Fast battery charging - Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Questions & Answers

Hi friends!
I'm not an expert, but to me, this seems very strange. I understand that the Redmi Note 4 supports fast charging, but how fast is that actually and how does it work? For example, with the stock charger which is 5V and 2A, my phone from 1% to 100% is charged in about 1 hour and few minutes. The battery is 4100mAh , so for the stock charger it would take approx. 2 hours (plus-minus). Can anybody explain to me how the hell is my phone charged in around 70 minutes? In the different roms, there were different charging times, actually longer. Now with the AOSP custom rom, my phone is fully charged in around 1 hour. Not that i'm complaining, i'm just curious.

That's an interesting question.
I always have known it to be:
>4100maH Battery
>Charging at 2A
Therefore:
4.1AH / 2A = 2.05 hours
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Wilderone said:
4.1AH / 2A = 2.05 hours
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Math, the Queen

Fast charging depends on processor capability. Redmi note 4 have 625 SD processor which supports quick charge 3.0. If you go for higher end phones with 8XX Snapdragon processor they have quick charge 4.0 , it will even take less time to charge. You can google about the science behind this, but to the best of my knowledge quick charge 3.0 passes higher current minimizing resistance during charge process. One small detail you can notice, fast charging charges battery upto 80% pretty faster & after that speed of charging slows which is needed to prevent battery from exploding. Almost all fast charging adv says "0-80% in xyz miniutes", hardly anyone advertise 0-100% in xyz mins.

Could you mention, which rom are you using?

as far as i know, 625 supports QC 3
but xiaomi didn't activate it in the kernel hence only QC 2 is working...

Are you getting the same 10 hours of SoT in 1 full charge?
If yes, then what ROM / Kernel you're on?

People are here in this forum randomly talk about SOT & VULCAN API i highly appreciate if anyone explain... Thanks

SoT: Screen on Time, the time you can use your phone with the screen is active e.g. watch a video, text someone...
There is a difference between between SoT and Standby time. You can have a SoT of 12 hours while you carry your phone around 2 days.
Vulkan API: I refer to Wikipedia : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulkan_(API)

Very fast!!
Could you please share Rom and Kernel version ?

Yes my battery also charges quite fast on stock Miui rom & the charging graph looks quite straight up but not as fast as turbo charging of moto. Though I never reached below 53% yet because my screen on usage per day on average is 6.30hrs and I get it there by 53%
One thing I'd like to know if it's for everyone.
As I power on the charger connecting to the phone it generates some hiss sound. Listen up closely.
But if I power on charger without connecting phone then there is no such sound.

ekin_strops said:
Hi friends!
I'm not an expert, but to me, this seems very strange. I understand that the Redmi Note 4 supports fast charging, but how fast is that actually and how does it work? For example, with the stock charger which is 5V and 2A, my phone from 1% to 100% is charged in about 1 hour and few minutes. The battery is 4100mAh , so for the stock charger it would take approx. 2 hours (plus-minus). Can anybody explain to me how the hell is my phone charged in around 70 minutes? In the different roms, there were different charging times, actually longer. Now with the AOSP custom rom, my phone is fully charged in around 1 hour. Not that i'm complaining, i'm just curious.
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you need battery calibration.Your battery_stats is messed up after all the rom flashing.Download a battery calibration app
You can't charge this phone in one hour.

Based on the latest Miui8 development version changes, keep the original, no replacement for any official app, partially built-in streamlined
The use of self translation kernel, CPU can be overclocking to 2.2g, GPU can be overclocking to 700, the default does not exceed, open the performance mode will automatically overclocking
Supports f2fs and supports only data and cache partitions
Open fast flush support, use qc3.0's head charge status bar will show fast flush icon, the first use must complete shutdown, then reboot will be effective, direct restart invalid
With 5 charging head test voltage current at around 6.2, at about 2.8, the temperature at around 46
Don't wash fast charge when playing, Caution!, attention to the heat
Android core crack, can be free to delete the millet frame kami
Turn on camera street beat mode to optimize imaging effect
Integrated ROOT, Shuangqing after failure, re Su can brush card
I've been using it for over a month, and it doesn't have any problems. It can be used safely.
I sent it here and I hope it will be able to recompile it so that it can be used on all ROM.
Because this kernel can only be used on the author's ROM, there will be no WIFI if you brush the kernel on other ROM.
It can also be used on the AEX ROM, but it's also a kernel modified by someone else.
I asked a few great gods, they said that the kernel is matched with the WIFI, and then nothing.
I sent it here in the hope that a great God can fix it and use it, and I'm not afraid of the danger. Let me be a white mouse. If you can, I want you to contact me and let me do the test.
We all use QQ in China. My number is 371632477. Through it, you can find me.
I have no way to send address links in the forums
Reprinted from (jun-ao) large self translation fast charge package
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在中国有一个作者他自编译了一个快充内核
QC 3.0的内核,他充电只需要一个小时左右。
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Here is an address, which is compiled by a Chinese author of the fast charging kernel 3. The addresses will be sent out separately because I can't send the link
pan.baidu
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pan.baidu
.com/s/1bpao02N
Connecting the two together is the address of the ROM
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I don't know how to upload pictures I use now is AEX the ROM also used his kernel fast charge as long as 1 hours or so WIFI and AEX the ROM supporting so can use WIFI but in other ROM do not use if you can help me to repair it will be a good kernel if you need the kernel add my QQ 371632477

371632477 said:
Based on the latest Miui8 development version changes, keep the original, no replacement for any official app, partially built-in streamlined
The use of self translation kernel, CPU can be overclocking to 2.2g, GPU can be overclocking to 700, the default does not exceed, open the performance mode will automatically overclocking
Supports f2fs and supports only data and cache partitions
Open fast flush support, use qc3.0's head charge status bar will show fast flush icon, the first use must complete shutdown, then reboot will be effective, direct restart invalid
With 5 charging head test voltage current at around 6.2, at about 2.8, the temperature at around 46
Don't wash fast charge when playing, Caution!, attention to the heat
Android core crack, can be free to delete the millet frame kami
Turn on camera street beat mode to optimize imaging effect
Integrated ROOT, Shuangqing after failure, re Su can brush card
I've been using it for over a month, and it doesn't have any problems. It can be used safely.
I sent it here and I hope it will be able to recompile it so that it can be used on all ROM.
Because this kernel can only be used on the author's ROM, there will be no WIFI if you brush the kernel on other ROM.
It can also be used on the AEX ROM, but it's also a kernel modified by someone else.
I asked a few great gods, they said that the kernel is matched with the WIFI, and then nothing.
I sent it here in the hope that a great God can fix it and use it, and I'm not afraid of the danger. Let me be a white mouse. If you can, I want you to contact me and let me do the test.
We all use QQ in China. My number is 371632477. Through it, you can find me.
I have no way to send address links in the forums
Reprinted from (jun-ao) large self translation fast charge package
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在中国有一个作者他自编译了一个快充内核
QC 3.0的内核,他充电只需要一个小时左右。
---------- Post added at 03:58 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:50 PM ----------
Here is an address, which is compiled by a Chinese author of the fast charging kernel 3. The addresses will be sent out separately because I can't send the link
pan.baidu
---------- Post added at 03:59 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:58 PM ----------
pan.baidu
.com/s/1bpao02N
Connecting the two together is the address of the ROM
---------- Post added at 04:09 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:59 PM ----------
I don't know how to upload pictures I use now is AEX the ROM also used his kernel fast charge as long as 1 hours or so WIFI and AEX the ROM supporting so can use WIFI but in other ROM do not use if you can help me to repair it will be a good kernel if you need the kernel add my QQ 371632477
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Can someone translate it to English haha?

I can't speak English, I'm sorry! I use translation software to translate my Chinese into English, if it has anything wrong, please forgive me. I am from China, a fast charging can work the kernel, here the author modifies it, to make it all work on ROM, I tested the fast charging kernel revised others, you can use AEX and DU. But there's no way WIFI doesn't work on other ROM

Wilderone said:
That's an interesting question.
I always have known it to be:
>4100maH Battery
>Charging at 2A
Therefore:
4.1AH / 2A = 2.05 hours
Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk
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I am so sorry to tell you, you forgot that the 2A are connected to 5V input -> 10W
The battery is a "BN41" with 4.4V and min 4.0Ah and 15.4Wh -> in theory 15.4Wh / 10W ~ 1.5h with a power factor of 100, but there will be loss as heat is generated during the charging. In order to charge the battery a BMS(either by the SoC or added circuit) is required, which will produce a loss of usable power, hence the higher charging time.
The out of the box charger of my Redmi Note 4 Global is a EU charger rated 5V 2A but never goes above ~1.3A+/-1% (meassured with a Keweisi KWS-10VA USB tester).
A 5V 1.5A USB(*1) and a 5V 8A USB(*6) power supply gives ~1.45A and my 5V3.1A car charger (2xUSB with alternating display for voltage, current and temperature) delivers a bit over 2A.
I read in reviews (cannot remember where) that the Xiaomi US charger for the Redmi 4x SD delivers a higher current, even when connected to 230V.

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I have a similar issue, expect my Jiayu only shows 1% all the time. Its started when I put a SIM card in it.
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Hi. I recently purchased a jiayu g2f and I have the same issue with the battery staying at 1% for a couple of hours. Is there any solution? Thanks in advance
If I had a problem with extreme consumption, it was jammed synchronization. Turn off automatic synchronization and blocked entry to sync manually.
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it is the problems of mainboard
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StaryMuz said:
If I had a problem with extreme consumption, it was jammed synchronization. Turn off automatic synchronization and blocked entry to sync manually.
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in my indea ,i think it is the proplems of touch screen

Is it possible to limit the rate of charge to 500 mA by software?

My understanding is that a high rate of charging heats the battery excessively, causing it to degrade faster. This could be prevented more easily if it was possible to limit charge rate (to, for example, 500 mA) using a suitable app. Is that possible?
I dont think so.... current is determined by battery source & resistance. Without a variable resistor that can be control through some software. Not sure how that would go. I dont think phones are made now to run at variable currents with stability. I know some devices can run at lower currents with a set current as the absolute max.... anything above you are going to destroy the device. Smartphones now arr like computers & pretty close to being just as sensitive as one too.
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I know you can use other chargers with lower currents to charge your device
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Some kernels have option to disable fast charging option or you can you a low current charger or use ur pc to charge phone

Charging speed

To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Lenovo Zuk Z2 Pro can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
my phone takes a long time to charge using the standard Zuk charger, I use the Motorola turbo charger and it's much faster, full charge in 1h
AEX rom with a qc3.0 charger
first your ZUK Z2pro must be rooted and install an app called "镧·系统工具箱"。
then you need a AEX rom and a qc3.0 charger
and enjoy a faster charger rate
你是中国的?????哈哈,:d:d:d:d
我用"镧·系统工具箱"功率最高只有16W,比官方的13w块不到哪去,你的最高多少W????
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FranKJLeung said:
first your ZUK Z2pro must be rooted and install an app called "镧·系统工具箱"。
then you need a AEX rom and a qc3.0 charger
and enjoy a faster charger rate
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用"镧·系统工具箱"你的充电功率最高多少w?
gtawu12138 said:
你是中国的?????哈哈,:d:d:d:d
我用"镧·系统工具箱"功率最高只有16W,比官方的13w块不到哪去,你的最高多少W????
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用"镧·系统工具箱"你的充电功率最高多少w?
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最高试过19w 当时刷的是aex4.5。不过也就维持了几分钟就掉到16w左右了。哈哈你好啊同胞
just try this config for fast charging while screen is on it boosted from 0.4 to 1.3A minimum. place it in /vendor/etc or /system/etc depending on your firmware (treble or non-treble), backup old file first and rename this .txt to .conf
requires root!
p.s. will also make gpu throttling go less, so will reduce lags in pubg
asimoneo said:
just try this config for fast charging while screen is on it boosted from 0.4 to 1.3A minimum. place it in /vendor/etc or /system/etc depending on your firmware (treble or non-treble), backup old file first and rename this .txt to .conf
requires root!
p.s. will also make gpu throttling go less, so will reduce lags in pubg
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Does this give better battery life/slower battery drain?
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MRDA1981 said:
Does this give better battery life/slower battery drain?
Sent from my ZUK Z2121 using Tapatalk
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no, it doesn't affect battery life at all. has nothing to do with it.

battery life terrible

my phone old 1week. terrible battery life. always on screen 1hour.. from 90% to 73% i used phone for messenger a little bit, facebook little bit and you can see status battery. tell me what to do... battery cant live for 10 SOT...... when i see in youtubes videos ,9 SOT... and the brigtness is always set from test you see and i dont pull lower or highter brightness on the test.... and i turn off 4g internet and i used 3g
hello , you need root or adb to enable extended battery stats for example from this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gsamlabs.bbm , and DELETE/DISABLE FACEBOOK it would kill any battery no matter what capacity
Look like a defective product to me. if you just unboxed it a week ago, you better off returning it and get a replacement.
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oh by the way, you shouldn't root the phone just yet, it make it harder to return.
U are kidding? 53 min after take off from charging and 50 min sot with heavly using fb.What u ecspect
kris555777 said:
U are kidding? 53 min after take off from charging and 50 min sot with heavly using fb.What u ecspect
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Facebook? its just a 7min or 5min its heavy? i think 1-2 hour is more heavier than just 7min......... and i not using 50min just Facebook, i used 7min Facebook and The application called vinted its a application forum read....

~6 Hours screen on-time, but 0 drain during sleep. Anyone else see this?

I have a 32gb WiFi only Tab S3 on Oreo. I am running stock rooted.
I've searched, but most threads here are about standby drain, which I don't have (battery drops literally 0% over 12 hours of sleep with airplane mode on). My problem is that the tablet seems to use a lot of power when on, even when doing random innocuous things like wifi-off drawing on Autodesk Sketchbook. Using GSAM, I can see the slope of usage is a lot higher than I've ever seen on a mobile device (I'll post a screenshot when I have the tablet in hand). It will level off when sleeping, but as soon as I pick it up again, the battery starts draining like crazy. I get maybe 6 hours, usually less, before it hits 2-3%.
Any thoughts?
Dude I was getting 5-6 hours use. I used Package Disabler Pro and froze EVERY single Samsung telemetry gathering app on the tablet, which is pretty much every Samsung app on there, as well as the useless MS apps and other things I'm not going to use. I'm running a battery drain test now, and I'm at 7 hours with 20 percent remaining. Pretty confident I'll get over 8 hours now. Try that.
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Also I'm pretty sure the wifi drain bug is still present even in the latest updates. Go to settings, tap Ur wifi connection, then advanced, then view more, and change keep wifi on during sleep to only when plugged in.
djleez82 said:
Dude I was getting 5-6 hours use. I used Package Disabler Pro and froze EVERY single Samsung telemetry gathering app on the tablet, which is pretty much every Samsung app on there, as well as the useless MS apps and other things I'm not going to use. I'm running a battery drain test now, and I'm at 7 hours with 20 percent remaining. Pretty confident I'll get over 8 hours now. Try that.
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Also I'm pretty sure the wifi drain bug is still present even in the latest updates. Go to settings, tap Ur wifi connection, then advanced, then view more, and change keep wifi on during sleep to only when plugged in.
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I'll give that a shot. Do you think you can list which apps you specifically disabled? Thanks!
once you disable the apps, do you need to keep the Package Disabler Pro installed? I read about too many issues with it where users are forced to pay multiple times for the same app...
Yeah, I've noticed this as well; Great sleep battery (1% per 24hrs), but disappointing SOT (7hrs; and that's with the custom debloated ROM from the Dev section).
I guess the next step is to disable All of the Samsung apps (debloated ROM leaves some of the more useful ones intact)

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