Face Rec is better than we've heard...according to this - Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion

I just saw a video of a guy trying to spoof the face recognition with his picture on another phone....didn't work
https://youtu.be/w-ehLXyJAqA

This guy's method is flawed. I'd be willing to bet *** MOD EDIT *** that the pic is either not big enough, or the display interferes somehow. I'm going to do a test of my own real quick, will report back with a vid.

Can't wait

I already saw one of the reviews on YouTube showing a guy unlock one with a life sized picture. Until you put dual cameras on the front of the phone to get a depth measurement, IR temperature, something, it's going to remain an easy way in.

This is nothing new since I've owned the s3....

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Need recommendation for GT-P7510 display issue

This GT-P7510 with me began to show some reddish display problem. Below is the 10-second video. The 1 minute video I have a problem uploading as of now, but working on it.
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http://youtu.be/SG3A13qesWY
Once the redness takes over the screen (0:05 onwards), the tab will have reddish gradients especially visible when viewing videos, full screen colored pictures, or operating the camera, something like in 256 colors mode or less with red gradients. Its not seen on this short video, but can be seen on the next video still in the works of uploading.
Aside from that, the tab works perfectly normal. When in low brightness and used for everything else aside video, the issue is not much noticeable can it can be used just as any other normal fully working units.
Now my problem is I don't have warranty as unit came from abroad and after bringing the unit to local Samsung, I somehow feel that they don't want to spend time to think about the issue thru the way they talk with me. Looks like they have to improve their staff for customer service attitude but that's not the point of this post. Anyway, the proposal to me after having the unit with them for more than a week for assessment was to "replace the screen and camera". I did not have it repaired for the moment so I can think about it carefully and ask for recommendations.
I mean, hello. All works well aside from that reddish tint. I completely understand that all Galaxy Tab 10.1 are less than a year old and all warrantied so doing replacement will probably fix the problem and with least use of brains. I guess that's the protocol for all 10.1 units with any hardware issue as Samsung will cover the warranty.
However, didn't they think maybe something just need replace on the board, like perhaps just the CPU/GPU chip or somewhere similar? The screen is the most expensive part of the device and if that's the one need replacement then it already goes to the level of thinking of the thing is already in the borders of "beyond economical repair".
Also, where did the idea the camera needs replacement as well? I will do a testing of a video call and see if the other party will see me reddish and will update this post.
I've thought of several options:
1. Auction it off whilst being honest with the issue of course, letting the market dictate the price by starting a low bid.
2. Just use it (or have a toddler/kid play use it), live with the issue for the moment. I play with it also in terms of testing custom ROMs and curious of the upcoming ICS onto it. I can prefer not to use it as I have a competitor tablet as well.
3. Wait it out for this tab10.1 to go mainstream to the masses and mature, when many owns it more chances of parts coming along and 3rd party repair technicians that can do isolation and swap out parts with a worse unit (ie. broken screen).
4. Wait it out, then go back to Samsung which probably by then knows already how to use brains to isolate the issue and provide a knowledgeable recommendation as probably that time they handle out of warranty units. Also, hopefully by then whatever replacement part cost should have gone down.
As like all my other stuff, the thing is mint, screen protector on & back protected by TPU (whilst the back plastics are still there intact) even before it was used, boxes and all accessories are as new, the power adaptor still has its plastic skin on. That's why I am kind of "attached" to the unit, this is something that has no physical sign of use at all.
Any futher recommendations or other inputs on how to move forward with this?
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[Q] Why is my friend's s2 better?

I recently posted that my friend and I have the same phone with the same carrier, the same firmware (2.3.4) etc. I asked why his camera was better, and never got a answer which solved it. I now think this was my folley as it appears that it is actually his screen which is better.
We bluetoothed some pictures we both had aken ourselves to see if it was in fact the camera and although it is not as big a difference when we take pictures on each device his pictures (the same pictures) look slightly beter.
Any ideas why this may be, if i got a botched phone or something? there is a couple of slight scrathes over my camera if tht could make the difference but i doubt it since it's more the fact my pictures are blurry.
Thanks in advance, Harry
HarrySansom said:
I recently posted that my friend and I have the same phone with the same carrier, the same firmware (2.3.4) etc. I asked why his camera was better, and never got a answer which solved it. I now think this was my folley as it appears that it is actually his screen which is better.
We bluetoothed some pictures we both had aken ourselves to see if it was in fact the camera and although it is not as big a difference when we take pictures on each device his pictures (the same pictures) look slightly beter.
Any ideas why this may be, if i got a botched phone or something? there is a couple of slight scrathes over my camera if tht could make the difference but i doubt it since it's more the fact my pictures are blurry.
Thanks in advance, Harry
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Did you check the screen settings? There's one besides 'Brightness'. The screen can be set to something, Dynamic, or something else. This could be it... have a look around and make sure you're on the same settings.
FWIW I read your first post a week or 2 ago, and didn't answer cause it sounds like a really strange problem...and without both phones in my hand I couldn't begin to speculate. I doubt that you got a sub-par phone. Try making photos without holding the device, set it on a level surface. The blur could be from your hand shaking very very slightly, and maybe your buddy has steadier hands than you do. Really, no way to tell without having the phones in front of me. Sorry if this doesn't help. Keep us posted on your findings and good luck!
I saw that some i9100 got a different Camara Firmware possibly he got a better Firmware...
if thats not right someone can still blame me
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Did you check the screen settings? There's one besides 'Brightness'. The screen can be set to something, Dynamic, or something else. This could be it... have a look around and make sure you're on the same settings.
FWIW I read your first post a week or 2 ago, and didn't answer cause it sounds like a really strange problem...and without both phones in my hand I couldn't begin to speculate. I doubt that you got a sub-par phone. Try making photos without holding the device, set it on a level surface. The blur could be from your hand shaking very very slightly, and maybe your buddy has steadier hands than you do. Really, no way to tell without having the phones in front of me. Sorry if this doesn't help. Keep us posted on your findings and good luck!
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I know it's hard without seeing both, we're struggling with both. I have a more recent camera firmware i think as i updated through samsung apps not long ago. I'm not entirely sure about the shake but we have done a lot of photos and we almost always had him take both pictues. Also we both use 'standard' screen mode (we checked).
check to make sure that the camera lense is clean as well, often a smudgy/dirty lense will make bad photos.
I'm actually having the same problem (and have been having it for months). I only noticed it when I was a concert late last year and I was recording on my phone and watching other people's SGS2s record. Theirs was obviously much clearer and did not distort like my camera/footage did (when lights would flash, mines would blur, 'blob' together lights that were close to one another etc. while theirs captured it with clarity). Then I started to notice that when I zoom in, my camera gets extremely blurry, too. I started comparing to a few other people and, yes, on the same settings my camera is much worse. I've tried resetting the camera settings which has proved to do nothing for it.
I was starting to think I was crazy but I've finally found someone else with the same/a similar problem (was extremely hard to Google).
I also updated my firmware via Samsung Apps. It seems to be great in natural light but otherwise, it's really quite poor.
Camera firmware is TBEF04.
Any ideas?
guys it would be better if we can attach our sample pictures. i had similar problem. this is mine.

The HTC One on AT&T - My mini review

I came from the Samsung Galaxy S III and before that it was the iPhone 4, and iPhone 3g and before that Blackberry. I have been all over the place with phones and I get very excited when anyone releases the next huge phone. My main plan was to get the Galaxy S IV until it was actually revealed and I felt quite let down but what it was offering. I felt like they 'appled' things up by just making tiny upgrades just to get people to buy more of the same thing.
Then I read about the HTC One and was a bit skeptical. They were raving about the speakers and the Ultrapixel and all the other features and I just couldn't get past the fact it was HTC. My friend had the HTC One X and I saw how it lacked in updates and didn't have expandable storage or a removable battery. On my SIII I had an extended battery and would still manage to burn through it in a day of heavy usage. So even though I LOVED most of the things about the HTC One. I was scared of jumping ship and trying it.
As the weeks went on and the reviews came out I begun scouring the internet for every bit of information I could find on the HTC One. I read every review and I swear I surfed every forum and at the end of the day I was still impressed by the device and figured i could get over the lack of replaceable battery and extra space. So I made the leap and got the HTC One on AT&T.
I've had it a few days now and I'm still as impressed with this thing as I was when I was reading all the reviews on it. Everything from the 'BoomSound' to the 'Ultrapixel' camera was spot on like I read. The names of the cool features might be a marketing gimmick but they really are the things that make this phone stand out and make it unique.
BUILD QUALITY:
Do I even need to touch on this? Every review, every person who ever touched this device all same the same thing. That it truly is a sight to behold. Trying to put it up against my S III makes the S III look like a toy. This is one phone that I don't want to get a case for (and still haven't) because I think everyone needs to see the HTC One because this is how quality phones should be made. If you read the forums and some reviews they do mention there could be a slight gap around the plastic antenna band, and on mine that is also true. But it is SO tiny on mine that I don't even think it's an issue.
BLINK FEED/SENSE 5:
I have never used an HTC phone with Sense before, coming from the Galaxy S III SENSE is a HUGE step up from what Samsung had. I would often through CM10 or AOKP on my SIII just to get rid of the horrid UI on the S III. I read in reviews that blink feed was almost worthless and most people wouldn't use it and so I figured that be the case for me too...but the crazy part is, I actually DO use it! While I am sitting at work waiting for something to happen or I'm at dinner waiting to order I'm actually finding myself unlocking my phone and seeing what is going on with the world through Blink Feed. I LOVE RSS readers and being on top of things and Blink Feed helps with this without me having to even load up a third party app or anything. While Blink Feed is good they do need to open it up to allow me to import my RSS feeds and what not (like flip board, etc). Blink feed isn't perfect but I'm surprised by how much I actually use it.
On to Sense 5 I am quite impressed with it. Typically I'll throw Apex or Nova launcher on top of the UI and be done with it but after putting Nova on it for half a day I actually ended up uninstalling it. Part of it was so I could have Blink Feed back but the other part is I liked the overall look of Sense 5. It was clean and the buttons were nice. I wish I could use the Sense 5 icon for internet on instead of the look of the Chrome button since that's what I use and chrome now sticks out like a sore thumb on the dock, but I can live with that. Sense has done some nice things in the app locker section by letting you easily search for apps/hide apps and even put apps in folders. I've found that I use Blinkfeed as my main screen and the app launcher as my 'second screen'. I don't even bother swiping over any more to show more home screens.
CAMERA
The camera was the real reason I was excited about this phone. It was something different and something that sounded amazing on paper. HTC was doing something radically different and instead of going the way of the MegaPixel war, HTC was bypassing it completely. And for me, their bet has paid off. This camera will not be for everyone. For people who want amazing clear and detailed pictures then 4MP will probably not be enough. But I'm the kind of person who likes capturing the moments through out my day and sharing them with friends on FB or on G+. I like taking pictures during almost everything and the HTC One helps me with that tremendously.
Zoe mode is a nice change of pace where instead of just capturing a still pic it does the still with 3 seconds of video/sound. This allows you to then find the perfect picture in the 3 second period and edit and save that or even do things such as picking the best face from people in the photo and combining it into one, removing objects in the background, actually making peoples faces skinnier and many other tweaks. There are some options I don't think I'll ever use such as the option to make eyes bigger but I've used it to make funny pictures of my family by making them look like aliens!
The highlight reel is pretty neat and I find myself creating them and posting them to facebook. I think it was completely stupid of HTC to only include 4 themes and make it that you can't use custom music/themes but I have my fingers crossed that that functionality is coming. The highlight reel is a lot like the blink feed. It's a great start to something that can really shine, but HTC needs to get off it's butt and finish it to make it stand above the crowd.
The UI for the camera isn't very pretty or intuitive but the amount of options it offers easily makes up for it. Coming from the SIII it's pretty cool to be able to change everything about the camera settings and it allows people who take the time to learn to capture some pretty impressive shots. Even on full auto it takes good pictures but I think that one will need to learn to adjust the settings based on the situation they are in to get the best photos possible.
The lowlight shooting is hands down amazing. I was able to take a shot around 830 at night after the sun set, the cars on the road had their headlights on and the street lights on the side of the road were on, but the HTC One captured enough light to make it look like the sun was still out. It is crazy how much light this camera captures and when you're like me and love capturing photos of your kids in the house and might not always be in perfect lighting, then this phone is fantastic. Thanks to the quick capturing taking pictures of fast moving objects is also quite enjoyable. On the SIII (not so much on the iPhone) capturing moving objects would lead to very blurry photos, that isn't the case on the One.
I know this section got a bit big but I just wanted to run down some things about it. I didn't even mention the slow motion video, the hdr, the video hdr and other things such as the sequence shot. I have used the HDR pictures (there is a tweak out there on custom roms to enable front camera HDR too) and it's QUICK. The slow motion video makes the video quality really bad but it's still a fun effect. The camera is just something you need to use to be able to fully comprehend. I'll take a photo of something and show someone and they look at me like I'm crazy because they don't understand why I'm so excited about the picture. It's hard to describe just how low the lighting was in it and how awesome the One captured the photo.
BOOM SOUND/MICS:
Stupid name, awesome feature. I never understood why phones put the speakers on the back/bottom. It never made sense. The screen is on the front so why would I want the sound coming from a different location?! On the iPhones the speaker was on the bottom and on the S III it was on the back and I'd have to do this weird cupping movement with my hand to get the sound to make it around to the front of the phone just so I could actually hear what I was watching! And if I put the phone down some where then it'd get all muffled and horrible. The One does not have this problem at all. I'd say the front speakers can be on par with some netbooks/tablets if not louder. This makes watching videos/listening to music or even taking speaker calls a very good experience. It also has dual membrane mics that do a great job at making sure that you're recording sounds of things you actually want to record. Apparently the company that made them for HTC is being sued in Europe because they were supposed to wait 12 months to use them in another phone, but HTC isn't being held liable in that because HTC had no idea.
Now most of this review seems like it's all glowing and perfect for the One but it does have some issues. Things such as Blink Feed and the Highlight Reel (2 huge features HTC touted) feeling like they aren't finished. Or the fact the LED is only 2 colors (I miss being able to have the Notification LED on the S III let me know exactly what the notification was for before I even had the phone in my hand). I also know this isn't a big thing but I always feel like I'm going to scratch the phone when I set it down someplace just because of the noise it makes. Hard to describe but when you put something metal down it makes quite a bit of noise. I know it won't scratch or anything, but in my mind I can't convince myself it won't!
At the end of the day, I'm in love with the phone. It fits me and my life style perfectly and it captures why I love smart phones. I don't take pictures of my food but I spend a lot of my day capturing memories and sharing them with the people close to me. The HTC One makes doing that and keeping it organized thanks to events very easy! I would still recommend the S III to anyone that wants a great cheaper phone (specially since the price has dropped on it). But if someone asks me what the best phone in, I will say the HTC One without hesitating.
Same thing was going on with me, but I knew HTC always made high quality build phones. I took the jump from an N4 and haven't looked back. Your review was awesome and right on par with my thoughts about this phone too.
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Great little review! Thanks for taking the time to write it up. I'm trying to hold off on getting the One, but I don't think I can after seeing it all over the place. The thing just looks too damn nice. I'm also really over the plastic body of the S3.
I got a question for ya though.. How is multitasking on the One? I completely hated it on the One X and even ended up returning the phone. I wouldn't even call it multitasking tbh. Dunno if you ever used the One X, but I was curious if any of the problems still persist.
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ovoxo. said:
Great little review! Thanks for taking the time to write it up. I'm trying to hold off on getting the One, but I don't think I can after seeing it all over the place. The thing just looks too damn nice. I'm also really over the plastic body of the S3.
I got a question for ya though.. How is multitasking on the One? I completely hated it on the One X and even ended up returning the phone. I wouldn't even call it multitasking tbh. Dunno if you ever used the One X, but I was curious if any of the problems still persist.
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The multitasking was one of the things that turned me off about that phone. From what I heard it'd start closing things after you had one or two things open. With the One I haven't noticed anything like that and when I open my 'Open Apps' by double tapping home it is always full. Now it only shows 9 open apps at any given time. I'm not sure if it closes other apps if you get over that number or not. But if that's the case it hasn't affected my use at all. Maybe HTC wised up after the bad reviews or maybe it's because it has better memory management.
Thanks for the review robamacaf! Well written and very informative.
I have also grown tired of Samsung plastics and gimmicks. My recent devices have been HTC One X, iPhone 5, Galaxy S3, and a Galaxy Note 2.
HTC has always made nice hardware. Dare I say that even the One X had pretty good build quality when compared to the S3.
Like you, I assumed one of the 1st things I would do on the One would be to find a way to rid myself of BlinkFeed. That crazy thing happened to me as well and now I find myself using it and loving it.
Thanks for the awesome review!

[Q] Faceunlock for unlocking phone

When I first started using face unlock it worked 80% of the time. I then trained it a whole bunch and now it works 40%. How many times should you "improve face matching"? For example if your face looks different in to pictures, does that mean what its matching against is harder or easier to match (for example if you have a beard in one and no beard in another does it just not look at that part of the face when determining if the person looks like you)?
Are there any tips to get it to work better? They say to hold it at eye level when doing the training, but you're not going to be at that angle when you're normally using the phone, normally people hold the phone close to there body and tilt their head down when they use it. Yesterday was foggy and it basically didn't work outside.

Face unlock - unlocks for my daughter

My M20P facial recognition unlocks my phone for my 9 year old daughter.
So either my daughter is really unfortunate in that she looks like me, I am lucky in that I look a lot younger than I am, or the functionality isn't quite as clever/secure as all that.
My daughter, luckily for her, is not my doppelganger and whilst I a feel about 22 inside, the mirror in the morning tells me otherwise. I tested the phone on my wife and it doesn't unlock so it isn't a general fault.
So it looks like if someone looks a bit like someone else there is a chance it will unlock.
This happens on iphones too. The truth is we really don't know how secure this system is, or what the accuracy/fidelity of the scan has to be. Ironically the very IR blaster used to map your face can also be used to build a 3D model of your face, a person could get that printed and try it out that way with various modifications. On an iphone you have the setting that your eyes have to be open too, not sure what the point of that is as a cop will force you to unlock it either way and if you are dead even the hobo that fishes your body out of the culvert would pry your eyelids open with a dirty thumbnail.
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This happens on iphones too. The truth is we really don't know how secure this system is, or what the accuracy/fidelity of the scan has to be. Ironically the very IR blaster used to map your face can also be used to build a 3D model of your face, a person could get that printed and try it out that way with various modifications. On an iphone you have the setting that your eyes have to be open too, not sure what the point of that is as a cop will force you to unlock it either way and if you are dead even the hobo that fishes your body out of the culvert would pry your eyelids open with a dirty thumbnail.
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LoL yes it's not very secure I don't know how it picks up my face while I'm sat down with the screen practically at 45 degree facing the ceiling. However I have enabled eye contact in my settings, it does make a difference I asked my daughter to watch while I pointed the phone at my face with my eyes closed, the screen stayed locked. Open eyes and it unlocked instantly.
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