OMG! Kim K posted another selfie with tons of cleavage! Rate this thread to express how quickly apps launch on the LG G6. A higher rating indicates that even the most intensive apps launch quickly and without hesitation, even if they are no longer in RAM.
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Everything I've launched opens blazingly fast, and I have over 400 apps installed already. (copied a lot of my other stuff from my other phone over to it. OH, and I did it with LG Backup / LG Mobile Switch which worked much quicker than expected. Even the installations of the apps was almost instant each... well except really big apps/games, but those still took no time compared to my older phones.
Unfortunately I had to Rate one star. The basic feature of adding a 2nd google account to google apps, freezes the phone and crashes. Without Root, on a verizon locked bootloader I will be unable to fix the problem. Looks like I need to return, and consider the Pixel or purchase a MXPE.
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Everything I've launched opens blazingly fast, and I have over 400 apps installed already. (copied a lot of my other stuff from my other phone over to it. OH, and I did it with LG Backup / LG Mobile Switch which worked much quicker than expected. Even the installations of the apps was almost instant each... well except really big apps/games, but those still took no time compared to my older phones.
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You used Lg Backup and Switch to copy apps because you already had an Lg phone or does it work with other brands?
I copied from my LG-G2 to my LG-G5 via the WiFi option. I'm not sure if it'll work with other phones, but I'd think it was LG specific.
Yeah probably.
I don't know of anything else than Titanium Backup on rooted phones to get every apps exactly like they were from a phone to another.
There is a 1-2 second lag after tapping an app icon and time to get launched
LG Bridge wouldn't work on Win 7 64x
chinchillables said:
Everything I've launched opens blazingly fast, and I have over 400 apps installed already. (copied a lot of my other stuff from my other phone over to it. OH, and I did it with LG Backup / LG Mobile Switch which worked much quicker than expected. Even the installations of the apps was almost instant each... well except really big apps/games, but those still took no time compared to my older phones.
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Was going to use this LG software to backup my Sprint LG G6 phone on my computer. Software installed on computer properly. Couldn't get it to work as software wouldn't recognize USB connection. Samsung support said software only works with Win 10. Nothing on their website says anything about this restriction. Just FYI...
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There is a 1-2 second lag after tapping an app icon and time to get launched
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Apparently it's much better with the Oreo update. Older iPhones do not have this delay (although the content takes longer to load). No reason for it other than software.
I still can't get the LG Bridge software to work on my computer either, which is win7 so I believe the Win10 only thing. I think that was a stupid move by them, but I use other ways to backup so not too concerned.
Android 8.0 is an amazing update. I already loved my phone for what it is but with this update, I gained over 3GB of space back on my internal storage (i guess it removed clutter and uses a smaller framework) and all of the new options seem to allow much more control than before.
I was going to jump to the LG-G7, but being that I already bought 2 of the 10,000 maH extended batteries for this one that serve me well, I don't think I'm going to change anytime soon. I have a backup phone (bought 2 LG-G6) so I am just going to use the LG Backup thing and copy everything to my other phone. if anything happens I can just start that one and have an almost exact duplicate, minus any updates i've done and whatever was on the SD card which i'm sure is just booty shaking videos, dot pixel porn, photos, music, and random stuff I probably shouldnt be wasting space on anyway.
chinchillables said:
I still can't get the LG Bridge software to work on my computer either, which is win7 so I believe the Win10 only thing. I think that was a stupid move by them, but I use other ways to backup so not too concerned.
Android 8.0 is an amazing update. I already loved my phone for what it is but with this update, I gained over 3GB of space back on my internal storage (i guess it removed clutter and uses a smaller framework) and all of the new options seem to allow much more control than before.
I was going to jump to the LG-G7, but being that I already bought 2 of the 10,000 maH extended batteries for this one that serve me well, I don't think I'm going to change anytime soon. I have a backup phone (bought 2 LG-G6) so I am just going to use the LG Backup thing and copy everything to my other phone. if anything happens I can just start that one and have an almost exact duplicate, minus any updates i've done and whatever was on the SD card which i'm sure is just booty shaking videos, dot pixel porn, photos, music, and random stuff I probably shouldnt be wasting space on anyway.
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Is this relevant to app launch speed?
Just did a factory reset, a long time after installing the Oreo update which gave me a few other issues...
Apps load up without a single hesitation now! It's fantastic.
I finally bit the bullet and did this too, and there is an improvement in the opening apps lag. Let's hope it holds up over time.
MDW 100 said:
Just did a factory reset, a long time after installing the Oreo update which gave me a few other issues...
Apps load up without a single hesitation now! It's fantastic.
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I just picked one of these up yesterday, the LG Tribute, the Sprint version which is model LS660P (same hardware with the Virgin Mobile version). It's a Snapdragon 400 SoC quad core powered smartphone - it's basically a mix of features between a 1st gen Moto G LTE (the SoC) and the Moto E (removable battery and microSD slot) - it's a CDMA/LTE device only so it's more akin to the Sprint/Boost/Cricket versions of the Moto G I suppose - it does have a SIM card slot but since there's no GSM radio I suppose that's a dead end. It has Sprint LTE support for LTE bands 25, 26, and 41 - it's Spark-enabled as well.
So far in using it I've been extremely pleased with the performance overall considering it's $39.99 right now at many retailers like Fry's and Best Buy (retail is $79.99).
The biggest downside is the 800x480 display resolution but honestly I could care less these days. I just owned an LG G2 and loved it but I had to sell it to cover some bills, and when I saw the Tribute specs and that low price I figured it couldn't hurt to mess around with it a bit.
But in terms of getting it up and running, the first time I powered it up I was pleasantly surprised when I saw this on the Apps screen:
Just that, and nothing else - this thing has zero Sprint bloatware on it, absolutely nothing, and nothing from LG either. Yes it just has 4GB of internal storage leaving about 1.45GB for the user but it's got the microSD slot for storage. I've done all the requisite Google stock apps updates and installed all the apps I've purchased and the free ones I regularly use and I still have 435MB left so I'm good to go. Put my 32GB microSD card in it with 6GB of Opus-encoded audio files, a couple of movies and TV shows, and so far it's been fantastic.
Current battery is showing 37% left from a 100% charge, 12 hours and 3 minutes on, 5 hours and 14 minutes of screen on time so far (and still going because I'm watching Captain America: The Winter Soldier on it and there's 1 hour and 45 mins left in the movie), Wi-Fi has been on the entire time (it's in Airplane mode, however), screen brightness using MX Player is set at 12 (of 15), volume at 15. I use Google Hangouts with Google Voice to make "phone calls" using Wi-Fi so it's in Airplane mode most of the time when I'm at home.
I expect to hit the 7 hours of SOT and this is the first full charge on the device so, consider me a very happy camper.
I know requests have been put into place for Stumproot support so a root could be possible on this device, and I know that LG has posted the 4.4.2 ROM and kernel source code (I grabbed that last night). So here's my question:
Is there anyone out there that might be interested in attempting to develop any recovery for this (assuming we get root at some point), and then perhaps developing some custom ROM for it - seems like it should be a relatively easy thing considering a) we have the full ROM and kernel source even though it's just 4.4.2 at the moment (I would guess LG has no intentions of boosting this to 5.0 so that'll most likely never happen) and b) it's so close to the architecture of the CMDA/LTE version of the Moto G LTE that some kind of port might be possible towards Lollipop if and when that happens...?
Long sentence, sorry about that, I get wordy at times.
But I just figured I'd ask if there's any interest at all. Yes, it's weak on the resolution, yes, it's not a powerhouse device, yes, it's fairly cheap but it's functional and could be an awesome little smartphone with a little "help" thrown its way like a potential for a custom kernel as well to get the quad core and the governor a bit more under control.
I fully suspect this device is easily capable of 7 hours of SOT with such "upgrades" if anyone is interested. I lack the technical know-how and skills to get buried in ROM development much less kernels, so I figured I would toss the question out considering it shares so much common with the Moto G LTE variant + the Moto E's microSD slot potential.
Just curious... any responses are welcome and appreciated, thanks.
Update:
It's even better than I'd hoped...
Almost 8 hours of screen on time - that was a full movie (2 hours 15 minutes long and I let it play the entire thing, first frame to final), 4 TV shows (about 42-45 minutes long each), music playback for almost 1 hour, a few Wi-Fi phone calls using Google Hangouts/Voice, and some web surfing using the stock browser.
$40... absolutely amazing.
I'm just concerned about the amount of CPU time the Android OS shows there - it apparently used as much battery as the screen being on for 7 hours and 38 minutes did so there's something amiss hiding inside. Will be using Wakelock Detector to see if I can detect anything I can disable on the next go considering this was the first full 100% charge and battery test. Just for the record, the Keep Awake time listed on the Android OS battery usage page is 11 hours so it's not idle, there's something going on in there that's using the battery, now I just have to find out what it is. The CPU total time was 4 hours 17 minutes for Android OS.
I'm pretty satisfied, now I wonder what this thing could really be capable of in terms of battery life with a proper custom kernel and ROM. I wonder...
I've been waiting for something to pop up for this phone. I've had it for 2 weeks now. Its great. I agree the battery life is awesome on this thing.
I have the VM version and would be willing to test if someone came up with something.
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Coming from an iPhone so I'm totally new to the android platform but the storage in this thing is severely lacking. I got a micro sd for it, but barely can even get any apps to download due to lack of space. I'm assuming something like this would be helped by a root. It's driving me bananas and making me yearn for my Apple days
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I also just switched to a Tribute, with KitKat. Was incredibly pissed off to find that Android had crippled the external SD's role. I mean, WTF guys? So now I am on a mission. Every day I scour the interwebs looking for hope that someone has figured out a root exploit for this. I would even settle for being able to flash a custom ROM like Cyanogen. Just so long as I can get PodKicker to save 'casts to the friggin SD card. Is that too much to ask? Anyway, nothing i have attempted so far has worked at all.
Oh, and you got lucky with the no bloatware thing. I got mine through Boost Mobile, and they clotted this damned thing chock full of B.S. To the point that OUT OF THE BOX I couldn't install apps from Playstore without uninstalling previous updates to all the big Google apps. And without Root, I can't get rid of this BoostZone ****e.
I have my doubts as to whether or not this device will get any support here at all at this point (yes I know it's just been a day or so since I made this thread). I didn't even know about the LG L90 till earlier today and when I checked out the specs I realized that it's a better device overall than the Tribute, of course the price reflects the differences as well (larger higher resolution screen, just qHD 960x540 but still it's larger at 4.7" also), with NFC support (I actually make use of that myself), the removable battery/microSD slot, and it's got support here with its own subforum now with a lot of activity (well, a lot for it I suppose) and it even has an IR port for QuickRemote too which is pretty awesome: my Wife is deaf so anytime we go someplace like a Doctor's office or hospital with TVs on, if the captions aren't enabled I turn 'em on with the smartphone. Used to do that with my Galaxy S4 Active in the past, nice to see LG and some other companies are hopping on the "remote control" bandwagon now too.
There's root available and also a bootloader unlock apparently, source code is out and there's work being done so... I wish I had known that before yesterday basically. Fry's, where I got this Tribute, won't do a return on it because I opened the box (and obviously I've done more since I got it too) so that's a wash I suppose. It's still a damned fine little device for $40.
The L90 is "on sale" through T-Mobile's website for $100 with a coupon code right now, I would have grabbed that if I had known about it and the development in progress. Guess I'll have to keep my eyes out next time, might find one used on craigslist soon so we'll see what happens.
I'll keep the Tribute, of course, and keep hoping for a root at some point. I did ask in the Stumproot thread for someone to take a look at it and see what might be possible so, let's keep our fingers crossed.
As for the bloat, I had someone at HowardForums tell me if I activate the phone with Sprint (which I haven't done) that'll install all the Sprint bloatware so, fat chance of that happening I guess. I'll keep it as is and hope for the best.
Anyone working on this? I tried stump, and there are a ton of requests, but no one has said a word about it.
Thanks!
Still hoping but no progress has been reported. It's common knowledge these days that root on newer devices is going to continue to get more and more difficult with the potential that someday we're just not going to be able to do it on most anything. The low price of this one and lack of the high end specs makes most devs (at least in my opinion) not even give a crap about it so, if someone does and we benefit from it, that's awesome.
If nothing happens, it wasn't a complete waste, it's a fine little device with decent processing power and damned great battery life as noted so, $40 was nothing I guess.
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Still looking for root to the LG Tribute and nothing works. Has anyone heard anything new about it???
Just bumping this to revive interest.
sweetbsting said:
Coming from an iPhone so I'm totally new to the android platform but the storage in this thing is severely lacking. I got a micro sd for it, but barely can even get any apps to download due to lack of space. I'm assuming something like this would be helped by a root. It's driving me bananas and making me yearn for my Apple days
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You so realize you bought a low to mid range prepaid phone right?
I realize that but there has been quite a bit of interest in the model on the internets so unless you have something helpful to add, kindly ignore my post. Thanks.
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You so realize you bought a low to mid range prepaid phone right?
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You do understand that your comment takes away from the actual thread content, right?
Here is more information about the phone for anyone interested in development:
LG LS660 (LG Tribute) Virgin Mobile.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-LS660-Virgin-Mobile-tribute
Should I buy this phone and wait for a root?
Or are there other similar price and spec phones that are easier to root?
Do some phones never get rooted?
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There's root available and also a bootloader unlock apparently, source code is out and there's work being done so... I wish I had known that before yesterday basically. Fry's, where I got this Tribute, won't do a return on it because I opened the box (and obviously I've done more since I got it too) so that's a wash I suppose. It's still a damned fine little device for $40.
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Can you inform us where you found root & bootloader unlock? I've been on Android for years, but am relatively new to the root/mod side of things.
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Where did you download this? I am pretty curious.
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I don't own the LG Tribute any longer but the source code was at LG's open source repository for the LS660P (the Sprint variant, but it should be identical to the others I would guess):
https://www.lg.com/global/support/opensource/opensourceList?types=NAME&search=ls660p
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Can you inform us where you found root & bootloader unlock? I've been on Android for years, but am relatively new to the root/mod side of things.
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Honestly I can't even remember now, I saw some post at one of the other forums (AndroidPolice maybe) that said someone had discovered a working bootloader unlock, I could be wrong in that but honestly I can't recall the specifics at the momemt. As stated, I no longer own a Tribute (nothing at the moment, my sig always reflects what I own at any given time, for the record).
Good luck... it's really a fantastic smartphone for the $40 I paid for it (and Fry's still sells it for that price). I wish there was a GSM model 'cause I'd be all over it in a second flat; can't do much of anything with the CDMA model in terms of getting service here in my area. I won't deal with Sprint for service, and Boost/Virgin Mobile/etc don't have plans that come anywhere near what the $30/month T-Mobile plan does so...
For $35 a month, you get unlimited everything on Virgin Mobile...
For $20, you get 300 minutes and unlimited everything. I stuck with the $20 plan at unlimited everything as I was grandfathered in many, many years ago.
Possible root method?
Hello! I have been using android for a while and just got this phone (LG Tribute, Virgin Mobile). I was researching rooting this, and I found this: youtube.com/watch?v=ZBdrVa_bo5o
It seems to be advertising legit software, etc, but I wonder if this successfully roots the Tribute. On their website (androidphonetransfer_DOTCOM) ,they have a free trial for the software.
I'd like to try it, but I'm not sure if it would mess up my device or not (I'm new to rooting). anyone want to give this a try?
It does not work.
I am also interested. I was looking for a android phone with at least 4.5 inch screen to act as a dedicated gps navigator. LG Tribute fit the bill perfectly. Quad core processor is fast, would be nice to get rid of Sprint activation and clean the device up with a root.
I'm surprised there is not more interest in this phone. The sale price of $40 happens pretty regularly, which IMO is a great deal for this phone.
Hi there
Recently, I saw a Zenwatch 2 at a good price on ebay, and, well, I bought it! It was a weird impulse, but I have been curious about the whole smartwatch thing for a while. I've also never had an Asus mobile product, so it seemed to be a good way of killing two things with one missile.
So far, I have to say I'm very disappointed. The watch runs very slowly and is buggy imo. I have owned a phone with the same processor for years, and know it's capable of more (running 8.1.1.-based ROMs, at least). Despite being described as brand new when I bought it, its transitions are appalling, for example. Only about 400MB of the storage is taken up - yet I can't uninstall apps properly.
The two biggest issues, however, are that Remote Camera and the "forgot my phone" features in ZW Manager aren't working. I haven't found anything to suggest that they don't work on the newer versions of AW/Wear OS anywhere. Currently, it's on Android Wear 2 (7.1.1.) and won't upgrade past that. On that note, the watch will only download over BT - which is slow as hell - despite having successfully connected it to Wifi. So basically, it doesn't do much besides change watch faces and show notifications at this point. I've tried resetting it and reinstalling all its apps on the phone (a Oneplus 3), but nothing.
I'm incredibly disappointed at this stage, and kind of wish I'd gone with a Ticwatch (even with the greater expense) instead. OTOH, I do like the look of the watch (looks better than an Apple Watch imo) and want to give it another chance. Is there any way of fixing its issues? I'd install webwear, but have read that it kills the battery. Anything else? or is that my only option :/
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Hi there
Recently, I saw a Zenwatch 2 at a good price on ebay, and, well, I bought it! It was a weird impulse, but I have been curious about the whole smartwatch thing for a while. I've also never had an Asus mobile product, so it seemed to be a good way of killing two things with one missile.
So far, I have to say I'm very disappointed. The watch runs very slowly and is buggy imo. I have owned a phone with the same processor for years, and know it's capable of more (running 8.1.1.-based ROMs, at least). Despite being described as brand new when I bought it, its transitions are appalling, for example. Only about 400MB of the storage is taken up - yet I can't uninstall apps properly.
The two biggest issues, however, are that Remote Camera and the "forgot my phone" features in ZW Manager aren't working. I haven't found anything to suggest that they don't work on the newer versions of AW/Wear OS anywhere. Currently, it's on Android Wear 2 (7.1.1.) and won't upgrade past that. On that note, the watch will only download over BT - which is slow as hell - despite having successfully connected it to Wifi. So basically, it doesn't do much besides change watch faces and show notifications at this point. I've tried resetting it and reinstalling all its apps on the phone (a Oneplus 3), but nothing.
I'm incredibly disappointed at this stage, and kind of wish I'd gone with a Ticwatch (even with the greater expense) instead. OTOH, I do like the look of the watch (looks better than an Apple Watch imo) and want to give it another chance. Is there any way of fixing its issues? I'd install webwear, but have read that it kills the battery. Anything else? or is that my only option :/
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Hi Gigarant,
I'd reccomend this watch if you are looking for anything that gets the job done. If you are wanting more performance and stuff, get a different watch while you can, cause this watch has been discontinued in the long run. So no further updates will be made and your essentially stuck. Hope this helps!
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Hi Gigarant,
I'd reccomend this watch if you are looking for anything that gets the job done. If you are wanting more performance and stuff, get a different watch while you can, cause this watch has been discontinued in the long run. So no further updates will be made and your essentially stuck. Hope this helps!
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Yeah, I'm still not sure if I'm going to keep it. Thanks anyway though
Also, there's no fix for the Remote Camera issue then? <=[
Gigarant said:
Yeah, I'm still not sure if I'm going to keep it. Thanks anyway though
Also, there's no fix for the Remote Camera issue then? <=[
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Not that i'm aware of.
Root the watch and enable all 4 cores, the watch will be extremly fast after that (without using more battery)
I kept getting a message that there's no SIM card connected; I have to pull out the battery to get the phone working properly again.
Has anyone,experienced this being fixed it. Wasnt happending to me everyday besides, just one a,week. But its,happened everyday. Just,waiting,trm
adam79 said:
I kept getting a message that there's no SIM card connected; I have to pull out the battery to get the phone working properly again.
Has anyone,experienced this being fixed it. Wasnt happending to me everyday besides, just one a,week. But its,happened everyday. Just,waiting,trm
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mine has the same issue. I have already created a thread in here about that, and I received as a suggestion to reflash the kdz, but I'm still waiting for the oreo kdz to be released to try this out. you can give a shot doing that
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mine has the same issue. I have already created a thread in here about that, and I received as a suggestion to reflash the kdz, but I'm still waiting for the oreo kdz to be released to try this out. you can give a shot doing that
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What's the kdz? Also, I'm only at 7.0; I think Oreo is 8.0.
I wqs reading a thread with a similar issue and it was suggested to wipe the active cache partition. I haven't tried this yet, have you? Do you know if that'll wipe out all my storage? It's a whole process...shutdown, reboot holding Power + Volume Up and then following screen instructions.
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What's the kdz? Also, I'm only at 7.0; I think Oreo is 8.0.
I wqs reading a thread with a similar issue and it was suggested to wipe the active cache partition. I haven't tried this yet, have you? Do you know if that'll wipe out all my storage? It's a whole process...shutdown, reboot holding Power + Volume Up and then following screen instructions.
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I've already tried lots of things, and unfortunately none of them worked for be. Basically I tried wiping the internal storage, wiping the system and then reflashing the rom I was using, and I also tried reflashing the stock android. Nothing changed.
btw, kdz is basically the file that carries the system that is going to be installed in your phone. some versions of g5 already got the 8.0 oreo kdz, and some still on 7.0 nougat, reflashing the same 7.0 kdz could be a relevant try, but I'm not sure.
and also, wiping the cache won't change anything for you. wiping it will basically erase all temporary data created by the apps and system im your phone.
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I've already tried lots of things, and unfortunately none of them worked for be. Basically I tried wiping the internal storage, wiping the system and then reflashing the rom I was using, and I also tried reflashing the stock android. Nothing changed.
btw, kdz is basically the file that carries the system that is going to be installed in your phone. some versions of g5 already got the 8.0 oreo kdz, and some still on 7.0 nougat, reflashing the same 7.0 kdz could be a relevant try, but I'm not sure.
and also, wiping the cache won't change anything for you. wiping it will basically erase all temporary data created by the apps and system im your phone.
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What has your experience been like with this SIM issue? Did it start off like I described mine? At first just once in a while, then once a day, then twice a day, but fixable by just releasing the battery and snapping it right back in. That's where I'm at now; twice a day. Although it didn't happen today...ever since I opened the tray, readjusted the card and blew into it.
I'm just curious if it always starts slow and progressively gets worse. Did u already mention how bad u have it? Like the frequency of the "SIM Card Removed" error and what u need to do for a temp fix? And if it snuck up on ya or has been the same since it began.
It sounds like reinstalling the kdz will wipe out my storage, ya? Just the internal or SD card as well? I haven't tried the LG Backup App that came with the phone. Is there a particular backup App that I should check out, or is the LG on good enough? I have a ton of voice recorder mp3's and Quick Memo+ files that I manually backup regularly...just by connecting the phone to my laptop and dragging files onto it.
I've been thinking about buying a compact phone for a while; maybe now is the right time. The only decent one I've found besides the iPhone, which I'm not a fan, is the Sony Xperia XZ1. The screen is 4.6" and the phone itself is 5". They're way expensive tho, close to $400, which is practically double my budget. I may be mistaken, but I recall the XZ2 being cheaper than the XZ1. I haven't look into a planned release date for the XZ3, which one might assume would make the XZ1 cheaper.
I want something that is atleast on par w/ the G5's specs, as well as audio quality. Besides some light internet use (I don't use social media), I mainly use the phone for music, both headphones and speaker, and calls/texts. I don't care about the camera specs, fingerprint and facial scanners (I don't even lock my phone with the keypad lock). I just want a phone that doesn't lag, sounds good (quality, as well as, dB of loudspeaker; I think the XZ1 might have stereo speakers), enough internal storage for Apps and a SD slot.
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What has your experience been like with this SIM issue? Did it start off like I described mine? At first just once in a while, then once a day, then twice a day, but fixable by just releasing the battery and snapping it right back in. That's where I'm at now; twice a day. Although it didn't happen today...ever since I opened the tray, readjusted the card and blew into it.
I'm just curious if it always starts slow and progressively gets worse. Did u already mention how bad u have it? Like the frequency of the "SIM Card Removed" error and what u need to do for a temp fix? And if it snuck up on ya or has been the same since it began.
It sounds like reinstalling the kdz will wipe out my storage, ya? Just the internal or SD card as well? I haven't tried the LG Backup App that came with the phone. Is there a particular backup App that I should check out, or is the LG on good enough? I have a ton of voice recorder mp3's and Quick Memo+ files that I manually backup regularly...just by connecting the phone to my laptop and dragging files onto it.
I've been thinking about buying a compact phone for a while; maybe now is the right time. The only decent one I've found besides the iPhone, which I'm not a fan, is the Sony Xperia XZ1. The screen is 4.6" and the phone itself is 5". They're way expensive tho, close to $400, which is practically double my budget. I may be mistaken, but I recall the XZ2 being cheaper than the XZ1. I haven't look into a planned release date for the XZ3, which one might assume would make the XZ1 cheaper.
I want something that is atleast on par w/ the G5's specs, as well as audio quality. Besides some light internet use (I don't use social media), I mainly use the phone for music, both headphones and speaker, and calls/texts. I don't care about the camera specs, fingerprint and facial scanners (I don't even lock my phone with the keypad lock). I just want a phone that doesn't lag, sounds good (quality, as well as, dB of loudspeaker; I think the XZ1 might have stereo speakers), enough internal storage for Apps and a SD slot.
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yes, my issue is just like yours, but I always temp fixed it by restarting the phone, never having to take off the battery, and also yes, mine seems to get worse as time passes by, in the beginning a restart used to fix the issue for more than a day or even two. by now a restart just fix it for like minutes, no matter how many times I restart it, so this is turning into a huge thing for me.
flashing the kdz will probably wipe out your internal storage. I never used backup applications like LG Backup, I basically use Google photos for media backup and the built-in android backup that downloads all your apps with your data when I put your google account in a cleaned phone.
I totally understand your point by wanting to buy another phone, but I hugely wouldn't recommend you to buy a xperia. any fix for this phone can be very expensive, and they don't use to be easy to fix, G5 do though. by this pricing range I definitely recommend you to buy an oneplus phone or especially a xiaomi phone. with aroung $350 you can get a poco f1 from AliExpress. it's an awesome phone, and it has a huge community, you'll be able to find any kind of roms for it in xda and lots of tips by its happy users. it sports a snapdragon 845 and 6gb of ram, which is basically the hardware present on this year's flagships.
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yes, my issue is just like yours, but I always temp fixed it by restarting the phone, never having to take off the battery, and also yes, mine seems to get worse as time passes by, in the beginning a restart used to fix the issue for more than a day or even two. by now a restart just fix it for like minutes, no matter how many times I restart it, so this is turning into a huge thing for me.
flashing the kdz will probably wipe out your internal storage. I never used backup applications like LG Backup, I basically use Google photos for media backup and the built-in android backup that downloads all your apps with your data when I put your google account in a cleaned phone.
I totally understand your point by wanting to buy another phone, but I hugely wouldn't recommend you to buy a xperia. any fix for this phone can be very expensive, and they don't use to be easy to fix, G5 do though. by this pricing range I definitely recommend you to buy an oneplus phone or especially a xiaomi phone. with aroung $350 you can get a poco f1 from AliExpress. it's an awesome phone, and it has a huge community, you'll be able to find any kind of roms for it in xda and lots of tips by its happy users. it sports a snapdragon 845 and 6gb of ram, which is basically the hardware present on this year's flagships.
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Lame. So it seems like this problem will just continue to spiral out of control. What do you mean by an expensive fix for the Xperia? Is there something that commonly breaks on these, or are they known to be unreliable? Are any of the phone's u mentioned compact? I looked at One Plus phones when I was buying this G5 and remember them being gigantic. The G5 is a bit too big for my liking, but it blew away every other phone in it's price range.
Also, the $350-400 price range is the reason I don't already have the XZ1. Both me and my wallet would prefer something closer to the G5 price. 6 GB of RAM seems a bit unessacary for what I use my phones for...I forgot to mention that I don't play games either. The G5 has worked flawlessly for me, and it has 4 GB, right? I was thinking that I might be able to get away with 3 GB, tho I'm hesitant to go that route. My last couple phones before the G5 had 2 GB, and they were a bit laggy. I'm not sure how much is due to processing speed, RAM, or both.
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Lame. So it seems like this problem will just continue to spiral out of control. What do you mean by an expensive fix for the Xperia? Is there something that commonly breaks on these, or are they known to be unreliable? Are any of the phone's u mentioned compact? I looked at One Plus phones when I was buying this G5 and remember them being gigantic. The G5 is a bit too big for my liking, but it blew away every other phone in it's price range.
Also, the $350-400 price range is the reason I don't already have the XZ1. Both me and my wallet would prefer something closer to the G5 price. 6 GB of RAM seems a bit unessacary for what I use my phones for...I forgot to mention that I don't play games either. The G5 has worked flawlessly for me, and it has 4 GB, right? I was thinking that I might be able to get away with 3 GB, tho I'm hesitant to go that route. My last couple phones before the G5 had 2 GB, and they were a bit laggy. I'm not sure how much is due to processing speed, RAM, or both.
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yeah I know 6gb can be more than the necessary, but the extra gigabytes comes just as bonus for the phone's price. $300-$350!!! it's so cheap. and as this phone has that borderless design, it's not a big phone, probably almost the same size of G5 or something like. I think this phone is a total worth, especially when someone's just looking for a mid-range phone and gets a flagship. I would recommend you to search about it. but if you're really looking for a mid-range phone, you could take a look at Mi8 SE, which sports a snapdragon 710 and has a good pricing range.
Quick preamble note: This is a long read, but it's because it's been a long time since I touched a V30. So it's hard for me to put a TLDR synopsis at the bottom like I would normally do.
Hey all. It's been a while since Ive been in this part of the cell-iverse and I'm hoping you current V30 users can catch me up , please and thanks!
So a few days ago, one of my old posts in here got a little traction and it made me nostalgic, so I busted out the old v30 and started playing around with it. And if it were still 3 years ago, I could do no wrong to my trusty V30. Brick it? NBD! I can fix it... But a pandemic and few phones later I'm rusty and behind with all things Root / Magisk etc and even having a tough time remembering why I installed X module or disabled Y module and so on.
Maybe you're wondering, why bother messing with your old device? Well I had forgotten how many features Google had blocked between ol Android 8 and 13, and it turns out I really missed some of those and want to mess around with them. But, since updating or installing anything current could mean death for my 30, I'm hoping I can post my current Magisk config here and some kind folks will alert me as to what I should and shouldn't do / update / upgrade.
Specs:
Sprint (not currently connected to any network, and disabled anything I could think of to avoid getting hit by a TMo or Google Update)
LG-LS998
Android 8.0
security patch January 1 2019
build # OPR1.170623.026
SW: LS99827a
If anyone has a suggestion for what I need to disable to be sure it won't shadily get nerfed by Google, please let me know (auto updates/ota updates should be disabled still, but only by whatever standard we were using 3 years ago)
So first biggie is: Can I update Magisk? Currently I'm running 23.0 and its recommending an update to 25.2
Anyone know if this is going to be a compatibility issue?
As it stands, my Magisk Hide ft. seems to be working for everything i had it set up before. But I did install an old copy of an old APK and hide it, and Play is kinda having a fit about it and sending me notifications even after hiding it. (I dont think Im allowed to use the name of the app here, so I guess all I can say is Google has always tried to ban it and it's the same version as before but now they can see its installed somehow)
Ok, so let's talk modules....
Currently only looking at one possible update. That's for the dialer framework for the Google Phone. Now I know Google has opened up availability to their dialer to most phones now, maybe all of them. But I don't know if it's backwards compatible all the way to 8. I also don't know if updating the dialer framework will actually make it work. So any advice there is welcome.
Modules loaded & their status :
Abd & fastboot for Android NDK. Enabled.
Seems to be working fine. Or at least not causing an issue. I haven't run any log cats yet though. (Prob should , will do soon)
Anxious V30 v324 / Disabled.
I do remember I loved her mods that she was putting out. And then I remember a bunch of people giving her a hard time and she stopped releasing them which was a shame. But I don't remember why I disabled it so for now it's staying disabled unless someone has some info for me.
App systemizer (terminal emulator) / enabled
Seems to be running fine, but I completely forget how to actually use it and I'm going to have to read up on that again. But if anyone has any notes for me like that it doesn't work anymore please feel free to give me a heads up.
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Okay well I just realized there's like 19 more of these and this is already so long I don't know if anyone's going to care to read it LOL... So I'm just going to stop here for now and see if this post gets any kind of traction or if anyone has any kind of insight before I take the time of writing out the rest of these. Or at least wait to edit this till I'm on a computer and not just my phone. But a definitely need some info on things like APP OPS, which is no longer working for me, & things like Riru & SUI which I just read up on a little but am not sure will work on OS 8.
But for now any insights anybody has are welcome. Would love to hear from any of you that have been active in the last few years to now.
Personal Throwback Note: I love that all of my wifi scanners actually work now, I can review and diagnose my own network and the apps on my own phone and what their sending and where.. And that I can share files, cast, beam, and just about send anything anywhere I want, like the old days.
It's amazing how badly Google nerfed all of these things since back then.
Are you planning on connecting this to a carrier, or just using it on Wifi or something?
Generally speaking, I would recommend moving to the latest US998 ROM, as it seems to be the most cross-compatible and capable. UNLESS you're going to put it on a carrier, like VZW, in which case you would want the VZW ROM instead, to allow VOLTE/VOWIFI to work. I think other carriers may not be as tricky about these, which is why US998 should work, but I'm not sure myself (I'm a VZW MVNO user).
As for Magisk, the last I heard was that you can update it after you've installed it. In other words, you can't install newer versions via TWRP, but if you install 18.x (whichever it was - I forget, check the WTF thread) then you can let the Android manager update it. Last I think I did was to 22 or something. Basically, give it a try and see what happens - worst case, drop back into TWRP, use the Magisk remover, and then reinstall the old 18.x... it should recover with that.
I'm not sure of modules. I didn't use too many... I found Magisk modules to cause lots of problems, so I stopped using them. That may be why you disabled Anxious' module... because it's out of date now anyway.
I'm curious, what are you "missing" from the newer Android versions? I'm curious... because I don't mind it much. Things have moved. Some things have been "automated"... but that happens with every OS... change is part of the game.
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Are you planning on connecting this to a carrier, or just using it on Wifi or something?
Generally speaking, I would recommend moving to the latest US998 ROM, as it seems to be the most cross-compatible and capable. UNLESS you're going to put it on a carrier, like VZW, in which case you would want the VZW ROM instead, to allow VOLTE/VOWIFI to work. I think other carriers may not be as tricky about these, which is why US998 should work, but I'm not sure myself (I'm a VZW MVNO user).
As for Magisk, the last I heard was that you can update it after you've installed it. In other words, you can't install newer versions via TWRP, but if you install 18.x (whichever it was - I forget, check the WTF thread) then you can let the Android manager update it. Last I think I did was to 22 or something. Basically, give it a try and see what happens - worst case, drop back into TWRP, use the Magisk remover, and then reinstall the old 18.x... it should recover with that.
I'm not sure of modules. I didn't use too many... I found Magisk modules to cause lots of problems, so I stopped using them. That may be why you disabled Anxious' module... because it's out of date now anyway.
I'm curious, what are you "missing" from the newer Android versions? I'm curious... because I don't mind it much. Things have moved. Some things have been "automated"... but that happens with every OS... change is part of the game.
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Thank you for the info! This will definitely give me a starting point Tomorrow as I will be attempting to reload my most recent back up and get back up and running. (Yes, I have been smited by the update gods)
I was planning to keep it as a network testing device and not activate on a carrier. But that was a shortlived dream.
As for what's missing since the older versions, I can only give vague examples due to my own level of non-expertise in these areas... But the short answer is connections, ports and just overall access and compatibility within the devices itself and with other products. My current device (Samsung s22 ultra) can barely cast to my tv. While my V30 when it was working well, could basically cast or connect to any device in my home. Plus full dlna access. I could also use the old versions of my network apps to see every piece of data coming and going on my network. (This is possible today with apps that do so by acting as a VPN, but back in 2019 it was accessable by any app that could put out a "get" command). And there was more customizable settings for things like GPS (remember when we could choose between 3 different versions of location access?)
I should also say that I prob misspoke by blaming the os versions. After having my V30 nerfed out of root in under 2 hrs of usage, I'm now pretty sure the features I was referring to have been removed with security updates and not full os updates.
I tried, unsuccessfully, to block play services from installing a 550mb "security "update that they claimed was going to ensure my VOLTE would work after January 1st 2022. (Even though my VOLTE was already enabled and working fine as far back as 2019). I took a screenshot that I need to get off the device before re flash. I was trying to pull the update file so I could dig through it, but not install. Things went poorly lol.
But anyway, stay tuned, as I know that was a half ass answer and poor explanation, but when I have some time tomorrow, I'm going to reply here with a full write up on the differences, screenshots, and whatever else I can come up with.
I'm sure this will prob only be interesting to about 4 of us, so this is mostly going to be for my own curiosity and I don't expect to really achieve much, but please feel free to jump in with any questions or comments or point out anything I get wrong, as I'm happy to have company on my tinkering through tech time journey.
I have an S10+ now... and I'm quite happy with it. The key is that I gave up root to be on this... I had root on the V30. I know many complain about losing root, and I get it... I'd certainly prefer to have it. However, fact is, I really don't miss it. Yes, things are different without root, but you can do most things without it. But, that's just my take on it...
Without a carrier, I'd say do US998. I forgot to mention, I would recommend sticking to a non-Pie version of the OS as well. Pie was released on these phones, but it wasn't reliable from what I heard. I never went to it, and stuck with Oreo. The version numbers would be 20-ish for Oreo, and 30-ish for Pie. I did see that the US998 might be a bit better on Pie, but I knew VS996 (VZW ROM) was not great, which is why I stayed off it.
Yes, various things were removed with app updates and Google services updates. For example, call recording is being blocked these days, from what I've been reading. That's partly why I have not updated my S10+ either... it's on Android 11. I still use the same old app I used ages ago on my V30 and it works great, so why bother, you know?
I expect OTA OS updates are gone... and being off a carrier you won't get them anyway. So I don't think you need to worry about that specifically, but app updates will happen, of course... potentially. Just remember that with root you can uninstall the update and push an older version (from APKpure, for example) so I'm not sure I'd worry about that so much?
My V30 is using US998 as its base on Android Pie. US998 runs VoWifi and VoLTE well.
I'm still running Magisk 22.1 on mine. You only really need to update Magisk if you're using a newer Android version. I only run three modules: ACC, Systemless Hosts and Systemless TZData.
On the Google side, disable Play Store and uninstall all Google Play Services updates. Then run Aurora Store as its replacement. That way, Play Store will not auto-update Play Services.
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My V30 is using US998 as its base on Android Pie. US998 runs VoWifi and VoLTE well.
I'm still running Magisk 22.1 on mine. You only really need to update Magisk if you're using a newer Android version. I only run three modules: ACC, Systemless Hosts and Systemless TZData.
On the Google side, disable Play Store and uninstall all Google Play Services updates. Then run Aurora Store as its replacement. That way, Play Store will not auto-update Play Services.
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I'm curious what carrier do you use, where you are getting VoWIFI and VoLTE on stock US998 firmware? Originally T-mobile (and their MVNOs) allowed VoWIFI on US998, but with carrier system updates post-Sprint merger that reportedly went away. First with newer SIM cards and then even for those who stubbornly stayed on older SIM cards, by carrier side server changes.
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I'm curious what carrier do you use, where you are getting VoWIFI and VoLTE on stock US998 firmware?
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Oh, I should have mentioned I'm in Canada. Currently on Freedom Mobile. I made a post about this here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...unctional-and-available.3834267/post-87838705. Forgot that the mobile situation in the US is different
Greetings all.
Merry Christmas / Happy Hanukkah, and so on to everyone. Apologies on my delay, my timeline was interrupted by the obligatory holiday errands and what not. Hoping to have some time tomorrow to finally post some screen grabs and a write up over the next day or two.
Have a great weekend everyone!
I hate being the guy that doesn't follow through with his plans/posts, but I definitely overestimated my free time around this time of year (I work in the entertainment industry and in the tech industry simultaneously, so end of year is a bit double down crazy for me) So I still haven't had a chance to boot up my V30 again since that first day I used it and lost root (somehow OTA) in a matter of hours.
But that's said, all of this has created a new interest for me, and it will prob turn into a post elsewhere in the forum down the road, but for now I'll expand on it here since it's mildly related and stemmed from my curiosity about features being lost over time...
I've been noticing, almost daily, that Google is restricting more and more parts of the Android OS. Curious if the rest of you have noticed this as well.
On my current device, an update from this past week, restricted general access to the Android > Data folder.
Now I'm all for better security on our devices, but a change that big out of the blue has major effects on the average user.
My personal example: an app I use for songs and separate app that I use for video, both got firewalled with this change. They can both still operate and save files to their default locations inside the data folder. But now I cannot reach it through a file manager, or the app I was using to sort media on my device. That app now cannot see any media that isn't in the general download, music, video, or documents folders.
But the real problem is neither can my video or audio players.
The newest security does allow the "Data" folders to be accessed when done so through a computer. But what a hassle that is. Especially if you're like me and have always cheaped out and bought the smaller storage option devices. Back when expandle storage worked properly that was an easy fix, and after that and until now its always been fairly easy to push excess files to a cloud drive. But with this new change, making files invisible to file managers, you can literally fill your whole phone with media without realizing it's hidden somewhere and the only way to find what's taking up space now is to connect to a computer, or to open individual apps and check their own defined storage. App by app. Ughh.
I know this complaining is a bit off topic, but TBH I wouldn't even know where to start a post about general annoyances with over zealous security policies. I'm sure some of the devs here will be posting about it in their app threads soon if not already. And I have already seen a couple apps on my device update with half way work arounds to combat these changes. But, if this is the direction things are going, it's only a matter of time before any loophole is closed and that's no longer an option for devs. Personally, I'm planning to root my current device as soon as I have an hour or two, and will prob only be purchasing devices I know can be rooted going forward. I just refuse to wait around while the growing pains associated with this big of a change ripple through each app and developer, and everyone finally sorts out their stuff.
This is just another example of Google cutting off access to parts of the device I paid for and was using, ota, with no choice in the matter.
I know I prob sound like a lunatic, but it's lunacy to me how often and how many of these kind of changes have happened in just the last few months, especially after just starting this thread and airing out similar concerns.
And don't even get me started on the whole "tv play store app policies" vs "regular app store apps policies" and all the changes happening there (they crippled live channels + and I now have to purchase some apps twice to use it on my phone & tv!?!?)
(Btw if anyone, member or mod, has a suggestion on where I can start a thread about this just to discuss it, please let me know. As this issue is spreading and even if it hasn't been noticed by everyone yet, it's sure to affect everyone in some way soon. I.e. apps, particularly, paid apps, that no longer function and essentially won't be able to function. Google just made 1000s of apps worthless, with no recourse for the developers or the users who paid their hard earned money for them).
Interesting side note: I did find a hidden developer menu on my current samsung device that grants access to some of what was taken away from "wif related" apps. I had assumed the functionality was removed altogether but then was surprised to see the OS can still pull up a lot of what was banned from apps. For anyone interested, I'll be making a post on the Samsung forum later and will post an updated link to it here.
This seriously had me considering going back to the Pixel. Unbelievable amount of redundant software, games, just tons of it... ugh...
So is the ADB AppControl program still the best and current option in your opinions for removing the software?
...Or does Flashing a different firmware alleviate this issue?
In my opinion yes. And it's free. You can disable or enable with a click. Also connects wirelessly and can be used to deblaot Galaxy Watch
Installing ADB system wide in Windows has been the way I have always debloated my devices. The amount of Samsung, Google, and T-Mobile bloatware from mine. I use Package Name Viewer 2.0 from the PlayStore to make sure I have the correct package names when uninstalling them.
Adb app control or universal android debloater gui from github either will help you. I shrunk mine to around 22gb after I was done Uninstalling crap
Samsung is a mess. People are still using/buying the N10+; Sammy's last great flagship before they started going off the rails.
New ones can still be had loaded with Q, used ones for much less. If you need 1+tb of storage, good SOT in a powerful, snappy fast well balanced phone with an excellent form factor, this is still a great buy. $300-650 for the Snap variant.
You can use Package Disabler if it works on Android 13, it's the easiest option.
ADB edits is more difficult, but more comprehensive.
Do Not disable the many small Samsung system apps unless you know exactly what they do... and their dependencies if any!!!
Is there a list of what we can disable ?
Tried the adb commands for bixy (that camera thingy) but they're still active...
Google xda samsung optimization adb guide. I don't have the link but that's what it's called
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Google xda samsung optimization adb guide. I don't have the link but that's what it's called
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Awesome thanks !
Not gonna lie MIUI is an mess,
There alot of programs than are useless, and some system bloatwares ( for example Music app, )
And even some system apps have ads, but the ADB or Lucky patcher are an angel to this situation.
People still use Package Disabler..lol the guy charges you each time android updates
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People still use Package Disabler..lol the guy charges you each time android updates
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That's why I use ADB App Control... works great. Gave up on Package Disabler for just that reason.
That was my point. Dropped it couple years ago. Adb app control is the way to go
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People still use Package Disabler..lol the guy charges you each time android updates
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There is another Package Disabler that is cloud based and it's around $6.00 a year. You can buy a licenses for as many phones as you want. Been using it since the Note 10 with no issues at all, and you don't get charged for every android update. You can enable and disable bloat on the fly, no need for a PC or adb.
https://www.packagedisabler.com/
Developer got enough of my money..lol adb app control is free. To each their own
When I had the S22 Ultra, I just installed the U1 firmware. It's much cleaner than Verizon's version and even then you may have to use ADB to eliminate some bloatware.
What bloat are you guys talking about that cant be easily disabled/uninstalled ?
So Samsung finally put the same SoC in the entire S23 lineup. Hurrah, that only took 10 years! Now they should end their duplication of Google Apps. It's hard to imagine Samsung is benefiting in a significant manner by forcing these apps on everyone. Their devices have always had a ton of bloatware then add in the Carrier's crap and you're up to your eyeballs in bloat. We could likely free up 20% of our Internal Storage if Samsung's and the Carrier's sorted this out but it's likely too much of an ask. These aren't their phones we own them!
mobile services manager with AT&T
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What bloat are you guys talking about that cant be easily disabled/uninstalled ?
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If it makes you feel any better...simply putting a Verizon SIM in a Pixel still seems to result in some Verizon apps being downloaded.
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So Samsung finally put the same SoC in the entire S23 lineup. Hurrah, that only took 10 years! Now they should end their duplication of Google Apps. It's hard to imagine Samsung is benefiting in a significant manner by forcing these apps on everyone. Their devices have always had a ton of bloatware then add in the Carrier's crap and you're up to your eyeballs in bloat. We could likely free up 20% of our Internal Storage if Samsung's and the Carrier's sorted this out but it's likely too much of an ask. These aren't their phones we own them!
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I actually saved more like 50% space by debloating. Went from 59gb to 22gb system space