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Hi all!
have been reading in this (awesome) forum for a while now. so first, thanks for the great work!
at the moment i own a ZTE blade with CM7 and its getting old. so i wanted to buy a new phone. sadly, all the new and great phones are massively big. i dont want to have to bua a manpurse so, the ray is one of the few phones that actually are small and where the community support (xda!) is great
the question is, is it intelligent/reasonable to buy a ray now? or should i wait? the xperia U is almost released and it has a dual core and nicer design (imo) but it also has a weaker battery and the worst part: no SD card slot.
as i want to use the phone as my mediaplayer as well, the 4gb of memory the U offers could be a bit of a pain.
so, my question:
is the ray that awesome that i should buy it now? or is there an alternative that you would recommend? what i expect from a phone:
small
nice screen resolution (>= 800x480)
reasonable battery
custom roms!
hope somebody can help me
IMHO, i would suggest you wait and see once Xperia U has been released and see it perform first.
if you are really sticking with the Sony brand and the listed specifications is what you prefer, the Xperia U is the closest one in comparison.
some downside (comparing it to ray) is the lower resolution camera 5MP, no SD card (4GB is not enough, at least 8GB or more), battery capacity is really low (not sure why?)
if i would choose my next Sony phone, I would go with the Xperia P.
Sony Experia U compared to Sony Ericsson Experia Ray
- better processor (dual core) and GPU (Mali400)
- no SD card slot
- lower quality camera
- smaller battery life
the decisive questions are
- how much better is the NovaThor U8500 CPU compared to Qualcomm Snapdragon SM8255 ?
- is the 8mpix ExmorR camera of Ray so much better than the simple 5mpix camera of U?
but even the NovaThor U8500 CPU is getting old...
so this is a hard decision, Experia Sola has the sd card but it will cost 50 euro more than Ray
here you can see Sola and Ray side by side: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9gO11MG6ss
future support for sola?
hi,
yes, the question is, how will the sola or U perform compared to the ray, because the ray is awesomely small.
this may be hard to answer, but would you think that it is likely that the Sola or U will get community support and custom roms like the 2011 xperia line?
the sola would be my fallback device. it is still reasonably small and has the sd slot. sadly a bad battery as well.
Derzis said:
Sony Experia U compared to Sony Ericsson Experia Ray
- better processor (dual core) and GPU (Mali400)
- no SD card slot
- lower quality camera
- smaller battery life
the decisive questions are
- how much better is the NovaThor U8500 CPU compared to Qualcomm Snapdragon SM8255 ?
- is the 8mpix ExmorR camera of Ray so much better than the simple 5mpix camera of U?
but even the NovaThor U8500 CPU is getting old...
so this is a hard decision, Experia Sola has the sd card but it will cost 50 euro more than Ray
here you can see Sola and Ray side by side: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9gO11MG6ss
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Camera quality cannot be said like this, it needs to be checked by comparing 2 photos.
Battery life needs to be tested also, as this information on websites are about phone in perfect conditions.
And how do you confirm that Mali400 is better than Adreno 205?
TheOneAndOnlyDude said:
yes, the question is, how will the sola or U perform compared to the ray, because the ray is awesomely small. this may be hard to answer, but would you think that it is likely that the Sola or U will get community support and custom roms like the 2011 xperia line?
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yes, of course and even more than the 2011 experia line
i think the 2012 experia line will be even more successfull with the community then the 2011 line
Someguyfromhell said:
And how do you confirm that Mali400 is better than Adreno 205?
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Mali400 is definitely better than Adreno 205, Samsung Galaxy S II uses the Mali400
"ARM's Mali-400 MP4 is the Fastest Smartphone GPU" http://www.anandtech.com/show/4760/arms-mali400-mp4-is-the-fastest-smartphone-gpufor-now
NovaThor uses a less powerfull version of Mali 400 than Samsung Galaxy S II
even Samsung I9070 Galaxy S Advance will use the same NovaThor 8500
but of course Mali400 and Adreno 205 are old now, in autumn new GPU will come Mali 604 vs Adreno 320
even Mali 604 is already old since it was announced in 2010 so in 2013 we get Mali 658
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5077/arms-malit658-gpu-in-2013-up-to-10x-faster-than-mali400
Buy Xperia Sola
Buy phone with 1GB ram, to be prepared for JB 4.1! None of those has 1GB.
mirkuma said:
Buy phone with 1GB ram, to be prepared for JB 4.1! None of those has 1GB.
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Xperia SX seems to be a real Xperia Ray successor: small & powerful. The problem is that international version is not announced yet. At the moment it's only available in Japan. But is probably worth waiting...
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Xperia Ray is the best smartphone, i'm the crispy display and far better battery backup. The phone was announced in 2011 and if you have never purchased it yet then i would like to suggest you Xperia U. Limitation with storage but good phone with looks and powerful configuration.
if i thinking about xperia U, i thinkings :
"is that too bad for a phone w/o sd slot?"
"how about future mod about this phone?" (like how can i backup my phone using CMW. but who knows....XDA devs are awesome)
"how far google can support this phone in the future?" (i believes that google will update this phone to JB)
For mostly users (dont really care about novathor,snapdragon or else), this may like some phone with best performance in its class (regarding from price n specs).
Xperia U's targeted for user whos like using cloudstorage more (the future ways) than natively sdcard.
USB OTG, dont forget that.
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andrasandhi said:
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"how far google can support this phone in the future?" (i believes that google will update this phone to JB)
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needless to say, updating Xperia smartphones is not google's bussiness, ya know?
Xperia Sola Is most convenient one to your option
also remember that XDA users and developers will move to 2012 line
and Ray is 2011 ,by the time this devices will lose attention
or ,I think It's best if you waited for Google 5 Devices
I think those will be great options ,also will have the top XDA support + Google support
Regards
Pixelado said:
needless to say, updating Xperia smartphones is not google's bussiness, ya know?
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Hu uh, i know buddy
Little miss explanations
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I have Xperia U and I can much better phone than 2011 series and also will get ICS with 3.0 kernel,so I would buy it.
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What's the best gaming phone under $200 that can run Most Wanted ?
(With or Without custom ROM)
If custom ROM is needed, please tell what phone and what ROM.
thanks be4!
Sony xperia ray
Short specs:
8 mp hd cam
1ghz proccesor
Xyz gpu ???
Hd screen
3.3 inch
Front cam
but you need an custom rom: forsakengb or an fast ics rom (iced bean),
An swap script: ctcear swap script
Kernel:ctcear's kernel (hes a genious)
Some build.prop optimasation,
New drivers for gpu and you have a nasa superphone
If you want links to the threads or more info about the phone, pm me
sony xperia ray
ics 4.0.4 rooted
stock rom
Xperia 2011, u got it
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Xperia 2011, u got it
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Fast and cheap and good quality
sony xperia ray
ics 4.0.4 rooted
stock rom
What about xperia x10 mini pro? is it any good for gaming?
Xperia Ray is a very good phone but I am afraid the Xperia X10 mini or minipro or the SE live with walkman will definitely preform better in gaming performances considering they have a HVGA display that will demand less power from the processor and the gpu. But yet again, the small screen(3.2'') is a fun killer. So I would recommend a bigger display device for gaming, if you want to have real fun. Go for Xperia U (best budget phone for gaming ) . It's got dual core 1ghz and mali 400 gpu, the price has also significantly reduced.
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raihan4 said:
What about xperia x10 mini pro? is it any good for gaming?
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No, it is too small and a 480p display
sony xperia ray
ics 4.0.4 rooted
stock rom
Yeah I'm confused between XU or XRay because XU have only 4GB and cannot use external microsd
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Okay I understand your problem bro. You needed a gaming phone So I mentioned the Xperia U. If you are a hardcore music lover then certainly the Xperia U is not for you. But but but, if you are aware of the USB on the go feature, it's very very useful for the Xp U. You can carry as many music and video files as you want and connect on the go. I have seen my friends do that. Comparing the gaming performances , the U is an ultimate winner.
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Xperia J with almost same specs and a 4 inch screen is a killer
I'd recommend Micromax Canvas HD that is A116 it's a phone under your budget with a qualcom quad core processor and five inch screen makes it ideal for gaming
Games like Asphalt Heat run without lag and glitches
Sent from my A116 using Tapatalk 2
Its below $200?
sony xperia ray
ics 4.0.4 rooted
stock rom
sak-venom1997 said:
Xperia J with almost same specs and a 4 inch screen is a killer
I'd recommend Micromax Canvas HD that is A116 it's a phone under your budget with a qualcom quad core processor and five inch screen makes it ideal for gaming
Games like Asphalt Heat run without lag and glitches
Sent from my A116 using Tapatalk 2
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I seriously don't at all recommend the Xperia J. Just take a look at the specs.
OS Android OS, v4.0.4 (Ice Cream Sandwich), upgradable to v4.1.2 (Jelly Bean)
Chipset Qualcomm MSM7227A Snapdragon
CPU 1 GHz Cortex-A5
GPU Adreno 200
What kind of gaming performance do you expect from the Adreno 200 GPU and a 1ghz Cortex A5...and that too with ICS running.
It will be able to run/start most of the games, but nothing will run smoothly.
But on the Canvas HD A116 part, I agree with you. This phone has got some serious power under the hood. Depends on the buyer, if he wants to go for a micromax phone or a branded phone.
satyarlenka said:
I seriously don't at all recommend the Xperia J. Just take a look at the specs.
OSAndroid OS, v4.0.4 (Ice Cream Sandwich), upgradable to v4.1.2 (Jelly Bean)
ChipsetQualcomm MSM7227A Snapdragon
CPU1 GHz Cortex-A5
GPUAdreno 200
What kind of gaming performance do you expect from the Adreno 200 GPU and a 1ghz Cortex A5...and that too with ICS running.
It will be able to run/start most of the games, but nothing will run smoothly.
But on the Canvas HD A116 part, I agree with you. This phone has got some serious power under the hood. Depends on the buyer, if he wants to go for a micromax phone or a branded phone.
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Ics on xperia 2011 works great
sony xperia ray
ics 4.0.4 rooted
stock rom
I also recommend you all xperia 2011.
Have lww and is great. Best will be xperia arc, arc s, ray or neo v. They all are cheap and runs most wanted, shadowgun, gta vice city lagless.
I can confirm that NFS:MW works like a charm on my Xperia Ray. You don't need a custom ROM or kernel, just a lot of free RAM. Before I rooted my phone, my RAM was pretty cluttered with apps like Facebook and Sony bloatware. After root, I managed to get around 150 MB RAM constantly, and MW works perfectly.
Faked Hardware Information in Antutu and android on tablet from Aliexpress
Hello Guys,
I Just bought some stuff from Aliexpress. last time a Cube t7 with Hardware MTK8732 and 2gm Ram and everthing is correctly like told me on aliexpress and in antutu and CPU z and aida64.
but now i bought this one ..
link to the hardware is not allowed =/
model t716 Android 5.1
Mt6752 fdd-tdd dual 4g Octa Core 64 Bit 2,0 GHz
Mali- t764
8,0 zoll( 16:10)
2560x1600 pixel
4gb ram
64 gb rom
sd card 64gb
front cam 5.0mp
back cam 13.0mp
Fake information in Android and Antutu =(
BUT it is mtk6735 4*1 ghz
16 gm rom 1 gb ram
1280*800 screen
can you tell me where i can change the specs to the real informations that i can use it as it really is and not with fake information?
i'm not allowed to put some links. that suxxx! -.-
can send screenshots and it's link from aliexpress. i need real help. i'm no n00b to android and hardware.
This is one of the things with using devices from there. They have modded software that lies about the hardware. Not really alot you can do. Without wiping the device and rebuilding the os from the ground up
I'm thinking about a new phone upgrading from Xperia SP.
But my dad has pre-paid (Vodafone Hungary).
There doesn't have a Xperia XZ and X Compact, and even X Performance. (i hate you, Vodafone Hungary), but has Xperia X, Xperia Z5, Z5C, Z3C. (i ingore low-mid range models like XA)
-Do you think this Xperia X better than Z5? (example benchmark, gaming, camera, but nope waterproof)
-Do you think this Xperia X worth upgrading from Xperia SP?
-Do you think it's little weak Snapdragon 650 with this little expensive in terms prices other phones? (A57 has two cores, it could have better a Snapdragon 652 has four cores A57)
-Or wait a new phones for skipping year? (like snapdragon 830 stronger chipset than snapdragon 820, but my Xperia SP is dying because slightly problems low RAM like FB messenger, FB app, ah please no Samsung, LG or Other phones because i don't like UI, Interface display)
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jenci8888 said:
I'm thinking about a new phone upgrading from Xperia SP.
But my dad has pre-paid (Vodafone Hungary).
There doesn't have a Xperia XZ and X Compact, and even X Performance. (i hate you, Vodafone Hungary), but has Xperia X, Xperia Z5, Z5C, Z3C. (i ingore low-mid range models like XA)
-Do you think this Xperia X better than Z5? (example benchmark, gaming, camera, but nope waterproof)
-Do you think this Xperia X worth upgrading from Xperia SP?
-Do you think it's little weak Snapdragon 650 with this little expensive in terms prices other phones? (A57 has two cores, it could have better a Snapdragon 652 has four cores A57)
-Or wait a new phones for skipping year? (like snapdragon 830 stronger chipset than snapdragon 820, but my Xperia SP is dying because slightly problems low RAM like FB messenger, FB app, ah please no Samsung, LG or Other phones because i don't like UI, Interface display)
EDIT: Moderator, please move to Q & A thread, sorry for accidentally selected the thread (if after moved thread then I'l remove this edit)
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- S650 isn't that weak. On paper it performs similar to a S808, and runs much cooler than a S810. In terms of gaming, it could run almost everything you throw at it on high settings (the rest are Tegra exclusives). 3GB RAM on a near-AOSP stock ROM will handle multitasking very well. Also, it doesn't heat up like the Z5 or M4 Aqua did. It was, like, 40°C after 2 hrs of Asphalt Xtreme and PSP emulator.
- IIRC the SP has 1GB of RAM. It is worth a jump, unless you wanna wait for another year.
iH8Ecchi said:
- S650 isn't that weak. On paper it performs similar to a S808, and runs much cooler than a S810. In terms of gaming, it could run almost everything you throw at it on high settings (the rest are Tegra exclusives). 3GB RAM on a near-AOSP stock ROM will handle multitasking very well. Also, it doesn't heat up like the Z5 or M4 Aqua did. It was, like, 40°C after 2 hrs of Asphalt Xtreme and PSP emulator.
- IIRC the SP has 1GB of RAM. It is worth a jump, unless you wanna wait for another year.
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-Yeah, but it shows video GTA SA and Asphalt 8 has sometimes FPS drops like 23-26fps, because it's Andreo 510.
S810 has Andreo 430 slightly faster loading time than Andreo 510 (S650).
-Yeah, But i'd wait until MWC february for new mid-range devices just like last year Xperia X was.
Also, thanks for reply, I been much thinking, because isn't worth the waiting loading time gaming and modern games with struggling Andreo 510. (Still rumored S830 with Andreo 540, it will probary Around 2017 October for flagship devices)
And future modern games for bigger graphics and RAM too. I'd say 4 years cycle is worth upgrade with less spending money. (Look my signature, because 3-5 year cycle upgrade a phone, plus after released phone 1-2 year ago is worth price like 260-550€ (approx.) than new released phones with overpriced like 700€~)
jenci8888 said:
-Yeah, but it shows video GTA SA and Asphalt 8 has sometimes FPS drops like 23-26fps, because it's Andreo 510.
S810 has Andreo 430 slightly faster loading time than Andreo 510 (S650).
-Yeah, But i'd wait until MWC february for new mid-range devices just like last year Xperia X was.
Also, thanks for reply, I been much thinking, because isn't worth the waiting loading time gaming and modern games with struggling Andreo 510. (Still rumored S830 with Andreo 540, it will probary Around 2017 October for flagship devices)
And future modern games for bigger graphics and RAM too. I'd say 4 years cycle is worth upgrade with less spending money. (Look my signature, because 3-5 year cycle upgrade a phone, plus after released phone 1-2 year ago is worth price like 260-550€ (approx.) than new released phones with overpriced like 700€~)
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Well, you should wait for new flagships to go on sale if you doesn't change your phone that often.
In my calculation, this X can still handle most of the things for the next 3 years. Gaming is not really a big problem. Big companies always optimize their games for a majority of devices, including low-end ones.
Asphalt Xtreme still runs well on the first-gen Xperia Z.
New chipsets may sound... snappy, but it isn't too strong. (My 2011 PC still outperform both the S820 and the A10 Fusion). In the case of PC ports like GTA... why not play it on a damn PC already?
Hello! I just bought a new Asus zenfone max M2 3/32Gb model and when I checked ram it shows only 1.6Gb not 3Gb and the phone is lagging a bit. How can I solve this? Thank you.
Where you saw there is 1.6 GB RAM ?
Maybe you saw the free RAM available at that moment