So I noticed my messages were ahead by a few mins a while back, but never thought to check until now. I had just assumed that the time would be correct as it pulls it automatically.
However I checked it today after googling what the actual UTC time was and my phone is +3 mins against what it should be. This seems crazy that such a fundamental thing could be so out of whack.
I have changed the time manually, but really I would like the auto update to be correct as it should be. Is anyone else experiencing this problem?
I am UTC London.
hi there,
same problem here. my time's always wrong. also about +3min.
also when i set time manually, it takes a couple of days until it's wrong again...
Yea, I set it manually just after this post, and it back out of whack again now.
Same here. Can't think of any reasonable explanation for it!
Today, my phone is in sync, fingers crossed it lasts
I cant believe this isn't a more widespread issue, I know its not my carrier as I have other phones that I can put my sim in and it doesn't have the same problem. To me it seems like a software bug, but if this was the case there should be droves of people in this thread complaining about it and solutions via a google search, but there is just nothing...
Would be interested to hear if there are any other Lumia users reading this thread that have time that works just fine, maybe help to narrow down what is different about the few of us that have out of sync time. It really bugs me
I'm in the UK on T-mob and my time is constantly +3mins.
mdsharpe said:
Same here. Can't think of any reasonable explanation for it!
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This might be the cause or may not, but it is funny how 1sec can crash whole internet:
[URL="http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57461756-1/leap-second-june-30-to-be-longer-than-other-days/"]http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57461756-1/leap-second-june-30-to-be-longer-than-other-days/[/URL]
Food for thoughts:
http://googleblog.blogspot.de/2011/09/time-technology-and-leaping-seconds.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leap_second
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/solarsystem/features/extra-second.html
heard about it;s caused by hardware issue ,somewhere in CPU has turned into a wrong frequency so the time goes wrong,
i have check this carefully and i found it's 10seconds faster per day
The time should be set by the internet, as most phones are, so even if it got thrown by 1 sec it should be fixed as soon as it gets updated.
If you have the phone on manual time it seems to stay correct, but obviously this means I stand a good chance of being late/early for work when the clocks go back/forward
Just realised mine was too, said 5:17pm when it was 5:13pm by my PC sync'd to time server
710, o2 UK
Same problem, not just with auto
Edit: I have the 800
Mine always seems to end up about 2-3 mins out, I left it for a month or so once just to see and it ended up at about 5 mins fast! I'm on 3 (UK) and my previous phones never had this problem, and my girlfriend has the 710 also on 3 and hers is fine! I've tried it on auto as well as manual and both result in time being out, seems like a hardware fault :crying:
Yep, mine is always wrong too.
Barrie
Same problem here. So, does anybody know how to fix this issue? Seems that this behaviour only exists if I trun my phone off sometimes.
goldfinch711 said:
Same problem here. So, does anybody know how to fix this issue? Seems that this behaviour only exists if I trun my phone off sometimes.
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same problem here
7iain7 said:
same problem here
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after looking into this the problems lie with the way the phone gets the time i think its using NITZ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NITZ)
so if the carrier does not support NITZ then the phone will not update the time.
I think android devices get there time from google services & not NITZ
I went to bed last night and my DNA decided to start a data session that lasted 5 hours and used 2.5G of data during this time. It started another data session at 5am that used 750MB data. I woke up to 3G used and alerts from Verizon. Any idea what may have caused this usage? Verizon can't see what was being used. I just downloaded My Data Manager but was wondering where I might find what caused this and if anyone had this experience. Running unrooted stock. Thanks.
It's some app taking all your data through wake locks
Definitely an app, since HTC has a built in function that stops sync after midnight for 7 hours.
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dsb9938 said:
Definitely an app, since HTC has a built in function that stops sync after midnight for 7 hours.
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Verizon was having a tough time figuring out what app could use that much data. That is movie watching use.
Look at data usage in settings and see what app is causing this.
Sent from my HTC6435LVW using xda app-developers app
a box of kittens said:
It's some app taking all your data through wake locks
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Do you know what's a lot of wake locks? I had 7.1% used by system wake locks, I'm curious if that's a lot over the course of one battery cycle of 15 hrs?
pumah350 said:
Do you know what's a lot of wake locks? I had 7.1% used by system wake locks, I'm curious if that's a lot over the course of one battery cycle of 15 hrs?
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turns out it is exchange mail that gets frozen up and runs data constantly. not sure why but it only happens when I am out of town. of course Verizon isn't responsible but they gave me 4G free data this month to cover me.
rndchef said:
turns out it is exchange mail that gets frozen up and runs data constantly. not sure why but it only happens when I am out of town. of course Verizon isn't responsible but they gave me 4G free data this month to cover me.
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Great job on Verizon's end.
However, are you suggesting that the Exchange account can freeze and suck up all you data ?
Did it happen again since ?
This really is a problem if it happens regularly...
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Yea... great Verizon steped up on this. Of course... we should all be weary of those social apps that want to auto update status and link to contacts as well....
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Great job on Verizon's end.
However, are you suggesting that the Exchange account can freeze and suck up all you data ?
Did it happen again since ?
This really is a problem if it happens regularly...
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it has happened several times. used 3G of data in one night and they are not taking responsibility for it. they actually say they will stop supporting exchange in the future. I am very concerned that it happens again. I have Smart Synch enabled for non peak hours to stop it.
Hi, I recently updated my phone to Android 4.4.4 and now I am having this issue: Every time the phone acquires a cell signal, GPS turns on about 10 seconds later and stays on for a long time. This happens even if the GPS and location services are turned off. As a result my battery drains in half the time that it used to. If I stop IQ Agent process, GPS icon immediately goes away until the next time phone reacquires the signal. This happens multiple times a day. I can easily reproduce the problem by toggling airplane mode. I don’t think it’s a conflict with any of the apps because the problem exists if I boot into safe mode. I called HTS but they never heard of it, said they will escalate the problem to the developers, but I don’t know if anything will be done. Does anyone else experiencing the same problem? My phone is not rooted and locked.
Thanks…
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I called HTS but they never heard of it, said they will escalate the problem to the developers, but I don’t know if anything will be done.
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That usually means nothing will be done.
I haven't heard of this. I typically recommend backing up your data, and doing a factory reset; as this often (although not always) clears up random bugs after an OTA. Smart of you to eliminate the possibility of 3rd party apps by trying Safe Mode. But there may still be some migrated user settings causing a conflict.
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That usually means nothing will be done.
I haven't heard of this. I typically recommend backing up your data, and doing a factory reset; as this often (although not always) clears up random bugs after an OTA.
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I was hoping to figure this out without doing a factory reset. I know I am not the only one with this issue, I've seen others with the same problem on different forums...
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That usually means nothing will be done.
I haven't heard of this. I typically recommend backing up your data, and doing a factory reset; as this often (although not always) clears up random bugs after an OTA. Smart of you to eliminate the possibility of 3rd party apps by trying Safe Mode. But there may still be some migrated user settings causing a conflict.
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Some (including myself) have noted that this has something to do with carrier IQ services.
GPS
I just got off the phone with ATT just yesterday, and I can confirm they are aware of the issue. But seeing how Lollipop is just around the corner, you might want to wait a bit, unless of course you're in dire straits.
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I just got off the phone with ATT just yesterday, and I can confirm they are aware of the issue. But seeing how Lollipop is just around the corner, you might want to wait a bit, unless of course you're in dire straits.
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The HTC tech also said that Lollipop will be out soon, in fact he said they are in stage 2 testing (whatever that means). I just hope that the problem will not migrate to Lollipop.
I'm having a similar issue with my phone. Been sitting on my desk trying to charge, but it can't because the GPS is sucking away the battery.
Others over at AndroidCentral are complaining about the same thing.
Unfortunately I'm new here, so I can't post a link, but you can search for android central 494182-massive-battery-drain-gps-constantly
Also on Android Central: 494174-how-do-i-stop-my-gps-icon-flashing-att-htc-one-m8
Douglas_D said:
I'm having a similar issue with my phone. Been sitting on my desk trying to charge, but it can't because the GPS is sucking away the battery.
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You can turn off the GPS by stopping IQ Agent Service. It should stay off until the cell data connection is lost.
I think everyone should call them so they know it is happening to a lot of people. Otherwise nothing will get done. I am surprised that there is not that much chatter out there. It was hard to even find forum discussions.
Funny I just posted the same question in the generic M8 Q and A section. I just noticed it too. My battery life has not been affected that I can see after going through the data. I've gone and disabled any app that uses the GPS service but it's still coming on so it's not an app or app update that I can tell. I guess I can wait until LP comes out.
So far so good since I've stopped IQ Agent Service. It hasn't popped back up and I've made 5 or 6 phone calls since then.
I think I solved it…
I think I solved it… I believe the app DriveMode was causing an issue. Here is what I think happened. When I got my phone a year ago, I immediately disabled few apps, DriveMode was one of them. I believe the recent update was designed to more closely interact with DriveMode and even though the app was disabled, it appeared that as soon as the phone acquired data connection, it tried to determine whether or not the user was moving. When I re-enabled the app, I disabled it internally (within the app) and I guess that told the OS not to bother determining if the user was moving anymore. Here are the steps: I re-enabled DriveMode, I then went to google play and updated it to the latest version, I opened the app and immediately noticed GPS icon turned on, the screen appeared telling me to enable GPS, I checked ignore check box and left the location service running in battery save mode. I closed the Drive mode app and left it along without disabling it. I did this yesterday and haven’t noticed GPS turning on even once since then.
I hope this helps everyone solve this annoying problem; please let me know if this works for anyone…
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I think I solved it… I believe the app DriveMode was causing an issue. Here is what I think happened. When I got my phone a year ago, I immediately disabled few apps, DriveMode was one of them. I believe the recent update was designed to more closely interact with DriveMode and even though the app was disabled, it appeared that as soon as the phone acquired data connection, it tried to determine whether or not the user was moving. When I re-enabled the app, I disabled it internally (within the app) and I guess that told the OS not to bother determining if the user was moving anymore. Here are the steps: I re-enabled DriveMode, I then went to google play and updated it to the latest version, I opened the app and immediately noticed GPS icon turned on, the screen appeared telling me to enable GPS, I checked ignore check box and left the location service running in battery save mode. I closed the Drive mode app and left it along without disabling it. I did this yesterday and haven’t noticed GPS turning on even once since then.
I hope this helps everyone solve this annoying problem; please let me know if this works for anyone…
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I like this idea -
However, I was able to get rid of this issue by disabling the carrier IQ service. I did this using an application called Disable Service from the Google Play store.
Works like a charm, and has the added advantage of disabling the IQ service intrusion.
DanGeorges said:
However, I was able to get rid of this issue by disabling the carrier IQ service. I did this using an application called Disable Service from the Google Play store.
Works like a charm, and has the added advantage of disabling the IQ service intrusion.
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Unfortunately this only will work on rooted phones, mine is not.
madelman99 said:
Unfortunately this only will work on rooted phones, mine is not.
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Just want to throw my $0.02 in here....I'm having hte same issues noted in the thread, and it's murdering my battery life. I typically get 24-30 hours of battery life easily on this phone, but now if i dont spend all day killing IQ Agent, i get about 7. I can't root my M8 due to some work restrictions, so it's all manual IQ Agent task killing fo rme. although I was EXTREMELY active yesterday in killing the service ~30 times throughout the day yesterday, Android System (where IQ Agent lies) still managed to run 2hr 24 minutes of GPS on, according to two different battery/service monitoring apps. This, mind you, all occurred without my actual GPS toggle ever being switched on.
I'm waiting for a call back from HTC, and AT&T punted completely and denied any knowledge of why it would happen (although ironically offering to remote into my phone to "diagnose" the issue, which I could not do becuase I was in transit when I called and they required I remain stationary...)
I'm 100% convinced it's entirely due to the IQ Agent task, or another involuntary watchdog service trigging IQ agent. This task is started under at least two distinct condition, with no fail:
my phone goes between 4G and LTE (Subway, between towers/coverage zones, all flipping day long in my concrete-and-steel office building...)
I make or receive a phone call (can feel teh phone get hot in ~2 minutes while on the phone).
switching in or out of airplane mode (which is really an extension of #1).
I love my M8 like crazy, but I cannot wait until my next phone because I absolutely refuse to purchase anything associated with a cell carrier ever again. Fvck that.
Agreed...DriveMode part of the problem
madelman99 said:
I think I solved it… I believe the app DriveMode was causing an issue. Here is what I think happened. When I got my phone a year ago, I immediately disabled few apps, DriveMode was one of them. I believe the recent update was designed to more closely interact with DriveMode and even though the app was disabled, it appeared that as soon as the phone acquired data connection, it tried to determine whether or not the user was moving. When I re-enabled the app, I disabled it internally (within the app) and I guess that told the OS not to bother determining if the user was moving anymore. Here are the steps: I re-enabled DriveMode, I then went to google play and updated it to the latest version, I opened the app and immediately noticed GPS icon turned on, the screen appeared telling me to enable GPS, I checked ignore check box and left the location service running in battery save mode. I closed the Drive mode app and left it along without disabling it. I did this yesterday and haven’t noticed GPS turning on even once since then.
I hope this helps everyone solve this annoying problem; please let me know if this works for anyone…
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Agreed. I mostly followed these steps by downloading the latest DriveMode, walking through DriveMode setup, then disabling DriveMode and then stopping the IQ Agent Service. SInce then, GPS has performed as it should, only on demand. I did notice that when switching from mobile to a wi-fi network that requires a sign in that the GPS fires up. But again, killing the service stops the random GPS after logging into the wi-fi. So overall, much better than the constant on/off, but still ATT needs to resolve this at some point.
Have a carrieriq blocked/inactive build in testing so we shall see if it is indeed the culprit by end of day.
I've been testing this build for a couple of days now, and so far the GPS has stayed off like a good little app should. It only turns on when I expect.
Update/Reply From AT&T as of 03/23
Finally!!! An admission from AT&T that they jacked up our phones with their software update back in January. It's only taken a month and a half, 4 calls to text support, 3 attempts to reach their urgent care department (by the way... they are completely incompetent. They call from an unknown number, I normally don't answer but I also couldn't answer anyway due to being at work. They leave a message requesting you call a number in KY and leave a message. Left a message on two different occasions and provided the days and hours they could reach me. Of course they call whenever they want and the process starts all over) in addition to all this, I filed a complaint with the Better Business Bureau that resulted in a call back from a corporate executive. Now the only problem is they don't have a solution for the issue yet and probably won't do anything with the Lollipop update that "SHOULD" be released within the next 15 days. No one should have to go through this but I honestly think everyone should file a BBB complaint just to show AT&T a lesson.
Rebel3085 said:
Finally!!! An admission from AT&T that they jacked up our phones with their software update back in January. It's only taken a month and a half, 4 calls to text support, 3 attempts to reach their urgent care department (by the way... they are completely incompetent. They call from an unknown number, I normally don't answer but I also couldn't answer anyway due to being at work. They leave a message requesting you call a number in KY and leave a message. Left a message on two different occasions and provided the days and hours they could reach me. Of course they call whenever they want and the process starts all over) in addition to all this, I filed a complaint with the Better Business Bureau that resulted in a call back from a corporate executive. Now the only problem is they don't have a solution for the issue yet and probably won't do anything with the Lollipop update that "SHOULD" be released within the next 15 days. No one should have to go through this but I honestly think everyone should file a BBB complaint just to show AT&T a lesson.
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So - was it Carrier IQ? Did they say what was going on?
I know they said they don't have a solution, but it would be useful to know what is causing this. I found that disabling the carrier iq service does the trick, and WNC's ROM, which has it disabled by default, also does the trick.
Thanks for the update. My phone started doing the GPS thing a couple of weeks ago and my battery life has been shot.
The weirdest thing is that my issues only started 2 weeks ago, instead of when the update occurred in January, so ATT must be doing something weird on their network as well
i recently manually carrier services on the pixel6 with the feb update, and my wifi started to disconnet often which it never did before, i only have manual updates on my device and no google play so i was able to track my cause of the issue very quickly.
it all seems fine now for the last hour in testing.
your mileage may very. so this is just a maybe fwiw and fyi
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i recently manually carrier services on the pixel6 with the feb update, and my wifi started to disconnet often which it never did before, i only have manual updates on my device and no google play so i was able to track my cause of the issue very quickly.
it all seems fine now for the last hour in testing.
your mileage may very. so this is just a maybe fwiw and fyi
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You might want to post this here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/no-wifi-after-february-update.4399973/
This has been ongoing for a month now and with a thread almost dedicated to the issue there really is reason to see what others have found and any solutions that might help you.
I haven't had wifi problems. But I was having an issue with my cellular network using 30% of my battery. And then last night something odd happened. See I use a chargie to make sure my phone never charges past 80 so it drops to inthink 76.and then back to 80 but last night i fell asleep on my couch and got up at.like 4am and went to bed when my wife's alarm went off at 6 I nwent to check my phone and the battery was completely dead. Now that's never happened in that short a time before. Weird so I plugged it in and now when I check it's still using alot but like 12% now. I wonder if the battery dieing reset something. I don't know.