I don't know whether I should wait for the rn4 or go for the rn3. I'd really love the helio x20, but I don't think that would come to India cause of the lawsuit. Hypothetically, if it is launched, how would the software development be? Would it get many Roms? Cm especially? My second question is, if the rn4 comes with sd 652, it'll be like trading 3 mp of the rear camera in the rn3, for 2 cores in the rn4! Although, I'm not really into photography, that 16 mp cam does sound nice so do the 2 extra cores really make a difference, especially in gaming?
I've got the same question about the rom development for mediatek. I've used cm nearly for 2 years and I'll be switching to miui. It doesn't matter if there won't be cm for the rn4 mtk. Miui is good and I'm willing to do this change.
Being a photography amateur, i can tell you that mp doesn't do a difference. It's the sensor that counts. If the rn4 has a better image quality, go for it. Gaming depends on the gpu mostly and the adreno is more powerful than the mali. Will gaming be better with the 2 cores? I can't tell you.
Btw if that helps you, I'm buying the rn4 mtk insead of the rn3p.
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I don't know whether I should wait for the rn4 or go for the rn3. I'd really love the helio x20, but I don't think that would come to India cause of the lawsuit. Hypothetically, if it is launched, how would the software development be? Would it get many Roms? Cm especially? My second question is, if the rn4 comes with sd 652, it'll be like trading 3 mp of the rear camera in the rn3, for 2 cores in the rn4! Although, I'm not really into photography, that 16 mp cam does sound nice so do the 2 extra cores really make a difference, especially in gaming?
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Check the Redmi Note 3 (MediaTek) development thread if you want to get an idea of the scope for development (in short, some but not much). There are reports that there won't be a Snapdragon version of the Redmi Note 4 and you might have to unofficially import it. The difference in camera performance is negligible. Real world performance is identical, but GeekBench states the Redmi Note 4 has about 20% better single core performance, 50% better multicore performance and 25% better graphics performance on average. Also, the Redmi Note 4 has 10 cores which is 4 more than the SD650 and it is based on the 14nm architecture vs the 28nm of the SD650 but batterylife remains the same between the two.
Basically, the Redmi Note 4 is a slightly better phone but won't have anywhere near the amount of development the Note 3 has seen thus far. It not get CyanogenMod, but I think it will.
As a photographer I can confirm that higher megapixels doesn't necessarily mean better. Although people were saying that there's not much improvement in the rn4 cam over the rn3. I'd still take the 4 over the 3 anytime tho because the design is much nicer
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I've got the same question about the rom development for mediatek. I've used cm nearly for 2 years and I'll be switching to miui. It doesn't matter if there won't be cm for the rn4 mtk. Miui is good and I'm willing to do this change.
Being a photography amateur, i can tell you that mp doesn't do a difference. It's the sensor that counts. If the rn4 has a better image quality, go for it. Gaming depends on the gpu mostly and the adreno is more powerful than the mali. Will gaming be better with the 2 cores? I can't tell you.
Btw if that helps you, I'm buying the rn4 mtk insead of the rn3p.
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So you're buying the rn4? Despite lesser development for mtk? Although MIUI is pretty great, many still do prefer cm and it being an mtk device, it reduces options for os change which I don't REALLY like... But according to notebookcheck.com the mtk GPU is better than the adrenochrome 510!! Which would've sold it for me, but mtk devices can't come to India because of a lawsuit with Ericsson and they're not planning on making a Qualcomm variant :'( also, when you get the phone, do tell me about it's camera performance!!
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Check the Redmi Note 3 (MediaTek) development thread if you want to get an idea of the scope for development (in short, some but not much). There are reports that there won't be a Snapdragon version of the Redmi Note 4 and you might have to unofficially import it. The difference in camera performance is negligible. Real world performance is identical, but GeekBench states the Redmi Note 4 has about 20% better single core performance, 50% better multicore performance and 25% better graphics performance on average. Also, the Redmi Note 4 has 10 cores which is 4 more than the SD650 and it is based on the 14nm architecture vs the 28nm of the SD650 but batterylife remains the same between the two.
Basically, the Redmi Note 4 is a slightly better phone but won't have anywhere near the amount of development the Note 3 has seen thus far. It not get CyanogenMod, but I think it will.
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So the rn3 is still the better alternative, isn't it? Btw, the problem with unofficially importing it is that first off, it'll be in Chinese, so i have to fiddle around for the English version or flash English MIUI and then I don't know if I'll get warranty coverage, which I don't think I will... Lastly working with mtk devices scare me a bit, cause ive seen software like mtk flash tools, which I dont really understand! My mother has a Panasonic eluga turbo which is mtk and there isn't a single rom for that!!! (Literally)
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As a photographer I can confirm that higher megapixels doesn't necessarily mean better. Although people were saying that there's not much improvement in the rn4 cam over the rn3. I'd still take the 4 over the 3 anytime tho because the design is much nicer
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You are NOT wrong!! The rn4 does look better! It's more squarish and well defined! The rn3 is a little curvy for my taste...
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So the rn3 is still the better alternative, isn't it? Btw, the problem with unofficially importing it is that first off, it'll be in Chinese, so i have to fiddle around for the English version or flash English MIUI and then I don't know if I'll get warranty coverage, which I don't think I will... Lastly working with mtk devices scare me a bit, cause ive seen software like mtk flash tools, which I dont really understand! My mother has a Panasonic eluga turbo which is mtk and there isn't a single rom for that!!! (Literally)
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I'm on the fence on this one. I have a gut feeling that overall the Redmi Note 3 Pro might have better day-to-day performance because it's software is better optimised (X20 devices showed significant GPU lag in the beginning due to bad drivers, yet the Note 3 has open kernel sources and CAF builds). My heart says "Note 4" ("better" SOC, looks) yet my brain says "Note 3" (Awesome ROM support, cheaper). I hate the rounded plastic looking design of the Note 3 yet I think the Note 4 looks pretty good with its all metallic build and reflective chamfers (it just lacks a USB type C port for symmetry and reliability). On my Mi4c I stayed mostly on MIUI despite loving CM13 because of the better camera software (I am super-critical of camera performance, but I don't have high hopes for either of these in anything else but perfect conditions) so I think given the choice I would anyway have a MIUI running Note 3.
Usually, the reseller that you buy it from has a 1-2 year warranty, look out for those if it matters to you. I personally always do my own repairs, but we have a local reseller that repairs Xiaomi phones should I ever get stuck (I extrapolated it's the same where you come from). Generally speaking, Xiaomi is very tolerant when it comes to modifying devices, but you might have to read up more on that regarding your specific country.
I have flashed MIUI on a MediaTek Redmi Note 2 without any issue or difference from the Snapdragon versions. The Note 4 already has an English custom ROM available it's great, I've used it on 3 different Xiaomis before (Mi 4c, Redmi Note 2 and Mi 4). Here is the link: https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/6-9-15-19.34208/ . I haven't used flash tools on MediaTek devices but had to on several Snapdragon and Exynos devices. They're stupendously easy to use, you don't have to worry if it comes to that.
Hello everyone,
I know this is the Q&A for N3P but I still wanna ask because I cant find that much comparasion between these three on english/german.
So, my questions are:
1. Speed? Not gaming, just Facebook, WhatsApp, YouTube and such apps.
2. Camera? Normal and low light. I know the N3P has 16 megapixel but I am asking anyways. I just heard that both cameras are ultra bad in low light.
3. Battery? Is there a noticable difference?
Thanks!
rn3 pro's battery is grt but camera quality in both daylight and lowlight is pretty bad.
Go for one plus x if u can afford.
Or any Huawei phone's for better performance in every aspects.
Thanks for your answer. But, the battery life isnt as good as it is on Note3 and Note4 afaik.
Or, is it really true that you get about 8hours screen on? I want to switch to Xiaomi just because of that.
I dont make THAT much photos with my phone. I have lg g2 at the moment and I dont think that Note3/4 Camera is that much worse than lg g2.
chorba69 said:
Thanks for your answer. But, the battery life isnt as good as it is on Note3 and Note4 afaik.
Or, is it really true that you get about 8hours screen on? I want to switch to Xiaomi just because of that.
I dont make THAT much photos with my phone. I have lg g2 at the moment and I dont think that Note3/4 Camera is that much worse than lg g2.
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If you're a gamer then Note 3
Actually Note 4 SD performance isn't that much poor compared to Note 3. You won't even notice a difference with normal usage. You can also expect better battery, over 10 hrs. SOT on Note 4 compared to 7 to 9 hrs. of Note 3(my own usage, others are claiming to get over 12 hrs. some even 14 though I don't know how they're doing it). I can end the day without looking for a charger with 7 to 9 hrs. of SOT so for me above that isn't really necessary. Note 4 also has better thermal performance(doesn't heat up that much, Note 3 may reach up to 45 degrees C when charging. I got it to 42 when playing although it's summer right now in my country).
If you're into Custom ROMs, etc. though then definitely Note 3. Actually only bought this over 4x because of the modding community plus the 700 mhz lte band on the Kate model.
Thanks for your answer. But that means that both phones are equally fast? I don't care that much about custom roms. I have since 5 years just aosp/cm Roms and I wanna test something different.
for me is just the performance important. Is there a difference that should be mentioned? not gaming, just overall speed.
1)Redmi note 3 pro special edition support 800 mhz 4G band which is usable on areas like villages away from big city's (there is a note 4 global edition with Snapdragon 625 which support 800 mhz band also)
2)note 3 pro vs 4 battery life its kinda same to improve battery also you can use xposed + power nap+amblify+greenify (maybe note 4 will get 30 min more battery cuz of a53 cores )
3)always aim to buy Snapdragon edition much better from mediatek Snapdragon gives sources and blabla
4)maybe Redmi note 3 got a little bit better performance on games cuz of x2 cores a73
5) colour or note 4 its a little better and design a little more wonderful for me on other hand with note 3 you can use radon kernel (for me its the best) and you can fix the colours same as note 4
6) cameras on daylight fotos are very good i could say best for the price of course because we talk for phones price range max 170$ huawei prices are 300+ so ofc they got better cameras
7)its the best option for value for money phones and about battery I get about 7 to 8 hours on my note 3 miui 8 7.4.27 with radon kernel using only cellular data because I'm on army and I use Facebook, messenger,viber, Instagram,whats app,some other apps (i got installed around to 90 apps) 0 lags the only you need its a good case and tempered glass cuz the durability on phones sucks but hey its 170$ max if you interested to go on higher price like 250$ I would told you to buy lettv 3 pro 821 Snapdragon 800 mhz and tons of much better performance ram etc
I hope I helped you a lot
N3P slight better performance over N4. Because SD650: 2x powerful A72 cores. (and yea sure 4x A53) Doesn't really matters in Day-to-day performance.
N4 better battery life over N3P. (Because 625 8x A53 built on 14 nm over 28 nm process in SD650)
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1)Redmi note 3 pro special edition support 800 mhz 4G band which is usable on areas like villages away from big city's (there is a note 4 global edition with Snapdragon 625 which support 800 mhz band also)
2)note 3 pro vs 4 battery life its kinda same to improve battery also you can use xposed + power nap+amblify+greenify (maybe note 4 will get 30 min more battery cuz of a53 cores )
3)always aim to buy Snapdragon edition much better from mediatek Snapdragon gives sources and blabla
4)maybe Redmi note 3 got a little bit better performance on games cuz of x2 cores a73
5) colour or note 4 its a little better and design a little more wonderful for me on other hand with note 3 you can use radon kernel (for me its the best) and you can fix the colours same as note 4
6) cameras on daylight fotos are very good i could say best for the price of course because we talk for phones price range max 170$ huawei prices are 300+ so ofc they got better cameras
7)its the best option for value for money phones and about battery I get about 7 to 8 hours on my note 3 miui 8 7.4.27 with radon kernel using only cellular data because I'm on army and I use Facebook, messenger,viber, Instagram,whats app,some other apps (i got installed around to 90 apps) 0 lags the only you need its a good case and tempered glass cuz the durability on phones sucks but hey its 170$ max if you interested to go on higher price like 250$ I would told you to buy lettv 3 pro 821 Snapdragon 800 mhz and tons of much better performance ram etc
I hope I helped you a lot
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Big thanks for so many informations!
And, if you were me, would you choose note 4/note 4x or note 3 pro?
As I have said, I dont play games on my phone. I just want a phone that can open and load apps like Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, WhatsApp quickly and have a big screen-on time.
Is there a big difference in speed between those two? As I have said, not gaming speed but everything else.
Thanks
@chorba69 I would go for note 4 cuz of that awesome corners and edges its amazing but the version Snapdragon 625 and with 800 mhz band supported plus I'm not a power user to play games all the time its waste of time for me xd but both devices are perfect ahh I forget maybe note 4 got a little bit better cameras quality cuz of Snapdragon 625 cuz it support 24 mp instead of Snapdragon 650 on 21 mp its not that much comparable since both record 4k video on 30 fps and there is not a speed difference between those devices dont be attracted by antutu scores etc I use radon kernel with battery option and I never get a single lag also Snapdragon 625 its 14nm and 650 its 28nm so it will be a little bit cooler than note 3
chorba69 said:
Big thanks for so many informations!
And, if you were me, would you choose note 4/note 4x or note 3 pro?
As I have said, I dont play games on my phone. I just want a phone that can open and load apps like Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, WhatsApp quickly and have a big screen-on time.
Is there a big difference in speed between those two? As I have said, not gaming speed but everything else.
Thanks
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Go for the Note 4 SD/Note 4X.
Note 3 vs Note 4 opening app speed difference is negligible, less than a second faster in favor of Note 3. While battery life and heat management improvement is noticeable on the Note 4, about 20% increase in battery life. Color reproduction of the screen too is better in the Note 4.
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Go for the Note 4 SD/Note 4X.
Note 3 vs Note 4 opening app speed difference is negligible, less than a second faster in favor of Note 3. While battery life and heat management improvement is noticeable on the Note 4, about 20% increase in battery life. Color reproduction of the screen too is better in the Note 4.
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Thanks! Just, there is no difference in speed and battery between Note 4 SD and Note 4x or?
If there is, which one has better battery/is faster?
And one thing more: Does 4x come with LTE Band 20 or there is special version with lte 20 ? I live in Germany and that thing is important for lte frequency here.
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Thanks! Just, there is no difference in speed and battery between Note 4 SD and Note 4x or?
If there is, which one has better battery/is faster?
And one thing more: Does 4x come with LTE Band 20 or there is special version with lte 20 ? I live in Germany and that thing is important for lte frequency here.
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Note 4 SD and Note 4X(3/32) are the same aside from LTE bands. Seeing that you're not in India, then definitely go with 4X but it doesn't have band 20 unfortunately. If you really need Band 20 then go for Note 3 Special/International Edition(Kate).
Here: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=7863&idPhone2=8580
Based on your usage I'd advice you go for Note 4X but if band 20 is really important then pick Redmi Note 3 Pro Special Edition. As I said earlier, I also chose Kate over 4X because of band 28.
Note 4x has the same camera sensor as LG G6. Dk how xiaomi manages to mess up with photos quality.
There's no big improvement in camera regarding those two. Note 4x has a better battery backup due to 14nm chipset. Note 3 has better community support. Note 3 is better in gaming. Note 4 looks better ( especially on that full black model ).
If i were to choose i'd go with the RN3P, as it has, if not the same, but close to a nexus phone community support, gonna be a long living device.
I googled now again and I found there is some Note 4 with the same specs as Note 4x and it has lte band 20.
should I get it over Note 3 pro?
Or it is not possible that there is a Note 4 with everything same as Note 4 just with Band 20?
http://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_620903.html
Hi people, above the link. I ordered this one. It should be the Note 4 or the Note 4x (I dont understand it yet) with LTE Band 20 or?
I just dont understand where is the difference between International version and Global version.
I guess theres nothing "big" between those two.
I have RN3Pro and was on latest Developer version (stock kernel), rooted and Xposed install, but no battery improvement apps/modules installed, just other type of tweaks. I just bought it and didn't tested on Stable version yet without root and Xposed. Maybe its better, don't know.
On first SS you can see how much Screen was ON per session. I plugged it on PC for some work, but it was not much... that's on second SS.
Thanks for Infos @apriores
everything above 5 hours screen on is new for me. I have lg g2 and I chose the xiaomi redmi because of the battery life.
just, I heard that even more than 8-9 hours of screen on are possible. have you ever made it above 8hours sot?
I had max sot of 10h on my rn3 pro
I suggest you to get rn3 pro because of better performance and development.
1) I think 4X has better design, I have used both and 4X gives better hold experience. Also it looks more expensive than 3P
2) If you don't aim to play game too much, buy 4X, 625 give better speed, just weaker GPU, moreover it is based on 14nm so better power management.
3) Camera, I will choose 3P, Snapdragon 650 support Zero Shutter Lag and some stuff better than 625, how ever in real condition, I still have some feeling that 3P take better pictures than 4X.
4) Audio, choose 3P, Snapdragon 650 has some better specs for Audio than 625, the default may very bad, but believe me, install DivineBeats and it just no difference like V20 or some stuff that has DACs.
5) Screen, 4X has better screen, 3P a little yellow in my opinion.
6) Connectivity: 4X, newer X9 LTE chip gives better connection than X8.
That's all, consider on your own.
Thanks. I ordered already a Note 4x with LTE Band 20 for Germany. I hope made a good decision. Thanks y'all in this thread.
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I want to get the redmi note 4 but am a bit confused and I need help.
I have both the Helio X20 and Snapdragon 625 both 4G/64G in my chart but don't know which one to buy
Here are my preferences:
#1 Crisp audio (with better noise reduction) during recording Audio or video
#2 Front camera with better low light performance.
#3 I don't play too much heavy game the heaviest I've played is Asphalt 8 but good performance for multi tasking and day to day use.
#4 Battery life.
#5 Custom ROM with fast charge.
Am a bit drawn to the Snapdragon version with LTE Band 4 and 20 but I need the opinion of others about the Helio X20 version too
Here's the like for the two devices:
Snapdragon 4GB/64G
Helio X20 MTK 4GB/64G
Please I need to learn from your experiences
Thanks
I added a picture showing the differences but not so much details. And I really need real life experiences with this phone.
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Only Snapdragon version. 10+ hours SOT, no overheating, good support in XDA.
If you wanna taste custom ROM definitely go SD version
Snapdragon. Its powered by Sd625 built on 14nm process
1)No heat
2)Good battery life(sometimes even 10+ hrs SOT)
3)Most things are kind of Snapdragon Optimized
I don't know about how much the benchmark reflect
real life performance of device but this is interesting.
few day ago i was talking to my friend who has same phone redmi note 7 pro and he said that his older phone which was Xiaomi A2 was better performing in pubg.
i didn't agree because it has 512 gpu and redmi note 7 pro has 612 gpu so i told him that this gpu is updated and is better than 512, but then i started to compare both gpu on this website
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Adreno-612-vs-Adreno-512_9876_8778.247598.0.html
and i was surprised by the results
and the i opened 3dmark website to check and i found that in gpu performance redmi note 7s, redmi note 7, and Mi A2 perform better that redmi note 7 pro how is this possible or how this processor or gpu upgrade work in phones.
this is the link of 3dmark result of phones
https://benchmarks.ul.com/compare/best-smartphones?displaySize=3.0,13.4&search=redmi note 7
I think I am the right one to answer this. I own both devices, and trust me... Rn7pro is miles ahead in terms of cpu and GPU performance from Mi a2.
Your friend sounds like a tool. I don't know about the benchmarks, but pubg by default selected high settings in graphics on rn7pro. And also by default, you can go upto ultra fps settings without using any graphics tool for PUBG.
Whereas in mi a2, pubg selects medium fps and by default the maximum fps supported is high.
I play on ultra settings and the rn7pro maintains a steady 40-45 fps(goes upto 52 depending on the scene being rendered).
Also keep in mind that qualcomm's series 6xx processors are based on custom kryo architecture.
Snapdragon 675 even beats 710 and 712 in benchmarks. The reason is the fact that Snapdragon 675 is based on kryo 460 model. Google all this and you will come to know what these terms mean. Snapdragon 660 which powers mi a2 is miles behind both in GPU and cpu performance.