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I spend a lot of time tethering and just using my phone with the charger on... But if I spend too much time on it the phone still dies... I look at my battery usage and even though it IS charging the graph is still going down... Any word?
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Do you have it plugged into the wall or through the USB port?
The phone uses more mAh than the USB port is capable of providing if you are doing almost anything with the phone. The wall charger can have a hard time keeping up at times too.
Thaxx said:
I spend a lot of time tethering and just using my phone with the charger on... But if I spend too much time on it the phone still dies... I look at my battery usage and even though it IS charging the graph is still going down... Any word?
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I had the same problem with my EVO and the issue seems to still exist on the EVO 3D. Essentially, as posted above, when plugged into a computer, the phone charges at a lower mA than it does when plugged into the wall. Tethering uses both the WiFi radio and the 3G/4G radio which consume more power than the charging is able to supply, hence you'll see the phone slowly die even though it is charging.
I haven't really seen a good long term solution for this. I know, in an attempt to mitigate power consumption, the CPU can be down clocked and ran at a lower speed (SetCPU common App used for this purpose and free on XDA), but not sure how significant the impact it will have on the power drain.
It really would be interesting to see some detailed stats on how much power each radio in the EVO 3D consumes when used alone and when used together.
Hope that helps!
Thanks both of you but I do charge it though the ac adapter... Its gotten to the point where I got the screen all the way down and only using 3g so it barely charges... I can't even use netflix that way
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Thaxx said:
I spend a lot of time tethering and just using my phone with the charger on... But if I spend too much time on it the phone still dies... I look at my battery usage and even though it IS charging the graph is still going down... Any word?
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Are you wifi or USB tethering?
Because wifi tethering will chew through battery like nobody's business. When tethering through wifi, you are operating both the 3G/4G radio as well as the wifi radio, and doing so pretty extensively. To boot, the 3G/4G reception where you are may not be ideal, so the radio has to try harder to maintain a signal.
I've had two other smartphones that I tethered daily with, and in both cases the battery would slowly drain even while plugged into the stock charger for the phone, so that by the end of my workday the battery would be around 30-50% despite being plugged in the whole time.
You may want to get a 3rd-party charger with a higher mA rating (something in the 1500mA range), which may help.
saltorio said:
Are you wifi or USB tethering?
Because wifi tethering will chew through battery like nobody's business. When tethering through wifi, you are operating both the 3G/4G radio as well as the wifi radio, and doing so pretty extensively. To boot, the 3G/4G reception where you are may not be ideal, so the radio has to try harder to maintain a signal.
I've had two other smartphones that I tethered daily with, and in both cases the battery would slowly drain even while plugged into the stock charger for the phone, so that by the end of my workday the battery would be around 30-50% despite being plugged in the whole time.
You may want to get a 3rd-party charger with a higher mA rating (something in the 1500mA range), which may help.
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The charging unit on the phone will down grade to one amp even if you get a 1500 ma charger. I have a iPad charger rated st 2.1 amps and still charges as fast as the stock charger. This is built in protection. I may be wrong..
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The charging unit on the phone will down grade to one amp even if you get a 1500 ma charger. I have a iPad charger rated st 2.1 amps and still charges as fast as the stock charger. This is built in protection. I may be wrong..
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Ah, that's good to know.
ive never had a phone that keep keep up with charging while wifi tethering. 4g phones are especially bad because of the wimax radio
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ive never had a phone that keep keep up with charging while wifi tethering. 4g phones are especially bad because of the wimax radio
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It kinda makes sense...if WiFi tethering and mobile network on easily will exceed the normal thereshold of over 1 amp...hence battery gets hot and chrarger is working overtime in trying to power the phone with every thing going on and charging the battery with ma usage exceeding regulated power. I never thought of it like that.to bad I cannot diet this way...
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It kinda makes sense...if WiFi tethering and mobile network on easily will exceed the normal thereshold of over 1 amp...hence battery gets hot and chrarger is working overtime in trying to power the phone with every thing going on and charging the battery with ma usage exceeding regulated power. I never thought of it like that.to bad I cannot diet this way...
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Yeah, it's a similar issue to what can happen is using Google Navigation:
GPS + constant data + screen + graphic rendering = drain
I picked up a 1A car charger just to help combat that, though apparently Google is working on this very issue themselves:
http://www.google.vu/support/forum/...n&fid=4cc9c887d2e027120004a7f6a622a7be&hltp=2
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The charging unit on the phone will down grade to one amp even if you get a 1500 ma charger. I have a iPad charger rated st 2.1 amps and still charges as fast as the stock charger. This is built in protection. I may be wrong..
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I don't think that's right. I bought a rapid charger off Ebay and definitely notice the difference from the other Samsung charger I was using. Maybe the Samsung was only rated less than 1 amp, I don't know, but this charger will take my phone from under 50% to about 95% in the half hour drive to work.
I had the same problem as the OP. Running the GPS and Nav apps for the duration of the trip would leave my phone with less juice than when I started. After the new power cord it's a few percentage points higher at least.
I bought this one. For $3 bucks I figured I couldn't go wrong since it was a U.S. seller and had high feedback.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300518663951&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
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I don't think that's right. I bought a rapid charger off Ebay and definitely notice the difference from the other Samsung charger I was using. Maybe the Samsung was only rated less than 1 amp, I don't know, but this charger will take my phone from under 50% to about 95% in the half hour drive to work.
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Depends o the amperage of the charger being used. Many older chargers and stock chargers from all but the most recent phones are in the 500mA to 750mA range. The data on the charger should list it's output.
A lot of USB car chargers need to be modded to get the full power out of them. They basically tell the phone that it's connected to a computer and to only take ~500mA. When you mod them, the phone will pull ~1A.
There's a thread somewhere around that talks about it and shows how to do it, I think it's in the EVO 4G forum. Basically, you short out pin 2 and 3 so the phone knows it's not connected to a computer.
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A lot of USB car chargers need to be modded to get the full power out of them. They basically tell the phone that it's connected to a computer and to only take ~500mA. When you mod them, the phone will pull ~1A.
There's a thread somewhere around that talks about it and shows how to do it, I think it's in the EVO 4G forum. Basically, you short out pin 2 and 3 so the phone knows it's not connected to a computer.
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I thought that had to do with getting iPhone chargers to work on the every other device on Earth? Something about Apple speccing the ground differently or something?
I know that with the vast majority of older iPhone-intended chargers, they simply won't charge any other USB device I've tried (my old Xperia X10, my mom's Sony eReader, the EVO 3D, my friend's Samsung Galaxy). If they were simply being limited to 500mA, they'd still charge, just not particularly fast.
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OK, I think I found the issue (from Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus):
Non-standard devices
Some USB devices require more power than is permitted by the specifications for a single port. This is common for external hard and optical disc drives, and generally for devices with motors or lamps. Such devices can use an external power supply, which is allowed by the standard, or use a dual-input USB cable, one input of which is used for power and data transfer, the other solely for power, which makes the device a non-standard USB device. Some external hubs may, in practice, supply more power to USB devices than required by the specification but a standard-compliant device may not depend on this.
Some non-standard USB devices use the 5 V power supply without participating in a proper USB network which negotiates power draws with the host interface. These are usually referred to as USB decorations. The typical example is a USB-powered keyboard light; fans, mug coolers and heaters, battery chargers, miniature vacuum cleaners, and even miniature lava lamps are available. In most cases, these items contain no digital circuitry, and thus are not Standard compliant USB devices at all. This can theoretically cause problems with some computers, such as drawing too much current and damaging circuitry; prior to the Battery Charging Specification, the USB specification required that devices connect in a low-power mode (100 mA maximum) and communicate their current requirements to the host, which would then permit the device to switch into high-power mode.
In addition to limiting the total average power used by the device, the USB specification limits the inrush current (i.e., that used to charge decoupling and filter capacitors) when the device is first connected. Otherwise, connecting a device could cause problems with the host's internal power. Also, USB devices are required to automatically enter ultra low-power suspend mode when the USB host is suspended. Nevertheless, many USB host interfaces do not cut off the power supply to USB devices when they are suspended since resuming from the suspended state would become a lot more complicated if they did.
There are also devices at the host end that do not support negotiation, such as battery packs that can power USB-powered devices; some provide power, while others pass through the data lines to a host PC. USB power adapters convert utility power and/or another power source (e.g., a car's electrical system) to run attached devices. Some of these devices can supply up to 1 A of current. Without negotiation, the powered USB device is unable to inquire if it is allowed to draw 100 mA, 500 mA, or 1 A.
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There's also a good discussion on it here: http://superuser.com/questions/7765...connected-with-my-pc-to-charge-my-droid-phone
Wireless charging cant get much better than that
I've heard banter about wireless charging over time, never really looked into it,
Being part of the device such as DNA will they be selling what accessory to allow this? a Mat or ?
jamdmyers said:
I've heard banter about wireless charging over time, never really looked into it,
Being part of the device such as DNA will they be selling what accessory to allow this? a Mat or ?
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all you have to do is by the mat and put it on the mat lol
Case with wireless charging
Can we have a case on the device when we're wirelessly charging or do we have to repetitively take the case on and off when we charge? That would be a big let down if we had to. Thanks in advance.
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Can we have a case on the device when we're wirelessly charging or do we have to repetitively take the case on and off when we charge? That would be a big let down if we had to. Thanks in advance.
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I would suppose you could.
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Can we have a case on the device when we're wirelessly charging or do we have to repetitively take the case on and off when we charge? That would be a big let down if we had to. Thanks in advance.
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once i find a case that will fit i will give it a try, since the wireless pad is on my to purchase list tomorrow
Sadly, what I've been reading is that it depends on the case. Wireless charging seems to be out for the outer box users out there.
How about disruption?
If I for example, took my DNA, Keys, change etc out of my pocket and just plopped it all down on the charge pad, would the keys/change effect it's ability to charge?
Is it induction? Using Magnetic Fields etc...
Is it using the same wireless charging standard as the Nexus 4?
Correct me if I am wrong, but the DNA (at least) is using the Qi standard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qi_(inductive_power_standard)), same as Nokia's new line up. But IDK about the Nex4.
Edit: seems like they both use Qi after all. Standards are great when they actually are used, haha. But hopefully this means the price of chargers will decrease. My only hope is that there are magnets on the back of the DNA to hold it in place, like on the Nex4.
I'm quite sure that the "wireless charging" technology is not wireless power. It's just a way of charging where it passes through the back of the case and it's at such a low voltage that you don't have to worry about touching the mat yourself. It's called wireless because it doesn't use an actual wire/cord, but calling it "cordless charging" would have been more accurate.
So I'd assume that most cases would block it, unless they are thin enough for the electricity to easily pass through. Even if it does charge, the case might slow it down.
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I'm quite sure that the "wireless charging" technology is not wireless power. It's just a way of charging where it passes through the back of the case and it's at such a low voltage that you don't have to worry about touching the mat yourself. It's called wireless because it doesn't use an actual wire/cord, but calling it "cordless charging" would have been more accurate.
So I'd assume that most cases would block it, unless they are thin enough for the electricity to easily pass through. Even if it does charge, the case might slow it down.
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actually the surface of the charger is not electrified at all. Its etromagentic which means the charge or field origninates from within the device and therefor there is absolutely zero danger due to physical contact and the case only has an effect based on the distance it moves the inductive coils in the phone from the base station. It cannot slow the charge unless it somehow has a faraday effect blocking out the electromagnetic field. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_charging
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actually the surface of the charger is not electrified at all. Its etromagentic which means the charge or field origninates from within the device and therefor there is absolutely zero danger due to physical contact and the case only has an effect based on the distance it moves the inductive coils in the phone from the base station. It cannot slow the charge unless it somehow has a faraday effect blocking out the electromagnetic field. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_charging
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excuse spelling errors
It's like an induction hob for a kitchen cooker.
There will be a magnetic coil in the pad that, once the phone is placed onto it, will complete an electro-magnetic circuit and power the phone. iirc...
But I remember reading about how it's very different technology than "wireless power" and that you couldn't use this to power something like a PS3 because it would be dangerous and shock other things, where as something like MIT has done could power a room full of devices and you wouldnt have to worry about things getting a charge that weren't meant to. Could be wrong though, or might have been on older "wireless charging" units.
First there are many forms of wireless charging (ie. wireless transmission of electricity). In the context of the DNA (and other phones: Lumia's, Nexus 4, etc.), the method used is "Inductive Charging" (the Qi standard linked in my previous post). In this situation, the only damage that can be caused is via magnetic interference; for example, the consortium supporting Qi, posted some guidelines that hint at potential interference (AM radios, key fobs, etc.), but I don't think that this is a severe problem. Keep in mind that inductive charging has been around for years; it has just only recently become efficient enough to use (practically) in mobile devices.
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But I remember reading about how it's very different technology than "wireless power" and that you couldn't use this to power something like a PS3 because it would be dangerous and shock other things, where as something like MIT has done could power a room full of devices and you wouldnt have to worry about things getting a charge that weren't meant to. Could be wrong though, or might have been on older "wireless charging" units.
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The ps3 wouldnt pull a charge from it period. It must have an inductive charging coil inside of it to conver the AC electromagentic field to something useful otherwise the charging pad would have little effect on it other then subjecting it to an EM field. There is no actual physical connection established between the device and whatever its charging outside of the EM link thus "wireless" charging.
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The ps3 wouldnt pull a charge from it period. It must have an inductive charging coil inside of it to conver the AC electromagentic field to something useful otherwise the charging pad would have little effect on it other then subjecting it to an EM field. There is no actual physical connection established between the device and whatever its charging outside of the EM link thus "wireless" charging.
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Well, I meant something as powerful with an adapter to receive the power, not putting some coils next to it and hope for some magic to happen if you give them enough power. lol
lulz no harm no foul! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R617vPlqinI letsw just start tearing things apart when these phones ship and building these! itll be the calling card of the DNA community =D
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Well, I meant something as powerful with an adapter to receive the power, not putting some coils next to it and hope for some magic to happen if you give them enough power. lol
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Currently the Qi standard has provisions for both "low" and "medium" power devices. Low caps out at 5W (I believe), suitable for mobile phones, etc. But the Medium power spec does hold the potential for larger more energy consuming devices.
Keep in mind, however, that the transmission process is lossy, and you only get 60-90% efficiency (okay for small devices, harder to justify for a PS3 ).
I have a wireless "Inductive" type charging mat for my Wii controllers and it works with the rubber cases still on them
I ordered mine this morning!! YAY
The first thing I'm going to do is work on plans for doing a Qi Wireless charging case. I figured I would use a thick piece of wood (or 3D printed piece of plastic ) as the "case" with a cut out for the Qi parts salvaged from something found on eBay or Amazon (from a iPhone charge case etc) and connect it all via the magnetic charge port. What I was hoping to figure out is if anyone knows the positive or negative sites on the magnetic charge connector?? Or does it even matter?
I know this project will add some bulk to the already large device, but I really would like wireless charging as I have fallen in love with it!!
Thanks in advance!
David
One thing to factor in mind is the slow charging rates with wireless charging.
With the quick charge function on the S800, you can probably go from 0-100 in 2hours. Whereas with wireless charging it could take 8+ hours. Great if you just want to leave it on your desk at work I guess, but from personal experience with modding the note 2 to be wireless charging compatible, it was rarely a practical as I always used the cable > wireless.
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One thing to factor in mind is the slow charging rates with wireless charging.
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I pretty much use wireless charging exclusively with my Nexus 4 and I have never had a problem with it.
Thanks for the reply though!!
David
Brief history - I've had wireless charging with both my last Samsung devices via factory wireless charging covers. I also have it on my two Nexus 7 (2013). I've bought various wireless chargers over the years, as evidenced by just the few I have attached here, there are more throughout the house and at my office. I have also done extensive testing with them in the car as well, but those are all in a box because the technology is just not there yet, in my opinion.
The S6 Edge is an anomaly. Every other device I have works great with most of the chargers I will describe for long term (overnight for example) charging, some better than others, but the S6E has some serious charging issues that cannot be overlooked. I'll go into detail for each charger that I have experienced first hand:
OEM 2015 Samsung Wireless Charging Pad - I just got this in the mail two days ago, and I already hate it. I really have no complaints over the LED lights, I think they look nice, but some people absolutely hate them. They are bright in a dark room, no question. My issue with it is that the charger juices up the S6 and then stops. Yes, you read that right, stops completely. So if you charge it overnight, it will not be fully charged when you wake up unless you sleep for 3-4 hours at a time. I woke up the last two nights with it charged to 64% and 72%. This is unacceptable. Samsung clearly states on their website - "If using a Galaxy S 6 or Galaxy S 6 Edge, it will also alert you when your device is fully charged" which is total crap. The LEDs turn from blue to green, but what they mean to say is that it alerts you by then draining your battery after being fully charged. Use this ONLY if you aren't going to need it for overnight charging!
Tylt Vu Wireless Charger - Where do I begin? I own two of these, one for the house and the other in my office. I have loved the look and quality of these for a long time now, and I've gotten to be so furious with using them that I have pulled them both out of the wall outlets. You can read all the details of my issues I've encountered with them here, but the short of it is that I've had them replace both chargers and when that didn't work, I even returned my phone thinking it couldn't have been an issue with them, it must have been the phone! They even know how difficult it is to use the S6 with the Vu that they have created a device guide specifically to show how awkward it is to get it charging, and even still, my device constantly beeps and beeps when fully charged. Don't believe me? Got over 9 mins to waste watching me prove it? Once again, this is not a charger you can rely on for use overnight because of this, others say they work just fine with theirs, but there's more to it than some saying yea and some saying nay.
Itian Qi Three Coils Wireless Charging Pad A6 for Samsung Galaxy S6 S6 edge - designed specifically to work with the S6 and Edge? Sign me up! Just received it today, when fully charged, does the same things the Tylt Vu does above. And this time, I'm not going to send my phone back to prove it isn't the issue, I'll just send back another charger that doesn't work for the anomaly.
Nexus Wireless Charger - Small, high quality, magnetized to align coils..... didn't work with my S5 and is flaky to work with the Nexus 7 when inside a slim case, doesn't work at all with the S6 either. I liked this so much when I had my S4 and N7 outside a case, but now, it's just a $50 decoration for my current line of devices! Stay clear of this.
Nokia DT-910 Wireless Charging Stand (not pictured) - Aside from this not working for just about anything, I got it for free from AT&T when they were blowing them out at $10 shipped, and then they refunded my purchase and sent it anyways. I use it for my N7 displaying my front door's security camera feed on the Foscam or IP Cam apps, and it won't charge up the N7 with the screen on all day, so I have to turn it off at night. I should plug it in, but it probably saves me a few dollars a year by keeping it off at night, so whatever. Stay clear of this if you can even find one for sale right now.
Various wireless car docks - from CHOEtech to a DIY job I made, none of these ever seemed to be able to charge up my phones when using GPS, streaming Google Play Music, Bluetooth on, and screen on for hours on end. I made a post in this thread about it, and have a full review of it on Amazon here for the more in-depth review of wireless car chargers, and this should apply to most of them out now. Anyone who disagrees isn't keeping their screen on or using it as heavily as I do in the car, bottom line.
Qi Wireless Charging Pad Mat Charger (1A Current US Plug) - If the link doesn't work, search using that title. So after spending hundreds of dollars on wireless chargers, surely you can't think that this cheap-o Qi charger that costs only $10 shipped will work on these expensive, high tech phones and tablets, right? WRONG. This is literally the only charger that works for me. No kidding. My S6 is in front of me at the computer at home and it works great. Fully charged and not beeping to alert me. Not losing battery because it's fully charged and stops charging. Will charge up the phone relatively well when low on battery, as long as you aren't killing it with keeping the screen on. Is this a catch-all solution? Probably not, but it works and nothing else does. How is that possible, with all the tech spent on developing the Nexus charger, the Tylt Vu, hell, the OEM Samsung one?
Am I the only one having such bad luck with these? Is this a Samsung issue that requires an update to fix? Is my house cursed? Look, I'm sure this doesn't sound right to many of you, and there will be some disagreements, but these are my actual first hand experiences. I'm not doing this for the fun of it or to piss members or even companies making these chargers off, I'm doing this because this is what I've had to deal with and after too many mornings waking up earlier than my alarm was set for because my phone is beeping and waking me up or having to leave for the day without a full charge on my phone, it is very frustrating!
I'm certainly open to the idea that Samsung has screwed up something hardware or software related with this iteration of Galaxy S phones, and it isn't something that I can or should blame these chargers on. I get that. I'm also giving up my experiences here so anyone thinking about one of these can see there MAY be an issue with them since at least one person (myself) has had an issue. If you have one of these and it works for you, great! It doesn't work for me, and I'm out hundreds of dollars and searching for another way to get this working on this device. Hopefully this is an easy fix for Samsung or can be fixed via root (I know my S5 had lots of Wanam Xposed-related features for disabling sounds and backlights when placed on a charger, and maybe you're not having the issues because it's already fixed for those who don't have root available yet.
EDIT - I've moved on from this phone and removed my subscription to this post, you're all on your own with this thing now.... I couldn't stand all the issues I was having with wireless charging amongst AT&T locking this thing down and preventing me from getting 5.1.1, so I had to kick this to the curb, good luck everyone!
Thanks for your review. Very, very useful.
As from my point of view - I'm happy with this one
will look into.. but the last week I had always 100%
I have the Verizon Wireless branded wireless charger stand http://www.verizonwireless.com/accessories/verizon-qi-wireless-charging-stand/
And it's not caused me any problems. Keeps a charge going even after hitting 100% though I'm not sure about any beeps since my phone is on vibrate nearly all day. I'll have to try it without being on vibrate to see if it beeps more consistently once charged.
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I have 2 different style chargers that are NOT in your list. Both of these work great for me. I did have an issue charging with the Speck Candyshell Grip case but I have since replaced my case with a OBLIQ case off Amazon and it works flawlessly with these two chargers.
First is the RAVPower RP-WCN15 Qi Wireless Charging Pad Stand
http://www.amazon.com/RAVPower-RP-W...430077011&sr=8-3&keywords=ravpower+qi+charger
Second is the CHOE Stadium Qi Wireless Charger
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JA7HNZO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The best advice I can give when it comes to wireless charging....
1. Get a 3 coil charger
2. Make sure your case will work with them
cbdudek said:
I have 2 different style chargers that are NOT in your list. Both of these work great for me. I did have an issue charging with the Speck Candyshell Grip case but I have since replaced my case with a OBLIQ case off Amazon and it works flawlessly with these two chargers.
First is the RAVPower RP-WCN15 Qi Wireless Charging Pad Stand
http://www.amazon.com/RAVPower-RP-W...430077011&sr=8-3&keywords=ravpower+qi+charger
Second is the CHOE Stadium Qi Wireless Charger
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JA7HNZO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The best advice I can give when it comes to wireless charging....
1. Get a 3 coil charger
2. Make sure your case will work with them
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I'll have to look into the first one, as I loved my Tylt Vu's because they were stands - the one working charger for me is flat and while I can rig something to prop it up, it's still not as nice as a charger made that way from the factory. That being said, for something that expensive (not compared to the Tylt, I know, but compared to the Itian A6 I found on Amazon as well), I wish it didn't look like something slapped together. It doesn't have that $40 value to me, and I'm concerned already that things work okay for some and not for others, so I'm going to hold off on taking a chance on it for now. May revisit, but as it is, I'm probably going to stick with a cable dock until some type of update comes through from Samsung / ATT.
As for the second charger, that's nice looking, but for nearly 3 times the price of the cheap-o one I found, meaning you can get nearly three of the cheap ones for that price, I'd pass on the CHOEtech. Maybe that's just me being negative about my feelings towards them when they tried to get their wireless car dock working for me, but that's where I'm at I guess. Great customer service and after refunding me, they sent me a FREE car dock to test out, but it was still having the same issues.
Lastly, great advice at the bottom of your post, I didn't mention that, but you're right, regardless of what chargers you go with.
I have the Itian charger at work, no issues at all there.
Also using a one of the older Samsung charger at night (think it was one I got with the note 3), again all good and fully charged in the morning. I've got a Spigen clear case on the phone too
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I'll have to look into the first one, as I loved my Tylt Vu's because they were stands - the one working charger for me is flat and while I can rig something to prop it up, it's still not as nice as a charger made that way from the factory. That being said, for something that expensive (not compared to the Tylt, I know, but compared to the Itian A6 I found on Amazon as well), I wish it didn't look like something slapped together. It doesn't have that $40 value to me, and I'm concerned already that things work okay for some and not for others, so I'm going to hold off on taking a chance on it for now. May revisit, but as it is, I'm probably going to stick with a cable dock until some type of update comes through from Samsung / ATT.
As for the second charger, that's nice looking, but for nearly 3 times the price of the cheap-o one I found, meaning you can get nearly three of the cheap ones for that price, I'd pass on the CHOEtech. Maybe that's just me being negative about my feelings towards them when they tried to get their wireless car dock working for me, but that's where I'm at I guess. Great customer service and after refunding me, they sent me a FREE car dock to test out, but it was still having the same issues.
Lastly, great advice at the bottom of your post, I didn't mention that, but you're right, regardless of what chargers you go with.
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Ok, you will have to excuse me if I overstep my bounds here, but I am going to sum up what you said.
Both chargers are verified working, but they "don't have a value to you" because they are too expensive?
You have already dropped a lot of cash on other brands, so what makes these two chargers better than the rest? I have no idea. Maybe I was lucky. Either way, before I bought wireless chargers, I went into the accessories area of the S6 and S6 edge and read what people had and what worked and what didn't. The Tylt Vu was an epic failure. There were some people who bought those cheap $10 Duracell mats and were upset. The RAVPower and CHOE chargers were verified working and working well. I now exclusively wirelessly charge my phone without worry or issue.
It just seemed like you were dismissing my findings as being "too expensive". IMHO, you have to pay for quality. Which is why docks like the Tylt Vu should have worked right out of the box for the S6 and S6 edge, but in both accessories forum areas, neither one is working.
I really don't think its the S6 Edge alone. I think it may be the S6 device line as a whole.
I think the case makes a HUGE difference too.
Frankly, if you're waking up to a device that drains 30-40% overnight while you're sleeping (really more like in 5 or 6 hours after being charged), you've got bigger issues than whatever your wireless charging problems are.
My device is fully charged when I wakeup and pick it up off of my Samsung Wireless Charging Pad, and it certainly isn't losing 5-8% of its charge per hour of doing nothing.
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Ok, you will have to excuse me if I overstep my bounds here, but I am going to sum up what you said.
Both chargers are verified working, but they "don't have a value to you" because they are too expensive?
I think the case makes a HUGE difference too.
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I guess I've just been burned too many times with paying so much for stuff that just isn't working for me but is for others.... Probably doesn't make any sense like I suggested it wouldn't, but I just bought a gorgeous looking wired charger that barring something stupid from the reputable manufacturer, I know will work without question. There were enough people saying the Tylt worked just fine for them but 4 of them didn't for me, that I've got a bad enough taste in my mouth from wireless chargers that I'm not interested in spending any more money at this time. I am an Amazon Prime member, I could easily get it in 2 days test it out, and report back, but I've just lost hope for any of them right now unfortunately!
I'm glad they worked for you though, and that you posted on this thread because others will certainly benefit from your experience just as they will benefit from being cautious or avoiding entirely some of the ones I've mentioned in the OP.
I'm not disagreeing with you on casing making a difference in wireless charging, I just know I was experiencing the same issues before I even considered buying a case and I'm not about to take it off every time I want to charge it. The whole point of wireless charging is to be as lazy as possible when placing your phone down to charge, and having to take off the case means that charger fails for me if you use a case like I am for the very first time ever for any Samsung phone.
I see where you are coming from. I hope you didn't take offense to my reply. It just was a little shocking that I got a "oh, those chargers work? Sorry, not a value to me" when you have been dropping the same if not more money on other chargers.
I am still new to wireless charging, so I don't know if these chargers will work with other devices. I also don't know if these issues are isolated to the S6 line, S6 Edge, or not isolated at all. Either way, all I hope is that people who have these phones do find chargers that work with their devices.
My wireless charger does not stop charging after the device is fully charged.
Using this one:-
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B00PUA06TA
Sent from my s6 edge
I'm waiting for someone to test these:
http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/categories/departments/wireless_charging/30611/
Really liking the look of that RIGGAD lamp.
I have a tylt charger as well. And it usually works flawlessly, charged to 100% in the morning. Though ive been having issues connecting a second time ( when you pick it up to do something with the phone, and put it back you get a red Light instead of the green one) now what worked for me, although it's not the most practical solution, was putting the phone upside down in the charger.
Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G925F met Tapatalk
crumble6 said:
I'm waiting for someone to test these:
http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/categories/departments/wireless_charging/30611/
Really liking the look of that RIGGAD lamp.
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Leave it to the Swedes to come up with something so awesome and consumer friendly! That is great, thank you for sharing that, for those in the US, the link to all of them is right here:
http://www.ikea.com/us/en/search/?query=+Wireless+charger
Check out the prices on the battery covers at the bottom - not that we need them for the S6, but still, great prices for other / older devices!
cbdudek said:
I have 2 different style chargers that are NOT in your list. Both of these work great for me. I did have an issue charging with the Speck Candyshell Grip case but I have since replaced my case with a OBLIQ case off Amazon and it works flawlessly with these two chargers.
First is the RAVPower RP-WCN15 Qi Wireless Charging Pad Stand
http://www.amazon.com/RAVPower-RP-W...430077011&sr=8-3&keywords=ravpower+qi+charger
Second is the CHOE Stadium Qi Wireless Charger
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JA7HNZO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The best advice I can give when it comes to wireless charging....
1. Get a 3 coil charger
2. Make sure your case will work with them
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I also have the RAV charger stand and have had no problems... my s6e stays in its ringke case on the stand and charges without fuss. I'm not sure what happens when it hits 100%... I use the app Gentle Alarm, which keeps everything I want quiet and black while allowing the phone to ring and alarm to sound. I am sure my phone is at 100% in the morning.
I've been using the airdock 2.0 in my vehicle... and get do get positive charging gain even with BT connected for media and phone and running Waze for navigation and traffic (again, with case on)
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I also have the RAV charger stand and have had no problems... my s6e stays in its ringke case on the stand and charges without fuss. I'm not sure what happens when it hits 100%... I use the app Gentle Alarm, which keeps everything I want quiet and black while allowing the phone to ring and alarm to sound. I am sure my phone is at 100% in the morning.
I've been using the airdock 2.0 in my vehicle... and get do get positive charging gain even with BT connected for media and phone and running Waze for navigation and traffic (again, with case on)
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I had the Speck Candyshell case and that had some issues with wireless charging. I think it was because it was the rubber on the case or the thickness of the case. Either way, the OBLIQ case works much better for me.
When it comes to wireless charging and issues with it, I know I would be interested to find out what kind of cases everyone has, if any. I am pretty new to wireless charging, and before I blame the phone, I would like to find out what others have when it comes to cases.
On a side note, I have a friend who has an Incipio Ghost 120 and that is just a single coil charger, and yet my phone has no issues charging on that either. Either I have gotten lucky with chargers, or some people have cases that are interfering with the wireless charging, or some people have bad phones.
So I bought the Samsung wireless charging pad with my S6 edge last week and was noticing the same issue of waking up with my battery at 70%-75%. I hadn't considered that it was charging fully and then just draining back down. I assumed that it was just not charging all the way, but this assumption was only based on only 3 nights of use.
I returned my first edge (black), and got a new one (gold platinum). After about a week of use with my current phone, I haven't noticed the same issue. I'm waking up with a full charge every morning.
As others have reported defects in new devices, is it possible that some of these wireless charging issues could be defects as well?
ParaScoob said:
As others have reported defects in new devices, is it possible that some of these wireless charging issues could be defects as well?
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At this point, I would say this is the most likely explanation.
Thanks for the heads up on the official charger, sounds like a ball ache.
I'm using an IKEA wireless charging lamp and I can confirm it works a treat, even when the phone is in a case.
...now available at Fasttech
https://www.fasttech.com/products/1/10061022/9691452-authentic-huawei-cp60-qi-inductive-wireless
No power supply included.
Pantaloonie said:
...now available at Fasttech
https://www.fasttech.com/products/1/10061022/9691452-authentic-huawei-cp60-qi-inductive-wireless
No power supply included.
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Thanks - but we can use any Qi charging pad right?
kaibosh99 said:
Thanks - but we can use any Qi charging pad right?
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Yes you can. But only Huawei has the 15w option. Others are limited to 5w-10w. At least I believe that's the case.
I just received my wireless charger yesterday.
I know some alternatives exist, but at least in Canada, 15W Qi charging options are as expensive as this charger was, so I chose the Huawei proprietary tech for the same price.
I am loving this wireless charger. I finally have quick wireless charging, and the pad feels premium.
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Yes you can. But only Huawei has the 15w option. Others are limited to 5w-10w. At least I believe that's the case.
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I'm quite sure Xiaomi has 20w
Well, I ordered one of these from FastTech, and it arrived about a week ago. Amazingly quick shipping considering I bought about a dozen little el cheapo goodies and paid about $2 for the postage. The charging pad is genuine Huawei, in general anything on FastTech that outright claims to be genuine is. It came in a very nondescript tough plastic bag that held a white sealed box. Inside there is a meaningless tiny little pamphlet in Chinese, but why would you need any information anyway? As was mentioned, it doesn't come with a power supply - again, why would it? I crammed my official charging cable into it, works fine. The charging pad is quite a bit smaller than I expected, I guess it doesn't need to be anything more than it is - I would say about 2.75" in diameter and about half an inch thick. The surface is very 'grippy', I wish the TPU case that came with the phone was this sticky. Speaking of which, I throw my phone on the pad with the TPU case and it works fine. In fact, just in the name of science I just tried seeing how thick of material the charger would still work through, and it easily triggers through even 1/8" of paper - so this will work with *any* case that isn't made out of metal.
At first I thought that the placement was *extremely* finicky, because sometimes it seemed like it wouldn't trigger. I've learned since that it just takes a second or two sometimes no matter where you put it, so you just learn to trust it. The phone does have to be somewhat 'centered', but it isn't crazy specific. So, you plop your phone down and the nice green bubbly animation pops up with a pleasant sound, and the icon in the center shows that it is charging via lethal levels of radiation rather than safely through a wire. There is a very small LED under the lip of the pad, that lights up when it is charging. Obviously the LED on the phone will either be green or strobing for a notification while this is going on too. As far as charging speed goes, I haven't done any rigorous testing of any kind but it is most definitely not 'slow'. You put it down, and when you pick it up it has charged up enough that I have never thought "hmm, this is slow". Yeah, I know - real scientific. Oh, and the phone gets 'barely warm' when charging, and I do mean 'barely warm'. This is good, I've heard some combos out there result in a cooking hot phone - and that isn't good for anything.
Otherwise, not much to say. It is very, very nice not to have to plug my phone in - wearing out a charging port is an actual worry, and this way the bottom speaker isn't muffled to nothingness (a strange move, but when you take aggressive hyper efficient space and waterproofing into account it makes sense). One thing to mention, you obviously can't use your phone while it is charging. I mean you *could*, but you won't. If I had to gripe about anything, it is that the pad is a little thicker than I would like. It doesn't hurt anything, but if you have it teetering up on a high spot or something you will need to be a little wary about how you place your phone.
On a side note, not that anyone really 'needs' it in the real world, but don't forget we do have wireless charging in reverse. From reading up on it, the placement between two phones is *extremely* picky, and I would say that if both phones had a case it probably wouldn't work. The other thing they mentioned is that once you initiate a reverse charge, any movement between the two phones of any kind will break the connection - and it is a pain to get going again. Did you know we also have the option to charge something else via the Type C port? It is listed in the settings, I haven't seen that mentioned anywhere. That would be crazy useful - especially since we have SO much battery to spare. Think about it, you could charge wireless earbuds, bluetooth speakers, whatever. No idea at what rate it would charge (theoretically it could be fairly substantial) and of course the kind of cable you would need to do anything with this doesn't really exist... I am going to patch together a Type C to one of those 'multi-pronged charging ends', just to try this out. I have a very neat cable with one end that with one fixed end can fit both Micro-USB and Lightning ports - no one believes me, and honestly I didn't believe it myself at first either. When you eyeball it you think "now why aren't there more of these out there?"
Anyway, for the $20 this charging pad is a no brainer. It is legit, authentic, and works like a charm. One last thing - I swear I can feel the thing radiating from a foot away. I know that is 'impossible' given the inverse square law, but I'm not kidding.
@kaibosh99
Excellent and very helpful review, thank you very much !!!
@kaibosh99
Did the LED and cooling fan switch off automatically when the M20P was fully charged?
So does it show on the screen that it's fast changing?
Sent from my Mate 20 Pro
29 € with power supply included
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B07JD35YS6/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1