Viper4Android car audio - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a RoadNavi S160 (Android) installed as a head unit in my car, stock speakers + undearseat subwoofer ( Connected to the rear speakers ). I have flashed the unit with rooted Kotix ROM which has a preinstalled V4A.
I've managed to get it to work with PowerAmp, but thats where it ends...
1. Which settings shoulld i be working with? (headset? speaker? bluetooth? USB? - or all of them? )
I have tried to play around with them, but i am totally lost! - only the speaker tab makes a difference to the sound.
2. The IRS files don't seem to make any difference to the sound ( I can change them, and driver status shows as processing )
3. With the equlizer only(no IRS) the speakers sound either too flat or too distorted
I am not after a highest quality audio, but would like to hear a nice punchy bass and decent vocals ( without cracking speakers! )
Thank you all

Can you use PowerAMP (the app itself?)
If yes! Well Poweramp uses something called "DirectMusicControl" so it will only use PowerAmp no matter what you set in Viper4Android!
Go to settings --> Audio --> Enhanced Settings (in my case the last point on Audio) --> First Entry is the "DirectVolumeControl"
Klick the box so it's unticked and play some music with poweramp while you open up Viper and set everything to your liking!
WARNING: Maybe you should reset ViperSettings to default if possible not that you blow away speakers

Thanks for the reply!
I have already managed to get those two to work together and since posting my initial question I've figured out the way to use the IRS's ( turns out I copied a folder full of files into the kernel, instead of extracting just the files into the existing kernel folder ).
But I must say that I am struggling to get it working as well as it probably can.
The settings within the "headset" tab seem to have no effect whatsoever, and only the settings from the "speaker" tab seem to make a difference.
Having said that, no matter what IRS I use, it just sounds wrong ( too quite, too loud, not enough bass or too much bass )

Thinking about it - is there a way to default v4a to set parameters within the headset tab instead of the speaker?
This would enable me to have a greater controll ( and possibly sort my issues ) over bass, clarity etc.?
Thanks

Patrick050289 said:
Thinking about it - is there a way to default v4a to set parameters within the headset tab instead of the speaker?
This would enable me to have a greater controll ( and possibly sort my issues ) over bass, clarity etc.?
Thanks
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go to headseat tab, in setting (3dot at upper left at v4a 2.4.0) choose lock effect mode headset

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[Q] Sound Quality in TG01

Hi, so my TG01 has really poor sound quality. I mean I have W960i and there music has nice and deep bass and it's nice and loud, and here the bass is like on poor quality video on youtube.. also when I make it lauder it does a lot of clicking on the background.. I tried few player and MortPlayer gives me best sound quality, but summing it, it's still poor If a comapre it to Sonny E.
Maybe it's sound drivers or somethin ? IM TALKING ABOUT SOUND IN HEADPHONES. I'M USING WM 6.5 FFBOYS 1.0.
pawel5510 said:
Hi, so my TG01 has really poor sound quality. I mean I have W960i and there music has nice and deep bass and it's nice and loud, and here the bass is like on poor quality video on youtube.. also when I make it lauder it does a lot of clicking on the background.. I tried few player and MortPlayer gives me best sound quality, but summing it, it's still poor If a comapre it to Sonny E.
Maybe it's sound drivers or somethin ? IM TALKING ABOUT SOUND IN HEADPHONES. I'M USING WM 6.5 FFBOYS 1.0.
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Yes, sound quality has never been strong side of TG01 but maybe You should consider to utilize WOWHD. It works like some kind of DSP so You should
see any difference.
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ok got it, but now gettin a message sain @There is no WOW HD driver loaded. The control panel will now [email protected] how should I fix this ? I duno how to edit the registry btw thx
1. go to your "windows", search the file with "wavedev" as part of name.
2. copy the whole name.
3. go to [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\WaveDev] and set the "OldDriver" to STEP 2.
4. reboot.
Firstly I can not find this file, secondly I duno whats hkay_local... and how to access it please explain it to me
pawel5510 said:
ok got it, but now gettin a message sain @There is no WOW HD driver loaded. The control panel will now [email protected] how should I fix this ? I duno how to edit the registry btw thx
1. go to your "windows", search the file with "wavedev" as part of name.
2. copy the whole name.
3. go to [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\WaveDev] and set the "OldDriver" to STEP 2.
4. reboot.
Firstly I can not find this file, secondly I duno whats hkay_local... and how to access it please explain it to me
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The file is probably hidden; you need a File Explorer which is able to 'see' hidden / system files (the native windows explorer in Windows Mobile only shows you ones which do not have the -h (hide) attribute set).
The reference to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE (often written in short as HKLM) is a 'Hive Key' in the Registry. This works just like the Registry on a desktop PC and contains all the variable settings for the system and all the applications you have installed. To access this and edit its contents you need a Registry Editor.
One option which does all in one package is the Resco File Explorer (Payware); alternatively you can search on XDA and there are various alternative offerings available with differing capabilities.
Hope that helps clarify....
Back to the original issue behind this, though and I would observe that actually the sound quality out of the TG01 is in fact very good - but you will only hear that with a high bitrate audio source and a decent set of earphones on the end to do it justice, or alternatively by output to a high quality external amplifier via quality screened cable and connectors. The stock earbuds (or similar) will never give you good quality sound. Addition of SRS or equivalent software will only modify the perceived sound, but can never overcome the limitations of such hardware. I've included the spec for my audio setup in my sig below - I'm using .wav encoded audio so it is 1:1 CD quality with no compression whatsoever - as soon as you start using compression (MP3 or similar) the audio quality will be degraded.
well ur answer does not help me. I do use resco explorer.
And how can u say quality is good ? ;d there is a lot of cliping etc quality is so poor that my casete player would give me better output. well I do have good quality headphones pionier make that reatail over pounds. my MP3 files sound awesome on my PC or Sony E. and TG01 just can not handle this level. That's why I'm loooking for anyway to fix this issue and I need this WOWHD as it might help. anyway I got it working but it gives my no audio output 0.- help.
Tried an active set of headphones or a portal headphone amp?
I did not tried amp, but I will no spend any more money for this, jsut want to manage WOWHD to work. I has it working and after editing registry entries my phone does not swich music to headphones, and when answering the phone it can only use speaker, and the micro does not work ;/ too bad help.
Well I just happened to have my headphone cable on me today at work. I have a set of noise cancelling headphones here at work and I don't seem to have a problem with 'clicking' except perhaps between songs when it actually changes track. Whilst not being loud, it sounds ok to me.
Are you using the original headphones that came with the TG01? They suck. Change them for something else and see if that improves things.
Also.. I wonder if the 'radio' version has anything to do with it?
As I said before HEADPHONES HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. I USE PIONIEER HDJ1000 AND I WOULD SAY THEY ARE REALLY GOOD. I tried others as well and the best sound i get on pionieer. but it's still not good at all. Bass sounds like a cheap imitation of bass. and as someone said I could cry WOWHD as it worked for few people giving a bit better sound, so jsut want to try it, but can not get it to work, got this frustrating error @ no WOW HD driver loaded .. And i have no idea if radio version has anything to do with it, I hope you guys tell me that Thanks
You could always try another ROM that already includes WOWHD in it? (Look for the MiROM 8 + UPX compression ROM )
I know that's a bit extreme to do, but you have already flashed your phone with FFBoys.. so it shouldn't be that much of an issue. (use PIM Backup to record your contacts first!)
It could just be that the SE phone has better dedicated hardware as many of them seem to be made with music in mind.
Ok downloading new ROM. I have tried many ROM with no change on audio quality I hate Sense but just wanna try this WOWHD software and see if it's worth using, then I'll go back to old FFboy's ROM, and yes I also think that Sonny E. has better hardware as it's Walkman phone, and that's always been known as good thing.
pawel5510 said:
Ok downloading new ROM. I have tried many ROM with no change on audio quality I hate Sense but just wanna try this WOWHD software and see if it's worth using, then I'll go back to old FFboy's ROM, and yes I also think that Sonny E. has better hardware as it's Walkman phone, and that's always been known as good thing.
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... TG01 with 9,9 mm was for a long time the thinnest smartphone.
....thinnest smartphone= thinnest loudspeaker= poor sound
... but i love it ...
Allegedly Phantasm X3 is the music player that gives the best sound quality on windows mobile, but good luck obtaining a copy even legitmately.
As mentioned, have it might be worth while trying a different 'radio' with the rom, as if it can effect call quality, maybe it can affect sound quality as well. Which country are you in?
I'm from England and I don't really think that where I leave has anything to do with, the quality of sound. The hardware isn't too good it does not support 320 sample rate
But guys I do have sound that can be accepted, it's still not good, but there is not clicking ans stuff. I have installed miRom8 with WOWHD already intergrated.
I will stay with it, because it runs quite smoothly and many functions that are useful. AND MOST IMPORTANT SOUND IS BIT BETTER.
thanks for help
I've tested a lot of Roms and I have a couple of TG01 : Sound quality it's always the same. It's hardware related, not software.
Said this, sound quality it's average. Using device speakers is quite poor (perhaps due to the thickness, as said before) but with headphones it's not bad, even good in my opinion
And if you use a pair of good headphones and SRS HD switched ON, sound it's superb
Instead, nobody says nothing about voice record quality. Its awful, the worst record device I've never heard . Do you agree?
Hi I am new to this forum. I used Touch and Kaiser in the past.
Have been using TG01 for a few weeks and love it.
I am trying to use it as a music player via stereo bluetooth headset, using coreplayer and in mp3 or wma format. The quality of sound is awful. Then I change the music format as flac which is a lossless format and improves the quality a bit. But the human voice is like a digital nature, worse of all, still not much bass. SRS HD helps a bit on the voice, but not the bass (I have to admit my headset is not a very decent one)
Two questions:
1. I understand a quality headset will definitely improve the bass quality, does the bluetooth transmission limit the bitrate or sound frequency?
2. Any recommendation on the tweak, media player or setup?
ccm081 said:
Hi I am new to this forum. I used Touch and Kaiser in the past.
Have been using TG01 for a few weeks and love it.
I am trying to use it as a music player via stereo bluetooth headset, using coreplayer and in mp3 or wma format. The quality of sound is awful. Then I change the music format as flac which is a lossless format and improves the quality a bit. But the human voice is like a digital nature, worse of all, still not much bass. SRS HD helps a bit on the voice, but not the bass (I have to admit my headset is not a very decent one)
Two questions:
1. I understand a quality headset will definitely improve the bass quality, does the bluetooth transmission limit the bitrate or sound frequency?
2. Any recommendation on the tweak, media player or setup?
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Try a different music player, S2P is good, and you can use the music player while the screen is locked.
As i said earlier Phantasm is the best audio player available for winmo, but i have never used it.
I don't think SRS WoW HD will really help too much to be honest.

[Q] Speaker Volume

I've had my TFP for 2 days now, very happy in general about the device. The on thing that does bother me though is the speaker volume. When I play the same youtube video on both my TFP and iPhone 4 (aiming the iPhone speaker away from me just like the TFP speaker is) the volume on the TFP is considerably lower than on the IP4. To be honest, and I am far from deaf, some youtube video's are just impossible to watch because of this low volume. MKV files in bsPlayer or Dice are very low in volume as well.
Is this normal?
edit: Two other q's:
2. Unlocking the device by keyboard using the mouse buttons/unlock key just stopped working, anyone else had this?
3. Is there a keyboard key to get into the Task Switcher/Recent Apps?
I honestly can say that my Prime is lovely and loud, never any issues with volume. Check all your volume levels in Settings > Sound > Volumes, mine are all at max. I assume you've probably already done that though.
Yea everything is set to max. I know there are apps in the store with which you can boost you volume, but im not sure how safe these are for the speaker. Since I don't know anyone with a TFP I have no one to compare my device with. It just seems strange to me that the TFP seems to have lower max volume than my phone.
I am using an app called Volume+. It works great at increasing the sound volume and customizing the bass, mids, treble.
And you are not afraid Volume+ will mess up your speaker forever?
pmuch12345 said:
I am using an app called Volume+. It works great at increasing the sound volume and customizing the bass, mids, treble.
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+1 for this app, I've been using it on my nexus s since may and have had no issues. You can set it pretty high before it starts distorting your volume--as long as you don't set the volume to max all the time, it shouldn't do anything to your speakers. Just make sure the max volume isn't distorting anything
Volume+ is the ultimate app to boost volume. My prime sounds very loud n clear now. It works. Checkout the thread on it in themes n apps section.
I've had select youtube videos be lower than others, but the prime's sound is usually pretty loud. Its loud enough to turn to about 85% and it play music in a crowded room and everyone still be able to hear the music (e.g. hotel room party). I haven't used Volume+, but I I just installed it and will use it now.
mizzery85 said:
I've had select youtube videos be lower than others, but the prime's sound is usually pretty loud. Its loud enough to turn to about 85% and it play music in a crowded room and everyone still be able to hear the music (e.g. hotel room party). I haven't used Volume+, but I I just installed it and will use it now.
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Make sure to follow the instructions. Best to use thread in themes n apps section as a reference. This also boosts headphone volume also if you check it off. After you installed n set it up, make sure to go into prime settings, then sound, then music fx. Make sure the volume+ one is checked off n press OK. Might have to press OK a couple times if it tries to throw up an error. Whatever you do, don't go trying to Max everything out in volume +. Best to leave sound on "good" quality.

Could I get rid of beats audio

I don't have beats headphones, and it completely sucks. Are there any roms which will delete it, and give it "normal" audio instead?
r_david562 said:
I don't have beats headphones, and it completely sucks. Are there any roms which will delete it, and give it "normal" audio instead?
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You should be able to turn it off, even on the stock rom.
Turning off beats does not return audio quality back to "normal" or "flat" how some would say. It actually makes the low and high frequencies lower than flat, causing sound to appear weak. That way when you turn beats on, the equalizer boosts those high and low end frequencies, which has a greater impact than If it just rose the audio from a regular flat response.
I've deleted the "Sound enhancer" app with Titanium Backup to remove any sound 'enhancing' stuff from Sense. If you do that you can also remove the "HtcBeatsNotify" app as it won't be needed anymore.
I'm pretty sure deleting this app is sufficient to disable Beats because the sound I'm getting is the same as with a CM10.1 ROM which in theory should give an untouched output.
I've tried playing a bit with the "snd3254" executable in a terminal, to try to force Beats back on to test back and forth, but it gives an error if I try to change DSP modes.

[Q] Edit/Disable headphones specific eq presets for MDR NC31E

Hello! I need help with modifying the stock sony ROM 4.4.4 or 5.
In one of the updates Sony introduced headphones profiles (menu in audio settings). One of them is for noise-cancelling Sony MDR NC31E. However, I hate that preset. The problem is that if I set it to "general", the noise-cancelling wont work.
I would like to disable system wide equalizer changes this profile enables, but keep noise cancelling active. The best way will be to partly rewrite it with "general" preset maybe? Can I do so? Where should I look for files responsible for those settings?
Right now I'm still on 4.4.4, but soon switch to 5.0.2

Built-In equalizer?

Hey all! Just bought the 7.1 from B&H for $349 to replace my Moto g5 plus which is full of issues. One thing I will miss is being able to install V4A (Viper equalizer). I can tune the settings and make my Bluetooth to car connection sound a hell of a lot better than actually changing the settings on the head unit. Was wondering if there was a stock (or built in) EQ for the Nokia 7.1 that I can use to tune Spotify, YouTube, etc. or if I'll have to download a crappy EQ app off of the play store. Is there a built in EQ, or even better, a way to install V4A on this phone without TWRP? Thanks!
Rhyme_Thyme said:
Hey all! Just bought the 7.1 from B&H for $349 to replace my Moto g5 plus which is full of issues. One thing I will miss is being able to install V4A (Viper equalizer). I can tune the settings and make my Bluetooth to car connection sound a hell of a lot better than actually changing the settings on the head unit. Was wondering if there was a stock (or built in) EQ for the Nokia 7.1 that I can use to tune Spotify, YouTube, etc. or if I'll have to download a crappy EQ app off of the play store. Is there a built in EQ, or even better, a way to install V4A on this phone without TWRP? Thanks!
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There is a way to change the Bluetooth codec in the dev menue, not the same as an EQ but wouldn't you want the signal to transfer as true as possible and use your speaker source EQ?
tibman said:
There is a way to change the Bluetooth codec in the dev menue, not the same as an EQ but wouldn't you want the signal to transfer as true as possible and use your speaker source EQ?
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Yeah I got the phone, saw the stuff in the devs. To answer everyone's question, there is a built in EQ, but you have to open Spotify to use it (not sure if GPM or Pandora work). It's not terrible, but certainly not as good as V4A. And to respond to your question, I don't think the signal transfer is really touched with an EQ. The EQ adds bass and lets me adjust my mids to the way I like them. Like I said, my head unit is garbage. The EQ practically does nothing to improve bass or mids. At first I thought it was the speakers but it isn't. Thats why I wanted a built in EQ on my phone, until I get a new head unit at least.

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