A new cheap China tablet: "Voyo Q101 4G" a.k.a. "Teclast 98" 2GB/32GB octa w/ LTE
So far I have not found any related discussions or suggestions for this rather new and very cheap tablet.
Mine is still in the mail, but I am curious how to 'open' it up, i.e. getting root functionality and maybe some other needed modifications to make it really useful?
The spec sheets for both the Teclast 98 and the Voyo Q101 4G are identical, apparently they use identical hardware (MT6753, Mali-T720, 2/32GB) and also the same stock Android 6.0 image?
On paper the specifications and functions look very appealing, and its street price of less than $100 (88Euro) will probably stir up the low end market quite a bit.
There may be even more clones with different names, does anybody know about these? It may help to compile generic information, applicable to all of these identical devices.
Has anybody started tinkering with this new 'phablet'? There seem to be issues with its phone functionality, with the recognition of 64GB memory cards, no root success messages so far, etc.
Which rooting method will work and prevent 'bricking' such a device? What else could be flashed or installed on it?
Thanks for any ideas and thoughts!
A comparing data sheet of these tablets (either model, Voyo or Teclast) I found here:
https://www.kimovil.com/de/compare-tablets/teclast-98-2gb-32gb,voyo-q101
Hello
I bought a Voyo Q101 and should have been delivered by this week.
I bought it because they speak it well, it has a very low price and the 64 bit MTK6752 processor has good features and can play with it.
I will still try to study the competing model Teclast 98 because it probably has the same identical hardware and maybe even the scatter + ROMs are the same.
I hope it is not difficult but I would like to have the following things available:
- ROM original (backup)
- ROOT
- TWRP working for this device.
I wrote to Voyo asking if he could upload the tablet's firmware to http://en.myvoyo.com/ so you could have at least the scatter.txt to create a custom TWRP and at least be able to create a backup yourself SP FlashTools.
It is not easy to do these things but try it does not cost anything.
Then it will not be difficult to do the Root, always through TWRP.
I hope someone will join this thread so that they can work together.
So we are two already!
I also contacted Voyo in this matter, and am considering to approach Teclast as well. As far as I know these two devices ARE absolutely identical. Both could benefit from community driven tools, improvements and fixes.
The interesting is, why the divice is not in Voyo site?
Anyway, does anyone know if it can accept an SD card as internal memory? I read about a problem in which it does not use 32GB as storage storage apps, only a small part. Does anyone know anything about this?
Weverton Douglas said:
The interesting is, why the divice is not in Voyo site?
Anyway, does anyone know if it can accept an SD card as internal memory? I read about a problem in which it does not use 32GB as storage storage apps, only a small part. Does anyone know anything about this?
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Here is the link to the Voyo website and spec sheet of the Q101; interestingly they mention a slightly larger 5Ah battery, while it usually is advertised with 4900mAh.
http://en.myvoyo.com/chanpin/pingban/811.shtml
Isnt't the SD card issue (moving apps and/or data to the external memory) an Android 6.0 issue in general?
I am using Link2SD on my four rooted devices with older Android revisions (2.3, 4, 5), also an extra SDEext partition.
I definitely want and need a similar method for this phablet.
For the sake of compiling all available international information about the "Q101 4G"/"TecLast Tpad 98 4G" I dug up two threads in other (Ru, I) forums:
http://www.androidiani.com/forum/tu...ad-ufficiale-voyo-q101-4g-phablet-10-1-a.html
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=826767&st=0
My Russian (as Google's) is rusty, it is not easy to read these threads..
According to one source TWRP and Kingroot may work to open it up.
TecLast has apparently released its image, but I cannot locate it?
It would be nice if anyone could confirm that indeed these two phablets from Voyo and Teclast ARE absolutely identical.
It would certainly simplify their maintenance and control.
WOW BOYS !!!!
We are in many users !!!
Unfortunately, for the moment, the ROMs are not available on Voyo's website and Teclast's website.
We hope they provide fast.
By comparing the firmware we may be able to know if they are exactly the same.
Let's try to take a step at a time.
A) find the devices ROM
B) Create a TWRP to install at least ROOT permissions .... even if I think I can install them through ADB commands.
C) Installing an AD Block (for me very important)
I would also like to know that OTA updates will be released because in this case we will not be able to change the recovery, at least until the ROM is stable.
PS: I think someone should open an official thread on XDA because it is right to do so.
However, we are trying to understand whether the two tablets are the same.
Yes, I do agree that a 'formal' topic should be created, for EACH of the two devices, because:
I did find out that they apparently are NOT identical as the link https://www.kimovil.com/de/compare-t...32gb,voyo-q101 indicated; their specs are simply wrong!
The russian site http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=832099 has a neat selection of infos about the Voyo Q101 4G, but is hard to read. We need a similar ENGLISH version to help each other out.
The "Voyo Q101 4G" is also sold as the "Voyo i8" (Asian market?); there was another "Q101" model sold by Voyo years ago, with entirely different hardware and a smaller 9.7in screen. Very confusing marketing...
As to the differences between Voyo Q101 4G and Teclast Tpad 98 I did find out:
dimensions really are:
Teclast TPad 98 - - - 238 x 170 x 9.89 mm
VOYO Q101 4G - - - 242 x 172 x 9,0 mm
Different GSM/LTE bands (unverified):
Voyo:
2G: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz,
3G: WCDMA 850/900/1900 / 2100MHz, Band 1 / 2/5/8
4G: LTE FDD-1800/2100 / 2600MHz, Band 1/2/3/4 / 5/7/8/17/20 , LTE-TDD - Band 38/39/40/41
TecLast:
2G: GSM 900/1800 MHz,
3G: WCDMA - 2100MHz, die TD-SCDMA - Band 34/39
4G: FDD-LTE 1800/2100 MHz, Band 1/3, TDD-LTE Band 38/39/40
Someone seems to have flashed the Voyo with the Teclast image and lost the camera flashlight function?
The Teclast Tpad 98 image looks like this:
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=817550096634772747
So we really should be careful about mixing the similar but apparently not identical devices up.
If someone speaks RUSSIAN it would be helpful to translate the useful info and instructions found at
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=832099, also their pool of firmware and tools around the rooting/flashing etc. They seem to be far ahead with this thinh, while I am still waiting to receive my own unit.
Where will the 'official' support topics for the Voyo Q101 4G and the Teclast Tpad 98 be put on this XDA site?
I am not really a wiz, not too active, more a curious user with some urge to tinker a bit and squeeze the most out of this interesting and feature loaded phablet, a real steal at $99!
Thanks!
Be carefull. Teclast 98 and Teclast T98 are different models. The VOYO Q101 is the same with Teclast 98.
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Be carefull. Teclast 98 and Teclast T98 are different models. The VOYO Q101 is the same with Teclast 98.
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According to Teclast's website there is only a 'Teclast 98 (octacore)' on the market these days:
http://www.teclast.com/en/tablet.html
It uses the MT6753.
But is still NOT identical to the Voyo Q101 4G as outlined above (dimensions, mobile bands, firmware).
I do find a variety of older offers for a 'T98', with varying CPU and Android versions (MT8752T,MT8735P. Android 4.4, 5.1,.). They of course are entirely different beasts than the actual '98'-
Voyo shows their 10.1in MT6753 model now as 'Q101' (without mentioning "4G" in the model name):
http://en.myvoyo.com/chanpin/pingban/811.shtml
And the same model again as "i8" when using the Chinese site:
http://www.myvoyo.com/chanpin/pingbandiannao/872.html
An earlier version of "Voyo Q101" was offered years ago, using 1GB/16GB and a MT6582, with Android 5.1 It disappeared from Voyo's website. Again an entirely different beast.
It is the actual MT6753/10.1in/Android 6.0 version that is the core of this discussion.
So I am still suggesting to create TWO official threads, like at 4pda.ru.
For each the "Voyo Q101 4G" AND possibly also the "Teclast Tpad 98" if there is an interested group of owners.
I am still expecting my Voyo; currently I am simply trying to prep myself, collecting tools and infos, so I can at least root it, my main desire.
Thanks!
I've had one of these for a few weeks now. Purchased from GB. Works and just fine although I haven't tried a sim card in it but has one major issue. If I let the battery run down the tablet will suddenly switch off and after that it won't accept any charge or turn back on. I think it's either the battery voltage sensing hardware or the firmware. For such a cheap device I couldn't be bothered with the hassle of sending it back so I voided the warranty by opening it up and used my lab power supply to recharge the battery which was initially reading 2.95 volts. When it had charged to 3.7V I put the tablet back together and it worked fine again. This has happened twice now (both times when another family member was using it).
Thanks for the heads up on the bad voltage sensor issue!
On all my mobile devices I am using a floating battery voltage widget (Resource Monitor Mini Pro), that tells the current voltage. It is way more precise than the estimated percentage display by Android. I found that these % readings vary with each restart/recharge, will hang at some values and then suddendly dive to zero.
I am now reacting to voltage readings only, and recharge my devices as soon as they drop below 3,55V, a full charge usually tops off around 4.15V.
Makes me wonder how long the Q101 will run on a full 'usable' charge in the modes:
- Display on
- +WLAN on
- +GPS on
?
Looks like there is very little interest at XDA regarding this Voyo tablet, a real pity.
I will now try to join the 4PDA forum at Russia, as they have a very active and knowledgable group of i8/Q101 4G owners.
Reading technical instructions in "Russian-English" was not my goal, but apparently I am forced to go down that route.
Should XDA ever decide to formally support the Voyo Q101 4G/i8 (aka Teclast Tpad 98), please let me know - thanks!
Anyything new? i also own a q101 and would look Forward exploring that a custom Rom works...
Mine arrived two days ago.
First impressions:
- heavy, probably due to the battery; it drains at 0.3%/hr idle over night, 12%/hr in full use; not too bad if one keeps the display dimmed.
- all advertised functions work, incl. phone, GPS, WLAN, BT, FM radio, cameras
- a magnetic sensor is reported, but not really 'there', shows fixed values
- the display is OK, speed as well, the two speakers are tinny
- there seems to be a screen protector installed already. I will leave it on for now, until I find a source for good MATTE protectors that fit this 10" display.
- my Sandisk 32GB UHC memory card was accepted, a new 64GB card is on its way
- it may report a new MAC address with each WLAN connect, not confirmed yet
The lack of sensors is the biggest disappointment so far, it will limit its functionality (astronomy, navigation etc) a lot.
I tried to sign up at the Russian pda site, but am failing the numeric captcha test so far, bummer. I started learning Russian numbering now, so I can pass the test!
They DO have neat tools, I even found a first image "2017-06-28--00-39-41_Q101_V01" there, but am not sure what to do with it? Reading the auto-translated instructions destroys a lot of the valuable information.
Are TWRP files always 'customized'? Can I use the one for the Teclast Tpad 98? Apparently the Teclast has NO camera flashlight, so its FW may not be suitable for the Voyo Q101 4G (aka i8)?
Maybe it is too early and new interested Q101 4G/i8 owners will pop up here soon?
So far I am collecting all infos, files, tools etc to prep myself.
My sole intention is to have a rooted tablet; I am not so much into customization as long as it is not necessary due to bugs in the original FW.
Anyone?!
mw210461 said:
Mine arrived two days ago.
First impressions:
- heavy, probably due to the battery; it drains at 0.3%/hr idle over night, 12%/hr in full use; not too bad if one keeps the display dimmed.
- all advertised functions work, incl. phone, GPS, WLAN, BT, FM radio, cameras
- a magnetic sensor is reported, but not really 'there', shows fixed values
- the display is OK, speed as well, the two speakers are tinny
- there seems to be a screen protector installed already. I will leave it on for now, until I find a source for good MATTE protectors that fit this 10" display.
- my Sandisk 32GB UHC memory card was accepted, a new 64GB card is on its way
- it may report a new MAC address with each WLAN connect, not confirmed yet
The lack of sensors is the biggest disappointment so far, it will limit its functionality (astronomy, navigation etc) a lot.
I tried to sign up at the Russian pda site, but am failing the numeric captcha test so far, bummer. I started learning Russian numbering now, so I can pass the test!
They DO have neat tools, I even found a first image "2017-06-28--00-39-41_Q101_V01" there, but am not sure what to do with it? Reading the auto-translated instructions destroys a lot of the valuable information.
Are TWRP files always 'customized'? Can I use the one for the Teclast Tpad 98? Apparently the Teclast has NO camera flashlight, so its FW may not be suitable for the Voyo Q101 4G (aka i8)?
Maybe it is too early and new interested Q101 4G/i8 owners will pop up here soon?
So far I am collecting all infos, files, tools etc to prep myself.
My sole intention is to have a rooted tablet; I am not so much into customization as long as it is not necessary due to bugs in the original FW.
Anyone?!
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I have mine for 1 or 2 weeks now, it came with scratches on screen. So a little bit disapointing but all in all it is OK.
First of all I rooted it with KingRoot, worked fine but with little bit of ads. So I used Lucky Patcher and Ads are gone.
On the Voyo Q101 it shows Android 6.0 but that is not true. It is Android SDK version 22 and that is Android 5.
So I really hope for a new custom rom with Android 6.
Scratches: have you tried removing the (soft) screen cover? IMHO there IS a protection film over the entire front surface.
Root: you only used the KingRoot tool, no other preparations like TWRP (is this needed?)?
I read elsewhere about the Android 5/6 issue, cannot really tell so far. Most 6.0 features would not apply, but the tool for app permissions and battery dozing.
Just found out that the original 2A charger died after using it once: it now delivers 4.7V and 200-400mA only, nice..
My luck, as usual.
mw210461 said:
Scratches: have you tried removing the (soft) screen cover? IMHO there IS a protection film over the entire front surface.
Root: you only used the KingRoot tool, no other preparations like TWRP (is this needed?)?
I read elsewhere about the Android 5/6 issue, cannot really tell so far. Most 6.0 features would not apply, but the tool for app permissions and battery dozing.
Just found out that the original 2A charger died after using it once: it now delivers 4.7V and 200-400mA only, nice..
My luck, as usual.
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The scratches were under the screen protection, so I thought there would be a second one.
Now I know that this was the screen itself, it is also just plastic. So I ordered a case, that no one can see the edges where I tried with a swiss knife the get down the "second" protective film.
Yes, Kingroot worked for me. No TWRP, I dont have it.
When I got the tablet I tried out the stock recovery but there are only chinese signs. I had luck not to damage anything there.
Screen on time could be a bit better, I get about 5 hours on 2 days. Only surfing and small apps, no gaming.
The display is known to be easily scratched, I am currently looking for 10.1" protection films that will fit and have a MATTE surface. For now I will stick (pun!) to the one they installed at the factory.
KINGROOT does indeed work and roots the device, good idea! But in an odd way, at least for me:
- all attempts to install the APK version failed, despite accepting warnings and allowing for 3rd party apps it would simply end the installation process with 'not installed'
- using the Windows method the tool ran for over 10min, with slowly crawling percentage points, ending with a 'failed' message
- when looking into the device I DID find both Kingroot and Purify installed! Root checking still reported a failure, but a run of the Kingroot app eventually reported success!
For now I will stick to the Kingroot approach, but would prefer the SuperSU method. I did find a SuperSU-Me tool that apparently will replace KR by SU. Not sure if I should take the risk?
The device DOES alter its MAC address at each WLAN connection. I HATE this, as it clutters my router's network item list and prevents me from using dedicated network device names.
This is not the first Android device that messes my router up.
I could fix the same issue on a smartphone (NEO N003) years ago. But never succeeded in fixing it on a smartphone watch (AN1).
Does anyone know how to force this MAC address to stay constant under Android '6' (aka API 22 which indeed is '5')?
I am adding a series of screen shots demonstrating the device's design (HW and SW), for those interested in working on it. Hopefully more owners and users will share their experience and findings, to keep this thread alive.
Thanks!
No network and battery issue
I bought this and facing following two problem.
1. The battery is 1% after continuous recharge a
2. also the mobile network is not working at all with SIM card. Tried multiple things to make SIM card work but no avail
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Hello i bought a Flytouch 5, I'm wondering what people know about this tablet.
And also i like to learn here if it's possible to change the Android version to one that are around here.
I'm not really happy with the pre installation that came from the manufacturer. It works but i know it can be better.
I would be really happy with any info what is out there about this tablet.
Info from tablet.
Model Number: YOSPAD
Android Version: V2.3 2011-07-17(001112)
Kernel Version: 2.6.32.9 [email protected] #216
Build Version:FR858
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I noticed to that when i post with the tablet the footnote on the bottom of the message says "Sent from my mercury using XDA App"
I hope this extra info will help.
Operating System Android 2.3
Model Fly Touch 5
Product Type Tablet
Keyboard Touch screen
Battery Type 6400MAH Li-ion Battery
Battery / Run Time (up to) about 4~6 hours
Power Device Type AC Adapter
Voltage required 100/240V
Miscellaneous / Color Silver
Dimensions / W x D x H 170.mm(W) x 270.0mm(D) x 16.mm(H)
Net Weight 0.68kg
Performance
Processor Type ARM 11
Processor Clock Speed 1GMHz
Processor Model Infotmic X220
Cache Memory / Type I-Cache
Cache Memory / Installed Size 2M
RAM / Technology DDR 2
RAM Installed Size 512MB
Display Diagonal Size 10.2 inch
Max Resolution 1024 X 600
Display Technology Resistive touch screen
Graphics Type Integrated Graphics
Graphics Model Support 1080P
Storage and Expansion
Hard Drive Type NAND Fast Flash
Hard Drive Capacity 4GB
Hard Drive Spindle Speed NAND Fast Flash
PCMCIA Expansion Support 16GB MAX
Communications
Net Connection
Fast Ethernet
Wireless Connection
Wifi
Wireless Protocol 802.11 b/g
Support Format
Video RM/RMVB,DAT,MPG,VOB,MP4,
AVI/MK,TS,FLV,WMV,MOV
Audio MP3,AAC,AAC+,EAAC+,
WMA,WMA PRO,RA
Picture JPG, GIF, BMP ,PNG
Ebook TXT(Support TTS reading function)
Input/Output Connectors
Ports
2 x USB
1 x Output HDMI
1 x SD slot
1 x DC jack
1 x Ethernet Jack
Digital Zorro said:
Hello i bought a Flytouch 5, I'm wondering what people know about this tablet.
And also i like to learn here if it's possible to change the Android version to one that are around here.
I'm not really happy with the pre installation that came from the manufacturer. It works but i know it can be better.
I would be really happy with any info what is out there about this tablet.
Info from tablet.
Model Number: YOSPAD
Android Version: V2.3 2011-07-17(001112)
Kernel Version: 2.6.32.9 [email protected] #216
Build Version:FR858
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Hi, I have the same one since a week ago. Unfortunatelly I updated it with another Android OS and now I don't have WIFI. May I ask you if you are still on the original firmware to send me the file wpa_supplicant.config? Or if you have the original ROM it will the best way if you can send me the link to download it. Thanks.
teddy_irish said:
Hi, I have the same one since a week ago. Unfortunatelly I updated it with another Android OS and now I don't have WIFI. May I ask you if you are still on the original firmware to send me the file wpa_supplicant.config? Or if you have the original ROM it will the best way if you can send me the link to download it. Thanks.
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Yes i still have the original firmware installed.
I really like to help you solve your problem. How i do get the "wpa_supplicant.config" File from the tablet?
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Yes i still have the original firmware installed.
I really like to help you solve your problem. How i do get the "wpa_supplicant.config" File from the tablet?
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Thank you for your answer! Is your device rooted? Because only if it's rooted you can go to the folder where the file is. Or maybe you have the ROM? That will be the best way if you have the ROM to send it to me. Or to ask your reseller to send it to you? By the way where did you buy it from? That might help me to obtain the original firmware.
Thanks
teddy_irish said:
Thank you for your answer! Is your device rooted? Because only if it's rooted you can go to the folder where the file is. Or maybe you have the ROM? That will be the best way if you have the ROM to send it to me. Or to ask your reseller to send it to you? By the way where did you buy it from? That might help me to obtain the original firmware.
Thanks
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How is the folder named? Let me look in to that first, i don't think the site allows direct company names that sell this product.
I'm surprised about the low info here on this tablet.
Maybe new info i found will help, it's also known as superpad.
And I'm sure it's no fake. Google it. I will not advertise here.
Still need some good info and answers.
Send from my Flytouch 5. (Mercury)
I bought one of these chunks of crap, it ran for 24 hrs now it won't boot it had newer yospad firmware but I can't remember the exact build cause it won't boot now. What I need to know is how to do a hardware reset, not the little reset button it just restarts it or another yospad rom.
Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks
Sent from my V9 using Tapatalk
Found out how to hard reset this chunk of gold and its good now
Peace
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richarddwyer10 said:
I bought one of these chunks of crap, it ran for 24 hrs now it won't boot it had newer yospad firmware but I can't remember the exact build cause it won't boot now. What I need to know is how to do a hardware reset, not the little reset button it just restarts it or another yospad rom.
Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks
Sent from my V9 using Tapatalk
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I see you already found it...This for the people who still don't know it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyWTEr2NeDo
I think Gingerbreak might of bricked this but now this is running I'm reluctant to try again. Have you rooted you're yospad yet?
I've been sent the latest firmware from the supplier as well as the flash player file if you want it
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Upgrade file for YosPad
How were you able to upgrade the firmware and flash file on your YosPad ?
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How were you able to upgrade the firmware and flash file on your YosPad ?
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Yes, i'm interested in that too.
Yes format SD card put Fw update on SD and turn power on and it will flash itself. Btw use z4root to root this because it is fake back ported 2.3 in other words its 2.2
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Who the hell gives names to this devices .. ? Flytouch 5 ? zomg!
this is the ONLY company that has the Infotmic SoC available for implementing into tablets:
http://www.shuoying.com/global/index.asp
http://www.shuoying.com/global/Product.asp?/3.html (tablet page)
I Know that, cause I personally visited the head of Infotmic SoC design (Shenzhen) and ShuoYing CEO, also in Shenzhen (Infotmic HQ is from Shanghai)
If there is any other tablet with "Flytouch" design, then they are tempered from the original tablet made by Shuoying, or they are so wild that it is really a mystery of it's origin.
My guess is that those are regular FT2 (since all have the same CPU) tweaked by some wild chinese people, Kernel and OS, and RAM/ROM
not to all - dont buy tablets from companies that dont show up in 1-2 hours search. You'll end up with tablet that someone assembled by hand and a screwdriver, and most probably extremely bad OS.
flashing rom on yospad
Use only Z4 to root the yospad. Can someone leave link for fw flash for yospad
Igoritza said:
Who the hell gives names to this devices .. ? Flytouch 5 ? zomg!
this is the ONLY company that has the Infotmic SoC available for implementing into tablets:
http://www.shuoying.com/global/index.asp
http://www.shuoying.com/global/Product.asp?/3.html (tablet page)
I Know that, cause I personally visited the head of Infotmic SoC design (Shenzhen) and ShuoYing CEO, also in Shenzhen (Infotmic HQ is from Shanghai)
If there is any other tablet with "Flytouch" design, then they are tempered from the original tablet made by Shuoying, or they are so wild that it is really a mystery of it's origin.
My guess is that those are regular FT2 (since all have the same CPU) tweaked by some wild chinese people, Kernel and OS, and RAM/ROM
not to all - dont buy tablets from companies that dont show up in 1-2 hours search. You'll end up with tablet that someone assembled by hand and a screwdriver, and most probably extremely bad OS.
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I think your completely right there.
I use it for a remote control know.
Thanks for the input btw.
Digital Zoro - im sorry for your failed tablet device.
On the other hand - I find the FT2 design to be the best tablet design ever. it obviously lacks the fine finish, and better materials, but - 10 inch wide tablet, with every god damn port there is - pure win.
I saw the "actual" FT3 in Infotmic Shenzhen, and it looks awesome - capacitive screen, ARM Cortex A8 based infotmic SoC (about time dudes, you are sooo late) .. dont know why isnt out yet, cause all those named "FT3" dont have same specs as the one I saw.
Igoritza said:
Digital Zoro - im sorry for your failed tablet device.
On the other hand - I find the FT2 design to be the best tablet design ever. it obviously lacks the fine finish, and better materials, but - 10 inch wide tablet, with every god damn port there is - pure win.
I saw the "actual" FT3 in Infotmic Shenzhen, and it looks awesome - capacitive screen, ARM Cortex A8 based infotmic SoC (about time dudes, you are sooo late) .. dont know why isnt out yet, cause all those named "FT3" dont have same specs as the one I saw.
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My Flytouch 5
The design is not really bad and i like that it has the rj-45 port.
The screen I find bad. No multitouch and slow reaction when touched.
Its thick and heavy to hold.
Flytouch 5 should have GPS build in, but it doesn't.
The Flytouch 2 3 4 5 are all the same design. On one moment it lost the second mini sd slot.
Is this only with the fake ones?
No, they are all faulty. the forementioned Shuoying company makes crapy tablets
I took for bussines 30 units the first time around, and I still have 6 broken units. others had flaws, mostly of how they are assembled - everything is sticking out, and such. USB/SD slots die more often than you could imagine.
buttons are the biggest problem - they are not glued in & soldered - they are JUST soldered. so the only thing that holds them into place is Tin (Sn) and we all know how that is firm and solid
oh, there is also a screen problem - there are 3 types of ZIF wire-to-board connector types for the screen, so if you ever need a screen replacement - dont even think about it.
the best assembled chinese tablet is from a company Utopia, in my expirience. you can find them by the name "imx515" A8 or A10 tablet. it turns out that solutions for assemble is better than most of the branded companies.
Hi,
I've almost made decision to buy 101 gen8 for my girlfriend as a first (budget) tablet, but just wanted to ask for your opinion. Especially for specific issues/limitations that gen8 might have as opposed to G9.
I had 101 G9 for a couple of days for testing and we liked it. But it's a more expensive option and not really offering that much more I think. To sum up differences:
1. On G8 real-use speed (processor) should be fine, not much worse than G9 I hope
2. screen not much worse according to reviews ? (apart from the angles which are told to be much worse)
3. one less usb port in G8, not a big issue (the G8 port should work with 3G stick too I presume)
4. no GPS in G9, not that needed here too
5. android version and ram available- and this might be an issue as only ICS might be available and not officially I guess -what are the clear advantages of honeycomb over froyo? I still don't know..
6. flash support- on G9 it generally worked in websites, on gen8 I'll have to mess with it I guess and the result will still be worse ? Is it a different flash version or just less working due to system ?
7. firmware/rom issues - I read in some posts there were some unresolved issues couple of months ago in G8. What is the current state of buggy-ness there considering newest updates? :/
8. anything else? battery performance looks to be about the same..
Thanks
G9 is much better, at least for me...
I had a 101 Gen8 for about 1 Year, and now I have a Gen9 80, and for me it is much better :
- G9 CPU has 2 Cores, G8 only 1
- Screen is much better
- My USB Host Port on G8 was broken after 1 Month, this happens a lot (read Forum), 3G on G8 works if you install UrukDroid, not in Stock Rom (Drivers missing)
- All G9 has GPS
- Android 3.2.1 is better for tablet, and in real Live it's true
- On my G8 101, I never had Deep Sleep, that means my Battery drains fast in Standby. That was the biggest Issue for me and the reason why I changed.
On G9 I have Deep Sleep
Have Fun...
Nicusasch
yep, I saw these reports about usb. does it mean the hardware just stopped working ? what about your experiences of the warranty service of Archos ?
regarding the deep sleep I saw that in 2.4... (I think) firmware update it was finally working, or not ?
with new gen8 firmware
the Archos 3g dongle working on 101 gen8
yes the USB Host stops working, nothing happens on plug in USB Device.
My Last G8 Firmware was 2.4.80, and with this no Deep Sleep.
Remark : with the Cyanogen Mod from AOS, deep sleep is working, but in the Beta there are other Issues.
For a Month ago I decided to contact Archos Support about my two Issues (USB and Deep Sleep), I wrote the an Email and no arnswer until today
My Lucky was that I bought it by Amazon, I send the Device to Amazon and after 3 Days I became the Full Money Back. Since this, I am a big Fan from Amazon
With this Money I bought my new Gen 9 80...
Ciao
Nicusasch
przemke said:
yep, I saw these reports about usb. does it mean the hardware just stopped working ? what about your experiences of the warranty service of Archos ?
regarding the deep sleep I saw that in 2.4... (I think) firmware update it was finally working, or not ?
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usb died on my 101 as well. I mainly use it for surfing, so haven't sent in for warranty support yet. To get an RMA for your device it is best to call, as they are very slow responding to mail.
Screen on Gen 9 is way better than Gen 8 101. Also, unless rooted, there is a limit on the apps partition in Gen 8, so if you want to install a lot of apps and don't want to root, you may run up against this. I am not a heavy apps user, but I did run up against this limitation. No apps limitation, in gen 9.
Also, more RAM on Gen 9. Browser on Gen 8 frequently shuts down if you have too many pages open.
The gen 8 is still a good device for the money, but does have some limitations. Btw, I have the Gen 9 80, not the 101
OK can you just clarify what's the situation with flash support on gen8 ? is it working fine on websites after installing/upgrading to what is needed ?
przemke said:
OK can you just clarify what's the situation with flash support on gen8 ? is it working fine on websites after installing/upgrading to what is needed ?
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Flash 10.3 works best on my gen8. However it is very stuttery when trying to play video from amazon. Flash 11 is worse. I am using flash 11 on my gen 9 and movies play much smoother.
You tube app on gen8 works fine.
You might look at http://forum.archosfans.com/index.php.
Now I'm confused. there's a problem with availibility locally with 101 gen8 and I found out about arnova 10 g2 (or 10b g2 which seems only different externally and weighs more) - these have 1ghz ARM like 101 but 512mb are told to be generally fast with 2.3stock and can play full hd
also may have better screen (IPS?). downsides are lack of bt and hdmi, but these are not that needed in my case
Not sure about battery life, not much detailed reviews on 10 G2 found
(Concerning emails to archos) Just send the mail twice, or 3 times and they will answer quickly, at least that's my experience with contacting them...
przemke said:
Now I'm confused. there's a problem with availibility locally with 101 gen8 and I found out about arnova 10 g2 (or 10b g2 which seems only different externally and weighs more) - these have 1ghz ARM like 101 but 512mb are told to be generally fast with 2.3stock and can play full hd
also may have better screen (IPS?). downsides are lack of bt and hdmi, but these are not that needed in my case
Not sure about battery life, not much detailed reviews on 10 G2 found
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Did you see it in real ? I'd suggest to try to see all models running before taking a decision. G2 is IPS, but I've seen one and it appeared poor quality to me, certainly not equivalent to Samsung/Motorola or even Acer
I didn't have the 101 gen8 at the same time to compare, but in my memory they feels about the same quality.
my personal feeling regarding screen quality is: Gen9 > 70 Gen 8 > 101 Gen8, Arnova G2.
Regarding processing power, don't take ARM and GHZ value as a criteria. All of them are ARM, and GPU / # of cores / SOC (I'd say in this order for Android) are more interesting criteria.
Memory is a very important criteria, 512 MB memory is good, the 256 of Gen8s are a bit low.
TjaXanK said:
(Concerning emails to archos) Just send the mail twice, or 3 times and they will answer quickly, at least that's my experience with contacting them...
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I've also received quite fast responses but it seems me and the (I guess french) party on the dark side kinda did not get a point together )
Released today, these are flying off the shelves at Tesco.. Huge push for them from Tesco.. Built by Archos
RK3188 processor (i think)
Great spec and a very solid tablet.. I've bought two of them...
Specifications:
7" 1440 x 900 HD screen
Android Jellybean 4.2.2
16GB storage which can be expanded to 48GB with microSD cards.
1GB RAM
Quad-core 1.5GHZ processor
9 hours video battery life (Conditions may vary dependent on video format and content, audio volume, screen brightness and processor load)
Micro-HDMI port
Bluetooth 4.0, GPS
Dual band Wi-Fi for a more stable connection
Access to over a million apps via Google Play™
Comes in 4 colours: black, blue, red, purple
Wi-Fi only
Sleek, high-quality design, with a durable, matte, soft-touch back for better grip
Scratch resistant touch screen
'Getting started' app that offers tips and guidance
Can we have its own forum ? I think it will probably warrant it in a few weeks time..
jonoathome said:
Released today, these are flying off the shelves at Tesco.. Huge push for them from Tesco.. Built by Archos
RK3188 processor (i think)
Great spec and a very solid tablet.. I've bought two of them...
Specifications:
7" 1440 x 900 HD screen
Android Jellybean 4.2.2
16GB storage which can be expanded to 48GB with microSD cards.
1GB RAM
Quad-core 1.5GHZ processor
9 hours video battery life (Conditions may vary dependent on video format and content, audio volume, screen brightness and processor load)
Micro-HDMI port
Bluetooth 4.0, GPS
Dual band Wi-Fi for a more stable connection
Access to over a million apps via Google Play™
Comes in 4 colours: black, blue, red, purple
Wi-Fi only
Sleek, high-quality design, with a durable, matte, soft-touch back for better grip
Scratch resistant touch screen
'Getting started' app that offers tips and guidance
Can we have its own forum ? I think it will probably warrant it in a few weeks time..
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This tablet has a 'T' icon on the lower left corner of the screen. I have no knowledge of Android but would it be possible to install a 'clean' version of Android to remove the Tesco link? If so, would it still recognise the GPS which is the primary reason for wanting this tablet ?
TIA Paul
Just bought one myself. Had a few HTC phones, tinkered with my first windows ROM (old version) with xda guides so have come looking for a guide to rooting. But not much when searching for hudl so my guess is to start there.
Sent from my Hudl HT7S3 using xda app-developers app
Modaco has a bit of activity in relation to these (including rooting guides) - have a look over there
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
matchworker said:
This tablet has a 'T' icon on the lower left corner of the screen. I have no knowledge of Android but would it be possible to install a 'clean' version of Android to remove the Tesco link? If so, would it still recognise the GPS which is the primary reason for wanting this tablet ?
TIA Paul
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Pop over to Modaco and get the edited systemui. It has removed the T icon.
You can also find CWM there
How can I get into flash mode to install Robs custom Rom?
Thanks in anticipation
John
johnsiddle said:
How can I get into flash mode to install Robs custom Rom?
Thanks in anticipation
John
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HI John,
I'm probably late to the party, but the instructions for flashing my custom ROM are linked from here: https://github.com/remay/tmf-hudl/wiki If you're still having problems with it then start a discussion here: https://github.com/remay/tmf-hudl/discussions
Rob.
TigerRob said:
HI John,
I'm probably late to the party, but the instructions for flashing my custom ROM are linked from here: https://github.com/remay/tmf-hudl/wiki If you're still having problems with it then start a discussion here: https://github.com/remay/tmf-hudl/discussions
Rob.
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THanks Rob, I did find a link somewhere and managed to re-flash the tablet eventually, I think I got a bit confused over the instructions, but someone sorted me out.
Thank you for the info.
Take care and stay safe.
John
Hi,
In case anyone is looking for clear instructions on how to overcome the problem after a factory reset of the Tesco Hudl 1 & 2 you will find them here (works for Hudl 2 as well). Use a date between 27 June 2019 and 26 June 2020 :
HUDL bricked after factory reset and how to fix it - Hey Munky!
I did a factory reset on my HUDL and bricked it. Here's a quick step-by-step guide on how to unbrick it after a factory reset.
www.heymunky.co.uk
Or the same with pictures but remember to use a date between 27 June 2019 and 26 June 2020 :
Rob's stuff - Hudl - Fix
Update 23 May 2023: This mechanism for recovery of a factory reset Hudl 1 no longer works. Due to the Tesco server at https://device.tesco.mobile.com/ no longer responding correctly to requests this technique no longer works and will fail after Step 18. As far as I know my Custom ROM is now the
rob.themayfamily.me.uk
(If this date solution ever fails then another option is to create a new user in the settings menu and reboot into it.)
Post if it works for you
Hi guys,
I have a bunch of these tablets available and they're quite useful - the only hitch is that the company selling them has no idea what they are or what they're capable of. So what I'm trying to do is identify exactly what tablet this is so that I can figure out what roms might work etc.
It's based on the RK3188 chipset so that's fine as rockchip are pretty decent for firmware etc - I just want to make sure I get the right stuff.
I can adb into it and managed to dump all the info for it: Wpq0qfby (pastebin)
The homepage_base url points to Aurus Electronics but the only 10" device there isn't quite the same - the camera is different as are the specs and the button layout.
It most closely resembles this: PIPO-M9-Tablet-Resolution-Android on amazon but again, although it has the metallic back plate, the button layout and so on are different.
It is most likely a China based knock off. As for roms you will be hard pressed as there is no kernel source for these devices and most of the time they don't even have the hardware they claim they do.
I have bought a dongle and discovered it does not have the usual RK SoC , instead it has an Allwinner A10. The pcb is red, it has the SoC, flash, sram, some voltage regulators and a push button and a led. Does anyone have any idea where to get firmware roms for this dongle? The stock firmware is very bad. Dlna barely works. Miracast disconnects immediately after connection.
@an31415 people would need the name and model number to stand a chance of helping you.
I think the best you could hope for is firmware from another identical device sold under a different brand name.
if you were able to try this you'd still need to have the original firmware on hand in case it didn't work.
3mel said:
@an31415 people would need the name and model number to stand a chance of helping you.
I think the best you could hope for is firmware from another identical device sold under a different brand name.
if you were able to try this you'd still need to have the original firmware on hand in case it didn't work.
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Thanks @3mel for your reply. The product box says "HDMI Dongle Wifi Display Receiver" and on the dongle it is written "Anycast". This is one of the many clones you can by on Aliepxress. I was hoping it's one with an RK cpu, but after cracking it open I found out it has an Allwinner A10 cpu. I searched high and low on internet to find and alternative firmware for it because the current one is crap. I'll try to attach some pictures here of the PCB, maybe somebody can identify it and point me in the right direction.
But how do I attach picture? Can junior members do it ?
More info: the dongle PCB is red and has a label, SP-X11-V2.0, and the name of the Wifi access point it creates is SP-xxxxxx, where the Xs are random hex digits.
The Wifi addon pcb is green and has no markings. The wifi chip is a well known Realtek that is found in all other similar products.
if you inbox me the AliExpress link I will post it here for you, that's probably the best way for anyone to identify it.
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/4001025810891.html
I received the variant in the colorful box(not the blue ones) and it does not say M2 nor M4 on the box. The product description says it has an AM8252 cpu, but it's not true. I guess the only way to id it is to post pictures of the pcb.
https://youtu.be/uXgBrT6J_Ew
the chips aren't the same as yours but does the board look similar ?
being honest I wouldn't get your hopes up, it's a cheap clone / copy of a chromecast. it's not going to be supported that well, they've already sold you something that doesn't match their product description. take it for what it is and learn that you get what you pay for... sorry.
The board is not similar, it has different ICs, different layout, different color. But the plastic enclosure is identical, except for the venting holes on the back, which are bigger on mine. This case copies the Chromecast (first generation), so people expect it to be a Chromecast clone. It isn't, but it does serve a similar purpose
The date on the PCB is 2019.10.10, fairly recent. I expect a new wave of clones have hit the market, disguised as already established products, but based on a different SoC. The only problem is their firmware is even less stable than the old ones, so I guess other people, not just me, are looking for solutions.
some of those people looking need to be devs.
Yup. Or anybody with a similar but not identical A10 based board. Maybe we can spot different fw versions in the wild
A small update if anybody is interested. I've connected the board via usb to my laptop (running linux mint). Doing this while keeping the button pressed will put the board's bootloader in some sort of firmware update mode. Running lsusb will show it as an usb device : "Bus 001 Device 066: ID 1f3a:efe8 Onda (unverified) V972 tablet in flashing mode". Of course this is not an Onda tablet, but it certainly has an identical SoC, thus the misidentification of the usb device.
Googling for this string I randomly found out there are some people called the sunxi community that strive to create a linux kernel and toolchain for these Allwinner devices, and they have done it quite successfully.
There are many custom firmwares for tablets, tv boxes and mini PCs that are based on the allwinner SoC. It seems this miracast hdmi device is just a trimmed down mini PC. It certainly runs pure linux, no Android, because its ram and flash are much smaller than what I found in the specs of any android devices.
So the question is: does any body have any knowledge of the existence of such a linux based firmware for this miracast board ? I'll go ask the sunxi people also.