Hi there
Recently, I saw a Zenwatch 2 at a good price on ebay, and, well, I bought it! It was a weird impulse, but I have been curious about the whole smartwatch thing for a while. I've also never had an Asus mobile product, so it seemed to be a good way of killing two things with one missile.
So far, I have to say I'm very disappointed. The watch runs very slowly and is buggy imo. I have owned a phone with the same processor for years, and know it's capable of more (running 8.1.1.-based ROMs, at least). Despite being described as brand new when I bought it, its transitions are appalling, for example. Only about 400MB of the storage is taken up - yet I can't uninstall apps properly.
The two biggest issues, however, are that Remote Camera and the "forgot my phone" features in ZW Manager aren't working. I haven't found anything to suggest that they don't work on the newer versions of AW/Wear OS anywhere. Currently, it's on Android Wear 2 (7.1.1.) and won't upgrade past that. On that note, the watch will only download over BT - which is slow as hell - despite having successfully connected it to Wifi. So basically, it doesn't do much besides change watch faces and show notifications at this point. I've tried resetting it and reinstalling all its apps on the phone (a Oneplus 3), but nothing.
I'm incredibly disappointed at this stage, and kind of wish I'd gone with a Ticwatch (even with the greater expense) instead. OTOH, I do like the look of the watch (looks better than an Apple Watch imo) and want to give it another chance. Is there any way of fixing its issues? I'd install webwear, but have read that it kills the battery. Anything else? or is that my only option :/
Gigarant said:
Hi there
Recently, I saw a Zenwatch 2 at a good price on ebay, and, well, I bought it! It was a weird impulse, but I have been curious about the whole smartwatch thing for a while. I've also never had an Asus mobile product, so it seemed to be a good way of killing two things with one missile.
So far, I have to say I'm very disappointed. The watch runs very slowly and is buggy imo. I have owned a phone with the same processor for years, and know it's capable of more (running 8.1.1.-based ROMs, at least). Despite being described as brand new when I bought it, its transitions are appalling, for example. Only about 400MB of the storage is taken up - yet I can't uninstall apps properly.
The two biggest issues, however, are that Remote Camera and the "forgot my phone" features in ZW Manager aren't working. I haven't found anything to suggest that they don't work on the newer versions of AW/Wear OS anywhere. Currently, it's on Android Wear 2 (7.1.1.) and won't upgrade past that. On that note, the watch will only download over BT - which is slow as hell - despite having successfully connected it to Wifi. So basically, it doesn't do much besides change watch faces and show notifications at this point. I've tried resetting it and reinstalling all its apps on the phone (a Oneplus 3), but nothing.
I'm incredibly disappointed at this stage, and kind of wish I'd gone with a Ticwatch (even with the greater expense) instead. OTOH, I do like the look of the watch (looks better than an Apple Watch imo) and want to give it another chance. Is there any way of fixing its issues? I'd install webwear, but have read that it kills the battery. Anything else? or is that my only option :/
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Hi Gigarant,
I'd reccomend this watch if you are looking for anything that gets the job done. If you are wanting more performance and stuff, get a different watch while you can, cause this watch has been discontinued in the long run. So no further updates will be made and your essentially stuck. Hope this helps!
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Hi Gigarant,
I'd reccomend this watch if you are looking for anything that gets the job done. If you are wanting more performance and stuff, get a different watch while you can, cause this watch has been discontinued in the long run. So no further updates will be made and your essentially stuck. Hope this helps!
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Yeah, I'm still not sure if I'm going to keep it. Thanks anyway though
Also, there's no fix for the Remote Camera issue then? <=[
Gigarant said:
Yeah, I'm still not sure if I'm going to keep it. Thanks anyway though
Also, there's no fix for the Remote Camera issue then? <=[
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Not that i'm aware of.
Root the watch and enable all 4 cores, the watch will be extremly fast after that (without using more battery)
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I got mine yesterday and so far I don't know what this watch was made to do. I love the curved design and the large screen, but why add a SIM card and make it not a stand alone device? Personally I would rather have a thinner watch.
Controlling this device is a head ache to me, the scrolling is sometimes glitchy, the keyboard is oddly shaped and apps don't load information like it should. I owned the first Gear watch and thought it was a cool first step in the right direction of smart watches but some how I feel the first Gear worked better.
I am taking mine back and waiting for a thinner one to come out that functions smoother.
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I got mine yesterday and so far I don't know what this watch was made to do. I love the curved design and the large screen, but why add a SIM card and make it not a stand alone device? Personally I would rather have a thinner watch.
Controlling this device is a head ache to me, the scrolling is sometimes glitchy, the keyboard is oddly shaped and apps don't load information like it should. I owned the first Gear watch and thought it was a cool first step in the right direction of smart watches but some how I feel the first Gear worked better.
I am taking mine back and waiting for a thinner one to come out that functions smoother.
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Kind of, one biggy is not being able to add tasks or reminders. I don't know why but that buggs the crap out of me. I was able to with the first and 2nd gen gear watches. It was said this watch would have more support and more apps but from the looks of it the parts of the SDK for this watch seem to be broken thus slowing down app development.
Where are the thousand apps that was said to be avail at launch? I only see maybe 300 apps? (I have a note 4 that should show all of them you would think)
The watch is cool, don't get me wrong. I like it and I like the ability to make calls and receive calls and notifications when I am away from my phone... Im just dumbfounded that you can do something as simple as add a reminder or a task lol. S voice is hit or miss too. S voice on the Gear 2 was on point! (I kinda miss my gear 2)
I think it needs many sw updates and apps to reach its full potential.
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I think it needs many sw updates and apps to reach its full potential.
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Yeah the big question is if there is development. I already feel that gear 2 was abandoned and the gear s isn't far behind
I am thinking the smartwatch development cycle is so short, that a given watch is abandoned before it's peak is reached.
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I got mine yesterday and so far I don't know what this watch was made to do. I love the curved design and the large screen, but why add a SIM card and make it not a stand alone device? Personally I would rather have a thinner watch.
Controlling this device is a head ache to me, the scrolling is sometimes glitchy, the keyboard is oddly shaped and apps don't load information like it should. I owned the first Gear watch and thought it was a cool first step in the right direction of smart watches but some how I feel the first Gear worked better.
I am taking mine back and waiting for a thinner one to come out that functions smoother.
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It is still a standalone device so I'm not sure how you mean it isn't.
As for the glitches it could either be hardware issues or software, but thinness doesn't seem to be anything that could help.
We are early adopters and with that comes risk but I haven't had problems that would disappoint me to the point of wanting to return it.
It is an advancement for me. But hurry up and take it back if it irritates ya. It isn't for everyone.
if anything I think this watch has exceeded my expectations. I expected to hate the size, hate the batter, hate the useability. I have been please on every aspect.
Sure we need more apps. Some of us are working on that.
If you were expecting custom ROMs and someone porting android then this is not for you. That will likely never really be the case.
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if anything I think this watch has exceeded my expectations. I expected to hate the size, hate the batter, hate the useability. I have been please on every aspect.
Sure we need more apps. Some of us are working on that.
If you were expecting custom ROMs and someone porting android then this is not for you. That will likely never really be the case.
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Oh God no, the farther away from Android I can go the better. I only want root so I can dig around in it to learn.
Where are sound files kept, what is the file structure. Pull and push for light modding.
This watch reminds me of the N900. Sooooo much potential ...
My issues with this watch ates the swype key doesn't work all the time. It completely doesn't choose the word I was spelling. The dang call forwarding almost never works. I constantly get error messages that it can't connect to my phone remotely, my phone will be sitting in a good signal area. And a few times i had to restart the gear because all of a sudden it couldn't read the Sim card. These little issues make me regret buying it.
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I got mine yesterday and so far I don't know what this watch was made to do. I love the curved design and the large screen, but why add a SIM card and make it not a stand alone device? Personally I would rather have a thinner watch.
Controlling this device is a head ache to me, the scrolling is sometimes glitchy, the keyboard is oddly shaped and apps don't load information like it should. I owned the first Gear watch and thought it was a cool first step in the right direction of smart watches but some how I feel the first Gear worked better.
I am taking mine back and waiting for a thinner one to come out that functions smoother.
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I actually am loving it. Screen is great, connection or remote connection works well, and I love the scrolling on it, as it seems smooth and more fun. I had Gear 1 and 2, and find this far superior so far. Battery very good, even with Always on mode going I get a full day. Bluetooth works well with my headset at the gym, and emails seem to work better, as I can read full Exchange emails, as long as I clear out the notification after each one. News updates are really cool looking too.
I'm not terribly disappointed - I think the device itself is a feat in design however, I do have gripes with the software capabilities and not being able to respond to things like notifications directly from the device.
I think when more apps/updates are developed for the device, the experience/usability will drastically improve.
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My issues with this watch ates the swype key doesn't work all the time. It completely doesn't choose the word I was spelling. The dang call forwarding almost never works. I constantly get error messages that it can't connect to my phone remotely, my phone will be sitting in a good signal area. And a few times i had to restart the gear because all of a sudden it couldn't read the Sim card. These little issues make me regret buying it.
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Yours is defective. Exchange it.
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I'm not terribly disappointed - I think the device itself is a feat in design however, I do have gripes with the software capabilities and not being able to respond to things like notifications directly from the device.
I think when more apps/updates are developed for the device, the experience/usability will drastically improve.
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I just my Gear S yesterday and I'm impressed with the design just like I am with the Note 4. I bought the Notifications app to be able to reply. I'm still trying to figure that out. The Gear S looks huge but surprisingly feels like a normal watch to me. I can see it wouldn't feel right if you have tiny wrists though. I'm going to test the watch out for 14 days and see how much I'll use it.
I just feel Samsung didn't put much effort in this device as they have in their phones.
I personally hate that it has its own sim card and it seems that it without a sim slot and the chipset for 3g and wifi it could be a thinner device and still do what most people need it to. I just find it silly to have WiFi and 3g when you can't download it's own apps and not to mention the price difference.
I really thought it would have better apps first and 3rd party since Samsung isn't new to the watch market.
I do like the way the watch looks aside from it being thicker than I think it should be. I own a Note 4 and Note 3 and I think the Note 4 looks better but the Note 3 feels better in hand. Also I fail to understand why the Note 4s screen sticks out further than its bezels unlike the Note 3 where the bezels are out to protect the screen.
I am totally in love with mine. I love that it has its own SIM card slot, which is also why I bought it. For active people, it's a great device, because they can leave their cell phones at home (they are just too darn big these days).
I wish it had a few of the apps I use on my watch, and in general many more apps, and that Samsung would be straight-forward about which tablets work with it and which don't.
Also, I never saw the point of a wrist worn second display to your phone, but now that I have the Gear S, I can even see the appeal of the other (SIM-less) smart watches.
What I hate, though, is that Samsung sells it carrier-locked in the US. The sheer amount of work I have done so far in trying to get an unlocked version is insane, and I am still not done.
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My issues with this watch ates the swype key doesn't work all the time. It completely doesn't choose the word I was spelling. The dang call forwarding almost never works. I constantly get error messages that it can't connect to my phone remotely, my phone will be sitting in a good signal area. And a few times i had to restart the gear because all of a sudden it couldn't read the Sim card. These little issues make me regret buying it.
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May I ask, which carrier version of the watch do you have, and what kind of SIM is in it?
I'd like to know because I am currently using the T-mo version with a T-mo card and have not had any such problems, however, I also have an unopened ATT version that I am waiting to get unlocked (I'll return the tmo one).
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I am totally in love with mine. I love that it has its own SIM card slot, which is also why I bought it. For active people, it's a great device, because they can leave their cell phones at home (they are just too darn big these days).
I wish it had a few of the apps I use on my watch, and in general many more apps, and that Samsung would be straight-forward about which tablets work with it and which don't.
Also, I never saw the point of a wrist worn second display to your phone, but now that I have the Gear S, I can even see the appeal of the other (SIM-less) smart watches.
What I hate, though, is that Samsung sells it carrier-locked in the US. The sheer amount of work I have done so far in trying to get an unlocked version is insane, and I am still not done.
May I ask, which carrier version of the watch do you have, and what kind of SIM is in it?
I'd like to know because I am currently using the T-mo version with a T-mo card and have not had any such problems, however, I also have an unopened ATT version that I am waiting to get unlocked (I'll return the tmo one).
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My swipe is more accurate than I thought it would be but less than on the keyboards I use on my Note 4.
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My swipe is more accurate than I thought it would be but less than on the keyboards I use on my Note 4.
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I have to say, I can't figure out how to best use the keyboard. It detects the actual letter I want to type maybe 50% of the time at most.
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I just feel Samsung didn't put much effort in this device as they have in their phones.
I personally hate that it has its own sim card and it seems that it without a sim slot and the chipset for 3g and wifi it could be a thinner device and still do what most people need it to. I just find it silly to have WiFi and 3g when you can't download it's own apps and not to mention the price difference.
I really thought it would have better apps first and 3rd party since Samsung isn't new to the watch market.
I do like the way the watch looks aside from it being thicker than I think it should be. I own a Note 4 and Note 3 and I think the Note 4 looks better but the Note 3 feels better in hand. Also I fail to understand why the Note 4s screen sticks out further than its bezels unlike the Note 3 where the bezels are out to protect the screen.
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The Note 4 has a 2.5D glass screen with the chamfored aluminium contour to give it a more premium look. It has definitely made a difference and makes the phone feel silky smooth. I really don't think the plastic trim around the Note 3 protected it much and it certainly wasn't attractive. People complained like hell to Samsung regarding premium design, they listened and they delivered and people are still moaning.
As for the Gear S, well looks are subjective and I for one believe it looks stunning. The thickness is down to many factors like a decent speaker, bigger battery, sensors and the sim tray. Comparing it to the Galaxy Gear and the LG G watch r, it's about the same in thickness. The fact it curves round the wrist makes it seem less bulky.
It's not silly to have a 3G and Wifi feature, it's what makes the watch stand out from the others. It's not meant for downloading apps, it's for use when your phone is unavailable. I believe you are missing the whole concept. If you want a thin fashion watch then this isn't the right watch for you and I doubt Samsung ever intended it to be fashionable. It's a techies dream and as far as I am concerned is the best smartwatch out there right now. Granted it is expensive but early adoption is always so. The same reason there aren't thousands of apps for it just yet.
My answer to the original question of whether I am disappointed with the Gear S. . it's an easy and resounding NO!
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I just find it silly to have WiFi and 3g when you can't download it's own apps
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But what even just wifi gives you is at, say your office or home, you can leave your phone sitting on your desk or nightstand and roam freely about the place and still get calls and notifications on the Gear S.
Which to me, is awesome. And clearly better than the Gear Live (which can only helpfully remind you you've left your phone out of range when you walk into the next room)
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I have to say, I can't figure out how to best use the keyboard. It detects the actual letter I want to type maybe 50% of the time at most.
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There are three keyboards. Perhaps one of the others will work better for you?
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There are three keyboards. Perhaps one of the others will work better for you?
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I'll try out the others. Haven't even checked for other keyboards - duh!
Hello.
I have questions for current users of P9000. I do not have this phone. I can buy new P9000 for 180 USD. What you think? It is good idea? Chinese phones are always good "on paper" but always have bugged stock roms. We have any stable rom for P9000 for daily use without pain in ass? If you had to choose, would you buy it a second time?
Please help me decide.
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I bought it but I am not hapy with it.
Camera from the biginning was not well, and now stopped at all by itself. I did not drop or do something just in one day it stopped to launch.
Edge of display came of from the body. Battery drain is good if you don't use 3G.
If you want good phone search among Xiaomi , Meizu or ZTE.
For me "ZTE nubia z11 Mini" is good.
Definitely not. Gps, fast charge and camera are not good enough. Android pay does not work..buy one plus 3
Its is a good phone , interesting phone, but google pay not working, when it is working its is a great phone....
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I think its all about expectations. For me after rooting and flashing Eragon ROM I am happy with what I paid for. Don't expect Samsung/Apple standards for its camera its really bad compared to those. I dont use google/android pay so that doesn't bug me.
For that price I don't think you can get anything better.
I'm not sure what Google pay is but there is no problem buying apps with the phone.
GPS is not perfect but usable, same with the camera.
Battery time is very good at least for me. Twice I have left the phone fully charge at 10 pm and att 5 am I have 100% & 99%. This is with wifi and sync on. When I hade 99% there was a Titanium Backup of all user apps 200+ in the middle of the night.
Fast charge I don't know anything about, I charge the phone during night so that would not be an issue.
I have Eragon ROM on the phone.
The physical device itself is pretty solid but the stock software, as of present, is similar to that of an early beta build.
I'd advise you don't take the leap as I believe Elephone shouldn't be encouraged for releasing an incomplete phone.
I would not buy again. External SD doesn't work at all. Had to factory reset after update to get fingerprints back. Spontaneous reboots & alarms unreliable since last OTA update. I'd spend more money and get OnePlus 3 or used OnePlus 2.
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I would not buy again. External SD doesn't work at all. Had to factory reset after update to get fingerprints back. Spontaneous reboots & alarms unreliable since last OTA update. I'd spend more money and get OnePlus 3 or used OnePlus 2.
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External SD works just fine. Fingerprints dissapearing after an update of software is a known issue but a very minor inconvenience - all you have to do is add them back again. Which software version are you currently on?
20160810
I knew about the fingerprint issue but misread something from the release notes that caused me to think it had been fixed. It's not that they go missing, it's that they remain used but unrecoverable, so I went for a few weeks with only one fingerprint. No biggie.
My SD Card has never, ever worked. It's as though it's not even there. SIM works fine in that slot though.
In general I find the phone is not quite stable enough that I would recommend it to anyone else to buy, but it's not quite unstable enough that I sent it back, although I might have done if I'd had a decent spare.
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On paper it sounds good but too many bugs for me to use as a my daily driver so sent back to Amazon. GPS not great, fingerprint unlock not reliable. Unable to send or receive text without rebooting occasionally which was the biggie for me.
You get what you pay for, all phones have problems at one time or another no phone is perfect, GPS after lock works fine, finger print a bit slow but never had a problem as such, Camera isn't the problem it's the software use a different app and it's not that bad and I still have an Xperia Z1 so i can compare, Android Pay i live in the UK all bank card are contactless why fiddle about with a phone when it easier to just pull out your bank card the number of time i've stood behind some one trying to pay for something with their IPhone is mind numbing, you can make calls you can send texts you can receive calls and texts, if you have a higher budget then try something else if not this phone is as good or as bad as any.
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You get what you pay for, all phones have problems at one time or another no phone is perfect, GPS after lock works fine, finger print a bit slow but never had a problem as such, Camera isn't the problem it's the software use a different app and it's not that bad and I still have an Xperia Z1 so i can compare, Android Pay i live in the UK all bank card are contactless why fiddle about with a phone when it easier to just pull out your bank card the number of time i've stood behind some one trying to pay for something with their IPhone is mind numbing, you can make calls you can send texts you can receive calls and texts, if you have a higher budget then try something else if not this phone is as good or as bad as any.
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I suspected exactly that, Carl.
I am considering this phone, too. Most of my friends have Apple and Samsung high ends (that what's absolutely dominates the market here in Singapore), some of them are already on the 3. device while I still have my 2 yo crappy beaten-up Zenfone 5 ... it's as well not without flaws but surprisingly solid. I'm 100% off the high end stuff. The time we payed high end money and really got something feelably and visably better is long over. Yep, more money buys me better, but now it's not always, and not 3 - 4 times better.
OMG! Kim K posted another selfie with tons of cleavage! Rate this thread to express how quickly apps launch on the LG G6. A higher rating indicates that even the most intensive apps launch quickly and without hesitation, even if they are no longer in RAM.
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Everything I've launched opens blazingly fast, and I have over 400 apps installed already. (copied a lot of my other stuff from my other phone over to it. OH, and I did it with LG Backup / LG Mobile Switch which worked much quicker than expected. Even the installations of the apps was almost instant each... well except really big apps/games, but those still took no time compared to my older phones.
Unfortunately I had to Rate one star. The basic feature of adding a 2nd google account to google apps, freezes the phone and crashes. Without Root, on a verizon locked bootloader I will be unable to fix the problem. Looks like I need to return, and consider the Pixel or purchase a MXPE.
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Everything I've launched opens blazingly fast, and I have over 400 apps installed already. (copied a lot of my other stuff from my other phone over to it. OH, and I did it with LG Backup / LG Mobile Switch which worked much quicker than expected. Even the installations of the apps was almost instant each... well except really big apps/games, but those still took no time compared to my older phones.
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You used Lg Backup and Switch to copy apps because you already had an Lg phone or does it work with other brands?
I copied from my LG-G2 to my LG-G5 via the WiFi option. I'm not sure if it'll work with other phones, but I'd think it was LG specific.
Yeah probably.
I don't know of anything else than Titanium Backup on rooted phones to get every apps exactly like they were from a phone to another.
There is a 1-2 second lag after tapping an app icon and time to get launched
LG Bridge wouldn't work on Win 7 64x
chinchillables said:
Everything I've launched opens blazingly fast, and I have over 400 apps installed already. (copied a lot of my other stuff from my other phone over to it. OH, and I did it with LG Backup / LG Mobile Switch which worked much quicker than expected. Even the installations of the apps was almost instant each... well except really big apps/games, but those still took no time compared to my older phones.
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Was going to use this LG software to backup my Sprint LG G6 phone on my computer. Software installed on computer properly. Couldn't get it to work as software wouldn't recognize USB connection. Samsung support said software only works with Win 10. Nothing on their website says anything about this restriction. Just FYI...
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There is a 1-2 second lag after tapping an app icon and time to get launched
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Apparently it's much better with the Oreo update. Older iPhones do not have this delay (although the content takes longer to load). No reason for it other than software.
I still can't get the LG Bridge software to work on my computer either, which is win7 so I believe the Win10 only thing. I think that was a stupid move by them, but I use other ways to backup so not too concerned.
Android 8.0 is an amazing update. I already loved my phone for what it is but with this update, I gained over 3GB of space back on my internal storage (i guess it removed clutter and uses a smaller framework) and all of the new options seem to allow much more control than before.
I was going to jump to the LG-G7, but being that I already bought 2 of the 10,000 maH extended batteries for this one that serve me well, I don't think I'm going to change anytime soon. I have a backup phone (bought 2 LG-G6) so I am just going to use the LG Backup thing and copy everything to my other phone. if anything happens I can just start that one and have an almost exact duplicate, minus any updates i've done and whatever was on the SD card which i'm sure is just booty shaking videos, dot pixel porn, photos, music, and random stuff I probably shouldnt be wasting space on anyway.
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I still can't get the LG Bridge software to work on my computer either, which is win7 so I believe the Win10 only thing. I think that was a stupid move by them, but I use other ways to backup so not too concerned.
Android 8.0 is an amazing update. I already loved my phone for what it is but with this update, I gained over 3GB of space back on my internal storage (i guess it removed clutter and uses a smaller framework) and all of the new options seem to allow much more control than before.
I was going to jump to the LG-G7, but being that I already bought 2 of the 10,000 maH extended batteries for this one that serve me well, I don't think I'm going to change anytime soon. I have a backup phone (bought 2 LG-G6) so I am just going to use the LG Backup thing and copy everything to my other phone. if anything happens I can just start that one and have an almost exact duplicate, minus any updates i've done and whatever was on the SD card which i'm sure is just booty shaking videos, dot pixel porn, photos, music, and random stuff I probably shouldnt be wasting space on anyway.
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Is this relevant to app launch speed?
Just did a factory reset, a long time after installing the Oreo update which gave me a few other issues...
Apps load up without a single hesitation now! It's fantastic.
I finally bit the bullet and did this too, and there is an improvement in the opening apps lag. Let's hope it holds up over time.
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Just did a factory reset, a long time after installing the Oreo update which gave me a few other issues...
Apps load up without a single hesitation now! It's fantastic.
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I come from a Nvidia Shield K1, which i was able to get a full refund on due to screen burn-in, basically upgrading to the 10.8 LTE version for 150E. Amazing deal, right? Not quite.
I mostly play rythm games on Android, and, as it turns out, this tablet seems to have serious compatibility issues with them. Playing around with the timing settings only goes so far, as there seems to be a constant delay between my inputs and their audio feedback, which, as you can imagine, inevitably throws me off when things get hectic.
In addition to that, certain notes in certain songs will ALWAYS drop, no matter what. I activated the touch screen visual feedback in developers options, so i'm 100% sure the physical tap isn't being dropped. As in, the tablet is still registering the touch, but the app for some reason "thinks" i lifted my fingers. Multitouch test also shows no issues, up to 10 simultaneous, swiping taps are registered and maintained for 30+ seconds with no fail.
On to my second point, is the color fidelity supposed to be good on this tablet? It seems to me that the "Vivid" setting oversaturates colors, especially in the red spectrum, while the absence of it makes everything look washed out. Ultimately, i couldn't find a setting i was happy with, so i did some research, and found out that most tablets include a sRGB option, since apparently android apps can't handle color accuracy well. This tablet has such option, but guess what, everytime i try to turn it on, it turns itself back off as soon as i touch any other setting or change menu. I'm not sure whether, were it working, this option would fix the colors in a way that satisfies me, but at least i'd like to try.
Did anyone else experience these issues, and can they eventually be fixed somehow? I honestly love the general look and feel of this tablet, but i'll reluctantly send it back if not, as they're a dealbreaker for me.
Regarding the audio issue, i did a side by side comparison with the Shield K1, pressing the same button in the same app, at the same time.
The M5 would sistematically lag behind by what i'd estimate between 100 and 150 milliseconds. This seems to happen in every app i downloaded from the playstore, but video playback of any kind isn't affected.
I didn't really notice at first, but now, knowing it's there makes it very noticeable, and everything feels sluggish. Could someone be so kind as to test this on their device? Maybe i just got a defective unit, but i highly doubt it.
rkim34 said:
Regarding the audio issue, i did a side by side comparison with the Shield K1, pressing the same button in the same app, at the same time.
The M5 would sistematically lag behind by what i'd estimate between 100 and 150 milliseconds. This seems to happen in every app i downloaded from the playstore, but video playback of any kind isn't affected.
I didn't really notice at first, but now, knowing it's there makes it very noticeable, and everything feels sluggish. Could someone be so kind as to test this on their device? Maybe i just got a defective unit, but i highly doubt it.
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Which Android Version is the shield tablet running!?
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7.0, with January 2018 security patch. When i got it, it was running 6.0, never had this issue with it through several updates.
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7.0, with January 2018 security patch. When i got it, it was running 6.0, never had this issue with it through several updates.
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OK so I've none of the issues described, but am running the M5 Pro version in my end. Can't comment on the standard variant though.
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5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
OK so I've none of the issues described, but am running the M5 Pro version in my end. Can't comment on the standard variant though.
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Thank you for taking the time to test. I'll have another one sent within 2 days, let's hope it was just a weird fault, though i still doubt it. I will update when it gets here.
Edit: changed my mind and went for the refund instead, will most likely give the 8.4" a shot next.
Where did you order your tablet from?
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Where did you order your tablet from?
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Amazon, no way i'm buying iffy stuff like this anywhere else.
Just found these articles:
https://www.xda-developers.com/report-android-oreo-audio-latency/
https://www.androidcentral.com/nvid...ings-professional-audio-enhancements-and-more
At least now i'm sure i'm not crazy.
I hope someone can help, I have an a Wear OS App on my TicWatch E2 which only works on this device. I was wondering if it is possible to Sideload the App onto my TicWatch Pro. I've managed to ADB Pull the package from my TicWatch E2 onto my Windows 10 PC. The Package consisted of 4 APK files? I've tried to install on my TicWatch Pro using this ADB method but get the following error.
adb -s 192.168.1.20:5555 install c:\app\package.apk
I get the following error....
adb -e install base.apk
347 KB/s (7524235 bytes in 21.165s)
Failure [INSTALL_FAILED_VERIFICATION_FAILURE]
Let me guess, you are using Smartdrive, and would like to try using TicWatch pro with your SD.
I am trying to do that too, but no luck.
jiashiuan said:
Let me guess, you are using Smartdrive, and would like to try using TicWatch pro with your SD.
I am trying to do that too, but no luck.
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Yes, I’ve really given up, I don’t like the way the E2 controls the SD, I find the old Pushtracker far better. I would like to try on my Pro though as is a better watch all round, battery might be better as well. I know someone else who is trying as well with no success. I will let you know if they have success .
Cheers
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Yes, I’ve really given up, I don’t like the way the E2 controls the SD, I find the old Pushtracker far better. I would like to try on my Pro though as is a better watch all round, battery might be better as well. I know someone else who is trying as well with no success. I will let you know if they have success .
Cheers
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Great, thanks!
You are right, Pro is better than E2. For now I have to switch between to watches, depend on whether I am using
SD or not. A little bit stupid.
I am considering rooting my Ticwatch pro to make more trials, or just sell it....
BTW, do you have disconnection problem with PushTracker? I heard most users in my country have this problem. That's one of the reason to "upgrade" to a smartwatch. However, battery life becomes another issue.
jiashiuan said:
Great, thanks!
You are right, Pro is better than E2. For now I have to switch between to watches, depend on whether I am using
SD or not. A little bit stupid.
I am considering rooting my Ticwatch pro to make more trials, or just sell it....
BTW, do you have disconnection problem with PushTracker? I heard most users in my country have this problem. That's one of the reason to "upgrade" to a smartwatch. However, battery life becomes another issue.
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I’ll never use the E2 again unless I have a problem with the old PushTracker. It sometimes disconnects if I put my hand on my lap while driving, I guess the wheelchair blocks the BT signal?
If I drive for a long time going up a steep hill it will also cut out but it does that with the E2 as well. I think this is because the motor gets overloaded?
Have you updated the PushTracker ?
NickR said:
I’ll never use the E2 again unless I have a problem with the old PushTracker. It sometimes disconnects if I put my hand on my lap while driving, I guess the wheelchair blocks the BT signal?
If I drive for a long time going up a steep hill it will also cut out but it does that with the E2 as well. I think this is because the motor gets overloaded?
Have you updated the PushTracker ?
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I think the wheelchair and the body would do so. That's the most (maybe the only) improvement from PT to E2 I guess.
I have't seen overloading cut for now. I didn't do such a long time or outdoor driving at this moment.
I don't actually have a PushTracker. I bought SmartDrive last month, and it was already bundled with E2. I heard the problem from other users and the local dealer. Updating would be a nice idea. I will tell them to check.
Back to the smartwatch, I am trying to figure out how to install "split APKs" on watch. That's what you mentioned about 4 APKs in the earlier post.
jiashiuan said:
I think the wheelchair and the body would do so. That's the most (maybe the only) improvement from PT to E2 I guess.
I have't seen overloading cut for now. I didn't do such a long time or outdoor driving at this moment.
I don't actually have a PushTracker. I bought SmartDrive last month, and it was already bundled with E2. I heard the problem from other users and the local dealer. Updating would be a nice idea. I will tell them to check.
Back to the smartwatch, I am trying to figure out how to install "split APKs" on watch. That's what you mentioned about 4 APKs in the earlier post.
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You should ask your reseller for the original Pushtracker, also the other person who has been trying to hack the pro has got a little further. I haven't had any communication lately so I'm guessing he's given up.
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You should ask your reseller for the original Pushtracker, also the other person who has been trying to hack the pro has got a little further. I haven't had any communication lately so I'm guessing he's given up.
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Well, after several days trying, I have good news and bad news.
Good news: After rooting my TicWatch Pro, I have installed Samrtdrive App and connected to SD successfully. (sorry for the Chinese characters in my photos. you should know what it is. )
Bad news: The sensitivity is somehow too high to make any control. Even a small moving of my arm sent multiple tapping signals. Setting sensitivity to 10% makes no difference. Totally unusable.
This is as far as I could go. Unless Permobil and Mobovoi decide to support more watches, I will stay with E2, or get a old PushTracker as you said.