2X could only go up to 480p.
This is particularly interesting to me because the Galaxy S should be much weaker than the Optimus 2X in terms of hardware.
djghost_ said:
I would consider checking if the actual ROM you are using, isn't messed up (try a clean installation and see if it continues to stutter the videos).
Also managing your apps on your device would improve (in some situations, like too less system memory to finish the rendering <- NOT sure of that one) performance.
Check the background apps - maybe you are running too many background apps, which occupie memory, and in conclusion you have too less memory to work smoothly.
And as it is for your question for the custom ROM and improoved performance - definately YES. For example HTC HD2 with stock rom of WM is way slower than a custom Adroid 2.3 GB on the same device.
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I just did an upgrade from 2.2.2 to 2.3.4 through LG, and did a factory reset shortly after.
Perhaps I'll try CM9 after its finalized.
FYI: There is a problem in the CM9 camera app which does not support video more than 480p for Galaxy SII. I have replaced the camera app with Gingerbread one and solved the problem.
Hello everyone,
I have recently been a SONY Z2 filming mainly 4K
Even if I find pretty good video (3840x2160 @ 56,000 kb/s) I'll be really happy to see better shine the eyes of my son more detail passing 100,000 kb/s see 120,000 kb/s my 64 gb μSD tested at 15 MB/s write (exFAT).
The problem is that I do not know where to go and what to do that's why I'm asking you to enlighten me.
I can provide if needed "SemcCameraUI.apk", "SuperVideoCamera.apk", or any other file.
Thank you in advance.
I am French and I translated with google translation
Thank for all :good:
Not possible, sony does the highest 4k bitrates currently for smart phones. In fact its so high that the device tends to heat up and stop recording after a while if the ambient temperature is little over 25 degrees c. 4k recording is a beta feature because it cannot be used as long as 1080p say. The present cpu has a tough time delivering as it is.
If you want better rates then you will have to use a video camera that can deliver those rates. Or wait a couple of years for mobile cpus to catch up.
One Twelve said:
Not possible, sony does the highest 4k bitrates currently for smart phones. In fact its so high that the device tends to heat up and stop recording after a while if the ambient temperature is little over 25 degrees c. 4k recording is a beta feature because it cannot be used as long as 1080p say. The present cpu has a tough time delivering as it is.
If you want better rates then you will have to use a video camera that can deliver those rates. Or wait a couple of years for mobile cpus to catch up.
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I did a test almost 15 minutes before break due to temperature knowing that I rarely exceed 1 minute youtu.be/vrBVmhQtmlo
I see no obstacle to this, I just ask to be referred but assistance will be more than better and will make many happy owners of Z2.
Btw I've seen on the app store play but diverted for photo (Z1) play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wedy.auto20mp&hl=en
I aquired my SONY Z2 thanks to a flash sale of my operator with discounts for the price of € 89 (~ $ 100) and a camcorder for $ 2000 is not possible nor a priority.
Thanks anyway for taking the trouble to reply One Twelve :angel:
Tony72000 said:
I did a test almost 15 minutes before break due to temperature knowing that I rarely exceed 1 minute youtu.be/vrBVmhQtmlo
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So we can see that at a temperature of 23 degrees c, with steady shot off that around 14 minutes recording in 4k is possible. File stored on 64GB class10 ultra. Phone is in the default sony case which you remove after five minutes.
Some people have said steady shot on or off does not make any difference to heating.
The focus hunt issue is present but only happens a little. 10 seconds out of 14 minutes. of course in 14 minutes the subject is not changing and light is decent. Focus hunt happens more often in lower light and is something sony should fix.
Tony72000 said:
I see no obstacle to this, I just ask to be referred but assistance will be more than better and will make many happy owners of Z2.
Btw I've seen on the app store play but diverted for photo (Z1) play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wedy.auto20mp&hl=en
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xposed mod for photos allows SA at 20MP. There is no similar mod with video to increase the detail.
So instead of higher bitrate how about longer record time ?
There is a thread here on undervolting to increase record time. See also this post. CPU usage is the culprit. These tests show that some increase in duration is possible so people are expecting sony to fix this in a future update soon, hopefully.
Interesting this is without steady shot, yet it does not seem too jerky.
Tony72000 said:
I aquired my SONY Z2 thanks to a flash sale of my operator with discounts for the price of € 89 (~ $ 100) and a camcorder for $ 2000 is not possible nor a priority.
Thanks anyway for taking the trouble to reply One Twelve :angel:
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a Z2 for $100 is a good deal, i will have to pay seven times that amount.
One Twelve said:
So we can see that at a temperature of 23 degrees c, with steady shot off that around 14 minutes recording in 4k is possible. File stored on 64GB class10 ultra. Phone is in the default sony case which you remove after five minutes.
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One Twelve said:
Some people have said steady shot on or off does not make any difference to heating.
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3 or 4 minutes and more
One Twelve said:
The focus hunt issue is present but only happens a little. 10 seconds out of 14 minutes. of course in 14 minutes the subject is not changing and light is decent. Focus hunt happens more often in lower light and is something sony should fix.
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We'll see if Sony fixes the problem in a future update.
One Twelve said:
xposed mod for photos allows SA at 20MP. There is no similar mod with video to increase the detail.
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That's what I'm looking for more bitrate video
One Twelve said:
So instead of higher bitrate how about longer record time ?
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More recording time would be a plus, but as my first post this is the quality that counts as soon as it is no longer in direct sunlight the picture becomes runny, I had a customized apk for my HTX one X at a bitrate @ 60 Mb / sec
One Twelve said:
There is a thread here on undervolting to increase record time. See also this post. CPU usage is the culprit. These tests show that some increase in duration is possible so people are expecting sony to fix this in a future update soon, hopefully.
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OK good thread
One Twelve said:
Interesting this is without steady shot, yet it does not seem too jerky.
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It's my dog
One Twelve said:
a Z2 for $100 is a good deal, i will have to pay seven times that amount.
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And with your operator :crying:
Tony72000 said:
3 or 4 minutes and more
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When i tested a demo z2 in the shop, temp was 25-28 degree c i got 2:30 of 4k with steady shot on, did not test with steady shot off.
Tony72000 said:
More recording time would be a plus, but as my first post this is the quality that counts as soon as it is no longer in direct sunlight the picture becomes runny, I had a customized apk for my HTX one X at a bitrate @ 60 Mb / sec
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From here we can see the bitrates
1080p @ 17Mb/s & 4k @ 55Mb/s @156kbs audio
There is a big difference between Mbs for 1080p & 4k. Maybe its possible in the future that a mod for 1080p can do more than 17Mb/s but i doubt its possible to increase 55Mbs for 4k much more.
it would be good to get a mod for higher Mbs for 1080p @60fps as most people will use that than 4k.
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in your comment for the video you say you changed from default 20Mbs on onex to 60mbs. This is a very big jump, did you really tell the difference ?
It looks nice but macro always looks good isn't it
when you move the camera i can see the frame drop because its 30fps.
Question is if you do not move much or fast its nice but any movement then it becomes little jerky ? Maybe there is some compromise here to get smooth video with movement but at slower Mbs. If you check the gsmarena link all the phones do not go above 20Mbs. And this in 2014, two years after one x.
On the HTC one X storage is on internal memory only which is very slow (SD class 2 or 4) what is really limited and lose images when capturing by against the quality is really amazing.
The advantage of SONY Z2 is the support of the μSD with a good class U1 is more than meets the problem with my HTC One X which I modified the apk
The level 5.1 accepts bitrate 300000 kbps HIGH Profile 3840×2160 @ 31.7 fps :victory:
Possible bitrate of h264 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264
Original HTC One X bitrate vs 60 Mb/sec ul.to/nihixzld
I have not found a solution yet... No idea for find and change the video bitrate (apk, registry, other)?
One Twelve said:
Not possible, sony does the highest 4k bitrates currently for smart phones. In fact its so high that the device tends to heat up and stop recording after a while if the ambient temperature is little over 25 degrees c. 4k recording is a beta feature because it cannot be used as long as 1080p say. The present cpu has a tough time delivering as it is.
If you want better rates then you will have to use a video camera that can deliver those rates. Or wait a couple of years for mobile cpus to catch up.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519180
Your statement is entirely wrong. Samsung cam mod here does allowed to change 4k videobit(default is 48Mbit) and they don't have problem to use like 65Mbit or 80Mbit and they don't have overheating problem. This is only Sony's fault.
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Tony72000 said:
I have not found a solution yet... No idea for find and change the video bitrate (apk, registry, other)?
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There is a setting in SuperVideoCamera.apk regarding 4k bitrate and default is 55Mbit, I've tried to set it to 65Mbit but nothing happen, there is no 4k bitrate setting in SemcCameraUI.apk though.
The default 4k bitrate highest available in media_profiles.xml on z2 is already set at 100Mbit which is the max support value by s800/s801(from my understanding, Samsung is also only up to 100Mbit and this should be the s800/s801 limit). I think there is some other place locked it at 55Mbit in /system or kernel.
P.S. Can you share your 60Mbit camera.apk on One X? Which android ver of your camera.apk? I've got a HTC One S but my apk only max at 40Mbit.
TheEndHK said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519180
Your statement is entirely wrong. Samsung cam mod here does allowed to change 4k videobit(default is 48Mbit) and they don't have problem to use like 65Mbit or 80Mbit and they don't have overheating problem. This is only Sony's fault.
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There is a setting in SuperVideoCamera.apk regarding 4k bitrate and default is 55Mbit, I've tried to set it to 65Mbit but nothing happen, there is no 4k bitrate setting in SemcCameraUI.apk though.
The default 4k bitrate highest available in media_profiles.xml on z2 is already set at 100Mbit which is the max support value by s800/s801(from my understanding, Samsung is also only up to 100Mbit and this should be the s800/s801 limit). I think there is some other place locked it at 55Mbit in /system or kernel.
P.S. Can you share your 60Mbit camera.apk on One X? Which android ver of your camera.apk? I've got a HTC One S but my apk only max at 40Mbit.
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I have:
Android version 4.4.2
Build number 17.1.2.A.0.314
CPU MSM8974PRO-AB
Model D6503
Yes APK here tested with HTC One X
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Tony72000 said:
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I have:
Android version 4.4.2
Build number 17.1.2.A.0.314
CPU MSM8974PRO-AB
Model D6503
Yes APK here tested with HTC One X
ul.to/jztjdy6v
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Thanks for your sharing but I want to know which Android OS ver you are running the One X apk? 4.1.1, 4.2.2, 4.3?
TheEndHK said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519180
Your statement is entirely wrong. Samsung cam mod here does allowed to change 4k videobit(default is 48Mbit) and they don't have problem to use like 65Mbit or 80Mbit and they don't have overheating problem. This is only Sony's fault.
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Does it work on the Z2 ?
Until it does what i said stands.
One Twelve said:
Does it work on the Z2 ?
Until it does what i said stands.
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Your concept is wrong again. I can mod the 1080P bitrate to 80Mbit on Sony and works great. We can't do it on 4k because there is some place locked the bitrate at 55Mbit in /system or kernel as I mention earlier and we don't have enough skills to find it out.
Note3/S4/S5 is also based on s800/801 and DDR3 architecture, they can do it without problem meant this is only Sony's fail. BTW, it already proved 55Mbit is not the highest workable 4k bitrate in the world.
TheEndHK said:
Your concept is wrong again. I can mod the 1080P bitrate to 80Mbit on Sony and works great. We can't do it on 4k because there is some place locked the bitrate at 55Mbit in /system or kernel as I mention earlier and we don't have enough skills to find it out.
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Ergo its not possible on the Z2 yet.
How do you find 1080p at 80Mbs, 30fps is 17Mbs, 60fps is 30mbs. How is 1080p frame rate at 80mbs ?
TheEndHK said:
Note3/S4/S5 is also based on s800/801 and DDR3 architecture, they can do it without problem meant this is only Sony's fail. BTW, it already proved 55Mbit is not the highest workable 4k bitrate in the world.
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So may be possible in the future but not now. But i doubt it given the heating. yes if the temp is 10 degrees c where you are or you are ok with 1-2 minute clips then its possible.
One Twelve said:
Ergo its not possible on the Z2 yet.
How do you find 1080p at 80Mbs, 30fps is 17Mbs, 60fps is 30mbs. How is 1080p frame rate at 80mbs ?
So may be possible in the future but not now. But i doubt it given the heating. yes if the temp is 10 degrees c where you are or you are ok with 1-2 minute clips then its possible.
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[email protected] the bitrate is changeable, however both 60fps is locked at 30Mbit/s and [email protected] is locked at 50Mbit in /system or kernel.
Actually, I own a z1c not z2 but I can do the 4k with mod. I think the heat control is a bit better on our 4.4.4(I know z2 still no 4.4.4 implied Sony said z1/z1c is the real flagship from user number base of view... lol). I've tested I could do [email protected] or 4K for 20mins length in an Okay environment, the temp is managed to not over 41.5 degrees c but if I put the phone under direct sun light during in summer time, the overheat problem may appear.
TheEndHK said:
I've tested I could do [email protected] or 4K for 20mins length in an Okay environment, the temp is managed to not over 41.5 degrees c but if I put the phone under direct sun light during in summer time, the overheat problem may appear.
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OP can record 4k for around 15mins at 22 degrees c as shown in his YT video. So there is hope, just don't know when 4k at higher than 55 Mbs will be possible.
I wonder is there really so much difference between 55Mbs and say 80Mbs in 4k
If you can record for longer time [email protected] its better isn't it ?
1080p at 30fps @80Mbs vs 17Mbs will have a bigger difference.
One Twelve said:
OP can record 4k for around 15mins at 22 degrees c as shown in his YT video. So there is hope, just don't know when 4k at higher than 55 Mbs will be possible.
I wonder is there really so much difference between 55Mbs and say 80Mbs in 4k
If you can record for longer time [email protected] its better isn't it ?
1080p at 30fps @80Mbs vs 17Mbs will have a bigger difference.
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The problem mainly comes from the H264 encoder produced real bad video quality on z1/z2 series. I've got some 4k source files from note3/s4, they are much better than z1/z2 but bear in mind they are still using Sony sensor(13M ExmorRS).
The 17.5M default [email protected] quality is even much worse than my old Xperia S(default is 20M in ICS but much better result). I've also got a HTC One S which shoot at 1080P 40Mbit and I need to use at least 65 ~ 70M to achieve the same quality level.
Theoretically, you may not real need such high bitrate but in practical, Sony 's software development is very poor this time and we need super high bitrate to fix problem.
Since I've been roll back 4.4.2 now for better compatibility with some of my older apps so I can't test it again on 4.4.4 on my z1c. But I just tested I could shoot 14:25 mins of 4K length on sdcard before it stopped and the phone reported 47.5 degree c. The heat control on 4.4.4 may a bit better.
Tony72000 said:
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I have:
Android version 4.4.2
Build number 17.1.2.A.0.314
CPU MSM8974PRO-AB
Model D6503
Yes APK here tested with HTC One X
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54805924&postcount=17
Try it ... should all 4K, [email protected], TimeShift Video work at 80Mbit/s now.
Tony72000 said:
I have recently been a SONY Z2 filming mainly 4K
Even if I find pretty good video (3840x2160 @ 56,000 kb/s) I'll be really happy to see better shine the eyes of my son more detail passing 100,000 kb/s see 120,000 kb/s my 64 gb μSD tested at 15 MB/s write (exFAT).
The problem is that I do not know where to go and what to do that's why I'm asking you to enlighten me.
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Some developments here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/general/testers-z2-4k-bitrate-mod-t2845509
80Mbs
I need to learn how to read! As soon as I Deodexed the Rom the mods worked perfectly!
If someone have SM-G850F (Samsung Galaxy Alpha). He can write me his opinion about this phone. He's look gorgeous, and performance look fine for me. But all experiance and opinions are welcome. And i really care about battery life. Its only just 1860 mAh. Is that's okay ?
I'm one of standard user's (just texting and calls, facebook and whats'app ) . Is this will be enough for me ?
Thanks. :angel:
Sorry if my English poor.
Buy another spare battery its removable.
According to GSMarena galaxy alpha had 52hours endurance rating so if you have two batteries then a total of 104hours hehe!
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_alpha-review-1118p3.php
I bought this spare battery charger so I can charge my spare back up battery
Performance is excellent I think on par or in between Snapdragon 808 and 810
Thanks to 720p resolution the GPU can load faster graphics compare to heavy 1080p to 4k resolutions, besides its a compact 4.7 inch device so there's no problem even not full HD.
As of today there's no huge difference when you play a game on a 4k resolution or 720p resolution
Clickme
Execept in terms of speed, huge resolutions needs a powerful GPU to render those graphics well while 720p resolutions like Galaxy Alpha (see attachments) can render faster graphics much smoother.
4k resolutions = same visuals(720p) but less FPS
720p resolutions = same visuals(4k) but much faster FPS
So which do you prefer?
I like compact a phone, easy to handle and to operate and of course not eye catching especially in public places.
Anyway having a powerful and a compact device like galaxy alpha
is just like this Clickme
exaflare said:
Buy another spare battery its removable.
According to GSMarena galaxy alpha had 52hours endurance rating so if you have two batteries then a total of 104hours hehe!
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_alpha-review-1118p3.php
I bought this spare battery charger so I can charge my spare back up battery
Performance is excellent I think on par or in between Snapdragon 808 and 810
Thanks to 720p resolution the GPU can load faster graphics compare to heavy 1080p to 4k resolutions, besides its a compact 4.7 inch device so there's no problem even not full HD.
As of today there's no huge difference when you play a game on a 4k resolution or 720p resolution
Clickme
Execept in terms of speed, huge resolutions needs a powerful GPU to render those graphics well while 720p resolutions like Galaxy Alpha (see attachments) can render faster graphics much smoother.
4k resolutions = same visuals(720p) but less FPS
720p resolutions = same visuals(4k) but much faster FPS
So which do you prefer?
I like compact a phone, easy to handle and to operate and of course not eye catching especially in public places.
Anyway having a powerful and a compact device like galaxy alpha
is just like this Clickme
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Oh thanks for nice answer. Bro, if u can, come to my inbox i wanna talk about this phone with more details
Lakisa97 said:
Oh thanks for nice answer. Bro, if u can, come to my inbox i wanna talk about this phone with more details
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I suggest we continue to talk here in this thread instead via private message, of course there's some info which I don't know but if someone knew it then they can help you decide right?
exaflare said:
I suggest we continue to talk here in this thread instead via private message, of course there's some info which I don't know but if someone knew it then they can help you decide right?
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Right.
Do you have this phone ? What's your's experiance with him ?
Lakisa97 said:
Right.
Do you have this phone ? What's your's experiance with him ?
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yes of course, mine is Galaxy Alpha SM-G850L a different variant but same chipset to SM-G850F.
performance is excellent Thanks to 720p resolution and the Mali-T628MP6 hexacore
camera is great and also the video recording especially in 1080P full HD 60fps beats the iPhone 6
see this for proof Click me
exaflare said:
yes of course, mine is Galaxy Alpha SM-G850L a different variant but same chipset to SM-G850F.
performance is excellent Thanks to 720p resolution and the Mali-T628MP6 hexacore
camera is great and also the video recording especially in 1080P full HD 60fps beats the iPhone 6
see this for proof Click me
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Thank you. I decide to buy this phone for 5 days.
Only thing i need on phone is:
Nice design (Alpha got perfect)
Smoothly working ( I think that's great on Alpha)
I use only apps for messages and others little stuff. But everything has to work perfectly
Lakisa97 said:
Thank you. I decide to buy this phone for 5 days.
Only thing i need on phone is:
Nice design (Alpha got perfect)
Smoothly working ( I think that's great on Alpha)
I use only apps for messages and others little stuff. But everything has to work perfectly
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Thats nice, I always use my galaxy alpha for this see my attachment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Das_lYSODo
This is how Oneplus X performs on low-light conditions, is this software related?
Update: It seems to be hardware related, Oneplus X uses the AA version of the SD 801 which is the weakest version with a GPU performance that loses to phones 2-3 years old. I don't know if this is related to the camera but I already feel cheated as this CPU was marketed as "very similar" to the OPO, this explains why it stays miles away from the OPO and is beaten by phones like the Xiaomi mi 4 which is in the same prince range.
Bummer. I shoot useful video like that all the time.
CafeKampuchia said:
Bummer. I shoot useful video like that all the time.
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It's not only in low-light conditions, people complain that the phone has major lags when it's correcting the light mid-video on bright days.
rylark said:
It's not only in low-light conditions, people complain that the phone has major lags when it's correcting the light mid-video on bright days.
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I'm waiting to see what the professional reviews say before drawing conclusions. Even so, I still won't care because I normally don't use my phone to record meaningful HD video.
Just so you're aware, the SOC isn't simply the AA model. It's the MSM8974PROAA. The PRO means that it still has the high end 578mhz gpu. It should dominate current games, yet it doesnt. It's most definitely software related, and oneplus need to get this sorted. Stop misleading people, the phone is technically very powerful. It's Oxygen OS that's letting it down.
rylark said:
Oneplus X uses the AA version of the SD 801 which is the weakest version with a GPU performance that loses to phones 2-3 years old.
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Nonsense.
Like someone already said it's AA Pro version which is really good. Game performance and video lagging is software related for sure. Probably due to poor default governor.
OP works on fix already, but wait for some custom roms. This phone is going to fly.
Znamir81 said:
Nonsense.
Like someone already said it's AA Pro version which is really good. Game performance and video lagging is software related for sure. Probably due to poor default governor.
OP works on fix already, but wait for some custom roms. This phone is going to fly.
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I second this.
Znamir81 said:
Nonsense.
Like someone already said it's AA Pro version which is really good. Game performance and video lagging is software related for sure. Probably due to poor default governor.
OP works on fix already, but wait for some custom roms. This phone is going to fly.
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charliebigpot said:
I second this.
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3rd!
People that blame the CPU for the current performance state of this device clearly don't know very much.
With the kernel blu_spark r25 I have way better performances on Fallout Shelter than with the stock kernel!
Petronius42 said:
With the kernel blu_spark r25 I have way better performances on Fallout Shelter than with the stock kernel!
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Yeah but you have to be rooted an unlocked which means you won't get any OTA.
geko95gek said:
Yeah but you have to be rooted an unlocked which means you won't get any OTA.
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I rooted my device without unlocking bootloader.
I than tampered a little bit with the cpu and got way better performance in games as well
I considered flashing that kernel, too, but didn't want the hassle of resetting my device for it (unlocking bootloader). I'll do that when more custom roms are available.
CPU GOVENOR: ONDEMAND
I/O Scheduler: Scheduler: cfq & Read-ahead: 2048kb
geko95gek said:
Yeah but you have to be rooted an unlocked which means you won't get any OTA.
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you wont get ota if you mess with system partition = rooting
but it doesnt matter if you unlock -> backup boot -> flash blu_spark
and if ota is available you restore boot and flash ota
geko95gek said:
Yeah but you have to be rooted an unlocked which means you won't get any OTA.
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True, but by the time they fix with OTA we will probably have several custom ROMs.
bubbl3 said:
True, but by the time they fix with OTA we will probably have several custom ROMs.
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Hopefully the OTA will come next week.
Prykie1995 said:
Just so you're aware, the SOC isn't simply the AA model. It's the MSM8974PROAA. The PRO means that it still has the high end 578mhz gpu. It should dominate current games, yet it doesnt. It's most definitely software related, and oneplus need to get this sorted. Stop misleading people, the phone is technically very powerful. It's Oxygen OS that's letting it down.
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PRO just defines that its a SD801 and not SD800
since they both are MSM8974
ckret said:
PRO just defines that its a SD801 and not SD800
since they both are MSM8974
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Not really sure. In all the charts I've seen online the "AA" model of the 801 has a 450mhz gpu. I've benched the X and it has the 578mhz and a clear PROAA designation. Did some tests with gaming too. Even running riptide gp2 with all the graphics settings on off/minimum, it stutters. That just shouldn't happen on ANY 800 series. Just hoping people don't underestimate what this phone "should" be capable of
Prykie1995 said:
Not really sure. In all the charts I've seen online the "AA" model of the 801 has a 450mhz gpu. I've benched the X and it has the 578mhz and a clear PROAA designation. Did some tests with gaming too. Even running riptide gp2 with all the graphics settings on off/minimum, it stutters. That just shouldn't happen on ANY 800 series. Just hoping people don't underestimate what this phone "should" be capable of
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just because it displays the frequency doesnt mean the gpu will ever reach it
indeed the soc should have a better performance. i still guess its really bad software and they will fix it in future ota
ckret said:
just because it displays the frequency doesnt mean the gpu will ever reach it
indeed the soc should have a better performance. i still guess its really bad software and they will fix it in future ota
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I this iteration of the 801 has the talent to be an absolute beast. Just need to have decent firmware to run it.
Apparently the Oxygen kernel code is so messy.
Comments on MSM8974ProAA gaming performance
Prykie1995 said:
Just so you're aware, the SOC isn't simply the AA model. It's the MSM8974PROAA. The PRO means that it still has the high end 578mhz gpu. It should dominate current games, yet it doesnt. It's most definitely software related, and oneplus need to get this sorted. Stop misleading people, the phone is technically very powerful. It's Oxygen OS that's letting it down.
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I far as i know the MSM8974PROAA has indeed the high GPU freq. (578 MHz) but compared to AB and AC variants it has much lower ISP freq. and RAM Memory Interface freq. I've an OPX E1003 with Antutu 5.7 3D score of ~11000, whereas the Galaxy S5 scores ~13500, so 22 percent better in gaming according to Antutu. The total antutu score is sligtly lower than of the Galaxy S5, but it seems largely to have to do with 3D performance.
But I noticed using a Usage Monitor app that Asphalt 8 really doesn't push this phone to the max (CPU and GPU wise) ánd has a low framerate (might be app specific issue). With the same Usage Monitor I found out Antutu 5.7 3D pushes the GPU freq. to the max (578 MHz) but still scores significantly below Galaxy S5. Gaming NFS Most Wanted is okey, but GTA San Andreas has lower framerates than expected. I didn't expect the differences between 2 SnapDragon 801 variants to be this big!
Is the accelerometer issue in RN3 SD650 version solved? I have to choose one b/w RN3 and Moto G4 Plus, RN3 has better specs in less bucks but I saw there is a problem with Gyroscope/Accelerometer, so please tell me if it's solved in the MIUI8 6.7.5 Global beta as soon as possible.
This problem seem to occur only on MM roms since official drivers for these sensors are not yet released and also something to know is that also light sensor does not seem to work on MM roms. Though, Redmi Note 3 Pro does not have any problems in stock rom and battery is a major concern if you decide to buy Moto G4 since our Remi Note 3 is a battery Monster. (What I said before about the sensors is tested by me but i have only tesetd it in two roms the XOSP and Santosh's CM13, so I don't know if this problem persists in other roms like banmeifyouwant's MM)
Xristomania said:
This problem seem to occur only on MM roms since official drivers for these sensors are not yet released and also something to know is that also light sensor does not seem to work on MM roms. Though, Redmi Note 3 Pro does not have any problems in stock rom and battery is a major concern if you decide to buy Moto G4 since our Remi Note 3 is a battery Monster. (What I said before about the sensors is tested by me but i have only tesetd it in two roms the XOSP and Santosh's CM13, so I don't know if this problem persists in other roms like banmeifyouwant's MM)
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People are saying that accelerometer stops working while playing games like Asphalt (on stock ROM)
shailendra1993 said:
People are saying that accelerometer stops working while playing games like Asphalt (on stock ROM)
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That hasn't happened to me. At least on the stock Rom. The only problems I had was with the orientation which i always had a fast and secure fix for it and it always work. Though, we wait from Xiaomi to fix all these in the next few stable updates.
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That hasn't happened to me. At least on the stock Rom. The only problems I had was with the orientation which i always had a fast and secure fix for it and it always work. Though, we wait from Xiaomi to fix all these in the next few stable updates.
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The forum posts said that when the device is on Auto Brightness, the gyroscope/accelerometer gives problem in low light. This issue has been there since 4 months and Xiaomi promised a fix in MIUI8, but it's still is not fixed. Can you please confirm this :
http://en.miui.com/thread-284597-1-1.html
It's urgent
Send me an app to test the sensors and I will play asphalt with gyro and accel to confirm.
Xristomania said:
Send me an app to test the sensors and I will play asphalt with gyro and accel to confirm.
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NVM, how is the ram management and multitasking with 3GB RAM?
shailendra1993 said:
NVM, how is the ram management and multitasking with 3GB RAM?
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I still haven't succeeded to make it lag. Also, a dev released Camera2API for Redmi Note 3 Pro
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Send me an app to test the sensors and I will play asphalt with gyro and accel to confirm.
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Turn off auto brightness and open default "Compass" app that comes with MIUI. Rotate your phone and you will see smooth compass rotation on phone screen. Now turn on auto brightness and see how compass lags when rotating. You will need to cover top part of phone (above screen) with your arm to simulate night if you do this test at daytime.
MIUI 8 has the same bug, they did not fix it. This lag is probably the reason why sensors die after some time when playing games.
uoiea0 said:
Turn off auto brightness and open default "Compass" app that comes with MIUI. Rotate your phone and you will see smooth compass rotation on phone screen. Now turn on auto brightness and see how compass lags when rotating. You will need to cover top part of phone (above screen) with your arm to simulate night if you do this test at daytime.
MIUI 8 has the same bug, they did not fix it. This lag is probably the reason why sensors die after some time when playing games.
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Just did it and no lag at all.
Maybe you did not cover top part of phone completely. To be sure, try it again tonight in a completely dark room (you do not need to cover phone in that case) and report then what happens.
Temporary solution until they fix this problem is to not use auto brightness.
uoiea0 said:
Maybe you did not cover top part of phone completely. To be sure, try it again tonight in a completely dark room (you do not need to cover phone in that case) and report then what happens.
Temporary solution until they fix this problem is to not use auto brightness.
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Tested it at night. Still the same. I guessed you meant to test it with open automatic brightness and I tried that way and the lag was not actually much. I noticed the difference but this is something caused by the hardware optimization that Xiaomi has to do. This has to do with software and hardware optimization as normally the sensor should be used by a single source and not by many.
sometime i have this problem on miui, but i use the developer rom
With auto brighness disabled, "Compass" app runs very smooth at probably 30 or maybe even 60FPS. Can't tell because it is perfectly smooth. When you enable auto brighness, you get around 5FPS. So, i would disagree with anyone saying that lag is barely noticeable. Imagine using this phone on auto brightness inside Google Cardboard. It is impossible.
Again, temporary solution is to disable auto brightness before using any sensor based app.
http://en.miui.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=312976&page=1&extra=#pid5690337
It's solution.
Pawel978 said:
http://en.miui.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=312976&page=1&extra=#pid5690337
It's solution.
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It is a solution for different problem - for people that have vendor rom and their sensors do not work at all. They will still have lag and sensors stopping working with auto brightness after applying above fix.
uoiea0 said:
It is a solution for different problem - for people that have vendor rom and their sensors do not work at all. They will still have lag and sensors stopping working with auto brightness after applying above fix.
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Now i know. I try this and my problem with sensors still isn't fixed.
welcome to this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-3/themes/xposed-trying-to-solve-light-sensor-bug-t3426933
In redmi 3s prime, all sensors are lagging like in compass app. But even after switching off auto brightness, problem is still there.
Here is a Solution to fix all Sensor working Back.. Some days ago mine all sensors was Stop working after flashing MIUI Special Election Fastboot ROM.. Then after Follow this guide mine all Sensor working Back again...
Only flash this image file to get back your all the Working Sensors..
http://en.miui.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=312976&mobile=2
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