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Along with Lenovo Vibe Z2 Pro, but Lenovo have not so good display calibration and sound in headphones, also they have no oled display.
Display.
(hi-tech mail review)
Alpha
Delta E grayscale 1,35 (lower is better)
Delta E rgbcmy 2,74 (lower is better)
S5 LTE-A
Delta E grayscale 2,66
Delta E rgbcmy 2,57
S5 and S5 LTE-A display comparison
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8258/evaluating-samsungs-qhd-amoled-displays
gamut (closer to dark triangle is better)
Alpha
https://hi-tech.imgsmail.ru/hitech_...84x-/i/75/3b/a0a3bcfc8cf0a86e318cbad46151.jpg
S5 LTE-A
https://hi-tech.imgsmail.ru/hitech_...84x-/i/0c/9b/0c44b4166acd129f839a2d121f27.jpg
S5
https://hi-tech.imgsmail.ru/hitech_...84x-/i/e3/77/20b3f02aa0736a44858e20aca287.jpg
iPhone 6 (they have blur in 60fps video and menu, worse viewing angles, worse contrast, worse black color because LCD display)
Delta E grayscale 6,69
Delta E rgbcmy 3,15
Z3 and Z3 compact have very very bad calibration
Z2 and Z2 compact have very bad calibration
also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2742538
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2746766
http://www.ixbt.com/mobile/images/sony-xperia-z2/vs-pict.jpg
http://www.ixbt.com/mobile/images/sony-xperia-z2/vs-black-angle-alt.jpg
G3 have bad calibration
also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2797810
http://anandtech.com/show/8169/the-lg-g3-review/2
http://www.ixbt.com/mobile/images/lg-g3/vs-black-angle-alt-l.jpg
http://www.ixbt.com/mobile/images/lg-g3/vs-pict-angle-l.jpg
http://www.ixbt.com/mobile/lg-g3.shtml#display-test
Camera.
Comparison with S5
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=595296&view=findpost&p=33707616
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=595296&view=findpost&p=33719410
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=595296&view=findpost&p=33790691
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=595296&view=findpost&p=33790691
S5 have rosines and oversaturation bug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atqshKOP55c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9m3SskIIvI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZXjByVLw7Y
In this thread comparison with iPhone 5s, Z3 compact and others sony sensor smartphones
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/general/white-balance-t2870875
Audio.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8382/samsung-announces-exynos-5430-first-20nm-samsung-soc
http://www.samsung.com/global/busin...io_Subsystem_for_Samsung_Exynos_Processor.pdf
Well, this is just a mature post, Jesus!
Z3 and Z3 compact have very very bad calibration
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that's strange, because people say that z3 and z3 compact displays are gorgeous
progosu said:
that's strange, because people say that z3 and z3 compact displays are gorgeous
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What people? give me a link
just watch tests
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/bad-calibration-t2887120
worse calibration ever
hey
Try to bend this phone.
I disagree, I had five minutes and alpha galaxy screen LG G3 gives you 3 laps ... and another thing, the price is totally abusive alpha ...
The screen/display on the Alpha is just a big disappointment! Jesus, that penile matrix on the 720p resolution really makes it blury and pixilated!
Damn you Samsung!! Why the hell didn't you give us a full HD option!?? Sigh.......
comparison with z3 compact
Photo
alpha
http://cdn.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsimg/samsung-galaxy-alpha/review/camera/gsmarena_0001.jpg
z3 compact
http://cdn.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsimg/sony-xperia-z3-compact/camera/gsmarena_001.jpg
alpha
http://cdn.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsimg/samsung-galaxy-alpha/review/camera/gsmarena_004.jpg
z3 compact
http://cdn.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsimg/sony-xperia-z3-compact/camera/gsmarena_016.jpg
http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/189f/cr44xqo6abt2wy3fg.jpg
Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OgN7fSbgxU
Audio quality in headphones
stereo crosstalk (higher is better)
alpha
-65.6
z3 compact
-45.1
Dynamic range (higher is better)
alpha
92.7
z3 compact
85.4
Noise level (higher is better)
alpha
-95.7
z3 compact
-85.4
when this come from sony fun,that should we 100% accepted
I'm not sure if I want to give up my Note 3 or S5 for the Alpha. Any thoughts out regarding hands on comparison between the three?
I was looking into the Xperia Z line because of the IP rating and the awesome battery life.
I hate Samsung and Apple so those phones aren't even going to be on my list of options.
I currently have a HTC One m7ul. I was going to buy a Z3 on Amazon and it goes for around ~$630+ while the Z2 is a more friendly $450+.
They both seem to have very similar specs just with some minor changes. I plan on rooting and flashing to most recent version of Sony's software.
1) Is there really much of a difference between the IP58 (Z2) and IP68 (Z3)? I know what they mean and the numbering system, just don't know if it really will make a difference for me...
2) Is paying ~$150 for the Z3 worth it over the Z2? (To me it doesn't seem so, but if anyone has more insight into this)
3) Does the Z2 have double tap to wake (yes, i know this is very minor, but i love this feature)?
Thanks!
1.IP68
6 is for dust and 8 is for water
Z3 has better dust resistance
Z2 is IP58, less dust resistancy and same water resistancy
2. Z2 will be recieving shortly almost all Z3 features, only difference is design, display and camera
More better camera, higher iso range, 12800 vs Z2 3200
Display, identicle but slightly brighter backlight
3. Z2 has double tap to wake
Envious_Data said:
1.IP68
6 is for dust and 8 is for water
Z3 has better dust resistance
Z2 is IP58, less dust resistancy and same water resistancy
2. Z2 will be recieving shortly almost all Z3 features, only difference is design, display and camera
More better camera, higher iso range, 12800 vs Z2 3200
Display, identicle but slightly brighter backlight
3. Z2 has double tap to wake
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Thank you! You think I should go with the Z2 and save a little extra cash?
Its honnestly worth it concidering they are simular
Z3 all it has is better camera, brighter backlight and slighly different design for almost %200 the price of Z2
I would take Z2 over Z3 if i was in your place
Envious_Data said:
1.IP68
6 is for dust and 8 is for water
Z3 has better dust resistance
Z2 is IP58, less dust resistancy and same water resistancy
2. Z2 will be recieving shortly almost all Z3 features, only difference is design, display and camera
More better camera, higher iso range, 12800 vs Z2 3200
Display, identicle but slightly brighter backlight
3. Z2 has double tap to wake
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You're wrong on the camera side Bro! It's iso 12800 vs 6400. Also those high iso values are only available in auto mode and since that's the worst shooting mode on Sony smartphones, I'd say the 12800 thing is just a marketing gimmick. In manual mode both phones have a max iso option of 3200 and then only at 8mp. At full res, they both max out at 800 iso.
The z3 produces sharper photos at full res but as I understand it 4.4.2 has a focusing bug which Google fixed with 4.4.4. Sony obviously didn't compensate for this bug on their 4.4.2 firmware as others did. Also quite a few reviews have claimed the z2's camera to actually perform better especially in video recording. Z3 has a better mic though but the mic on the z2 is said to improve with 4.4.4.
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Chubby_Skunk said:
I was looking into the Xperia Z line because of the IP rating and the awesome battery life.
I hate Samsung and Apple so those phones aren't even going to be on my list of options.
I currently have a HTC One m7ul. I was going to buy a Z3 on Amazon and it goes for around ~$630+ while the Z2 is a more friendly $450+.
They both seem to have very similar specs just with some minor changes. I plan on rooting and flashing to most recent version of Sony's software.
1) Is there really much of a difference between the IP58 (Z2) and IP68 (Z3)? I know what they mean and the numbering system, just don't know if it really will make a difference for me...
2) Is paying ~$150 for the Z3 worth it over the Z2? (To me it doesn't seem so, but if anyone has more insight into this)
3) Does the Z2 have double tap to wake (yes, i know this is very minor, but i love this feature)?
Thanks!
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In terms of ip rating, I doubt users will be able to tell the difference. The z2 survived 6 weeks in sea water. I think that should be fine for anyone lol
Is the z3 worth $150 more than z2? Emphatically NO! The most I'd pay extra for rounded sides and brighter display is maybe $40. That's being generous actually. I also prefer the colour calibration of z2's display. Much warmer than the colder z3.
The z2 has double tap to wake and will soon be on par softwarewise with the z3 once it gets the 4.4.4 update up to and including ps4 remote play.
My advice is wait for z4 in a few months but if you want to take the plunge now, go with z2. Z3 is over priced. It's in the same category of smartphone as z2,m8,s5 and g3 and it's price will drop in line with those soon enough.
Save yourself the $150. Spend it elsewhere. Why give it to Sony for rounded sides?
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zodiac100 said:
You're wrong on the camera side Bro! It's iso
Save yourself the $150. Spend it elsewhere. Why give it to Sony for rounded sides?
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If i understanded right your saying its pointless going for both Z2 or Z3
It would make sense, but seeing Z4 probably being the same as Z3
Id say just go for a ZU or Z at this point, both are cheaper and both are quite nice devices, Z1 i didnt like so much
(its morning time excuse my reading skills)
Envious_Data said:
If i understanded right your saying its pointless going for both Z2 or Z3
It would make sense, but seeing Z4 probably being the same as Z3
Id say just go for a ZU or Z at this point, both are cheaper and both are quite nice devices, Z1 i didnt like so much
(its morning time excuse my reading skills)
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Not saying it's pointless. At this point with the z4 only months away, I'd recommend waiting to see that but if one had to make a choice now, I'd say go with z2. You'll get essentially the same package and user experience for a lot less.
Z and Z1 lack ips live colour led panels and don't have a lot of software features available on the newer models so unless you're after a bargain I wouldn't go with either of those.
I suppose my advice is, go with z2 now or wait for z4. Z3 is over priced!
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Not saying it's pointless. At this point with the z4 only months away, I'd recommend waiting to see that but if one had to make a choice now, I'd say go with z2. You'll get essentially the same package and user experience for a lot less.
Z and Z1 lack ips live colour led panels and don't have a lot of software features available on the newer models so unless you're after a bargain I wouldn't go with either of those.
I suppose my advice is, go with z2 now or wait for z4. Z3 is over priced!
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Agreed
Z2 or Z4
Im not sure about it being a few months away because sony was playing with the idea of 1 year instead of 6 months and it came through a couple times on their social networking pages
Envious_Data said:
Agreed
Z2 or Z4
Im not sure about it being a few months away because sony was playing with the idea of 1 year instead of 6 months and it came through a couple times on their social networking pages
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I've heard that too but trust me if Sony's going to can any of its flagship releases, it'll be the September IFA releases and not the MWC release. There's no way they'll wait until September 2015 to launch a new flashship. They need to have something to go up against the likes of the S6,M9 and G4.
The z3 doesn't stand a chance against any of those. It's already lower specced than the note 4 and even nexus 6.
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I dont know if the thread is over or not but id like to say that the Z2 is an excellant phone, i got mine a month ago, the display is sharp, it never lags and the battery life still amazes me, today I was travelling all day listening to music , playing games and taking photographs from 7:30 A.M and now at 8:00 its at 30%, it is still an excellant phone to this day and i would highly recommend it
Envious_Data said:
Agreed
Z2 or Z4
Im not sure about it being a few months away because sony was playing with the idea of 1 year instead of 6 months and it came through a couple times on their social networking pages
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zodiac100 said:
I've heard that too but trust me if Sony's going to can any of its flagship releases, it'll be the September IFA releases and not the MWC release. There's no way they'll wait until September 2015 to launch a new flashship. They need to have something to go up against the likes of the S6,M9 and G4.
The z3 doesn't stand a chance against any of those. It's already lower specced than the note 4 and even nexus 6.
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I would like to wait for the Z4, but isn't that going to end up being $700+ on launch?? I don't get phones on contract so that generally why i wanted to go with the Z2 in the first place, other than the fact that the Z3 isn't much of an upgrade over the Z2.
Guys, would you help me deciding between both phones? I am coming from Xperia SP
- Z2: What I like:
Better design -for me-, better price, larger developmental community/more better future custom roms, larger battery..
or
- Z3 Plus: What I like:
Better front Camera/Dual Sim/more predictable official updates/better waterproofness/more over-heating issues..
I don't like Z3 ://
you may help me If stated new or neglected something in the comparison like: the front cameras don't differ too much, or Z3+ is not expected to receive Android N or expected to grow large custom roms community like Z2 (I don't think so) etc..
Thanks a lot ))
I think that the most important is the price. It should be your main argument.
After that comes everything else.
To be honest front camera on z2 isn't too good, a lot of noise mostly in darker light conditions.
Z2 comes with (great) headphones which is a big +
Temperature, idk. if you do care about it then don't choose z3+
The flaps may be a pretty important argument. On z2 you've got 2 flaps = 2 times bigger risk that water gets in.
The choice is your, but for me Xperia Z2 is the most functional phone I've ever had (and I would upgrade to z3+ if it didn't cost 2x so much as z2, because it's not worth it)
I would go for the z2.
Much cheaper and isn't really plagued by overheating issues even when gaming, while the z3+ is known for these issues because of it's snapdragon 810, plus it's specs are not really outdated to be honest
Thanks a lot ) here I found an offer for Z3+ that it is not that expensive as x2 price the Z2 at all
That's what made me think about it .. but now I am favoring the Z2 over Z3/Z3+, but now after more searching .. the LG G4 came up with another offer in the same market lol ://
Its camera is amazing but its battery is toooo bad .. do you have any idea about it ? I don't think it deserves taking a risk .. what do you think ??
Yes, that's what I am thinking about .. and the one thing remaining is .. to hope that it will receive a decent Android M Support
Lg. Hmm. I've had g2 and it was pretty good, especially the screen to size ratio and it's quality.
Xperia devices offer waterproofness, good headphones and you can use it with a pencil
If you don't care about these things you may take the g4. 3000mAh also isn't so bad.
But remember that Lg devices get faster cheap in case you would like to sell it someday.
oh, I wasn't paying attension for that
Well, I think I am going to get Z2 )
Thanks a lot for your time )
First at all, sorry for my english, i am spanish
I come from a sony xperia x, z ultra and z5, which has left me very good taste, a cell phone 5 inch good camera and good performance and screen, which I had is with the snapdragon xperia x 650.
Screen looking for something more than a phablet, especially good camera and good performance ...
3 days ago I bought my new Sony Xperia Ultra XA, user I was 2 years ago great xperia z ultra, and if I think I've won in all but water resistance and gpu.
First, the quality panel xa xperia ultra is excellent and with a lot of very good brightness, whites are pure white, blacks are good, that if, without being an AMOLED, has no side frames, is a big plus Please screen, for me, despite not having the Triluminous display technology is better than the ultra z.
As for cameras more of the same, both the front and rear they humiliate xperia z ultra, who only has 8 mpx without flash ... makes decent photos only during the day, with the ultra xa, thanks to flash and the optical stabilizer front camera, you make good pictures generally ....
As for the graphics and processor if, in graphic is below the mali T860 mp2 the Adreno 330, but has not given me any problems or hitches with any game, in terms of cpu, despite being eight cortex to 53, the develops mobile phenomenal, mediatek long ago makes and assembles good processors ...
As for audio, the other better, the speaker is more potent than xperia z ultra, with more and more serious force, like listening to music on the loudspeaker at half volume spare me ...
Then a paste, the ultra xa is not waterproof, but I do not usually wash in the shower with mobile ...
RAM up to 3GB of 2, the quality of materials in the ultra xa is very good, polycarbonate and metal, gives a sense of quality, also we won rapidad load thanks to the battery Qnovo ...
These days doing me about 5 hours and 25 minutes of screen is not my max in that sense, but do not see anything wrong.
In short, after coming xperia x, z ultra and Z5, for me is not a downgrade at all, I'd say this to the level of these, helium p10 processor is a high midrange performs very well, and not everything is processor, also this hand sony quality and optimization, and it shows.
a greeting and I hope you have served my great paragraph:good:
Agreed, the screen is the big winner on this unit, just wonderful.
The screen is indeed wonderful on this device. One of the best LCD I have layed my eyes on. It's just so uniform (my display is at least) and it has great black level and also good contrast as a result. I enjoy the screen too much to sell this phone even though it's not my main phone right now. Love the camera too it takes very fine images for the most part. This phone is excellent if you take it for what it is.
Today Sony announced Xperia XZ2 and XZ2 compact at the MWC 2018 so I wanted to have a look at X compact users' opinions (like myself) and see if we are deciding to let XC go or not yet...
So here's my opinion :
In the beginning when I the leaked photos I didnt like the thickness of the XZ2c but now that I have seen the Hands-on videos Im becomin more intrested in buying it (Video here)
And my other reason is that the screen is now HDR 1080p and 5" so it means more colors and more usabality!
There's also a better camera and better front facin speakers.
Btw,
Dynamic vibrations are not available in Xz2 compact
And although it has dual front cameras, its only 5 mp!!!!
So if I buy it, it would be because of the new looks amd much much better gpu performance and of course HDR screen, otherwise, XC is doin a great job for me specially now that it has android Oreo...
Feel free to share your thoughts!
bye bye Sony
Very disappointed with Sony :crying:
Xz2 compact is not compact anymore. Thick (12mm), tall (135mm), no headphone jack, fingerprint reader on the back. What the f*ck is Sony doing?
The only fast compact device on the market is no more. Well, back to Samsung
NO, I'm really sad about this, but at least we have the XZ1 Compact to upgrade to, which seems like the best Compact they've ever made, basically updating SOC and better, matte, metal back/sides compared to the slippery, glossy sides we have on the X Compact...the lack of headphone jack and side fingerprint scanner on the XZ2's are really unfortunate changes imo
Kianush said:
Today Sony announced Xperia XZ2 and XZ2 compact at the MWC 2018 so I wanted to have a look at X compact users' opinions (like myself) and see if we are deciding to let XC go or not yet...
So here's my opinion :
In the beginning when I the leaked photos I didnt like the thickness of the XZ2c but now that I have seen the Hands-on videos Im becomin more intrested in buying it (Video here)
And my other reason is that the screen is now HDR 1080p and 5" so it means more colors and more usabality!
There's also a better camera and better front facin speakers.
Btw,
Dynamic vibrations are not available in Xz2 compact
And although it has dual front cameras, its only 5 mp!!!!
So if I buy it, it would be because of the new looks amd much much better gpu performance and of course HDR screen, otherwise, XC is doin a great job for me specially now that it has android Oreo...
Feel free to share your thoughts!
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5" screen is not compact. I was already pushing my limits when I started with Z1c, (127mm tall), 4 years ago. I only upgraded to Z3c and Xc because they haven't gotten any bigger. I won't do 135mm..
No.
No. No real innovations, but it's gotten bigger and lost features like head phone jack and fingerprint on the side. The camera has to be on par with Samsung and iPhone to even consider the XZ2.
Maybe XZ3 Compact they ll back to the road, is there any real one-handed phone that we can expect this year?
Blue-Haze said:
Maybe XZ3 Compact they ll back to the road, is there any real one-handed phone that we can expect this year?
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Yeah, for me after a lot of reading i just think xz1 is not worth the cost, xz2 compact is like a new model phone. I am just going to wait for xz3 or any other compact version.
My next phone will probably not be from Sony. If I convert to a "normal" size it doesn't have to be Sony anymore.