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I'm in a dilemma between Moto G4 Plus and Xiaomi Redmi Note 4.
In every single detail I like Redmi Note 4 better except for camera and Software. The camera difference is not an issue for me but software is.
1. Moto provides stock android which I love very much due to its simplicity and stability.
2. I find MIUI annoying.
So, I'd like to know if there is a stable ROM that can give me stock android experience on Redmi Note 4. If there is such a ROM,
1. How stable is it? Can it be at par with the software experience stock android on Moto G provides?
2. Performance of the ROM compared to factory
dev_ant said:
I'm in a dilemma between Moto G4 Plus and Xiaomi Redmi Note 4.
In every single detail I like Redmi Note 4 better except for camera and Software. The camera difference is not an issue for me but software is.
1. Moto provides stock android which I love very much due to its simplicity and stability.
2. I find MIUI annoying.
So, I'd like to know if there is a stable ROM that can give me stock android experience on Redmi Note 4. If there is such a ROM,
1. How stable is it? Can it be at par with the software experience stock android on Moto G provides?
2. Performance of the ROM compared to factory
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Try Lineage AEX, RR, AICP (last three are official)
minor bugs are there: yello flash light, slow motion camera not working but lightweight faster AOSP stick rom.
I have not tried yet Slim (official) also better!
Every custom ROM will give you bugs and a decrease in camera quality.
You can try a debloated version of MIUI from xiaomi.eu with a custom launcher like Nova.
Here is how it looks my phone
I had the same reservation about switching to a Miui phone.
However, I run stock Miui rom with Nova Launcher and could not be happier.
Stock rom provides stability and no deterioration to camera, Nova provides stock Android experience.
My personal experience suggests that no custom built rom is bug free. Try to use the rom provided originally by the manufacturer and modify it to suit to your needs by changing the launcher. I toggle between Google and Nova launcher as per mood. However you need to suitable turn on the auto wake functions for some widgets like the digital clock (need to download separately), notification badges etc.
Yes I do wish that Xiaomi should give the option of choosing either a stock android rom or its Miui rom. My personal preference would be the simple, but effective stock android rom (I base this on the experience of Moto g3 I had previously. In retrospect I am amazed the way motorola has integrated the software and hardware so effectively. Despite of high ram and octa core processor, I am disappointed by the software + hardware performance of the note 4, even my wife complains about the software and speed of the MI Max she has after shifting from the Moto X Play)
Problem like yellow flash, slow motion DOES exist on MIUI rom...
The latest stable MIUI rom is very problematic for so many users, many find gps sucks, battery sucks, device lags, etc after the update...
I never got this issue when using AospExt, LOS or PA.
for me... MIUI sucks, period...
I would not buy xiaomi device if there is no option for other ROMs like LOS, RR, PA, etc...
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Every custom ROM will give you bugs and a decrease in camera quality.
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bugs? seriously ? I have like 0 bug with LOS
And try using google camera instead
i have to agree, tried a lot of roms, most of them have mobile data problems to me (not working) now im on miui 9 and erased a lot of crap, and it works great, battery is amazing, im getting every notification so no problem there, and camera is working fast. in custom roms camera is terrible to be honest,
dev_ant said:
I'm in a dilemma between Moto G4 Plus and Xiaomi Redmi Note 4.
In every single detail I like Redmi Note 4 better except for camera and Software. The camera difference is not an issue for me but software is.
1. Moto provides stock android which I love very much due to its simplicity and stability.
2. I find MIUI annoying.
So, I'd like to know if there is a stable ROM that can give me stock android experience on Redmi Note 4. If there is such a ROM,
1. How stable is it? Can it be at par with the software experience stock android on Moto G provides?
2. Performance of the ROM compared to factory
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I used Moto G before and really love vanilla android provided by Motorola. The moment I got my RN4, I try to adapt with MIUI. However, I'm getting a lot of gps issues while using it. I end up switching to Slim rom which give me almost the same experience that I had with my old Moto G.
Plus note, no gps issue when using Slim rom. Working as expected.
The advantage of redmi note4x is that it's a good battery. The battery capacity of 4000 mah is very large. And the qualcomm snapdragon 625 processor is a 14nm process, so the heating life is really strong. But there are drawbacks: the camera and the level of photography are not mediocre; Screen quality is general. Using long eyes can make you feel uncomfortable. I don't know if that's the case, but at least my phone is. Finally, the MIUI system is very bloated. If you like native android, I suggest you buy the MOTO. But note4x is a cost-effective option
schlagg said:
bugs? seriously ? I have like 0 bug with LOS
And try using google camera instead
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So you are on a rom which doesn't have yellow flash problem?
Ekril said:
So you are on a rom which doesn't have yellow flash problem?
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Its not a bug for me.
I'm not focused on this. Photos and videos quality are sufficient for an occasional use.
gedggd said:
i have to agree, tried a lot of roms, most of them have mobile data problems to me (not working) now im on miui 9 and erased a lot of crap, and it works great, battery is amazing, im getting every notification so no problem there, and camera is working fast. in custom roms camera is terrible to be honest,
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How do you get every notifications?
I clean flashed the last global rom and I have feeling, that I still dont get all the notifications instantly.
Whatsapp/Messenger works, but apps like eBay, forums etc. seem not to work every time.
Have you made any changes to apps, or you made some battery saver modifications or something?
chorba69 said:
How do you get every notifications?
I clean flashed the last global rom and I have feeling, that I still dont get all the notifications instantly.
Whatsapp/Messenger works, but apps like eBay, forums etc. seem not to work every time.
Have you made any changes to apps, or you made some battery saver modifications or something?
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well i wiped everything, then flashed miui9 latest beta, rooted, installed titaniub backup, deleted all the miui crap, like mi cloud, mi account, and so on.. and im using it right now, i dont feel like im missing notifications (im not using ebay app or forum apps...), battery is great, im happy
Hello again everyone,
Interesting conversation I want to have with users here; which Android skin do you like most and why?
Obviously AOSP != what Pixels run.
What if a future Honor device ran Android One/Go? Would that be enough to convince you buy one? What if Kirin hardware was still used even with Android One?
What do you like and not like about EMUI?
Really want to get your all's input and feedback.
AOSP has always been my favorite, primarily because it adheres to Google's design standards, and theoretically allows OEMs to deliver faster updates overall.
Skins like EMUI deter from Material Design a fair bit, and it makes it fragments the experience in that sense. It looks too much like iOS, but honestly, I don't mind it too much, because the features it brings with it are actually useful rather than bloat (I'm not saying EMUI is exempt from bloat). Overall, it's a good stock experience, but not something I'd run.
AOSP is also very flexible with projects here on XDA, and it allows for the ease of development and synchrony.
The code is generally cleaner than the additional stuff that OEMs add, and there usually a performance benefit. Skins usually overdo it (I'm looking at you Amazon), and it detracts from what we come to expect from Android itself.
And finally, I'm not sure why, but devices that ship with AOSP-esque ROMs generally feel more premium. Probably because there is less useless garbage.
Those are just my quick thoughts. I hope Honor puts the feedback to use
EMUI tries too much to be like ios. EMUI doesnt incorporate Googles material design. EMUI needs to follow Android design guidelines and features. The share menu looks and functuion like IOS why? We need a better lqauncher. the icons are ios inspired.
Miui und EMUI feel like the interpretation of a 13 years old fan boy of how his phone should work and look like. While AOSP looks much more mature in total feel.
I switched from a phone running Near-AOSP Android 7.1 and now 8.0 to my first EMUI 8.0 device.
EMUI 8.0 on my Mate 10 Pro is a flaming piece of sh*t.
I don't even care about the design. Yeah, it looks like iOS puked all over Android KitKat after a drunken stupor - but that can mostly be remedied with a custom launcher and/or an EMUI theme.
I don't even care that the settings menu feels like it was organized by someone trying to hide their porn collection inside a labyrinth of subfolders back in the 90s. It's stupid, but you get used to it.
I *do* care about the insane amount of things that Huawei/Honor actively broke, removed or replaced with ****tier versions of the same thing.
That things that don't work is staggering:
* Many widgets don't reliably update, they simply die after a while and never show new information. Even Google Widgets are affected, like Google News & Weather.
* Notifications are unreliable. If you don't use an app for a while, don't expect to get any more notifications until you open it - even after fully whitelisting it from everything. I missed several important Facebook Messenger messages because of this. And if Do Not Disturb is enabled, notifications aren't just silenced, they frequently simply disappear into nowhere.
* Some apps simply can never show notifications when in the background on EMUI for more than half an hour, no whitelisting possible.
* Forget about running apps in the background long term, they are frozen eventually, regardless of your settings. And, no, not via Android Doze but via Huawei's own battery management that has all the surgical precision of a sledgehammer.
* You can't disable many system sounds. They also ignore the do not disturb setting and play full volume regardless (like the battery charging sound).
* You can't enable "Do not disturb" for x minutes/hours - that was removed for no reason at all.
* The AOD is essentially useless, it only supports Huawei's own apps, nothing else.
* Lock screen messages can't be expanded or interacted with - the arrow to expand them exists but doesn't do anything.
* You can't even set WiFi connections as metered, the feature was removed - you can't limit background traffic for those connections in EMUI. Forget about ever using a mobile or otherwise metered hotspot with EMUI.
* AdGuard doesn't survive a network connectivity change. When it reconfigures the VPN connection the battery manager kills it, regardless of whitelisting. The only workaround is to never let it reconfigure.
* You can't configure your billing cycle. If it doesn't start at the beginning of the month you are out of luck. One of the many, many native Android features that were simply removed in EMUI with a sledgehammer for no sane reason at all.
* You can't reliably set default apps or even launchers, EMUI loves to reset them back to default randomly. So you launcher of choice decided to roll out an update on the Play Store? Time to enjoy Huawei's launcher again from now on ...
* The same goes for many settings, even in Huawei's own apps - many settings just don't "stick" and are reset after some hours or weeks.
* By default the battery management eventually even stops Chrome from running in the background. Which is the sole WebView provider - breaking just about anything that uses WebView. Insane. At least here the manual whitelisting works as a workaround.
* The camera shortcut was moved from the power button to the volume button for no sane reason, which means it doesn't work when you listen to anything or when the screen is on.
* It has a ludicrous amount of Bluetooth compatibility issues. You though Bluetooth on Stock Android could be iffy? It's compatibility heaven compared to what Huawei somehow managed to do with it.
* Huawei removed Google's Smart Lock and replaced it with ... Huawei Smart Unlock, which currently *only* supports Bluetooth unlock, nothing else, and naturally doesn't even do that reliably.
* You enjoy "OK Google"? Well, Huawei has "OK Emy" as the only assistant capable of waking the phone. It literally has exactly two features (find phone, make a call) and the only semi useful one does not work - at all.
It's the dumbest, most infuriatingly, most idiotic take on Android I have ever experienced.
I still *love* the hardware of the Mate 10 Pro. It's near perfect for me: It's beautiful, fast, great display, amazing build quality and the best battery life and fastest fingerprint sensor of any current flagship.
But I hate EMUI's guts after a couple of months with it. And I really, really tried to like it.
Seriously, why anyone would prefer EMUI over AOSP, or pretty much any other Android skin, is beyond me.
I just miss an Android experience that just works and that I don't feel like I'm constantly fighting. I still love Huawei's hardware, but I'll avoid future EMUI phones like the plague.
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Seriously, why anyone would prefer EMUI over AOSP, or pretty much any other Android skin, is beyond me.
I just miss an Android experience that just works and that I don't feel like I'm constantly fighting. I still love Huawei's hardware, but I'll avoid future EMUI phones like the plague.
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Just trying to understand users. Some like features from skins that AOSP doesnt offer.
Really appreciate what was stated. I too wish notifications on the lockscreen were improved. Hope to continue the trend to make improvements with EMUI and listen to our users
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Just trying to understand users. Some like features from skins that AOSP doesnt offer.
Really appreciate what was stated. I too wish notifications on the lockscreen were improved. Hope to continue the trend to make improvements with EMUI and listen to our users
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Please try a stable custom rom like Omni ROM and you will understand that most people here on XDA just want good developer support. AOSP doesn't have features but it is designed well and less in your face like EMUI. And those that are here on XDA probably root it and install a custom ROM that is based on AOSP with added features without the cartoon like UI that some custom skins like Samsung, Huawei, LG provide.
syl0n said:
Please try a stable custom rom like Omni ROM and you will understand that most people here on XDA just want good developer support. AOSP doesn't have features but it is designed well and less in your face like EMUI. And those that are here on XDA probably root it and install a custom ROM that is based on AOSP with added features without the cartoon like UI that some custom skins like Samsung, Huawei, LG provide.
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I've personally used custom ROMs through my android history of close to 2 dozen devices. AICP, DU, AOSPA, LOS, Slim, RR, etc etc. been apart of the XDA community for close to 8 years.
I really want to support the dev community and have a passion for it. :good:
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Which Android skin do you like most and why?
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I prefer pure Android itself over OEM's skins. Why? It is not only the cleanest, but it's also way smoother and i have also nothing to complain about AOSP. One example (of many out there) could be Huawei Nova which I've owned. It was way smoother with LOS 14 and also had much better battery backup. It might be featureless compared to OEM's skins, but how many of us actually use all the features implemented by OEM? I personally don't.
Sometimes simplicity is the best.
What if a future Honor device ran Android One/Go? Would that be enough to convince you buy one?
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Only Honor ones? Anyway, yes, that'd convince me. I don't care about Android One program, but I do care about AOSP.
What if Kirin hardware was still used even with Android One?
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No, then I wouldn't consider it. The reason I've bought Huawei Nova was because it had Qualcomm, otherwise I wouldn't have bought any Huawei. Qualcomm is popular and easier to develop for (correct me if I'm wrong). IMO, this is one of the reasons why XDA forums for Huawei are dead.
What do you like and not like about EMUI?
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Things I like:
Lockscreen - I really like how the lockscreen looks, especially with a cool wallpaper. I'd choose this lockscreen anytime over AOSP's one as I like that's not "blurred", that I can see the wallpaper properly on a good screen. It just looks gorgeous. The widgets which can be accessed from the bottom is also nice. Would've been nicer if we could also choose own actions for that widgets.
White-blue themed - I love this man. I've always wanted this kind of theme.
Things I don't like:
Phone Manager - Man, this is just bull****. Apps are getting killed even after disabling the options in Phone Manager to not kill them. It's the most annoying thing. It's known that task killers are harmful for Android, yet that's what you're doing. Just let Android handle the things how it was meant to, it doesn't need task killers or some kind of RAM management. I also don't like the fact that battery stats is implemented in that and after removing Phone Manager, you no longer can see the battery stats, and if I remember properly, the option to block calls is also gone. That virus scanner is another ****. I mean, come on... It would have been so much better without this ****, Phone Manager. It's not only a bloatware, but it's also harmful.
Kernel - it's a mess. Just few examples: root scanner and some other protection which I don't remember right now (was related to rw system if I'm not mistaken), some configs in defconfig with "HISI" in the name are enabled on Nova which has Qualcomm. On top of this, you're providing the kernel as tarball making it hard to remove your **** for someone which is not pro, like me. I'm not the only one who said that your kernels are a mess.
Dark notification panel - Why black? Just why? Why didn't you make it white-blue themed just like the rest of the skin? It would have looked so much better. Dark one just doesn't make sense IMO when EMUI is white-themed. I'd have understood if EMUI was black themed, but it isn't.
Bloatware - removable, but still.
Privacy - I care so much about this and I doubt about it on EMUI, no matter what you would say. I haven't checked, but I'm sure that's possible to check out if there's something going on in the background. It's not like you would be the only OEM doing it though.
Screen Recorder - it's laggy and you better wouldn't have added it. I've recorded my Nova's screen when I've been on AOSPExtended even when gaming and there's no lag when I'm watching the recorded video. It was same on LOS, but I think it was slightly better on AEX. I haven't tried to record screen through terminal command on EMUI though, so I don't know if it could be better.
There were more things I like / don't like at EMUI, but right now nothing else cross my mind.
I had a list with things I like and I don't like in an app on my Nova and there were more things, but I've forgot what I've wrote there. Since it's broken, I can't access it, but I think I had a backup of that app made with Titanium Backup, so maybe I'll grab it through TWRP and restore it on my old phone to check.
I remember though that on the list I don't like was persistent notifications and seeing 0mb at apps in Developer Options > Running services, but when I've tried the last update they were actually solved (persistent notifications were really persistent and I could see the proper RAM usage at apps).
Why I won't buy Huawei anymore as of now:
I'd say that the percent is 99%.
EMUI - already listed some things I don't like and some of them are annoying af. As I've said, I have nothing to complain about AOSP, no annoying things or whatsoever.
Huawei support - this is a joke IMO. Lemme give examples. Huawei Nova came with Marshmallow (EMUI 4.1). You've updated it to EMUI 5 and even today it doesn't have a rollback update to go back to EMUI 4.1. Basically, people are stuck with EMUI 5 and obliged to accept your new changes which may not like. There's no full EMUI 4.1 firmware on Firmware Finder and the only way to go back to EMUI 4.1 is to unlock the bootloader, install TWRP and restore a backup of EMUI 4.1, only if you're lucky to get one from someone else. When I've asked Huawei support about rollback update, they've said about going to service. Well, **** that.
Second example is about the kernel source. You've uploaded EMUI 5 kernel source for a Chinese model of Huawei Nova and there was no EMUI 5 kernel source uploaded/mentioned for CAN-L11 and the other models. I've asked several times Huawei support about publishing the source for CAN-L11 and I've been told the same thing always. After a long time (couple of months), I've seen that there was a new category on their opensource website, with EMUI 5 kernel source for CAN-L11 and other models. I've downloaded it and compared it with the first EMUI 5 kernel source released which was for a Chinese version and I was surprised to see that's the ****ing same source code. Basically you've uploaded the same source after a long time and made a new category on your website where you've added the rest of the models at one source when you could mention the compatible models from the beginning or editing your website...
The kernel is a mess - already said it before...
Kirin chipsets - I've never used one and i would never use one.
XDA support - kinda all Huawei phones are dead on XDA. Some of the things listed before should be helping this.
That's pretty much all I had to say. If you're really looking into making changes, then I'll also be looking forward to those changes. I hope you're actually willing to make changes and that this thread won't be useless.
I'd really consider Huawei again if it's gonna have AOSP / Android One and Qualcomm chipset.
PS: Just noticed that there was a typo ("bloatwait" instead bloatware lol). I'm sorry if there's more typos/mistakes. I've wrote on my old phone which is a Galaxy S Advance with 4 inch screen and the keyboard is small...
I have used every single OEM based distro since the beginning of android. I have to say that out of all of them Sense was the one I liked the best. Here are my reasons why.
1. They had their own style (original Sense versions) They didn't copy anyone else. This is a big deal really. I personally am not a fan of material design. It looks very childish and unprofessional.
2. Added features that didn't bog down the UI (Hey Samsung)
3. They didn't add useless features just because everyone else did.
Now these things have changed as of late and I wouldn't use the new HTC sense (was part of their beta group at one time. They didnt listen)
With people using things like custom launchers, icon packs, themes and wallpaper apps like KLWP the over all UI of the OS really doesnt matter as its almost never seen. I mean how many times does someone really go into settings outside the first time setup? The notification shade is the major thing of the underlying OS that people see the most.
Android Go is really pointless unless you plan on lowering the specs of the honor devices. They lose functionality which is pointless if the hardware good enough for the standard version.
As for the chip. Well really that will only matter if the team puts in the time to help developers with documentation for working with the chip. This is the reason for the support of qualcomm chips. They have gone out of their way over the years helping developers with documentation and apis for working with the chips. You provide this and it will help alot.
I want to say Aosp will make you guys a Huge hit all around the globe. Especially if you bring Aosp over One flagship and one budget phone.
Personally i love emui. But market more oriented to Aosp
I'd take the Nokia approach to this matter. Since Huawei uses their AI mostly in the camera app, I'd love if there was an honor flagship running android one software and Huawei / honor camera app. Also, the background user data analysis for better battery and resource optimisations, claimed to be in EMUI 8 are being implemented in android P, so it's a win win for both the company and the customers
For those that are claiming aosp is the way to go atop and think about this. Samsung is the biggest Android oem and it is not because it get aosp. It's because of the features that touch Wiz offers that Google doesn't. Aosp really is bare bones enough that it can be compared to running Linux on a pc. It works but not as full featured or as well as something built for the hardware.
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For those that are claiming aosp is the way to go atop and think about this. Samsung is the biggest Android oem and it is not because it get aosp. It's because of the features that touch Wiz offers that Google doesn't. Aosp really is bare bones enough that it can be compared to running Linux on a pc. It works but not as full featured or as well as something built for the hardware.
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Completely agree with you man, but Honor doesn't really have much hardware differentiation like Samsung has infinity displays and S pen. All other EMUI features like Knock gestures are barely used and features like app twin can be done using a third party app like parallel space. But the benefits that Android one like ROM offers, like smoother UI experience and enabling faster updates with little to no feature exclusions. So I beg to differ in my opinion that OEM skin (EMUI) offers any benefits over Aosp.
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Completely agree with you man, but Honor doesn't really have much hardware differentiation like Samsung has infinity displays and S pen. All other EMUI features like Knock gestures are barely used and features like app twin can be done using a third party app like parallel space. But the benefits that Android one like ROM offers, like smoother UI experience and enabling faster updates with little to no feature exclusions. So I beg to differ in my opinion that OEM skin (EMUI) offers any benefits over Aosp.
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But see android one is a watered down version of android really. To be honest honor software is over all crap. I'm not sure who they ha E writing the software but they should be demoted.
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But see android one is a watered down version of android really. To be honest honor software is over all crap. I'm not sure who they ha E writing the software but they should be demoted.
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I was just stating my opinion and I truly believe android one or stock android, for that matter, make a midrange phone, with lesser CPU power and RAM, perform equal to Honor / Huawei's 2017-18 flagship, the View 10 or the Mate 10 pro, running EMUI, and having better battery backup. I agree that EMUI is okayish to an extent because it is better than any other custom skins except Oxygen OS, but fragmenting the UI into region based firmware is a completely useless thing to do, considering that it slows down updates, takes more human resources to develop updates to separate regions and not to mention that they state regional feature prioritisation as the reason, but most of the basic features are common and they just add bloat like Paytm integration in Indian version and stuff like a separate Huawei app store on the international version, which is essentially useless because of all the stocks being updated either through the playstore or OTAs. Just My Opinion and I speak only for myself.
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I was just stating my opinion and I truly believe android one or stock android, for that matter, make a midrange phone, with lesser CPU power and RAM, perform equal to Honor / Huawei's 2017-18 flagship, the View 10 or the Mate 10 pro, running EMUI, and having better battery backup. I agree that EMUI is okayish to an extent because it is better than any other custom skins except Oxygen OS, but fragmenting the UI into region based firmware is a completely useless thing to do, considering that it slows down updates, takes more human resources to develop updates to separate regions and not to mention that they state regional feature prioritisation as the reason, but most of the basic features are common and they just add bloat like Paytm integration in Indian version and stuff like a separate Huawei app store on the international version, which is essentially useless because of all the stocks being updated either through the playstore or OTAs. Just My Opinion and I speak only for myself.
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It won't make it equal to a flagship, it will just make a mid range not suck as much.
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It won't make it equal to a flagship, it will just make a mid range not suck as much.
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Exactly my point. But when you take a powerful midranger like a Nokia 7+ and compare it with an honor flagship running EMUI, say a View 10, I agree that the raw power of the CPU or the SoC would make the flagship open apps much quicker and load much faster, but since we are talking about UI experiences, we must touch the issues like memory management, resource allocation, battery optimisations, etc. I'd say based on my usage that once the apps are loaded onto memory on both phones, I find switching apps and multitasking a bit smoother on the stock android (android one) and with very comparable battery sizes (3800 vs 3750 mAh), the Nokia 7+ provides a bit more extended D battery life on heavy usage. Light to moderate usage yields very much the same battery life of around 7.5 - 8 hrs SoT, but think of what honor phones with flagship specs could achieve with android one or stock android. I'd say that at this point, with very comparable hardware on almost all flagships, UI makes a lot of difference and I think EMUI, though providing a lot of features and is almost as fast as android one, I'd say the extra features added only weigh it down in terms of raw performance.
Pure Android is always better choice over other custom UIs. It is fast, smooth and lag free.
It is fine even if it doesn't have some customizations that other UIs offer.
EMUI memory management makes some apps does not work properly.
[email protected]_USA said:
Hello again everyone,
Interesting conversation I want to have with users here; which Android skin do you like most and why?
Obviously AOSP != what Pixels run.
What if a future Honor device ran Android One/Go? Would that be enough to convince you buy one? What if Kirin hardware was still used even with Android One?
What do you like and not like about EMUI?
Really want to get your all's input and feedback.
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Problem wid skin like emui is, OEMs take longer to bring android updates. More the skin is close to stock android more easier it is to give timely updates.
Honor itself has pathetic record in rolling out updates, that's the thing i dislike about emui
Ive been using stock roms from the time i got my kenzo. Stock roms are great and so much feature rich. The recent launch of MiUi 10 has many interesting features and it has made me think if I should go back to MiUi just for the visual experience. I mean user experience is also important right. What do you guys feel?
Quite a subjective question. I only use miui like a week. I don't the visuals nor the amount of crapware it has.
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Quite a subjective question. I only use miui like a week. I don't the visuals nor the amount of crapware it has.
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Agree, few like MIUI and few like me hate it from the core of the heart. I kept my phone in drawer for 14 days until I was able to unlock the bootloader. I can't stand MIUI, I can still use buggy AOSP rom instead of stable MIUI.
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Ive been using stock roms from the time i got my kenzo. Stock roms are great and so much feature rich. The recent launch of MiUi 10 has many interesting features and it has made me think if I should go back to MiUi just for the visual experience. I mean user experience is also important right. What do you guys feel?
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Miui gives u good features. Good camera quality, audio experience, battery life too. It also has inbuilt call recorder. But it has stock gapps which u may not use all and consider it as unnecessary bloat.
Even if it has so many features people mostly prefer higher android version and go with custom roms. Coz it has better performance, security and new innovative features and much improved core structure.
As mentioned before, I've never seen anyone neutral about miui. This ROM is made and optimized for xiaomi devices and there are many features only miui can give compared to others. The convenience and the visual experience, the smoothness of miui kept me going back to it again and again - Epic ROM Miui9 was the best build I've tried and used for a 6-8 months. Now I use oreo RR, because this is now on a level to compete user experience with miui... I mean this was... before miui 10.
Now I really hope that both, android P and miui 10 will be ported to this device, and I can try both before decide. I love my oreo setup now, but this is getting boring after months of use...
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As mentioned before, I've never seen anyone neutral about miui. This ROM is made and optimized for xiaomi devices and there are many features only miui can give compared to others. The convenience and the visual experience, the smoothness of miui kept me going back to it again and again - Epic ROM Miui9 was the best build I've tried and used for a 6-8 months. Now I use oreo RR, because this is now on a level to compete user experience with miui... I mean this was... before miui 10.
Now I really hope that both, android P and miui 10 will be ported to this device, and I can try both before decide. I love my oreo setup now, but this is getting boring after months of use...
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Its the same thing with me.. Oreo setup with AEx rom is cool bt its getting boring now and all stock roms have more or less the same features. Miui 10 videos are too tempting to give a try wen its out.
Hi folks,
Just got my Scorpio few days ago.
I'm not new to recovery twrp custom roms and others.
I was previously on a Zuk Z2 pro with Mokee that was a great rom.
The only thing i noticed on all custom roms is that they are never as much fully functional as the stock rom.
Just a little poll to know about your feelings on all the custom roms available with that Xiaomi Scorpio.
Currently, I'm on miui 9.6.1.0 based on 8.1 .
I've tried also lineageos but i need your feedback.
So just post something like "Best os tested: XXXX" E.G
Especially on ? life i care.
Thanks guys
You can try MiuiPro if you don't mind the fact that you need to pay 1.5 euro a month to download it and the slower updates than other custom MIUIs.
MiuiPro gave me the best performance and battery life for a custom MIUI ROM. Others like xiaomi.eu , mi-globe, miui ms or hellas are good but not as good as MiuiPro seems to be...
If you would consider to really get into a stable custom ROM that is not based on the MIUI sources, the last AEX can be a great choice.
The thing about custom ROMs for scorpio is that almost all of them are based on the same sources, so, you should get almost the same experience with performance and battery in every ROM. AEX is the one that stands out because it has a lot of features that enlightens the user experience.
This is strictly my opinion and the way i see things around here.
Hope you find your perfect ROM. We have official Mokee if you want to try it, you just have to go to their official site. It's maintaned by a chinese guy. I believe it uses his own sources which, from what i can tell , because i've tested it, it's a very good competitor to other ROMs.
Also, enjoy your new phone, welcome to the community and happy flashing!
Here is the link to the official telegram group.
Have a great day!
alexmanu1 said:
You can try MiuiPro if you don't mind the fact that you need to pay 1.5 euro a month to download it and the slower updates than other custom MIUIs.
MiuiPro gave me the best performance and battery life for a custom MIUI ROM. Others like xiaomi.eu , mi-globe, miui ms or hellas are good but not as good as MiuiPro seems to be...
If you would consider to really get into a stable custom ROM that is not based on the MIUI sources, the last AEX can be a great choice.
The thing about custom ROMs for scorpio is that almost all of them are based on the same sources, so, you should get almost the same experience with performance and battery in every ROM. AEX is the one that stands out because it has a lot of features that enlightens the user experience.
This is strictly my opinion and the way i see things around here.
Hope you find your perfect ROM. We have official Mokee if you want to try it, you just have to go to their official site. It's maintaned by a chinese guy. I believe it uses his own sources which, from what i can tell , because i've tested it, it's a very good competitor to other ROMs.
Also, enjoy your new phone, welcome to the community and happy flashing!
Here is the link to the official telegram group.
Have a great day!
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Heyy
Thanks for your perfect answer.
I will give a look at AEX though.
Thanks!!
I have tried almost any Custom ROM out there for the Mi Note 2: I started with the MIUI-based ones and then moved away looking for something better, without so many customizations.
- MIUI Developer has been a quick-try, but I soon abandoned it. Too much bloatware for my requirements, slow developments and an overall grade of customization that rendered impossible using some android functions. (some examples: android pay, contactless payments with 3rd party apps, biometric advanced unlock not reliable, notifications were a total mess, background apps force-closed by system despite all settings, etc.)
- xiaomi.eu has been a nice start, but it is still very similar to MIUI and without significant improvements. Development is quite constant, but most of the times BUGs are depending on the source MIUI, hence most limitations are the same. Battery life is quite incoherent: for some weeks it may be fine and then for a couple of versions it could be terrific.
- Mi Globe has been another quick-try: it is just a basic MIUI with a bunch of “mods” stacked on top of it, all hold together with a bit of glue and some spare tape. A lot of “smoke” but quite often based on an old core. Definitely something I would not recommend.
- MIUI MS was even worse than Mi Globe in my opinion. Also, main support is non-English based.
- MIUI PRO did not made its way into the list of ROMs I could even consider. If I have to pay for a custom ROM, I would have stayed on Apple. But that is my humble opinion.
- Ressurrection Remix by Stonetrapper was the first Custom ROM that really gave me satisfaction, both with performances and graphical customization. Unfortunately it wasn’t officially supported, so updates were sparse and soon become obsolete. A major problem for me was the incompatibility with most – if not all – GCAM porting.
- Ressurection Remix by PSY was a brief try. I don’t like performances of the custom-tailored kernel by that developer: too much power-hungry. Also, there was the same problem with updates that I bumped into with RR.
- Tesla N was a nice experiment, but with too many bugs and an overall lack of following development. Battery optimization in the end, however, was really nice.
- AOSP Extended was another experiment soon to be deleted: lack of development, too many errors with too many applications.
- SlimROM has been a nice companion for a while, good performance, good battery life. But again, Kernel optimizations were too much power-hungry and in the end has become unstable for my usage.
- crDroid was just a burning star, at least for me. Tried and went over pretty soon. None of the purposed “optimizations” were significant for me, but battery life was among the best.
- dotOS never made its way after day 6 on my device. I wouldn’t recommend it if you are looking for stability.
- CosmicOS was a great ROM, I enjoyed using it while updates were constant. Then It became troubling with more recent apps, and has a lot of problems with recent GCAM ports.
- AEX has ben a kind of “hate-love” for me. Nice customizations, but in the end too many custom choices rendered it difficult to integrate on daily usage for me. (personally I didn’t find it smooth and lag-free as described).
- LineageOS has been my arriving point in all my experience with Custom ROMs: it has a strong Android core bringing all the most recent Android features and functionalities to my Note 2. It is kind of “barebone out-of-the-box” since there is no customization and you will need to tweak and adapt to your needs. It may require more time at the beginning, with a steep learning curve, but on the long term, it is worth the shot. I’m happily using the Official Nightly straight from LineageOS Download Page: updates are constant, performance is exceptional (provided you take time to iron-out some kernel optimizations according to your needs) and battery life is really good. There is full compatibility with GCAM ports (provided of course you pick the one which works best on Mi Note 2) and all Android Core Functions (like NFC Payments, that are crucial for me) works good. Plus, with some Magisk Modules I could choose which aspects – derived from official Pixel – I want to include and I’m really happy with the final result.
Please note that this is just a brief summary of my personal experience with the aforementioned ROMs, and thus it represents a personal opinion that has no intention whatsoever to diminish and/or deny and/or belittle he hard work of all developers.
I hope my experience could help you finding the best ROM for your needs.
N3OMOD said:
I have tried almost any Custom ROM out there for the Mi Note 2: I started with the MIUI-based ones and then moved away looking for something better, without so many customizations.
- MIUI Developer has been a quick-try, but I soon abandoned it. Too much bloatware for my requirements, slow developments and an overall grade of customization that rendered impossible using some android functions. (some examples: android pay, contactless payments with 3rd party apps, biometric advanced unlock not reliable, notifications were a total mess, background apps force-closed by system despite all settings, etc.)
- xiaomi.eu has been a nice start, but it is still very similar to MIUI and without significant improvements. Development is quite constant, but most of the times BUGs are depending on the source MIUI, hence most limitations are the same. Battery life is quite incoherent: for some weeks it may be fine and then for a couple of versions it could be terrific.
- Mi Globe has been another quick-try: it is just a basic MIUI with a bunch of “mods” stacked on top of it, all hold together with a bit of glue and some spare tape. A lot of “smoke” but quite often based on an old core. Definitely something I would not recommend.
- MIUI MS was even worse than Mi Globe in my opinion. Also, main support is non-English based.
- MIUI PRO did not made its way into the list of ROMs I could even consider. If I have to pay for a custom ROM, I would have stayed on Apple. But that is my humble opinion.
- Ressurrection Remix by Stonetrapper was the first Custom ROM that really gave me satisfaction, both with performances and graphical customization. Unfortunately it wasn’t officially supported, so updates were sparse and soon become obsolete. A major problem for me was the incompatibility with most – if not all – GCAM porting.
- Ressurection Remix by PSY was a brief try. I don’t like performances of the custom-tailored kernel by that developer: too much power-hungry. Also, there was the same problem with updates that I bumped into with RR.
- Tesla N was a nice experiment, but with too many bugs and an overall lack of following development. Battery optimization in the end, however, was really nice.
- AOSP Extended was another experiment soon to be deleted: lack of development, too many errors with too many applications.
- SlimROM has been a nice companion for a while, good performance, good battery life. But again, Kernel optimizations were too much power-hungry and in the end has become unstable for my usage.
- crDroid was just a burning star, at least for me. Tried and went over pretty soon. None of the purposed “optimizations” were significant for me, but battery life was among the best.
- dotOS never made its way after day 6 on my device. I wouldn’t recommend it if you are looking for stability.
- CosmicOS was a great ROM, I enjoyed using it while updates were constant. Then It became troubling with more recent apps, and has a lot of problems with recent GCAM ports.
- AEX has ben a kind of “hate-love” for me. Nice customizations, but in the end too many custom choices rendered it difficult to integrate on daily usage for me. (personally I didn’t find it smooth and lag-free as described).
- LineageOS has been my arriving point in all my experience with Custom ROMs: it has a strong Android core bringing all the most recent Android features and functionalities to my Note 2. It is kind of “barebone out-of-the-box” since there is no customization and you will need to tweak and adapt to your needs. It may require more time at the beginning, with a steep learning curve, but on the long term, it is worth the shot. I’m happily using the Official Nightly straight from LineageOS Download Page: updates are constant, performance is exceptional (provided you take time to iron-out some kernel optimizations according to your needs) and battery life is really good. There is full compatibility with GCAM ports (provided of course you pick the one which works best on Mi Note 2) and all Android Core Functions (like NFC Payments, that are crucial for me) works good. Plus, with some Magisk Modules I could choose which aspects – derived from official Pixel – I want to include and I’m really happy with the final result.
Please note that this is just a brief summary of my personal experience with the aforementioned ROMs, and thus it represents a personal opinion that has no intention whatsoever to diminish and/or deny and/or belittle he hard work of all developers.
I hope my experience could help you finding the best ROM for your needs.
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Wow what a full answer !!
I was previously on CM13 with my OPO, and move to Mokee on my Zuk Z2 Pro so LineageOS would be pretty simple for me to deal with it.
I currently trying the miui latest based on Android 8.0, and it seems fine, but indeed, the customization is not as much easier that on LOS (CM Based).
I will go with LOS latest though and provide some feedback.
But what about camera ? I've read here and there that all custom roms are suffering from camera issues.
What is the best alternative to make it work properly ?
And, which Magisk module do you recommend ?
Thanks !!
oliv1208 said:
Wow what a full answer !!
I was previously on CM13 with my OPO, and move to Mokee on my Zuk Z2 Pro so LineageOS would be pretty simple for me to deal with it.
I currently trying the miui latest based on Android 8.0, and it seems fine, but indeed, the customization is not as much easier that on LOS (CM Based).
I will go with LOS latest though and provide some feedback.
But what about camera ? I've read here and there that all custom roms are suffering from camera issues.
What is the best alternative to make it work properly ?
And, which Magisk module do you recommend ?
Thanks !!
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My top three are:
1. Miui Pro
2. Android Pie (pixel port)
3. Pixel rom
Which rom are you using and why did you choose it?
For me it's miui 10.3.6 for stability and battery life.
Farooq28 said:
Which rom are you using and why did you choose it?
For me it's miui 10.3.6 for stability and battery life.
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I'm using OOS Beta 17, i haven't experienced any bugs. I've choosen it because of it's good perfomance and great UI.
Farooq28 said:
Which rom are you using and why did you choose it?
For me it's miui 10.3.6 for stability and battery life.
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I'm on pixel experience
For stock experience and better battery life than miui
I'm using fully stock 11.05.
I use it for the primary reason that I don't want to deal with bugs and incompatibilities.
Poco is scheduled for Android 10 so I'll wait for that.
After which maybe down the line I might unlock bootloader and install a custom ROM.
But by that time I will have a new phone I guess..
Right now I'm using iPhone 11 Pro 256. It's really fast trust me. And battery is better than android.
Reverted to stock miui 11 because of dreadful ghost touches on custom roms.
But stock is literally crippled compared to crDroid rom. It lacks many basic customization features, and it is severely bloated with apps you can't even disable, not to mention uninstall.
Alrich said:
I'm using fully stock 11.05.
I use it for the primary reason that I don't want to deal with bugs and incompatibilities.
Poco is scheduled for Android 10 so I'll wait for that.
After which maybe down the line I might unlock bootloader and install a custom ROM.
But by that time I will have a new phone I guess..
Right now I'm using iPhone 11 Pro 256. It's really fast trust me. And battery is better than android.
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as and iphone user, it doesnt surprize me that you never unlocked bootloader!
also its unfair to say iphone11pro has better battery life than android? how did you comeup with this analogy ? you can say that iphone11pro 256 has better battery life than POCO f1 then it would make sense but EVEN then it will be unfair comparision where you are comparing 1000+ usd device with last year's 299usd!
Oneplus7Pro or Huawei Mate30pro or S10+ 512gb/5g version would be your best bet to test and compare iphone11pro256
why?
because as of today till up to now, iOS is NOT open for any other vendor to install and sell! if there was IOS based PocoF1 or iOS based oneplus7pro then you can say iphone11max is performing way better!
iphone is premium hardware seller where Google's mojo is software based!
YasuHamed said:
as and iphone user, it doesnt surprize me that you never unlocked bootloader!
also its unfair to say iphone11pro has better battery life than android? how did you comeup with this analogy ? you can say that iphone11pro 256 has better battery life than POCO f1 then it would make sense but EVEN then it will be unfair comparision where you are comparing 1000+ usd device with last year's 299usd!
Oneplus7Pro or Huawei Mate30pro or S10+ 512gb/5g version would be your best bet to test and compare iphone11pro256
why?
because as of today till up to now, iOS is NOT open for any other vendor to install and sell! if there was IOS based PocoF1 or iOS based oneplus7pro then you can say iphone11max is performing way better!
iphone is premium hardware seller where Google's mojo is software based!
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How polite of you to take a simple comment and blow it out of proportion with assumptions and accusations. This is a forum and everyone is entitled to an opinion and in my opinion, apples to apples, the battery life on the iPhone is better than what I've comparatively used.
Also its nice of you to assume I know nothing of bootloaders etc. Going all the way back to my Sony Xperia and around 6 phones after, I've unlocked them all and used custom ROMs on all of them.
Perhaps you don't understand the value of stability.
Besides I'm still in warranty and I don't want to lose that. So please stay in your line with your stupid argument.
And have a good day.
baiMangau said:
Reverted to stock miui 11 because of dreadful ghost touches on custom roms.
But stock is literally crippled compared to crDroid rom. It lacks many basic customization features, and it is severely bloated with apps you can't even disable, not to mention uninstall.
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Bloatware apps can be disabled via an app MIUI Hidden Settings downloadable from Play Store. Also they can be unistalled via adb without needing to unlock bootloader or root the phone
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Bloatware apps can be disabled via an app MIUI Hidden Settings downloadable from Play Store. Also they can be unistalled via adb without needing to unlock bootloader or root the phone
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Thanks for sharing. I wasn't aware of that app. Disabled 5 apps which I don't use. 4 Google apps and one xiaomi app. 15 more to go, because they can't be disabled this way. I also found the private DNS option there, which I had to tweak via activity shortcut the other day.
I'll dig around for the adb uninstall idea. Gotta read some stuff before uninstalling this and that. Don't wanna break the ROM.
This is the guide I used to unistall unwanted bloatwares. It's easy to re-install back the apps in case u found out later that you need them.