Looking for some Dash Charger cables...I am wondering if anyone knows any that are a bit cheaper than OnePlus's site? hoping to find one that's a bit longer than 100cm. Maybe 6ft?
I ordered one in Aliexpress, if you ping me in a week or two I will be able to tell you whether it really supports DaSH
This one is good, but it's 1m length.
I've just receive this one, exactly the same as the official, haven't see any difference.
Voltage and Ampere values are fine too (tested with Ampere app).
Got this one at 1.5m: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...ast-Quick-charging-data-sync/32716728181.html
Been working fine for proper Dash Charge.
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Got this one at 1.5m: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...ast-Quick-charging-data-sync/32716728181.html
Been working fine for proper Dash Charge.
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Working fine here. Please use initiative.
It seems dangerous to use non official cable don't you think ? If one day anker or any other well known brand made one i will go for it but i don't trust aliexpress
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It seems dangerous to use non official cable don't you think ? If one day anker or any other well known brand made one i will go for it but i don't trust aliexpress
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Why would you think so? The original ones are made in China, so I really don't see a difference. It's a cable, not exactly rocket science. As long as the wires are thick enough. 4A will be fine. Even if you get a fake or badly made one, the phone will not be able to dash charge, or the wire will get pretty hot. All easily identifiable and then dispose of crappy wire or just use it for data only.
No point spending more. I've one on the way from China for under 5 Usd. That's a few tries before I get to the price level of the brand name makers.
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Zenouzenou said:
It seems dangerous to use non official cable don't you think ? If one day anker or any other well known brand made one i will go for it but i don't trust aliexpress
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It's true only if you buy poor quality
Ampere & voltage are ok so...
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Got this one at 1.5m:
Been working fine for proper Dash Charge.
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Hello,
no problems with this cable? Is it safe?
Does anyone know this cheap cable?
https://www.tvc-mall.com/details/on...data-cable-1m-for-oneplus-3-sku10151025a.html
Go for amazonbasics type C cable from amazon !!
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Go for amazonbasics type C cable from amazon !!
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These aren't Dash compatible though.
Not voltage compliant - 3rd party/China chargers
debork said:
Got this one at 1.5m: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...ast-Quick-charging-data-sync/32716728181.html
Been working fine for proper Dash Charge.
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Take a look at the last screenshot. Note the Voltage value - IN RED.
While most electronics have a fair amount of 'slack' around voltages, it's usually like 4.8 to 5.2. That 4.3V is too low. You might be getting a charge, but I'm skeptical it's all three; safe, durable and performs on par.
Jus' sayin'.
I've just received the charger and cables from the following link. Charger is oppo branded, but it works the same as a dash charger. Tested the cables with the original charger and the original cable with the oppo charger.
Seems anything that is oppo vooc is essentially the same as dash. So just need to get it through your usual Chinese reseller.
https://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?id=536245344526&_ezgpid=20000004174482
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Take a look at the last screenshot. Note the Voltage value - IN RED.
While most electronics have a fair amount of 'slack' around voltages, it's usually like 4.8 to 5.2. That 4.3V is too low. You might be getting a charge, but I'm skeptical it's all three; safe, durable and performs on par.
Jus' sayin'.
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I'm almost certain this is the battery voltage itself, i.e. what you'd get a read from /sys/class/power_supply/battery/voltage_now. This is not the same as charger/cable voltage.
At any rate, here are Ampere readouts with my official OP5 dash charger, which you can see has almost identical voltages:
w/ official OP5 cable: https://i.imgur.com/Neb9u0u.png
w/ Aliexpress 1.5m cable: https://i.imgur.com/nZbkUO4.png
I do notice that the 1.5m runs slightly lower on peak amperage, maxed out around 3.2A vs 3.4A within the 50-70% battery range I was watching it in just now.
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I'm almost certain this is the battery voltage itself, i.e. what you'd get a read from /sys/class/power_supply/battery/voltage_now. This is not the same as charger/cable voltage.
At any rate, here are Ampere readouts with my official OP5 dash charger, which you can see has almost identical voltages:
w/ official OP5 cable: https://i.imgur.com/Neb9u0u.png
w/ Aliexpress 1.5m cable: https://i.imgur.com/nZbkUO4.png
I do notice that the 1.5m runs slightly lower on peak amperage, maxed out around 3.2A vs 3.4A within the 50-70% battery range I was watching it in just now.
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Interesting. Thanks for the SS. I certainly don't understand the 4.2V value. At 70% charged, I'd think it would be a bit higher. Perhaps in operation the VReg has to over-pull from the battery to step things up to nominal...
Musing: Does DASH include some kind of "smart charge" tech that uses the USB cable circuit to polls voltage at the charger, physically? Without that, then I surmise it's measuring the voltage it sees at the USB-->DC circuit IN the phone.
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Interesting. Thanks for the SS. I certainly don't understand the 4.2V value. At 70% charged, I'd think it would be a bit higher. Perhaps in operation the VReg has to over-pull from the battery to step things up to nominal...
Musing: Does DASH include some kind of "smart charge" tech that uses the USB cable circuit to polls voltage at the charger, physically? Without that, then I surmise it's measuring the voltage it sees at the USB-->DC circuit IN the phone.
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AFAIK most smartphone lithium-ion batteries have a nominal voltage around 3.8V, charging voltage around 4.25V.
As far as DASH/VOOC charging, there definitely is some 'smart charge' stuff going on in the charger itself, which is why I'm not as worried about the cable being 3rd party, but would never think of getting a non-OPO DSH or non-OPPO VOOC charger. I couldn't speak to exactly what it does though.
Wait, now that I think of it there was some row from a Google dev a year ago or so about the proper resistor rating in 'safe' USB C cables...
Edit: https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/how-to-find-safe-usb-type-c-cables ok this seems to say the danger with USBC cables is around having charging sources like laptops that can't deliver enough amperage. Which fortunately shouldn't be an issue then if you just use it with the DASH charger...
Got my DASH car charger including a cable and it works as intended with DASH mode. The cable alone also properly works with my 100% genuine wall charger.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/DAS...nal-1-DASH-Type-c-data-Cable/32822825492.html
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I just picked up a certified Quickcharge 2.0 from puregear (Very nice charger). Problem is it still only pulls 1.25 amps an 6v (I charged it at 70%). Will it pull more at a lower percentage? Such as a full drain?
How did you meassure that ?
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How long does it take to charge from 0% to 100 % ?
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How did you meassure that ?
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How long does it take to charge from 0% to 100 % ?
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Used an Abovetec USB power meter. Took readings over 3 different high speed cords and both USB an Mag Charger. I don't have a zero to 100 time yet. I'm actually doing that today. I have got a periods of 1% increases in under 45 seconds.
Is it an in-line meter? The meter may be preventing the quick charge. Quick charge uses higher voltages (9v, 12v)
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Is it an in-line meter? The meter may be preventing the quick charge. Quick charge uses higher voltages (9v, 12v)
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This is the one I'm using. I'm not sure.
http://www.amazon.com/AboveTEK®-Vol..._sim_hi_5?ie=UTF8&refRID=0QDR2CCP4J092439J83V
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This is the one I'm using. I'm not sure.
http://www.amazon.com/AboveTEK®-Vol..._sim_hi_5?ie=UTF8&refRID=0QDR2CCP4J092439J83V
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Yeah quick charge 2.0 uses 9v so outside of what that meter is capable. Not sure how it would affect it though.
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Yeah quick charge 2.0 uses 9v so outside of what that meter is capable. Not sure how it would affect it though.
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Yea, it definitely limits it. When I ran the stock charger on the mag port vs my Z2 tablet with the Puregear QC it was no contest. My tablet charged faster than the phone. It's strange though, I've noticed two things.
1. The Mag port only works with certain USB's when paired with the QC.
2. The charging is progressive. The charge isn't instant, walk away an give it 4-5 mins an then it begins to seriously charge fast.
My Current setup.
QC 2.0 ~ http://www.pure-gear.com/shop-by-category/power/extreme-usb-wall-charger.html
NOTE: THIS DOES NOT WORK WITH THE STOCK MAGNETIC CHARGER
USB ~ http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0..._m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1NBJYPBZZRRZRVD7JBKC
This one I found does... That said it's doesn't charge "quite as fast" maybe a 5-10% difference. + I like the look an feel of the Pawtec, it's very solid.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HAAPREM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
So it can quick charge through the magnetic port?? Your observation about it taking a little while makes sense, I've read that it starts off at the standard 5v 1A, then kicks into the higher voltages if both devices negotiate properly.
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So it can quick charge through the magnetic port?? Your observation about it taking a little while makes sense, I've read that it starts off at the standard 5v 1A, then kicks into the higher voltages if both devices negotiate properly.
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You can but I don't think it charges as fast. That said I use that setup for night charging, as we all should. I think it's very important to use the mag port when time isn't essential in order to preserve the ports.
Also note, when I ran the puregear with the pawtec from zero (I ran the battery out 100% till death). It would not charge/register? I have no clue why but I suspect it's something with the charger registering something. Anyways as soon I charged it enough to turn it on with the stock charger, I then switched back to the QC and ran perfect.
Btw ~ The puregear and the motorola turbo charger are the same price, free shipping just tax for both. The puregear is super small unlike the turbo charger, it definitely looks cool as hell, especially with the pawtec.
Fantastic, thanks for all the info! I agree, I always use the mag port, I can count in single digits the times that I opened the flaps on my Z2 and my Z3 will be the same.
After ages I managed to find one place where I can order a SuperCharge original charger for P10 (Huawei HW-050450E00 SuperCharge)
However, the cable is not included. Will I get super charging with any cable?
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After ages I managed to find one place where I can order a SuperCharge original charger for P10 (Huawei HW-050450E00 SuperCharge)
However, the cable is not included. Will I get super charging with any cable?
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The original cable that came with the phone...Yes
High quality ones (20AWG or better)...Yes (this is what I use)
Cheap nasty ones off ebay....possibly, but doubtful. The phone may still say "Fast Charging" as the charger will identify itself to the phone as a Super Charger, but the phone won't be able to draw the same power as through a decent cable. And you risk damaging the cable and/or phone.
As in all walks of life, you get what you pay for!
Can you recommend me a cable which should work fine?
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The original cable that came with the phone...Yes
High quality ones (20AWG or better)...Yes (this is what I use)
Cheap nasty ones off ebay....possibly, but doubtful. The phone may still say "Fast Charging" as the charger will identify itself to the phone as a Super Charger, but the phone won't be able to draw the same power as through a decent cable. And you risk damaging the cable and/or phone.
As in all walks of life, you get what you pay for!
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Can you recommend me a cable which should work fine?
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I've used cables by Aukey, Anker & Tronsmart. All decent brands and cables, even if they don't mention an AWG figure. Plenty on Amazon. For example, this was the last pack I bought... https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01E4Z6OUG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
But they do sell them as single cables as well
You get quick charging with these, not super charging. Which is still ok, I know
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I've used cables by Aukey, Anker & Tronsmart. All decent brands and cables, even if they don't mention an AWG figure. Plenty on Amazon. For example, this was the last pack I bought... https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01E4Z6OUG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
But they do sell them as single cables as well
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You get quick charging with these, not super charging. Which is still ok, I know
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Well they certainly Super Charge my p10, both on a mains and car charger. Noticeably faster rate than when using the Fast Charger I got for my P9.
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My apologies, I linked to the wrong cables! For some reason I thought I was on the P9 forum & we were talking about fast charge, not Super Charge!
You are quite correct, the ones I linked to above are Fast Charging at max. Agreed though that this is still quick!
This is the Super Charge cable I bought.... https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B071XTBZGP
Thanks for the update, I was buying this, but for some reason they do not deliver to Romania...
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Well they certainly Super Charge my p10, both on a mains and car charger. Noticeably faster rate than when using the Fast Charger I got for my P9.
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My apologies, I linked to the wrong cables! For some reason I thought I was on the P9 forum & we were talking about fast charge, not Super Charge!
You are quite correct, the ones I linked to above are Fast Charging at max. Agreed though that this is still quick!
This is the Super Charge cable I bought.... https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B071XTBZGP
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Thanks for the update, I was buying this, but for some reason they do not deliver to Romania...
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Very few non "Original" Super Cables around at the mo, but this is one I'm probably going to get as well.... https://www.aliexpress.com/item/PZO...-Type-C-USB-C-For-Huawei-P10/32813218430.html
Worth trying for the price I think, only issue with AliExpress is the delivery time!
Already ordered one, should be here by July
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Very few non "Original" Super Cables around at the mo, but this is one I'm probably going to get as well.... https://www.aliexpress.com/item/PZO...-Type-C-USB-C-For-Huawei-P10/32813218430.html
Worth trying for the price I think, only issue with AliExpress is the delivery time!
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colthekid said:
Well they certainly Super Charge my p10, both on a mains and car charger. Noticeably faster rate than when using the Fast Charger I got for my P9.
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My apologies, I linked to the wrong cables! For some reason I thought I was on the P9 forum & we were talking about fast charge, not Super Charge!
You are quite correct, the ones I linked to above are Fast Charging at max. Agreed though that this is still quick!
This is the Super Charge cable I bought.... https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B071XTBZGP
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Thanks for finding this, I've wasted my time buying 2 different cables that don't work. The OEM cables are just too short.
Huawei Super Charge works using this cable:
https://banggood.com/Orico-AC5-5A-1...ick-Charge-and-Sync-Data-Cable-p-1162313.html
It must be 5A approved.
Anyone knows why the Huawei 5A SuperCharge won't work with an LG G6? I mean I plugged it in, the phone says it's fast charging, but if I start using it while charging the battery level goes down.
vicusbass said:
After ages I managed to find one place where I can order a SuperCharge original charger for P10 (Huawei HW-050450E00 SuperCharge)
However, the cable is not included. Will I get super charging with any cable?
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you need to get a 5A cable to have supercharge, anything below that will be fast charge or charging indication only
P10 supports two faster charging standards, I don't have the numbers in front of me but it can use both 9V with 2A and 5V with higher A than the usual 2. This is undocumented and I found out by accidentally using my old phone charger.
I now have a couple Qualcomm 3.0 fast chargers, the fast charger from my LG G5, and the One plus fast charger. Only the One plus charger indicates that the 6T is quick charging. My question is if the other fast chargers are still faster to charge this phone than a standard charger.
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I now have a couple Qualcomm 3.0 fast chargers, the fast charger from my LG G5, and the One plus fast charger. Only the One plus charger indicates that the 6T is quick charging. My question is if the other fast chargers are still faster to charge this phone than a standard charger.
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No, you need to use DASH Charger to have fast charging
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No, you need to use DASH Charger to have fast charging
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This link explains it well: https://m.androidcentral.com/dash-charge
They will charge faster than an old .5 amp you may have kicking around in a drawer. Realistically they will charge fast enough because how often do you need every drop you can get as quickly as possible? On the occasions you do need that you just take it to the dash charger and all is good. It's not just me saying that, there was a thread on a previous OnePlus device where someone else said what I just did and the agreement was unanimous. I couldn't argue it myself, I had found just the same to be true; I was typically in no hurry to charge the device and when I was I just made a point of going to the dash charger. I'm not sure what your use case is but if it was to go all dash all the time you may want to consider waiting a little and seeing how it plays out in use. I think you'll find your ok with just the one that came in the box or getting a second for the office or cart and calling it a day.
Someone not only do you need the charger you need the cable to? That wasn't explained in the article. Can you clarify?
marcmarshall said:
This link explains it well: https://m.androidcentral.com/dash-charge
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Someone not only do you need the charger you need the cable to? That wasn't explained in the article. Can you clarify?
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You will need both the official OnePlus cable and wall wort to get the full charging speed.
Are the chargers and cables for the Oneplus 5 and 6 the same as the 6T?
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Are the chargers and cables for the Oneplus 5 and 6 the same as the 6T?
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Yep, they’ve been using the same charger since the 3.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/accessories/ordinary-usb-cables-support-dash-t3838411
This post describes how the OPPO charger works with some Amazon cables to give the full 4A charge on a OP6. I've ordered the cables linked in the first post and an OPPO VOOC charger to try out, and keep for a spare / work setup for my 6T once it gets here today.
Where does it say if it's Dash Charging on the phone? With my Note 9 I can see if it's quick charging or not, depending on charger.
roaduardo said:
Where does it say if it's Dash Charging on the phone? With my Note 9 I can see if it's quick charging or not, depending on charger.
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You're probably not going to see the term "Dash Charge" anywhere,since OnePlus stopped using the phrase.
Whether they replaced it w/something else to indicate fast charging is anyone's guess (if there was any indication of Dash (fast) charging on previous OnePlus devices).
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You're probably not going to see the term "Dash Charge" anywhere,since OnePlus stopped using the phrase.
Whether they replaced it w/something else to indicate fast charging is anyone's guess (if there was any indication of Dash (fast) charging on previous OnePlus devices).
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Oh, true. I forgot about the EU legal stuff.
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You're probably not going to see the term "Dash Charge" anywhere,since OnePlus stopped using the phrase.
Whether they replaced it w/something else to indicate fast charging is anyone's guess (if there was any indication of Dash (fast) charging on previous OnePlus devices).
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You will see a lightning bolt in place for the battery icon when Dash Charging is active, and if you plug in the Dash charger while on the lock screen, it will also make a short blip noise with an animated lightning bolt. Standard chargers and/or cables will show the lightning bolt inside the battery icon. You can always look at the charger current using the *#808# menu though.
Wait does the cable really matters? from the article linked, looks like the tech is only in the adapter
It matters because if you don't use one designed for it you wont get Dash charging, and yeah, its irritating that we have drawers full of cables that we cant use. As to the question of how you can tell, it says "Rapidly charging" on the lock screen. You'll also notice the phone gets charged stupidly fast, that's a big tell.
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Yes it does. Pushing 4 amps to get more watts requires low resistance cables, otherwise the resistance will limit maximum wattage. With QuickCharge (instead of DASH charge) voltage is raised instead of current, mitigating the resistance problem.
For QuickCharge there also a handshake telling both the phone and charger that both devices support a certain charging standard. Only then current (or voltage) is raised above normal USB levels. Otherwise you would risk destroying devices which are not capable of fast charging.
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Yes it does. Pushing 4 amps to get more watts requires low resistance cables, otherwise the resistance will limit maximum wattage. With QuickCharge (instead of DASH charge) voltage is raised instead of current, mitigating the resistance problem.
For QuickCharge there also a handshake telling both the phone and charger that both devices support a certain charging standard. Only then current (or voltage) is raised above normal USB levels. Otherwise you would risk destroying devices which are not capable of fast charging.
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Tragic...I invested a lot into my PD chargers for my 2xl guess I need to update everything again
But do you? How often do you NEED dash charge? You can still use all the other charges, they just won't charge as fast, but that's not a bad thing if you are not in a hurry.
The Dash charger works the fastest, however my Quick Charge 3.0 car and wall chargers are still delivering 2 to 3 times more m to my OneTouch 6T then my Galaxy 8 (Rated for Quick Charge 2.0) ever took, that is using higher end usb-c cables but not the Dash cables.
The Highest I ever saw my s8 take was 1300 mA, this 6T will take 2300 mA from my QC 3.0 car charger and 3200 mA from my QC 3.0 wall charger, as long as the battery is under 70%. However, the Dash charger with Dash cable gets around 4800 mA but it seems to fill the battery at a more rapid pace then what I would expect for that amount of power going into it.
The Dash cables have more pins in them to deliver segmented power, at the proper voltage and amperage, to partitioned batteries simultaneously in the 6T without it causing your phone to heat up.
Hi guys.
Hope your all well,
I have bought a new Huawei Mate 20 Pro wanted one as soon as they can out. I have put mine in a book type case I find it easier to handle, I HAVE A QUESTION. Will the phone charge through the case OR would I have to keep taking the phone out of the case. Any help would be great appreciated, thank you all for your help and time.
JLB333
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Hi guys.
Hope your all well,
I have bought a new Huawei Mate 20 Pro wanted one as soon as they can out. I have put mine in a book type case I find it easier to handle, I HAVE A QUESTION. Will the phone charge through the case OR would I have to keep taking the phone out of the case. Any help would be great appreciated, thank you all for your help and time.
JLB333
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Wireless charging works through almost all cases so you should be fine.
Using my "Anker" wireless charger (here) and my "huawei smart view flip cover" (here) it charges no problem with case on. even with the case open flipped around to the back of the phone it still charges fine.
I guess it depends on how thick the case is or how good the charger is
Thank you
Thank you tweedie for your reply, I see the charger is a 10w charger, you are the only person to come back with positive feed back, my case is similar idea as yours, if you look on eBay brown/tan for a Huawei mate 20 pro, I'm thinking a 10-15w charger would be better than a cheaper low wattage charger.
Thank you again
JLB333
JLB333 said:
Thank you tweedie for your reply, I see the charger is a 10w charger, you are the only person to come back with positive feed back, my case is similar idea as yours, if you look on eBay brown/tan for a Huawei mate 20 pro, I'm thinking a 10-15w charger would be better than a cheaper low wattage charger.
Thank you again
JLB333
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If you want 15W charging, I woudn't choose anything different than Huawei's original charger. Not 100% sure, but I think generic 15W Qi isn't supported, the phone seems to trigger a lower wattage. Huawei is quite vague on this, it just states "you can charge at 15W using our SuperCharge technology, but Qi is supported as well", but doesn't state wether you can expect full speed if you go the Qi way. I got 2 supposedly 15W generic chargers and they were MUCH slower than the Huawei's ones I got after (and the phone was getting hotter still).
JLB333 said:
Thank you tweedie for your reply, I see the charger is a 10w charger, you are the only person to come back with positive feed back, my case is similar idea as yours, if you look on eBay brown/tan for a Huawei mate 20 pro, I'm thinking a 10-15w charger would be better than a cheaper low wattage charger.
Thank you again
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Yeah I only got a 10w charger as the original Huawei's charger last time I looked was 3x the price and wanted a desktop version rather then something flat. Wasn't too bothered about the time difference in charging as battery life are pretty awesome anyway! Maybe when the price comes down, then I'll get one. I do see the "green bubbling up" fancy animation, and charges up pretty quick. The Anker wireless charger I think is a good brand to some other cheapo Chinese brands.
As for the case, if its leather, I am assuming its pretty thick, but with my non scientific measurements, my charger handled at least 40 pages of glossy book/magazine paper that it can handle wireless charging! Not sure if further away from charger would make it less wattage getting through to the phone!
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does anyone know of an app to show me what wattage is coming through whilst charging? thanks
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does anyone know of an app to show me what wattage is coming through whilst charging? thanks
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It's not amazingly accurate but you could use something like Ampere - it will give the current charging amps & voltage. Watts = amps x volts so you can get an approximation.
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It's not amazingly accurate but you could use something like Ampere - it will give the current charging amps & voltage. Watts = amps x volts so you can get an approximation.
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cheers. will try that out. its at 100% at the moment, so will give it a couple of hours to lose some charge!
Usually if I'm looking for something I Google it. Type exactly what your looking for, you can always add the best, guaranteed it usually throws something up.
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It's not amazingly accurate but you could use something like Ampere - it will give the current charging amps & voltage. Watts = amps x volts so you can get an approximation.
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well, not sure if I will be disappointed, but it came up at 820mA and I see 4.327V, so based on that calculation it came up as 3548. I doubt thats 35W, so I am gonna guess that is 3.5W? not sure where the advertised 10W charger comes in!
(based at currently already charged of 96% full)
JLB333 said:
Thank you tweedie for your reply, I see the charger is a 10w charger, you are the only person to come back with positive feed back, my case is similar idea as yours, if you look on eBay brown/tan for a Huawei mate 20 pro, I'm thinking a 10-15w charger would be better than a cheaper low wattage charger.
Thank you again
JLB333
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I won't bother replying in future then. I gave you all the positive feedback you needed but I guess you wanted more answers to your question than you asked.
You answered your own question about the wattage so did not require a response.
Peace out
Yeah, 3.5W (although Ampere don't claim to be amazingly accurate)
There can be all sorts of issues with adapter compatibility. Did it come with an adapter? If not, does the adapter you're using support qc3.0?
I've got a supposed 15W charger so will test it when I get home.
well, I don't think I can recommend Anker wireless charger (here) - suppose to be 10W, but after using that Ampere program, it tells me that at most with the original Huawei adapter (though with a good quality usbB cable as Anker wireless isn't usbc), I got 910mA x 3.93v = 3.5w (with or without case - no difference). Quite poor compared to charging via the original adapter and usbC cable which gave me 3450mA x 4.0518v = 13.9w. I didn't expect wireless charging to match the same power as via wired, but did not expect that big a difference.
Pretty sure you are calculating it wrong. Ampere shows current charging amps in mA and the voltage of the battery - this will go up with the percentage of the battery.
I don't think there is any app that shows what is the voltage of the charge, just amperage.
Saying that, I can see that my both wireless chargers charge with similar current averaging 800mAh and max is around 1mAh. At the moment I have one connected to qc 3.0 18w adapter.
Connecting phone to the same adapter using usb c cable gives me...similar values, surprisingly.
iPad chargers (10W/12W) are very similar to qc3.0 charger, and Anker 6 port charger (allegedly 5v/2.4a max per port) is probably the "fastest" of the lot.
Connecting phone to stock 40W charger with any usb c cable (tried few 'generic' 2m cables) give me results in around 4000 mA.
I'm not an expert in the field so I don't understand if this means that both wireless chargers are charging at around 10w or the adapter (Anker single usb-a port) can't charge the phone with full speed.
duRin90 said:
Pretty sure you are calculating it wrong. Ampere shows current charging amps in mA and the voltage of the battery - this will go up with the percentage of the battery.
I don't think there is any app that shows what is the voltage of the charge, just amperage.
Saying that, I can see that my both wireless chargers charge with similar current averaging 800mAh and max is around 1mAh. At the moment I have one connected to qc 3.0 18w adapter.
Connecting phone to the same adapter using usb c cable gives me...similar values, surprisingly.
iPad chargers (10W/12W) are very similar to qc3.0 charger, and Anker 6 port charger (allegedly 5v/2.4a max per port) is probably the "fastest" of the lot.
Connecting phone to stock 40W charger with any usb c cable (tried few 'generic' 2m cables) give me results in around 4000 mA.
I'm not an expert in the field so I don't understand if this means that both wireless chargers are charging at around 10w or the adapter (Anker single usb-a port) can't charge the phone with full speed.
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ah right, that kinda makes sense. I thought that Volt mentioned in the app Ampere was the Volt coming in as its charging and not realise that its actually the Volt of the remaining battery. Obviously, my calculation is completely wrong. thanks for pointing that out!
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Fafner76 said:
If you want 15W charging, I woudn't choose anything different than Huawei's original charger. Not 100% sure, but I think generic 15W Qi isn't supported, the phone seems to trigger a lower wattage. Huawei is quite vague on this, it just states "you can charge at 15W using our SuperCharge technology, but Qi is supported as well", but doesn't state wether you can expect full speed if you go the Qi way. I got 2 supposedly 15W generic chargers and they were MUCH slower than the Huawei's ones I got after (and the phone was getting hotter still).
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Hi Fafner76.
Thank you so much for your advice regarding the Huawei Charger. I ordered a new one, got it for £20 which was a result as they at about £40. It arrived this morning, I placed my Huawei mate 20 pro with the case on it and hey presto it started charging straight away no prompting needed. So thank you again
JLB333
JLB333 said:
Hi Fafner76.
Thank you so much for your advice regarding the Huawei Charger. I ordered a new one, got it for £20 which was a result as they at about £40. It arrived this morning, I placed my Huawei mate 20 pro with the case on it and hey presto it started charging straight away no prompting needed. So thank you again
JLB333
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may I ask where did you get the Huawei wireless Charger for £20?
JLB333 said:
Hi Fafner76.
Thank you so much for your advice regarding the Huawei Charger. I ordered a new one, got it for £20 which was a result as they at about £40. It arrived this morning, I placed my Huawei mate 20 pro with the case on it and hey presto it started charging straight away no prompting needed. So thank you again
JLB333
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Hi Fafner 76
I did the charge On the huawei wireless charger and it works perfect with the case on and it charges at roughly as quick, its a result
I have seen many people complaining about their 27w Xiaomi charger with problem of not turbo charging, low charging current, overheat, dont work with 20w charger, and etc. And I one of the these guys too. I have ordered two times 27w loosepack charger from chinese online shop and all are fakes. They dont give me consistent turbo charging and dont charge faster than 18w! This pissed me off because there are so many loosepacks out there and the original ones comes from 20w wireless charging bundling box, from mi 9 chinese box, or from 27w charger with box packaging which none of that chinese online shop sell that, all only loosepack which high risk of counterfeits.
Yesterday I bought the 27w charger with box in my local online shop. The seller told me he got the charger from local store in china and bought it to my country. After the charger arrives i tested in and yeah finally I got the original one. I always get "charge turbo" whenever i charge and measurement in ampere App can reach 4800mA which I never get even 3000mA with 18w or that fake 27w one.
So I made a comparison video of those original vs fake charger. I hope it can help you guys who experienced same like me and want to find the original ones. Here is my youtube video link:
https://youtu.be/xx-P6BxZzkU
If you want to see video later, here is also attached the quick glance of my both orig and fake ones. They do have difference in printing quality. And the Ampere screenshot of original charger for reference.
Great. Where can you get the original one?
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Great. Where can you get the original one?
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I got it from someone who bought it from chinese local store.
If you want get the original one, you need to buy charger with official packaging box. Can be a bundle with 20w wireless, or standalone with box like i bought, but its very rare.
Specifically: aliexpress. Search the shop and see the feedbacks. Look for shop which can provide 20w wireless bundling in one box
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32976262381.html
I bought that bundle like 20 days ago, it should aerrive by next week at max.
But i got the "traveler charger" (Xiaomi 1A1C) which comes with a Usb Type C and Normal USB port.
Hopefully it charges correctly i will let u know but for now the bad comments i have read just say that they cannont turbo charge using the type C Port.
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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32976262381.html
I bought that bundle like 20 days ago, it should aerrive by next week at max.
But i got the "traveler charger" (Xiaomi 1A1C) which comes with a Usb Type C and Normal USB port.
Hopefully it charges correctly i will let u know but for now the bad comments i have read just say that they cannont turbo charge using the type C Port.
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Thats 30w charger right? I hope all these chargers are original. I will wait for your review
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Thats 30w charger right? I hope all these chargers are original. I will wait for your review
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Yes 30w if you use the type c connector or at least that what they claim.
But since max supported for our device is 27w it is kinda useless.
But nevertheless I will make sure to post here once I get it and try it
Hi
Can you get turbo charging with the wireless charger powered by the 1a1c 30w charger?
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Can you get turbo charging with the wireless charger powered by the 1a1c 30w charger?
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Nope, it wont work. 20W wireless is working only with MDY-10.
It is not true that the original is only in a transparent box. I got it without this transparent box and it works well.
Thanks for the great infos, I'll post again when I get my 27W charger I ordered from AliExpress!
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Nope, it wont work. 20W wireless is working only with MDY-10.
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Can your 30w charger turbo charge mi 9?
So, anyone has a link to a reliable and tested seller on aliexpress for the 27w charger?
Here's a post to a review of the original 27 W charger ordered from Alixepress. I saw his review on a German forum too. You can also see a screenshot from the Ampere app. Looks legit. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79569598&postcount=87
Direct link to Alixepress: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32974660297.html
You can also check reviews there, several people wrote that Charging Turbo works, you can also see it in their photos.
Personally, I've order the charger from here a week ago: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33001884969.html
Almost every photo review shows Charge Turbo, so hopefully it's true. I just have to wait until it arrives to try it out.
@arddy1, very nice post, a very detailed comparison. Thanks you!
I was convinced that mine was ok because I see "Charging Turbo" on the Mi9 every time I connect the charger. But looking to the charger details it actually matches the fake one you shown in your video. So I decided to perform some more tests.
- I tried to use a USB voltage/current meter but when I use it then I don't get "Charging Turbo" anymore, which means it blocks somehow some communication between the charger and the phone, could it be?
- in Ampere I can only get 2600mA, while using by cheap 2USD QC 3.0 charger I can get 3200mA;
- since this charger is effectively recognized by the phone with "Charging Turbo", I suppose the problem with the fake one is not the "protocol" or compatibility, but the amount of current it can send to the phone, what do you think?
The final test will be to perform a full charge with both my QC 3.0 and this one to see the difference.
My main concern now is: being a fake charger, is it safe to use it? may it damage the phone? What do you think?
I happen to have both with line and without, and both are working the same Both give turbo charge mode with cable and with wireless charger every time, i would never thought that one might be fake if haven't seen this post.
UPD. I checked were from i have ordered the original : https://www.aliexpress.com/store/3470060?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dazyZc0
I have got 27w+cable+20w wireless charger+eu plug, from that store and they came in one package. So i don't know if only the charger will be original. It was shipped ~10 days to Israel.
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I happen to have both with line and without, and both are working the same Both give turbo charge mode with cable and with wireless charger every time, i would never thought that one might be fake if haven't seen this post.
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But did you actually measure the current with Ampere? In my case it seems I also have a fake one but I always get turbo charge mode as well. However when I measured the actual current in Ampere App I can see that the original 18w charger gives more current/power to the phone than the 27w one.
If possible use Ampere to measure if and report the results.
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But did you actually measure the current with Ampere? In my case it seems I also have a fake one but I always get turbo charge mode as well. However when I measured the actual current in Ampere App I can see that the original 18w charger gives more current/power to the phone than the 27w one.
If possible use Ampere to measure if and report the results.
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Just measure the charge time in my case if i remember right, 27w charges the phone ~1 hour and charger witch came with phone i didn't measure exactly but i think it something like 1 hour 40 minutes.
As for Ampere it shows ~1500 Ma and ~4.5v on 90% battery level on both chargers and both cables witch came with the chargers. And yes in Israel we have 220-240v power supply, don't remember exactly but i think it's same as Europe. For 5 minutes that i have checked the phone charged to 92% level
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Just measure the charge time in my case if i remember right, 27w charges the phone ~1 hour and charger witch came with phone i didn't measure exactly but i think it something like 1 hour 40 minutes.
As for Ampere it shows ~1500 Ma and ~4.5v on 90% battery level on both chargers and both cables witch came with the chargers. And yes in Israel we have 220-240v power supply, don't remember exactly but i think it's same as Europe. For 5 minutes that i have checked the phone charged to 92% level
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You should measure it when charge is still below 50%, after that charging current starts to drop.
It might be the case yours is a very good fake charger
I will also compare charging times with mine and the. post the results in a couple of days.
Hello guys,
I bought and recieved this one https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33000669695.html
And it shows "Charge Turbo" as well as about 4700-5000ma using Ampere.
Hope it helps
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@arddy1, very nice post, a very detailed comparison. Thanks you!
I was convinced that mine was ok because I see "Charging Turbo" on the Mi9 every time I connect the charger. But looking to the charger details it actually matches the fake one you shown in your video. So I decided to perform some more tests.
- I tried to use a USB voltage/current meter but when I use it then I don't get "Charging Turbo" anymore, which means it blocks somehow some communication between the charger and the phone, could it be?
- in Ampere I can only get 2600mA, while using by cheap 2USD QC 3.0 charger I can get 3200mA;
- since this charger is effectively recognized by the phone with "Charging Turbo", I suppose the problem with the fake one is not the "protocol" or compatibility, but the amount of current it can send to the phone, what do you think?
The final test will be to perform a full charge with both my QC 3.0 and this one to see the difference.
My main concern now is: being a fake charger, is it safe to use it? may it damage the phone? What do you think?
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Phone showing charge turbo or not is not determined by the current. I have tested both mode in fake charger, the currents are almost same. It may be determined by that protocol or compatibility thing. When the cable is plugged in and your phone detects that charger is compatible, it will trigger turbo charging mode and allowing more currents to enter inside. But in fake chargers, although it have been already allowed, the charger hardware dont have capability to do that.
I can't test current using usb meter too because it caused the phone cant read the charger compatibility. So in the video i compare currents with app ampere. As long the voltage in app are about same, it can be compared.
About safe or not, i recommend you not to use it. The temperature in fake ones is noticeably higher when charging than the original, even the original has bigger output current.