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I just purchased a SG SII here in the US and later found out it is a UK phone (the sales rep said it was a US model)
anyway, the phone works great EXCEPT it will not log onto T-Mobiles 3G network. All I get is EDGE which is terrible.
How can I get it to go to 3G?
Spoke with T-Mobile, even got a new sim card. No help
Spoke wth Samsung US - they tried, could not help and then said to contact the UK.
Called Samsung UK and they said it should work, if not, bring it back as it is broken!
anyway, is there some sort of settings that I can change to make it work in the US.
I also need it to work in Brazil as I will be going there and will be using the Brazilian Tim network and installing their sim card.
thank you for your assistance in advance.
The phone is suppose to be:
HSPA+ 21Mbps/ HSUPA 5.76Mbps
EDGE/ GPRS Class 12
Quad band GSM 850/900/1800/1900
Quad band UMTS 850/900/1900/2100
Did you limit the phone to only work with 2G in the settings?
Check Wireless Network settings.
Much more better would be goto Settings->About phone, tell us what Baseband, and Kernel, and ROM version you are using.
Reboot phone.
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pblocal said:
How can I get it to go to 3G?
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You can't, it doesnt work on tmobiles aws frequency.
peachpuff said:
You can't, it doesnt work on tmobiles aws frequency.
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Exactly, that phone will never work on T-Mobile USA 3G network, refund it or switch to AT&T. Makes you wish someone would regulate mobile networks here.
Edit: SGS2 should work fine on TIM Brazil.
you guys are absolutely certain that this phone will not work on T-Mobile?
what about certainty that it will work on Tim? I live in Brazil and defintely need it to work there.
Here, in the US, when I return next year, I can alway switch over to AT+T.
I need to be certain because if I get to brazil and it does not work, I am screwed because then it is almost impossible to get anything done to it.
BTW- they have been saying that t-mobile will have this same phone in a few months. How will that one be able to work? will it be possible to flash that info to this phone when it comes out?
thanks
pblocal said:
you guys are absolutely certain that this phone will not work on T-Mobile?
what about certainty that it will work on Tim? I live in Brazil and defintely need it to work there.
Here, in the US, when I return next year, I can alway switch over to AT+T.
I need to be certain because if I get to brazil and it does not work, I am screwed because then it is almost impossible to get anything done to it.
BTW- they have been saying that t-mobile will have this same phone in a few months. How will that one be able to work? will it be possible to flash that info to this phone when it comes out?
thanks
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The US T-mobile Variant is completely different from the UK model, won't be the same. Also it's true you can never get 3G with T-Mobile, don't know anything about TIM though.
T-Mobile uses the 1700 AWS band which this phone does not use so yes... You will NEVER get 3g or HSPA+ with T-Mobile U.S.
From Wikipedia's list of UMTS frequencies:
TIM Brasil Brazil 2008 April 850/2100
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UMTS_networks
The phone will work fine for you in Brazil.
kcaz said:
From Wikipedia's list of UMTS frequencies:
TIM Brasil Brazil 2008 April 850/2100
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UMTS_networks
The phone will work fine for you in Brazil.
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so when you say fine, the phone, 3g to get to the internet, etc etc will all work?
as it is here, the phone works great and when with wi-fi, the internet is great but EDGE sucks ass.
So, as I already know that I am beating the dead horse. 3G here with T-Mobile is never going to happen but it will work with AT+T, in Brazil, the phone for calls will work fine, 3G will also work fine too.
does anyone know about claro, vivo or oi in brazil? just wondering....
and what about other carriers in the US, will it work with anyone beside AT+T?
thanks again. this has been very useful!
EDGE runs on GPRS. Your phone matches TIM's UMTS frequencies so it will have 3G data on that network.
just pretend your like a tmobile iphone customer E
vabeachfc3s said:
just pretend your like a tmobile iphone customer E
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I do not get that, some sort of inside joke?
Why would you buy a phone without checking on what radio bands it works , its not like US has only one provider they all have different bands/frequencies.
ghost77 said:
Why would you buy a phone without checking on what radio bands it works , its not like US has only one provider they all have different bands/frequencies.
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as I said in my first post, I was told it was a US version phone. HENCE, I figured it would work in the US.
I buy unlocked phones as I am in Brazil 9 months a year and Cali 3 months a year so I can not be under contract.
but thanks for the help on this.
LiFE1688 said:
The phone is suppose to be:
HSPA+ 21Mbps/ HSUPA 5.76Mbps
EDGE/ GPRS Class 12
Quad band GSM 850/900/1800/1900
Quad band UMTS 850/900/1900/2100
Did you limit the phone to only work with 2G in the settings?
Check Wireless Network settings.
Much more better would be goto Settings->About phone, tell us what Baseband, and Kernel, and ROM version you are using.
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so if I have been schooled properly. T-Mobile uses 1700 and 2100, so without the 1700 band, it wont work!
I guess I got to talk with AT+T
will any other carrier in the US support this?????
thanks again to all who have helped....
pblocal said:
as I said in my first post, I was told it was a US version phone. HENCE, I figured it would work in the US.
I buy unlocked phones as I am in Brazil 9 months a year and Cali 3 months a year so I can not be under contract.
but thanks for the help on this.
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And it does work in US ON AT&T. T-Mobile is only a minor carrier.
So it is your fault.
LiFE1688 said:
The phone is suppose to be:
HSPA+ 21Mbps/ HSUPA 5.76Mbps
EDGE/ GPRS Class 12
Quad band GSM 850/900/1800/1900
Quad band UMTS 850/900/1900/2100
Did you limit the phone to only work with 2G in the settings?
Check Wireless Network settings.
Much more better would be goto Settings->About phone, tell us what Baseband, and Kernel, and ROM version you are using.
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it seems that only T-Mobile and a few Canadian carriers (and cincinati bell) use the 1700 network! I wonder why?
they need to join the rest of the world and get on board with 2100!
kcaz said:
From Wikipedia's list of UMTS frequencies:
TIM Brasil Brazil 2008 April 850/2100
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UMTS_networks
The phone will work fine for you in Brazil.
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thanks for this link. it eases my mind about returning to brazil with a 600 phone! I needed to know it would work....
I recently purchased an unlock galaxy s2 i9100. It is supposed to be GSM unlock with HSPA+ 21Mbps/HSUPA 5.76Mbps, EDGE/GPRS Class 12, Quad band GSM 850/900/1800/1900, Quad band UMTS 850/900/1900/2100 hardware capabilities. since I have gotten the phone i have not been able to connect to anything but edge. Tmobile assured me i had the correct APN setting. I would like to know if anyone know what I could to to enable the HSPA+ T mobile US uses UMTS 2100 to connect. I rooted and flashed the lite'ning rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1095274
I am a bit of a newby and would appreciate any advice.
Nope you won't get hspa speeds on Tmobile with the current international version. You have to wait for the Tmobile variant. International version gets
3g speeds only on att.
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Kantankerousmind said:
T mobile US uses UMTS 2100 to connect.
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This is correct. However, it's only used for one way traffic (either uploading or downloading, i'm not sure which). UMTS 1700 is used for the other direction of traffic on T-Mobile. This means no 3G/4G without both frequencies.
Your 2 options:
1. Get a T-Mobile phone.
2. Switch to AT&T.
Electroz said:
This is correct. However, it's only used for one way traffic (either uploading or downloading, i'm not sure which). UMTS 1700 is used for the other direction of traffic on T-Mobile. This means no 3G/4G without both frequencies.
Your 2 options:
1. Get a T-Mobile phone.
2. Switch to AT&T.
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kirdroid said:
Nope you won't get hspa speeds on Tmobile with the current international version. You have to wait for the Tmobile variant. International version gets
3g speeds only on att.
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thanks for the quick and concise responses. I have a clarification: does this mean that I when Tmobile comes out with the variant my phone will be able to upgrade to Hspa via a rom or radio update or that if i want to keep this model i will have to wait to swap it out for the tmobile version
Kantankerousmind said:
thanks for the quick and concise responses. I have a clarification: does this mean that I when Tmobile comes out with the variant my phone will be able to upgrade to Hspa via a rom or radio update or that if i want to keep this model i will have to wait to swap it out for the tmobile version
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The I9100 will NEVER work on T-Mobile. The SGS2 that they are releasing has different HARDWARE. There will never be a way to make the phone you have now work on T-Mobile 3G.
As others have said you'll need a different phone in order to get it to work on T-Mobile USA's 3G/4G frequencies.
You'd need a penta-band phone in order for it to work on all of them. I think Intel is curently working on that or already did but that's all there is. You'd need both 1700/2100mhz in order to use it with 3G.
I don't get how people don't research before they buy!!
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Ok, I'm buying a G3 thats for Verizon but for my T-Mobile service. I want to flash roms etc and I'm coming from a unlocked T-Mobile Note 2. Anything I should know before I buy it? Is it fine with T-Mobile?
T-Mobile runs on GSM network and Verizon runs on CDMA so the two won't work.
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I thought it was SIM unlocked and worked
digitallure said:
T-Mobile runs on GSM network and Verizon runs on CDMA so the two won't work.
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Don't give false information if you have no idea what you're talking about? If this information were true, how am I using a Verizon G3 on ATT with LTE?
The Verizon G3 is unlocked so it will work on either T-Mobile and ATT. It picks up LTE and HSPA+ on both networks. But LTE depends on what frequency is used in your area.
daniel4653 said:
Don't give false information if you have no idea what you're talking about? If this information were true, how am I using a Verizon G3 on ATT with LTE?
The Verizon G3 is unlocked so it will work on either T-Mobile and ATT. It picks up LTE and HSPA+ on both networks. But LTE depends on what frequency is used in your area.
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Alright, you got it
LTE on band4 works fine on the vs985 on both T-Mobile and Cricket pre-paid. H+ gsm works as a fallback, too. Verizon phones have had GSM radios since at least the Droid3, if they were "World Phones", like ALL current LTE models are. Verizon used to require a code be entered before GSM would work, and even then no USA GSM networks would work. But that's all in the past.
lowridincrew said:
Ok, I'm buying a G3 thats for Verizon but for my T-Mobile service. I want to flash roms etc and I'm coming from a unlocked T-Mobile Note 2. Anything I should know before I buy it? Is it fine with T-Mobile?
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every lollipop rom will pop up with a call forwarding hass been disabled bug that happens when dropping for lte to H or H+
it will work but the bug will annoy you all the time and i never was able to find away to disable it
4.4.4 roms work amazing tho so id say stick to those for now
digitallure said:
T-Mobile runs on GSM network and Verizon runs on CDMA so the two won't work.
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Actually it will work. I'm using mine on T-Mobile now. 4g lte is limited since verizon g3 only supports one band thats compatible with tmobile. But hspa+ or regular 4g works, spa or 3g works edge gprs all of those work.
Hi again... I went into town, I'm on Virgin which is an EE virtual provider. And the town should be coverd by 4G from EE... So any reason why my phone cant get find LTE?
I get H+ but thats it.
NutsyUK said:
Hi again... I went into town, I'm on Virgin which is an EE virtual provider. And the town should be coverd by 4G from EE... So any reason why my phone cant get find LTE?
I get H+ but thats it.
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Are you a new or existing virgin mobile user. If existing did you get a new SIM from Virgin? As they need to issue a new one to you if you want to go 4G.
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Yeah I got the new sim...
NutsyUK said:
Yeah I got the new sim...
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There was also something else I read (virgin user here to - currently non 4G) about having to wait until your next billing cycle until you can begin using 4G services. Annoying and I've seen lots of people complaining as they have to wait to their refresh date which could be anywhere up to a few weeks.
Probably stating the obvious but have you selected the LTE option under (preferred network type) mobile network settings?
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Yep LTE set as preferred
Also I ordered the sim before my last billing date. The sim turned up about a week after the billing date.
Maybe the next billing date?
NutsyUK said:
Yep LTE set as preferred
Also I ordered the sim before my last billing date. The sim turned up about a week after the billing date.
Maybe the next billing date?
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Possibly yeah, that's the only thing I can think off. Worth it to keep trying the odd reboot or switching in and out of aeroplane mode in case that helps it kick in.
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Check what LTE bands Virgin uses and see if the Redmi Note 4 is compatible with said bands. I'm on T-Mobile and the Note 4 does not support it's LTE.
TheSorton said:
Check what LTE bands Virgin uses and see if the Redmi Note 4 is compatible with said bands. I'm on T-Mobile and the Note 4 does not support it's LTE.
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They use EE's, who use bands *3(1800) and 7(2600), so definitely compatible.
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Have u checked to use another provider?
i have a similar issue, not all providers that have these bands listed use them in all locations, i am with Rogers in canada who does have band 7, which this phone has, but they only have it in certain areas, not the full coverage, so i sit on 3g a lot.
Check this site, i shows that your provider also has limited coverage on the available bands. willmyphonework.net
I have the same issue. I'm with Three and it keeps dropping to H+ far too regularly.
Had this sim for a while and worked perfectly well on my Jiayu S3.
T3rry1 said:
i have a similar issue, not all providers that have these bands listed use them in all locations, i am with Rogers in canada who does have band 7, which this phone has, but they only have it in certain areas, not the full coverage, so i sit on 3g a lot.
Check this site, i shows that your provider also has limited coverage on the available bands. willmyphonework.net
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It happens to me. What I found from google, it said Note 4 Hardware supports Band 4 and Band 7, but the miui 8 locks them.
Still looking for a way to open those bands.
Galaxy_Galaxy said:
It happens to me. What I found from google, it said Note 4 Hardware supports Band 4 and Band 7, but the miui 8 locks them.
Still looking for a way to open those bands.
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Band 7 should be supported and usable but I doubt the hardware supports band 4.
You should have gotten the Redmi Note 3 instead, the Chinese version supports band 4, 7 and 40 out of the bands used in Canada, and the Special Edition ("international version") supports bands 2, 4, 7 and 40. The Chinese model also supports 3G on band 4 (1700/AWS).
T3rry1 said:
i have a similar issue, not all providers that have these bands listed use them in all locations, i am with Rogers in canada who does have band 7, which this phone has, but they only have it in certain areas, not the full coverage, so i sit on 3g a lot.
Check this site, i shows that your provider also has limited coverage on the available bands. willmyphonework.net
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FIDO does not support band 7 too, (even though some sites said Fido supports band 7)
My friend is using Bell, his phone shows 4G instead of 3G.
Mi A3 Global version supports different LTE bands than the India version as shown in the information here
https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/xiaomi-mi-a3
Is there a way to enable Global LTE bands as shown to be supported in the Mi A3 bought in India ? I am in the US and able to connect only to 2G network on T Mobile
I'm in the same boat. I'm in the US and have the EU version and I'm only getting H+ which I guess is like 3.5g instead of LTE. I wonder if flashing the international ROM will do anything. I'm going on a trip soon though so I don't want to be messing with this phone in case I brick it or something.
barth2 said:
I'm in the same boat. I'm in the US and have the EU version and I'm only getting H+ which I guess is like 3.5g instead of LTE. I wonder if flashing the international ROM will do anything. I'm going on a trip soon though so I don't want to be messing with this phone in case I brick it or something.
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I might be a little late, but both the Global and EU ROMS/variants support same bands. I have global version flashed to EU ROM, and there is no connectivity difference. I use T-Mobile and get LTE most of the time (bands 2 and 4). I do wonder if it's possible to unlock/access other LTE bands (like 12,66,71)?