Hi guys,
I feel it's really sad to see there are so few options to mod our Xperia phone.
I think Sony made a great phone with pretty good OS and feature set, as well as design, but we have almost zero modding options.
There's no official TWRP, which seems odd since there's an official one for the much similar Xperia X Performance...
Also, no Lineage, no custom ROMs other than a few ones that aren't really famous and well known like Lineage or others.
Do you guys know why is this phone so underrated? Is it so difficult to port ROMs to or are there just a few users?
Cheers
PS Still hope for an official Lineage/TWRP port... fingers crossed for now
Well there are two stock based roms and OmniRom for the xx, which is not too bad. There are also at least two twrp versions around that are not official, but do what they need to do. If you are used to Lineage you'll like Omni!
That said, Sony had hoped to sell double the number of devices in the x-series as they actually did. Unfortunately demand is not so high for midrange phones that perform as good as last year's premium phones.
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Well there are two stock based roms and OmniRom for the xx, which is not too bad. There are also at least two twrp versions around that are not official, but do what they need to do. If you are used to Lineage you'll like Omni!
That said, Sony had hoped to sell double the number of devices in the x-series as they actually did. Unfortunately demand is not so high for midrange phones that perform as good as last year's premium phones.
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I actually think that the demand for mid-rangers are actually fairly high if it was at the right price bracket.
The Xperia X with its $899 or was it $799NZD was actually on par with discounted flagships like the regular 32GB S7 making it a bad buy.
Likewise, I bought this phone when it was on special at $549 and while it's not exactly cheap, that is the price it should honestly be sold at.
It was a touch below the price of the Galaxy A5 2016 making this phone the more appealing premium mid-ranger.
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MrAndroid12 said:
I actually think that the demand for mid-rangers are actually fairly high if it was at the right price bracket.
The Xperia X with its $899 or was it $799NZD was actually on par with discounted flagships like the regular 32GB S7 making it a bad buy.
Likewise, I bought this phone when it was on special at $549 and while it's not exactly cheap, that is the price it should honestly be sold at.
It was a touch below the price of the Galaxy A5 2016 making this phone the more appealing premium mid-ranger.
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I agree that the xx was too expensive when it was introduced. I also bought it after the price had dropped .
Seriously guys? I actually got mine for a pretty good price (320 euros). That's not a lot for the phone's specs tbh.
Anyway I agree that there's some TWRP around, but how deep can a user trust a dropbox-hosted custom recovery made by who knows...
Not to disrespect by any means the dev behind it, but being this my main phone I'd prefer a more official recovery.
Also gotta try this OmniRom, seems a good project, but still no way of trying it without the proper twrp.
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Seriously guys? I actually got mine for a pretty good price (320 euros). That's not a lot for the phone's specs tbh.
Anyway I agree that there's some TWRP around, but how deep can a user trust a dropbox-hosted custom recovery made by who knows...
Not to disrespect by any means the dev behind it, but being this my main phone I'd prefer a more official recovery.
Also gotta try this OmniRom, seems a good project, but still no way of trying it without the proper twrp.
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I know right? I do not understand how they paid so much for this thing. I payed 320 months ago. Now it goes for as low as 280! For that price, you cannot get a better deal unless you want some chinese stuff. Personally I spent months researching phones at that price and this was the best.
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I know right? I do not understand how they paid so much for this thing. I payed 320 months ago. Now it goes for as low as 280! For that price, you cannot get a better deal unless you want some chinese stuff. Personally I spent months researching phones at that price and this was the best.
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Yeah it's a damn good deal at 300, and keep in mind i bought it some months ago when it was even better.
That being said the development behind it is terrible
JoeWan said:
Hi guys,
I feel it's really sad to see there are so few options to mod our Xperia phone.
I think Sony made a great phone with pretty good OS and feature set, as well as design, but we have almost zero modding options.
There's no official TWRP, which seems odd since there's an official one for the much similar Xperia X Performance...
Also, no Lineage, no custom ROMs other than a few ones that aren't really famous and well known like Lineage or others.
Do you guys know why is this phone so underrated? Is it so difficult to port ROMs to or are there just a few users?
Cheers
PS Still hope for an official Lineage/TWRP port... fingers crossed for now
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to answer you question, you have to consider SONY's health as business entity! the company had 2.3+ Billion losses in 2015 even with z5 and z5p on their side! (there are many reasons for that)
1. they don't usually link their devices with careers (like samsung does)
2. only gsm
3 poor marketing (the biggest)
4 drmkeys concept (for developers)
now when Xperia X was launched when sony dumped whole Z project and never released Z6 , (may be XZP is another name of z6p) . also X was never released in many countries! in my country there is no Xperia dealer and i order them from dubai.
when extremely talented devices gets extinct, you don't see much activity in developer world also! , If you wana see the most successful and popular ever xperia! , in my opinion Xperia Z (C6602/03 ) is the king. there are so many roms, tweaks, recoveries, for that device! Sony was down very well that time!
now, coming back to X, i have X, its nice phone, today got 7.1.1 from sony. so they haven't completely abandon it; its just its not a very popular device in developer world
I got my XX almost a year ago. Used it like 4 months as my only phone, then as a jukebox when I got a Honor 8 and then an OnePlus 3T, those are good phones but there's something I like of my Xperia X, that's why I installed an Android 7.1.2 concept ROM and I'm using it again. Can't believe the screen is sharper and clearer in the sunset than the OP3T! Also, audio and video recorder is superior than Honor 8 and OP3T.
Even if I hate the fingerprint scanner location, I like my Xperia and I'm currently using it as my daily phone again, while I'm experimenting with the OP3T.
Too bad developers don't have too much interest on this nice piece of phone.
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Hi all, as a picky customer ive been following the z ultra forum as of a week now, i still havent ordered the phone yet but its the prime contender for me as the system specs are similar to the ones on my now broken LG G2 (r.i.p) it seems like a optimal replacement (and a bargain at the price it carries!!)
i have to say that ive never really had a sony handset before so im not that familiar with th UI, its perks and of course its bugs..
just needed you guys to put the final nail in the coffin on the deal for me as i find that its always best to get some info from "professional" users rather than "over the counter".
soooooo...
could you please tell me some of your praises for this device?? is the sony UI as restrictive as ive heard it to be? is the battery really that good?? decent accessories that you feel are worth getting??
cheers in advance!!!
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Hi all, as a picky customer ive been following the z ultra forum as of a week now, i still havent ordered the phone yet but its the prime contender for me as the system specs are similar to the ones on my now broken LG G2 (r.i.p) it seems like a optimal replacement (and a bargain at the price it carries!!)
i have to say that ive never really had a sony handset before so im not that familiar with th UI, its perks and of course its bugs..
just needed you guys to put the final nail in the coffin on the deal for me as i find that its always best to get some info from "professional" users rather than "over the counter".
soooooo...
could you please tell me some of your praises for this device?? is the sony UI as restrictive as ive heard it to be? is the battery really that good?? decent accessories that you feel are worth getting??
cheers in advance!!!
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Get the GPE version of the Z Ultra which I believe should be cheaper than the international version and runs stock Android.
However if you prefer to have the Sony suites of software then by all means go for the international version.
For the international version, you can flash a port of the GPE rom but you can't flash a port of stock rom onto a GPE set.
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If you want to run different ROMs - get the international version. The GPe 4.4.4 and Lollipop is already ported so they are available.
The problem with the GPe is that it uses a different partition scheme making it unable to use ROMs for the rest of the crowd (C6802/6806-nonGPe/6833). I would therefore recommend a C6806 or C6833 depending on what bands (LTE) you want and need.
Because of the superior selection of ROMs including GPe, I would simply go for a C6833 unless you are absolutely sure that everything else than the GPe ROM is of no interest.
With the "Sony Edition" (C6833 et al) you have great options: Sony ROMs, GPe or AOSP/CM based ones in different flavors. I think this selection is reason enough to go for the Xperia rather than the GPe.
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Get the GPE version of the Z Ultra which I believe should be cheaper than the international version and runs stock Android.
However if you prefer to have the Sony suites of software then by all means go for the international version.
For the international version, you can flash a port of the GPE rom but you can't flash a port of stock rom onto a GPE set.
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As they are in Italy I would not recommend the c6806 in either the Sony version or the GPe, get the c6833 (international). Sony's UI is very 'stock' android with very little bloat and packaged apps. As for battery life, expect 4 to 8 hours of screen on time depending on what you are doing. My GPe version on Lollipop has 5 days uptime, ~20% battery used and it says 13 days remaining on standby with the wifi on - no real use this week as I'm using my other phone.
thanks to all of you for your input.. its really apreciated!!!i think i'll go for the international variant as it seems i have a bit more to play with modding wise... now all i need to do is reach payday and order it!!!
zubeedubs said:
thanks to all of you for your input.. its really apreciated!!!i think i'll go for the international variant as it seems i have a bit more to play with modding wise... now all i need to do is reach payday and order it!!!
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Just looking at your sig, I think we could be the same boat.
I had 4 years all with HTC phones ( HD2, Ruby, One) and I recently made a first move to Sony phone, this Z Ultra C6833 and have no regret, even one bit. I personally think Sony phone has great battery, very responsive touchscreen, premium quality hardware built etc...which on par with HTC at least, or better.
Sony brand is somehow underestimated on smartphone markets. I didn't think about buying one, until I had one in my hands to try, and I was sold in 3 minutes. With the heavy dropped price on this Z Ultra these days, it's a steal, you'll be more than happy.
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Sony brand is somehow underestimated on smartphone markets.
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In Australasia, Asia and western Europe Sony has very good market penetration. Other than work phones I know more people that have an Xperia than have an ifone here in NZ
Here in italy its not as highly regarded as samsung or LG neither is HTC but i look at specs affidability and price over the usual consumer jargon.. im sure ill be pleased with this device!!!
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In Australasia, Asia and western Europe Sony has very good market penetration. Other than work phones I know more people that have an Xperia than have an ifone here in NZ
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I agree that Sony is still a big name of the game, what I mean was Sony deserves more than that. It could be one of top 3 players. Here in Canada Sony doesn't seem to do much comparing to other brands name. I wished I'd knew how good Sony phones was sooner. It's great to know that Sony phones are doing well in other countries.
I dont know if there is amazon in italy, but I bought mine for €260.- on amazon.
The alternative was the LG G2 for €300.-
If you really like to use big phones, go for it. I actually wanted a big phone and really like sony Z line design of phones, not to mention the extremely appealing price. Snapdragon 800 and a huge phone for €260? It was a no brainer for me.
Not to mention the advantage of having a GPe Version, portable lolipop roms. Just in case you miss it, this phone has an IPS display, unlike the Z and Z1 of sony.
There are complaints though, so for those, you can find enough information. Personally, I am very satisfied.
just as an update i ordered the C6833 variant just now at 239 euro (im still rubbing my hands like monty burns!!) thanks to all for your input!!!
i'll look forward to sharing the z ultra sub section with you guys!!
i enjoyed the xperia z ultra for the three months i had it.
it broke not too long ago.
i will see that the camera is horrid, and that i a now on a iphone 6 plus space gray 128gb and i do not think ill be looking back.
looking fwd to future ultra releases.
time will tell.
asadkhanduhh said:
i enjoyed the xperia z ultra for the three months i had it.
it broke not too long ago.
i will see that the camera is horrid, and that i a now on a iphone 6 plus space gray 128gb and i do not think ill be looking back.
looking fwd to future ultra releases.
time will tell.
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I don't think I would be able to enjoy an iPhone 6 Plus in comparison with my 240 DPI phablet mode Ultra with MultiWindow and floating apps.
Edit: It seems like Sony start to list the Ultra as being "discontinued" so I think every interested buyer should pull the trigger soon. It gives me an indication that they finally stopped the production and that the stock isn't going to be replenished anymore.
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I don't think I would be able to enjoy an iPhone 6 Plus in comparison with my 240 DPI phablet mode Ultra with MultiWindow and floating apps.
Edit: It seems like Sony start to list the Ultra as being "discontinued" so I think every interested buyer should pull the trigger soon. It gives me an indication that they finally stopped the production and that the stock isn't going to be replenished anymore.
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And getting ready for Z4 Ultra production. Yay!
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I haven't seen it for sale here in the US lately, as it was on sale here for Christmas ? .
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Expansys USA had the 6833 for $285 a couple of days ago.
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Expansys USA had the 6833 for $285 a couple of days ago.
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I have Nexus 5 as a primary one and looking at Ultra Z as my secondary phone in Inda we have a great deal which makes the phone at around 300 dollars
I want the existing users who have used it to suggest whether its worth buying or not
A definite buy
samir_a said:
I have Nexus 5 as a primary one and looking at Ultra Z as my secondary phone in Inda we have a great deal which makes the phone at around 300 dollars
I want the existing users who have used it to suggest whether its worth buying or not
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I have recently purchased Z Ultra after having a lot of comparison with other devices and I have no regret that I have bought this device. The price was a major factor.
The screen size is something It would take time for to adjust with(First time using a phone with such a form factor, all previous devices were around 4.5 inches)
The phone is butter smooth and no lag at all. Battery lasts around 2-2.5 days with moderate usage(Have stamina mode ON for the full time).
I will surely recommend to get a ZU.
Just got mine
As a long time android user, recent windows phone user, I am glad I got this device. Was on winphone with tether to nexus 7, and figured I would stop messing around and start carrying a tablet (phablet) with the phone. I have always wanted a Sony device but couldnt justify the price. With an unlocked device at around $300 I figured it was a no lose situation.
I love it. The screen is magnificent. And there really isnt too much bloatware from Sony. Such great build quality so far, Ive been using it for about 3 weeks. (early Christmas present to myself)
I would say go for it.
Its great to be back to Android full time, I like MS, I really liked Nokia...but it just didnt do it for me.
Thanks so that should be my next device, I have been waiting for a pass for One Plus, actualy was the very first one to get it when it was launched in India but didnt have the money to buy it now I tired waiting endlessly for it and have decided to go for ZU
JackD3ath said:
As a long time android user, recent windows phone user, I am glad I got this device. Was on winphone with tether to nexus 7, and figured I would stop messing around and start carrying a tablet (phablet) with the phone. I have always wanted a Sony device but couldnt justify the price. With an unlocked device at around $300 I figured it was a no lose situation.
I love it. The screen is magnificent. And there really isnt too much bloatware from Sony. Such great build quality so far, Ive been using it for about 3 weeks. (early Christmas present to myself)
I would say go for it.
Its great to be back to Android full time, I like MS, I really liked Nokia...but it just didnt do it for me.
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anyone else looked at this phone? seems like a decent replacement and not too small.
if not, what else are people moving onto?
given up on sony releasing
I'm just looking at nexus, blackberry if the rumors is true that they will move on to android, or the classic HTC.
HTC is probably the manufacturer you can't go wrong with. If you look at this part of the XDA forum..its filled with devs making roms and kernels.
I think s810 is just temporarily. Maybe next year there will be a new series of soc that won't overheat as this years release.
Its just the same as with the tegra 3. You could fry eggs on it. But HTC moved on and improved their devices. And I hope they will release another beast in the near future.
Huawei is enlarging their market on mobile devices but I think its to early to invest in one of those devices. I want there to be devs who makes roms so I don't have to rely only on the stock rom/firmware to work when something goes wrong. If that ever happens...who knows.
Samsung is a no go. They don't exist in my world. Last and only device I owned was the SII Exynos 4210. They make good electronics elsewhere but not mobile devices.
LG is also a no go. Only nexus. To much plastic, big LG logo and weird cheap looking software interface on stock rom. Reminds me of MIUI and Huawei.
SONY is moving from europe home to japan. Okay...weird. So then I just won't buy your stuff then. Bye..I will never buy a sony mobile device again.
When "I" am buying a device. I am only buying the flagships. Because I am looking for an investment that will last for many years and won't seem slow even after four years compared to newer devices. And also the general lifetime of the device. I want there to be devs here on the forum that I can rely on after device has reached the end-of-lifetime.
The Z ultra is a bit special. It has the same hardware specs as its brother Z1....so for performance I would still call this a kind of side show flagship despite the low spec camera.
i'#d be ok with sony if they would release an ultra 2 but it's too late now.
samsung, i liked until the whole locking SIMs to europe only or whatever around the time of the note 3 i tink, maybe 4.
moto x is brand new but there's some people on the board already. once it shows as rooted i'll jump on there. it's cheap as well actually. well cheaper than the ultra was when i bought it
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i'#d be ok with sony if they would release an ultra 2 but it's too late now.
samsung, i liked until the whole locking SIMs to europe only or whatever around the time of the note 3 i tink, maybe 4.
moto x is brand new but there's some people on the board already. once it shows as rooted i'll jump on there. it's cheap as well actually. well cheaper than the ultra was when i bought it
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I don't have any experience of motorola exept for the old classic pagers and radios. I've never seen a moto x in real life so I don't really have any opinion. Its offered at a good price yes! but yeah I really dunno. The only con I can see is the tiny battery at 2300mAh.
From what I can see its almost like some mix to a budget nexus device..almost stock rom and no bloat apps. :good:
Me myself is waiting to see what google has to offer. There is already a bunch of pics of the new nexus devices but I'm curiously waiting for the release event
3000 for the style no?
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3000 for the style no?
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oops ....I probably looked at the older model. You're right its 3000mAh!
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x_style-7229.php
Then it looks alright!
gave me a scare there for a sec
Guys,
I sent the Pixel C back. It died in 2 days. I was looking at the Sony Z4 tab along with the google one. Now I am looking back at it. Is that Sony Z4 tablet still a fantastic tablet? Issues? Just looking for overall comments before I look to find one to buy..I dont see them for sale much right now so I find it might be hard to get one anyway. But thought I would ask before I started looking..
Well I was in the same boat as you. I recently purchased the Nexus 9 lte tablet but wasn't happy with it due to the poor construction and some light bleed issues in the screen so I decided to look for this Z4 in Amazon and got it for $589.00 Free shipping and no Tax. Man best choice I've ever made! Really well build table, super thin, great speakers and water proof. Doesn't have many development support or Roms support but you can root it, install Xposed, debloat it and live with it.....oh and great battery life. Compatible with T-mobile and At&t LTE even it says 4G.
Yes is still a great option almost a year after of his released.
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My topic My Z4 Tablet Pros and Cons gives some of my and other's thoughts that are still relevant for the most part.
Also, the tablet flies on Marshmallow. I'm still super happy with my choice.
Does anyone think they might come out with a replacement for it anytime soon?
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Well I was in the same boat as you. I recently purchased the Nexus 9 lte tablet but wasn't happy with it due to the poor construction and some light bleed issues in the screen so I decided to look for this Z4 in Amazon and got it for $589.00 Free shipping and no Tax. Man best choice I've ever made! Really well build table, super thin, great speakers and water proof. Doesn't have many development support or Roms support but you can root it, install Xposed, debloat it and live with it.....oh and great battery life. Compatible with T-mobile and At&t LTE even it says 4G.
Yes is still a great option almost a year after of his released.
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The problem with android tablets is that they do not sell well. That causes OEMs to only release mid to low end tablets perpetuating the situation. It's a sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Instead of making their tablets better so that they can sell better, they make them worse so they sell even worse than before.
That lets (as a result) old tablets to still be excellent. For example my Note Tablet is the best pen-based tablet to this day (maybe ipad pro 9.7 will change that), portable, unlike the 12inch behemoths and awesome functionality coming out of the pen.
Similarly Xperia Z4 remains even after a year of its release one of the best if not *the* best tablet, period. It's the lightest 10 incher ever created by far, making it the only choice for heavy readers. After MarshMallow some of the best battery lives in the industry, excellent screen and the lack of Roms can be fixed by xposed (which pretty much has *all* the features of custom roms).
Still whilst my wife has one, I won't buy one for myself because I don't want to support Sony's ridiculous DRM-Warranty policy. If that doesn't bother you, I don't think you can go wrong with this tablet, I'm hard pressed to find anything better (maybe ipad pro if you don't mind jailbreaking).
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Excellent point.
Hi Guys. im thinking of buy Honor 5X and install CM13 on it.
what do you think ? is it the best choice for 200-250$ right now?
Faisal Alro8y said:
Hi Guys. im thinking of buy Honor 5X and install CM13 on it.
what do you think ? is it the best choice for 200-250$ right now?
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My point of view, is that Honor 5x is maybe the best choice under $200.
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My point of view, is that Honor 5x is maybe the best choice under $200.
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I think same as you and i didn't find any phone better than this even on 300$ range.
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I think same as you and i didn't find any phone better than this even on 300$ range.
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It worths the money, and it's not bad even with stock EMUI ( I am runing Android 6.0.1 on EMUI 4.0 )
This phone is for its price best there is nowadays. have it for 2 weeks and thinking of rooting it as well.
Imo, all the other phones in this price range suffer from two major flaws: 1) lack of manufacturer support post-release 2) lack of hobby developer support. Normally 2) is a direct result of 1). To Huawei's credit they allow full access to the device (bootloader unlock), they publish source code, and they engaged the developer community early on. Even further, they released a major OS update to the phone (Android 5 -> 6.0). As a result we now have a fairly active dev community including a newly minted official CM13 rom. Not many other $200 phones can say that.
If you say its a €500 euro phone with CM i would believe it.. it makes the phone so much faster you wont see a big diffrence between other phones! And the phone has a Premium look aswell. You wont notice its a mid end phone with a low end CPU.
I got this phone ($90USD) to replace my Xperia Z1 Compact and highly recommend it, even for retail $200. Best budget phone I've ever seen. My one gripe is the lack of NFC (I have tags stuck all over the place). However, it's a very well built, solid device with a surprisingly good screen and pretty good battery life. Everyone who's seen it has thought it looked like a $600 phone.
Awesome, awesome buy. Can't recommend it highly enough (assuming you put CM13 on it otherwise ignore every positive thing I've said because the stock interface is not great).
I thought I got a deal @$120! (Prime day).
But I agree, even @ $200 it's still a great value.
This it my current back up phone. I wouldn't pay more than $150 for it at this point, especially you can get the Amazon's Moto G4 for $150 and manually remove the ads.
I consider this the poor man's Nexus 6P. I think the phone is only worth it if you install Cyanogen on it, then it work just like the Nexus. I'm running the phone at 1366x768 resolution to improve the performance.
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I think same as you and i didn't find any phone better than this even on 300$ range.
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The Honor 5X, imho, is only worth getting if you flash CM13 on it. Otherwise, I wouldn't exactly consider it, especially with the new phones coming out now. You know, if you care about performance and not extra features (specifically the FPS), the LG G3 should be a better phone overall for not much more.
Also, do you not find the OnePlus 2 a better phone for $300? It's basically a souped up version of the Honor 5X, minus the expandable storage. There's also the LG G4 and Moto X Pure. All of the phones I've mentioned are objectively better than the Honor 5X for sub $300.
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This it my current back up phone. I wouldn't pay more than $150 for it at this point, especially you can get the Amazon's Moto G4 for $150 and manually remove the ads.
I consider this the poor man's Nexus 6P. I think the phone is only worth it if you install Cyanogen on it, then it work just like the Nexus. I'm running the phone at 1366x768 resolution to improve the performance.
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Agree 100% with this.
The honor 5x is OK for a backup device only because it just doesn't have the package to make it scream.
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As a former huge OnePlus fan, it's time to say goodbye. I never upgraded after the 2, the phones got more expensive and the upgraded features didn't justify the additional cost. I've been running my OnePlus 2 on DU 11.5 for months now, the ROM development just never got to where we all hoped it to be. I blame OnePlus for this not giving the developers the tools needed and really hindering their success opportunities.
A huge thanks to all the devs who have and still put work into keeping this phone development alive. Until we meet again.
As for where I'm going. I'm a 2 phone guy, one for work and one for personal. I'll be switching my personal over to the Samsung A5(2017) which is an incredible phone. And my corporate phone will be an iPhone 7...
Farewell. I'm personally not buying OnePlus again.
Oneplus is still using USB 2.0 in the OP5, over 2 years after the type C spec was published. There is still issues with jpeg compression in their phone app and it is not adjustable. Not releasing decent camera blobs for devs to use in their roms, etc. Oh yeah, premium pricing too. No thanks, I am done with them too.
My carrier has the LG G6 on sale right now, I think I'm gonna try that. I love the idea of a wide angle lens, and the Google camera app with HDR+ is confirmed working on it.
Murbert said:
Oneplus is still using USB 2.0 in the OP5, over 2 years after the type C spec was published. There is still issues with jpeg compression in their phone app and it is not adjustable. Not releasing decent camera blobs for devs to use in their roms, etc. Oh yeah, premium pricing too. No thanks, I am done with them too.
My carrier has the LG G6 on sale right now, I think I'm gonna try that. I love the idea of a wide angle lens, and the Google camera app with HDR+ is confirmed working on it.
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That phone doesn't have an led notification. Just saying.
utkarsh102 said:
That phone doesn't have an led notification. Just saying.
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The OP5 doesn't have LED notification?
Murbert said:
The OP5 doesn't have LED notification?
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Lg g6
Farewell!!
Yeah, I have enjoyed my one plus 2 also but the lack of decent support from the company has turned me off from them. Around the beginning or middle of next month I will be switching to something else. Farewell OP2
OP2 is still a decent phone even in 2017. It's all about finding the right rom for your needs. But yeah.. OP is a terrible company and have forgotten what made them great in the past.
Kirahvi said:
OP2 is still a decent phone even in 2017. It's all about finding the right rom for your needs. But yeah.. OP is a terrible company and have forgotten what made them great in the past.
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This sums up my thoughts too. I'm happy with my OP2 for now but when it comes time to change I won't buy another OP.
What if I told you that OnePlus provided the tools, but no one here ever made efficient use of them since Grarak left?
This device still has life and its still a solid phone. I just got it and my intention is to improve it.
CertifiedBlyndGuy said:
What if I told you that OnePlus provided the tools, but no one here ever made efficient use of them since Grarak left?
This device still has life and its still a solid phone. I just got it and my intention is to improve it.
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I would say yey new ROM !
There seems to be some good devs working on the phone still so would be surprised if they where all missing something.
I'l just dreaming about Google doing affordable Nexus devices again ... They would be so successful I'm sure. I first bought the 2 because the 6P was too expensive for me, but I still don't know about any other company which is "developer friendly" as OnePlus and Google. So yeah I'm stuck buying ****ty devices from a brand who doesn't car about their customers
Never settle. Yeah right.
Some good points here, yes, OP2 is still a good phone even in 2017. OnePlus turned it's back on it in pursuit for more ka-chiiiing, and 3, 3T or 5 haven't done much to make them sooo much better. But prices, oh my. Just got OnePlus spam in my mail, new OP5 model with more memory already! What? How much?
6GB RAM + 64GB Storage
499,00 €
8GB RAM + 128GB Storage
559,00 €
So I went to see my order from february 2016. I got 64GB one at the time when 32GB was available. Mine was 345€ minus 40€ for coupon. So 305€. Guess what OnePlus, I won't be settling.
Dac0908 said:
Never settle. Yeah right.
Some good points here, yes, OP2 is still a good phone even in 2017. OnePlus turned it's back on it in pursuit for more ka-chiiiing, and 3, 3T or 5 haven't done much to make them sooo much better. But prices, oh my. Just got OnePlus spam in my mail, new OP5 model with more memory already! What? How much?
6GB RAM + 64GB Storage
499,00 €
8GB RAM + 128GB Storage
559,00 €
So I went to see my order from february 2016. I got 64GB one at the time when 32GB was available. Mine was 345€ minus 40€ for coupon. So 305€. Guess what OnePlus, I won't be settling.
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OP2 is still a good phone even in 2017
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Come on, stop. OnePlus 2 was not a good phone, is not a good phone and would never be a good phone.
How can you say it's a good phone when you see User Experience is so bad with the Snapdragon 810, when there is so much thermal throttling every time you are doing something on the phone ? (don't talk about underclock / overclock / custom kernel / etc, those are elements which are flashed after by the user, and are not relevant for every users).
When you can see that you can buy a OnePlus 3T for 350E on Ebay (what I did, phone is in perfect condition), you should not even consider buying the OnePlus 2.
Never had those problems, but I am not using it for games. Phone works just fine - not saying it is (or ever was) a great phone, just a reasonably good one. Mostly let down by software and company which became greedy, and yes, while being the latest thing at the time Snapdragon 810 wasn't that good. Still it works for all basic needs, even after 2 years specs are almost impressive and user experience can be ok. *Not* a power-user experience.
Not comparing it to flagships because it never really was in that category, and you also should put it in it's price bracket, you bought used 3T for 350€ while OP2 when new was 300€. So there's that. After having it for a year and a half I am surely not considering buying another one or recommending someone to get OP2 or any OP actually. For that user experience and satisfaction should be on higher level.
Actually i will buy oneplus again. Why, because it's cheaper then the rivals much cheaper. And i really like my oneplus 2, spent 100 euros for it, really cheap and good phone.
Valneo said:
I'l just dreaming about Google doing affordable Nexus devices again ... They would be so successful I'm sure. I first bought the 2 because the 6P was too expensive for me, but I still don't know about any other company which is "developer friendly" as OnePlus and Google. So yeah I'm stuck buying ****ty devices from a brand who doesn't car about their customers
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Me too on that one...
Bought a Nexus 4 towards the end of them selling out for like £150 or something, was a brilliant phone even though I replaced god knows how many screens and back's on it but was a great great phone
Efforts will be put in getting Oreo up for the OP2, specifically halogenOS 8.0
Any help is appreciated, if you want to submit patches, do so via review.halogenos.org, otherwise, if you have a device tree, let us know.
CertifiedBlyndGuy said:
What if I told you that OnePlus provided the tools, but no one here ever made efficient use of them since Grarak left?
This device still has life and its still a solid phone. I just got it and my intention is to improve it.
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Hi CertifiedBlyndGuy, if I am not wrong then you're the AOSPA maintainer for OnePlus X. Are you building AOSPA for OnePlus 2 as well ?