Pixel XL not rooted, with Android nougat can be hacked? - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello,
I own a pixel xl with the latest nougat android operating system. My question is , is fully encrypted? if falls in wrong hands, like business competitors, authorities, or any one who can have high tech computers and software they can unlock it? unlocking it I mean to find our my password and open it and then have access to all data and photos.
please help

nikelecy said:
Hello,
I own a pixel xl with the latest nougat android operating system. My question is , is fully encrypted? if falls in wrong hands, like business competitors, authorities, or any one who can have high tech computers and software they can unlock it? unlocking it I mean to find our my password and open it and then have access to all data and photos.
please help
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If the phone is locked like with pin code and stuff like that, anyone can pass that by using a custom Recovery to delete some stuff from system or he can do it using adb.
If you mean an encrypted storage, then it would be hard, but like you said "high tech computers and softwares" they will possibly be able to do it.
And hackers these days don't need to have the phone to hack it, they are capable of hacking remotely!!
But don't worry, it's nothing to be worry about because the chance of this happening to you is too low, they probably target very high business men and political characters and people like that
anyway, i don't recommend keeping your sensitive information in the phone(bank accounts, IDs...), it's so dangerous like that.

MigoMujahid said:
If the phone is locked like with pin code and stuff like that, anyone can pass that by using a custom Recovery to delete some stuff from system or he can do it using adb.
If you mean an encrypted storage, then it would be hard, but like you said "high tech computers and softwares" they will possibly be able to do it.
And hackers these days don't need to have the phone to hack it, they are capable of hacking remotely!!
But don't worry, it's nothing to be worry about because the chance of this happening to you is too low, they probably target very high business men and political characters and people like that
anyway, i don't recommend keeping your sensitive information in the phone(bank accounts, IDs...), it's so dangerous like that.
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I have bank accounts , and cards and customer file lists etc...and many other things personally. the phone have lock screen and if fully encrypted. I have a password over 10 characters. high tech software and computers what is it ? what kind of computer?
now about hackers. lets say a competitor wants to know what kind of customers/ I have on my phone. he can hack it remotely and see?
I have an app blocking all permissions from all installed apps. how he can hack it? also I dont download games, or files on the laptop or pirated movies etc

nikelecy said:
I have bank accounts , and cards and customer file lists etc...and many other things personally. the phone have lock screen and if fully encrypted. I have a password over 10 characters. high tech software and computers what is it ? what kind of computer?
now about hackers. lets say a competitor wants to know what kind of customers/ I have on my phone. he can hack it remotely and see?
I have an app blocking all permissions from all installed apps. how he can hack it? also I dont download games, or files on the laptop or pirated movies etc
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About computers, i have no idea, but anyway, to hack remotely, it requires an infected file to get inside the phone, so you have to be safe, that infected file might simply capture the screen and show them what you're typing in the password field.
BUT as long as you don't download anything from anywhere you're safe.
Apps and games should be trusted and only be downloaded from play store.
If you're using a laptop, you should switch to Linux OS immediately, it's much much safer than Windows, especially these days ransom-ware's hackers encrypted many PCs and asked for money to get the encryption code.
Happened to people i know, but never happened to someone with Linux operating system.

MigoMujahid said:
About computers, i have no idea, but anyway, to hack remotely, it requires an infected file to get inside the phone, so you have to be safe, that infected file might simply capture the screen and show them what you're typing in the password field.
BUT as long as you don't download anything from anywhere you're safe.
Apps and games should be trusted and only be downloaded from play store.
If you're using a laptop, you should switch to Linux OS immediately, it's much much safer than Windows, especially these days ransom-ware's hackers encrypted many PCs and asked for money to get the encryption code.
Happened to people i know, but never happened to someone with Linux operating system.
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a person who hack phones told me that most android phones can be hacked easy and open them without erase the data. he told me that the icloud is impossible.
i will take the pixel to see if he can hack it. which I doubt.
one more question, if I buy a cheaper version phone and update to android nougat will be the same safe like pixel xl or not?

my computer is mac. i was sondering to switch to chromebook to tell you honest but I must confirm if can be hacked or not the chromebook

nikelecy said:
my computer is mac. i was sondering to switch to chromebook to tell you honest but I must confirm if can be hacked or not the chromebook
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MAC is great as well.
About the Nogut upgrade, I'm not sure that is only about the OS, native OS might be less secure than the company's OS, even if both OSs are Nogut, the Company add modifications and security to its OS that make it more secure.

MigoMujahid said:
MAC is great as well.
About the Nogut upgrade, I'm not sure that is only about the OS, native OS might be less secure than the company's OS, even if both OSs are Nogut, the Company add modifications and security to its OS that make it more secure.
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ok, buy you didn't answer me about the cheaper option of the android phone. lets say I want to give a phone to one of my manager with credit card info, clients etc, and doesnt have the preinstalled android nougat on it. this will be the same safe like the pixel? because to this employee I don't want to buy him pixel to handle the works tasks because i did it before with an iphone and she lost it.

nikelecy said:
ok, buy you didn't answer me about the cheaper option of the android phone. lets say I want to give a phone to one of my manager with credit card info, clients etc, and doesnt have the preinstalled android nougat on it. this will be the same safe like the pixel? because to this employee I don't want to buy him pixel to handle the works tasks because i did it before with an iphone and she lost it.
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No I did answer ?
About the Nogut upgrade, I'm not sure that is only about the OS, native OS might be less secure than the company's OS, even if both OSs are Nogut, the Company add modifications and security to its OS that make it more secure.
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First impression Xperia X10 mini pro+Questions

Hi everybody. First of all I did not know where to put this thread so I decided to stick it in General, I hope no one minds.
Well I just got my Xperia X10 mini pro yesterday, it came from Spain as I bought it of ebay and locked to Vodafone Spain.
As a long Windows Mobile user, I am used to have to flash a ROM in my native language (PT or SK) as soon as I get the phone, because it's not like in the old days with the Nokias where you would just go to the definitions and change the language to whatever you wanted.
But apparently android is like that too. When I turned on the phone for the first time, I got a lot of language options to choose from. I selected Portuguese and it the phone had all the options in that language. That is why I wanted to ask besides de branding it, what are the advantages of flashing a ROM from a different country?
And now for the hard questions.
I ran the phone without a SIM card in it, but I want to ask. Every time I turn on the phone I get the language options to choose, no matter how many times I choose Portuguese, it just fails to remember it. Is that normal (remember I am running the phone without a SIM card in it, just for testing)?
Is there a way to hard reset the phone? (this expression I got from WM, I hope it's the same for the Android) And if yes, how? (always good to know)
This is an observation.
The phone could not see my WIFI connection, because it was on channel 13, I had to change it to 9 to be sure he would see it and connect to it. After that everything worked . (I hope new radios are on the way)
Overall I did not have much time to test the phone, but I did some web surfing, I went on youtube and it was not bad, considering the screen size (it is even smaller than HTCs Diamond I), and the keyboard made the experience much better.
The phone feels so light, it almost looks like a toy. If you don't know anything about it, you can easily think it's one of those low cost messaging phones, with no actual OS (it's a metaphor, as I do not consider some firmwares that come on phones actual OS).
But I hope it's one of those gadgets that everyone can use
Thanks for bearing with me, and please if you know answer, if not you can always comment, hehe
Johev said:
But apparently android is like that too. When I turned on the phone for the first time, I got a lot of language options to choose from. I selected Portuguese and it the phone had all the options in that language. That is why I wanted to ask besides de branding it, what are the advantages of flashing a ROM from a different country?
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No advantage as far as I know, may be you will get a different set of bloatware depending on the region. but at the end, they all are crap and you will end up uninstalling (Or at least wanting to..) all of them.
Johev said:
I ran the phone without a SIM card in it, but I want to ask. Every time I turn on the phone I get the language options to choose, no matter how many times I choose Portuguese, it just fails to remember it. Is that normal (remember I am running the phone without a SIM card in it, just for testing)?
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I think it asks you just once for the language, as it stores the language preference in an XML file. try using it with a sim and see if it asks you again..
Johev said:
Is there a way to hard reset the phone? (this expression I got from WM, I hope it's the same for the Android) And if yes, how? (always good to know)
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you can factory reset the phone, I'm not aware of any method that allows you to hard reset your phone. Although you can reflash it with SEUS, that will reset your phone to orginal form.
Johev said:
The phone feels so light, it almost looks like a toy. If you don't know anything about it, you can easily think it's one of those low cost messaging phones, with no actual OS (it's a metaphor, as I do not consider some firmwares that come on phones actual OS).
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I beg to differ, Android is built on linux kernel, and you can use plenty of linux command on it, so I consider it as an actual operating system..
Besides, whats an actual OS?
The definition of an Os is - An operating system (OS) is an interface between hardware and user, which is responsible for the management and coordination of activities and the sharing of the resources of a device, that acts as a host for applications run on the machine.
According to that definition, android (or other mobile/handheld OS) falls well within actual OSes
li_boud said:
I beg to differ, Android is built on linux kernel, and you can use plenty of linux command on it, so I consider it as an actual operating system..
Besides, whats an actual OS?
The definition of an Os is - An operating system (OS) is an interface between hardware and user, which is responsible for the management and coordination of activities and the sharing of the resources of a device, that acts as a host for applications run on the machine.
According to that definition, android (or other mobile/handheld OS) falls well within actual OSes
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I think you misread or misunderstood what I have said. I agree with you about Android. That is why I have bought it, even though it's for my wife
I said, or at least the message that I wanted to spread was that if you do not know anything about the phone, you can easily and mistakenly confuse it with some low end keyboard phones (and those ones do not have an actual OS), that are marketed like messaging phones and do not measure up to this one.
I hope now I am a bit clearer.
Johev said:
I think you misread or misunderstood what I have said. I agree with you about Android. That is why I have bought it, even though it's for my wife
I said, or at least the message that I wanted to spread was that if you do not know anything about the phone, you can easily and mistakenly confuse it with some low end keyboard phones (and those ones do not have an actual OS), that are marketed like messaging phones and do not measure up to this one.
I hope now I am a bit clearer.
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Haha. Technically, all phones have an operating system, otherwise they're just a pretty, shiny paperweight. I think you mean smartphone
Yeah, I get that a lot, but I'm still proud of my phone!
Johev said:
I think you misread or misunderstood what I have said. I agree with you about Android. That is why I have bought it, even though it's for my wife
I said, or at least the message that I wanted to spread was that if you do not know anything about the phone, you can easily and mistakenly confuse it with some low end keyboard phones (and those ones do not have an actual OS), that are marketed like messaging phones and do not measure up to this one.
I hope now I am a bit clearer.
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My mistake, yeah I misread your statement.. Sorry about that.
Yes you can easily mistake it as a toy , almost like the samsung corby series ( google if you dont know the mobile ) , but anything that runs Android quite doesn't feel like a toy because it Linux , its powerful , smart and the best OS around..atleast for mobile
siddharthsai said:
Yes you can easily mistake it as a toy
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When I bought X10 mini pro, I showed it to my friend, who happen to be a Nokia X6 user (8 GB) and a big huge Symbian fan. At the first sight, he wasn't impressed, said I wasted the money since I could have bought a Nokia X6 for lesser price. He said its just another fancy toy from SE, just like Xperia pureness (X5).
The next day, I rooted the phone, removed all the bloatware, installed useful apps and widgets, and last but not the least, installed ADW launcher. Customized it, and then showed him again, and he was blown away!!
All of a sudden Symbian looks like an OS from last century to him. Now he wants an Android phone.
li_boud said:
When I bought X10 mini pro, I showed it to my friend, who happen to be a Nokia X6 user (8 GB) and a big huge Symbian fan. At the first sight, he wasn't impressed, said I wasted the money since I could have bought a Nokia X6 for lesser price. He said its just another fancy toy from SE, just like Xperia pureness (X5).
The next day, I rooted the phone, removed all the bloatware, installed useful apps and widgets, and last but not the least, installed ADW launcher. Customized it, and then showed him again, and he was blown away!!
All of a sudden Symbian looks like an OS from last century to him. Now he wants an Android phone.
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That is exactly what I want to do to this one. I still need to get some reading first, as I am not sure how to remove all the stuff that Vodafone puts in it.
I lack the knowledge of Android, so I am not sure if you go to android market and download the things for free, or if you get it here and just install it on the phone (I sure hope that Android uses some kind of a cab file, that will let me easily install things on it).
So far, from my reading I figured I need to change the SMS application and the answering call one (as I read many people were complaining about those), and I need to get the task killing application so that I can save some battery life.
I was not able to find an explorer on the phone, so I have no access to my SD card (which was strange for me, as WM has it easy).
For rooting I will probably use the one click root (I hope it works for this phone).
If you could point me to the right directions, with the names and a place I can get the 101 applications from, I would be grateful, as my wife needs an END product, and not something like:
"Hunny here is your nice phone, have fun rooting it and customizing it to your needs."
Thanks a lot
PS: I have been looking for some examples of what I wanted the phone to look like, and feel like and I have found this on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpEbYiTiFdw&feature=related
I like how it looks and feels, and the only thing I would probably not want there is the last left widget with the stock market. Other than that I think it's almost perfect for such a small device.
Let me know what you think

Security for Tablets

Is there any type of security for tablets out there? Right now is it impossible for a bad intentioned hacker to gain access to our device remotely. I live in a condo with several wifi networks around, including mine. Im currently running the Gtab with TNT lite 4.4 I've found Droid Wall but that appears to be geared to phones more than tablets.
SimonDroid said:
Is there any type of security for tablets out there? Right now is it impossible for a bad intentioned hacker to gain access to our device remotely. I live in a condo with several wifi networks around, including mine. Im currently running the Gtab with TNT lite 4.4 I've found Droid Wall but that appears to be geared to phones more than tablets.
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first of all, no matter what, dont connect to an open network. if your access point is not password protected, set one up immediately. a hacker would first have to crack your wireless before he could even think about touching anything connected to it.
as for tablet security, this is a topic that you will find debated on several sites but i'll give you my understanding. android security is pretty darn good, especially after 2.1. the android OS natively runs a sandbox system that only grants permissions that are explicitly requested by an app at installation, so as long as you are only installing trusted apps from the market, you dont need to worry about shady apps exploiting your system.
and as far as a bad intentioned hacker, like i said, if your network is password protected, you dont have too much to worry about. he would first have to crack your wireless which can take days, and then figure out which version of android you are running, possibly which browser you are running, and then come up with some sort of exploit to gain access to your tablet. it would take a lot of time and it probably wouldn't be worth it, unless said hacker is DYING to see your angry birds high scores or something like that.
TL;DR android security is pretty good. stay off of public, unprotected wi-fi and you pretty much have nothing to worry about.
SimonDroid said:
Is there any type of security for tablets out there? Right now is it impossible for a bad intentioned hacker to gain access to our device remotely. I live in a condo with several wifi networks around, including mine. Im currently running the Gtab with TNT lite 4.4 I've found Droid Wall but that appears to be geared to phones more than tablets.
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If you are new to GTab, you might have missed this when it was hot. Check this Thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=977756
Rumbleweed said:
If you are new to GTab, you might have missed this when it was hot. Check this Thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=977756
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Yes I just got my Gtab some days ago. My first android device after studying the alternatives out there. I'm running Tnt lite 4.4 so I assume it already has the patch installed for this malware since it says it is pre gingerbread.

anti-virus worth it?

Sorry to post a new thread about this but I was searching the atrix forums and could not find anything on it. Any thoughts on anti virus apps such as lookout security a necessity? Thanks.
stevehkim said:
Sorry to post a new thread about this but I was searching the atrix forums and could not find anything on it. Any thoughts on anti virus apps such as lookout security a necessity? Thanks.
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I don't think it's worth it. I've only heard of really weak Android "viruses". I hardly see the point of antivirus for Android. As long as you stay on the Market and don't download anything that seems extremely weird I think you're ok.
BravoMotorola said:
I don't think it's worth it. I've only heard of really weak Android "viruses". I hardly see the point of antivirus for Android. As long as you stay on the Market and don't download anything that seems extremely weird I think you're ok.
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+1
seems like all it would do is slow your phone down and/or decrease battery life
although i should say I don't even have antivirus on my pc
I have Lookout and just have it running in the background and doing weekly scans and backups. You don't have to see it, and it doesn't even eat battery power.
For me, better to have it than not. Just in case.
Not worth it if your a flashaholic
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I was at the Android BBQ Cyanogen panel and someone asked this. Straight from the Master's mouth, unless you are going crazy downloading unknown sources from China you do not need it, it's ineffective.
2leaponover1 said:
I was at the Android BBQ Cyanogen panel and someone asked this. Straight from the Master's mouth, unless you are going crazy downloading unknown sources from China you do not need it, it's ineffective.
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Honestly, I think this is a bs statement for anyone to make. Any time you connect any device to a computer you risk a virus migrating/transferring/infecting that device. Any time you download anything from the internet, no matter the source, you risk a virus. Just because it came from the Market does not mean it's clean. Similarily, just because you flash a new ROM doesn't mean any virus you had will be gone. Wiping is no guarantee unless you completely wipe everything, which nobody does.
Many years ago people did not care about, or even know about, anti-virus on their home computers.......yup, big mistake! System crashes, personal information lost, important files lost/corrupted, remote management, identity theft, etc.
There is nothing wrong with employing anti-virus on your cellphone. It's an internet/wireless/network connected device, and should be treated just like any other such device.
Personally I use Lookout Premium. I have found it works well for me, and uses next to no resources. I can't speculate on other anti-virus for phones such as AVG as I haven't used them. The best offence is a good defence.
CaelanT said:
Honestly, I think this is a bs statement for anyone to make. Any time you connect any device to a computer you risk a virus migrating/transferring/infecting that device. Any time you download anything from the internet, no matter the source, you risk a virus. Just because it came from the Market does not mean it's clean. Similarily, just because you flash a new ROM doesn't mean any virus you had will be gone. Wiping is no guarantee unless you completely wipe everything, which nobody does.
Many years ago people did not care about, or even know about, anti-virus on their home computers.......yup, big mistake! System crashes, personal information lost, important files lost/corrupted, remote management, identity theft, etc.
There is nothing wrong with employing anti-virus on your cellphone. It's an internet/wireless/network connected device, and should be treated just like any other such device.
Personally I use Lookout Premium. I have found it works well for me, and uses next to no resources. I can't speculate on other anti-virus for phones such as AVG as I haven't used them. The best offence is a good defence.
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Yup Caleant is right. As a matter of fact they just recently(maybe a few months back) took down like 20 or more apps from the regular android market and some were quite popular too for being infected. I believe they were all infected with the dream virus or something like that. So that other statement that guy said about how you only need it if your installing from unknown sources or apps from china is complete BS!
android is based on linux do i have to remember you? ....
just be cautious and everything will be alright
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Ov3rd0se said:
android is based on linux do i have to remember you? ....
just be cautious and everything will be alright
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And then the same as any Linux kernel it will be succeptible to rootkits and various other security issues - how often is the Android kernel patched? (go have a look over at exploit-db...)...also there is java on top of that Linux kernel...therefore....
Another vote for using it here - I am running Bit Defender - its uses little to no resources and no battery and it is definitely better to be safe than make assumptions
+1 for Lookout, it actually has alerted me of malicious software and aborted the installation once before. Here is a good and recent example of just how easy it is for malicious apps to be downloaded from even the Android Market.
I did not use antivirus for my other phones as they either had very slow processor (backflip) or very little ram (x10) and they did slow the phone down. However, with the atrix, I do have a antivirus (lookout) and find it useful. I mean, come on, what do you lose? Also, i tried avg once, it flagged superuser as an unsafe app and told me usb debugging is a unsafe option. It was SO annoying i uninstalled it.
Its good but personally I don't use it.All my files go to my pc get scanned and then put to my phone.I backup almost everyday for good measure and I constantly switch between ROMs for fun so for me its not really a big deal,but for others it might be very important
I use kaspersky mobile security and wouldn't feel comfortable just installing apk's without some form of check.
sk8trix said:
Its good but personally I don't use it.All my files go to my pc get scanned and then put to my phone.I backup almost everyday for good measure and I constantly switch between ROMs for fun so for me its not really a big deal,but for others it might be very important
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All downloads and all data go through your PC first? This would have to include Market downloads, web pages you navigate to through your phone browser, etc. It's impossible to run all files through your PC first.
CaelanT said:
All downloads and all data go through your PC first? This would have to include Market downloads, web pages you navigate to through your phone browser, etc. It's impossible to run all files through your PC first.
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That's what I thought too when I read his post. Just smile and nod lol.
Virus and CM7
I'm running CM7 on my Atrix. All was going very well until recently when it stopped recognizing the car dock. I am not running an antivirus yet (which will change given the above posts, regardless of the answer to this question.
Could a virus have been the culprit?
No sir, I seriously doubt that.
I use androidlost
CaelanT said:
All downloads and all data go through your PC first? This would have to include Market downloads, web pages you navigate to through your phone browser, etc. It's impossible to run all files through your PC first.
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What I meant was about apps outside of the market and most things including apps I get outside the market.....things even from this site I download to my pc and scan.as far as internet well you're on your own but unless your on some porn site or torrent or creepy forums there isn't much chance to be hacked.I'm not in anyways saying that u shuldnt use lookout or apps like it but how many people can you name or even think of the top of your head that got hacked on their android device.....not a whole lot......

Security App - Best, Necessary?

I heard about Lookout for checking CIQ on phone and saw that they have a security app. Also saw something by NetQin. I used to use BitDefender on my pc but then it got buggy.
My first smartphone and I'm paranoid. So do most people use a security/anti-virus app on their phone? If so, which do you suggest?
I've had more than my fair share of smart phones. This is my 4th one this year. As for me, I've never used a virus scanner on my phone or any of my computers. I'm just smart and make sure I don't download things I don't know what they are.
I've been using the free version of Lookout for about 3 years through an OG Droid, Droid 2, Droid X2, and now my Rezound. I've never had any issues with it. It seems to work the way it's supposed to.
Not really necessary. But it's up to you really, personal preference in this matter.
Yeah, I have read that Android doesn't propagate viruses, but seems like there would still be a chance of getting malware or spyware.
Also, does anyone worry about intrusions via bluetooth or something from another person even without using a trojan? I used to read about that ability years ago, where someone could go through your files and grab what they wanted via bluetooth. Is there a way for anyone to do that with our phones?
Heavily researched this the other day. Not sure if you're worried more about the malware side of life, or the potential of theft - but if you're looking to ID a perp for trying to gank your phone, nothing comes close to the feature set in Cerberus.
Android market link: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.lsdroid.cerberus&hl=en
Android Police review: http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...s-a-clear-winner-in-keeping-your-device-safe/
Hadn't even heard of it before last week, but after 10 minutes of messing w/ it, I was sold. Better than anything else in the market by far in terms of what it does & I can confirm everything is working on my Rezound. Also, it's only $3 and change. Can't beat that
Also, for reference, I previously used Prey, but I like this much better.
(Favorite feature is the front cam snaps that get sent to my email, each time my pattern lock is incorrectly swiped)
feralicious said:
Yeah, I have read that Android doesn't propagate viruses, but seems like there would still be a chance of getting malware or spyware.
Also, does anyone worry about intrusions via bluetooth or something from another person even without using a trojan? I used to read about that ability years ago, where someone could go through your files and grab what they wanted via bluetooth. Is there a way for anyone to do that with our phones?
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I wrote a paper on Bluetooth for school. Those attacks were fixed with Bluetooth 2.0
platinumthomas said:
I wrote a paper on Bluetooth for school. Those attacks were fixed with Bluetooth 2.0
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Hm... how does it do that, in layman's terms?
I'm paranoid a bit since our phones are now pretty much like laptops. I have my laptop on lockdown though and this is my first smartphone so I want to be sure I'm not leaving a security hole open for some nefarious character to take advantage of.
Well, I know I already mentioned Lookout, but I'm going to mention them again. These guys seem to know what they're doing. I mean, as this article states, Google trusts them enough to tell them what to remove from the market, so I would assume that they're pretty legit. Again, I've never had an issue with anything, and I've been running Lookout for a while.
The new avast!, which bought and incorporated Theft Aware, seems like the best option on the market to me....It's what I use.
dustintheweb said:
(Favorite feature is the front cam snaps that get sent to my email, each time my pattern lock is incorrectly swiped)
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Nice feature, I'm going to check it out just for that.
Check out Zoner
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I use lookout, been using it for over two years now on 4 android phones.
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Help to make the right choice

Hi guys.
First of all, I have searched the forum, and also used google, but most of info is not fresh and is not really complete. So please excuse me in advance if I"m asking a question that is partially asked before.
And Please before you reply, I ask you even, I beg you please only reply if you have a constructive informative things to say. Please dont come with sarcasm etc... This is a very serious thing for me.
My project :
Have a android phone for only 1 APP and with Only VPN / TOR connection. So Basicly imagine a android phone that has only 1 app. When that app is in use, communicating it comunicates true vpn maybe TOR.
This phone will not be used for anything alse. Only 1 APP. The APP is a VOIP app, so it will make calls true a external server. The internet will be on the simcard, simcard will be used wich has no Telephony services but only internet services on it. So it must be really basic, not to cheap not to expensive. No other apps will be used. Actually if possible all apps will be removed. and will be locked down, so you can only start, unlock, start app call / recieve calls. turn of.
Now, the Questions
1. What is the most Secure Android ROM, that would work on most / many android phones.
1.1. I want to LOCK the rom / android completely after install and setup settings, sothat nobody can install anything anymore.
1.2. The rom must be light, sothat it's fast and also not to heavy on the battery.
1.3. Posibilities to add extra options like self distruct if 3 times wrong unlock code is entered, like Iphone.
2. What phone would you recommend to do this job, Please keep in mind, it should be not to small, sothat it's nice to use. sits nice in the hand of a grownup person.
Nobody ?
So... No reply at all ))
I did a little research, found out i can strip down the firmware, just build it / rebuild it from source or just make some edition, I'd still like to hear / read some advice about wich phone model to take.
If you are gonna build from source then your best option is a nexus. Other wise you will end up having issues with device trees and kernel source.
As for locking it down well that's another matter. As long as they could get access to the device there is more way to stop them completely.
zelendel said:
If you are gonna build from source then your best option is a nexus. Other wise you will end up having issues with device trees and kernel source.
As for locking it down well that's another matter. As long as they could get access to the device there is more way to stop them completely.
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Thanks for your reply / info.
for the lockdown, it's more like anti kids lockdown, sothat users cannot install just what ever they want. But I think it will be more advanced than that.
I'm planing to make a clean, light, firmwar that will :
1. have only 2 ways of comunicated. 1. Secure VOIP 2. secure chat system like tox or something.
2. will comunicate only true VPN or TOR
3. Will be locked down after initial setup. meanin will not be possible to install anything, just set options like wifi etc... no apstores.
4. Will have self distruct software, that counts how many times wron pin / screen unlock is done, if more then 2-3 will completely wipe itself to empty device.
5. by default camera, gps, proximity, will be absent, so will be removed in ROM, so will be really not functional.
sofar
tomorrow will search for a nexus.
thanks for your advice again.
zelendel said:
If you are gonna build from source then your best option is a nexus. Other wise you will end up having issues with device trees and kernel source.
As for locking it down well that's another matter. As long as they could get access to the device there is more way to stop them completely.
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Nexus, like any nexus ? cause there are many, lg nexus, samsung nexus, etc...
turalo said:
Nexus, like any nexus ? cause there are many, lg nexus, samsung nexus, etc...
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Well that depends on where you want to start. You can get an older nexus where all the code is pretty much there for stuff and learn that way. Or get a newer one where things are still being changed around. Let me give you one warning. With ever yearly android release you pretty much have to rebate everything you did and start from square one.
zelendel said:
Well that depends on where you want to start. You can get an older nexus where all the code is pretty much there for stuff and learn that way. Or get a newer one where things are still being changed around. Let me give you one warning. With ever yearly android release you pretty much have to rebate everything you did and start from square one.
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Thanks for all advise, info.
I have done first tests, went with basic samsungs. s4 mini, have installed edited cyanogen, all tests went well, now testing self distruct mechanism.

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