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When I first started using face unlock it worked 80% of the time. I then trained it a whole bunch and now it works 40%. How many times should you "improve face matching"? For example if your face looks different in to pictures, does that mean what its matching against is harder or easier to match (for example if you have a beard in one and no beard in another does it just not look at that part of the face when determining if the person looks like you)?
Are there any tips to get it to work better? They say to hold it at eye level when doing the training, but you're not going to be at that angle when you're normally using the phone, normally people hold the phone close to there body and tilt their head down when they use it. Yesterday was foggy and it basically didn't work outside.
It seems like the new Android sensor hub didn't receive too much attention, even though it's one of the biggest features of the new Nexus line.
According to the presentation, the new Android sensor hub chip will act as a low-power chip that will make it possible for the phone to be in deep sleep, while still ''active'' for user input. That doesn't mean only voice commands, but movement as well.
That means that it'll act as some apps have been doing for a lot of time(like Gravity), although this time there will be no battery drain, instead of the 5%-10% daily, because while using those apps your phone can't get into deep sleep.
Personally as the 6p and 5X won't have DT2W(probably because it's a LG patent) this seems like the best feature to open your phone, as every time you'll pick it up or take it out of the pocket, it'll unlock automatically, and the screen won't shut off while you are holding the device as it'll know it's moving in your hand, even while holding it just to read news.
Seems like the best new feature so far.
I dont think DT2W is an LG thing.... my N9 has it and I think they were made by HTC? The 6P will have single tap to wake using the fingerprint sensor which I think will be amazingly handy
I believe in the demo, ambient display is activated by picking it up due to the 'Sensor Hub', and you can swipe to unlock from there. No power button pushing. This is assuming you don't have a screen lock or have smart lock setup.
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I dont think DT2W is an LG thing.... my N9 has it and I think they were made by HTC? The 6P will have single tap to wake using the fingerprint sensor which I think will be amazingly handy
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I thought dt2w is a snapdragon thing
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I thought it was just a kernel thing
DT2W is available almost exclusively on the LG G series.(and only a very few other handsets which according to some reports it's bc they paid LG money to use it..) In order for it to work while still letting the phone going into deep sleep you need to wire the screen and the digitizer differently so the screen will stay off and the touch input will stay on.
regarding the fingerprint unlock - The problem with the fingerprint unlock is that unlike the iPhone.. it's just on the back. which is really not the comfortable to unlock like if it was on the front. again, the only reason it makes sense for them to go that way is bc maybe apple patented it(well actually apple patent everything.. Samsung just lost a case on court to Apple for slide to unlock..)
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DT2W is available almost exclusively on the LG G series.(and only a very few other handsets which according to some reports it's bc they paid LG money to use it..) In order for it to work while still letting the phone going into deep sleep you need to wire the screen and the digitizer differently so the screen will stay off and the touch input will stay on.
regarding the fingerprint unlock - The problem with the fingerprint unlock is that unlike the iPhone.. it's just on the back. which is really not the comfortable to unlock like if it was on the front. again, the only reason it makes sense for them to go that way is bc maybe apple patented it(well actually apple patent everything.. Samsung just lost a case on court to Apple for slide to unlock..)
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Every Chinese phone nowadays has DT2W. HTC, Oneplus, ZTE and many other manufacturers have several handsets with the feature. Apple haven't patented having a fingerprint sensor on the front last I checked otherwise Samsung would be facing legal action by now.
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DT2W is available almost exclusively on the LG G series.(and only a very few other handsets which according to some reports it's bc they paid LG money to use it..) In order for it to work while still letting the phone going into deep sleep you need to wire the screen and the digitizer differently so the screen will stay off and the touch input will stay on.
regarding the fingerprint unlock - The problem with the fingerprint unlock is that unlike the iPhone.. it's just on the back. which is really not the comfortable to unlock like if it was on the front. again, the only reason it makes sense for them to go that way is bc maybe apple patented it(well actually apple patent everything.. Samsung just lost a case on court to Apple for slide to unlock..)
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So maybe Google paid LG to use it in the N9?
Also almost every reviewer has preferred the rear fingerprint sensor to the front one. Your hand naturally falls there making it incredibly easy to use
I read an article that claimed Nokia invented DT2W and LG decided to claim it as their own. The N6 didn't get released with DT2W and it didn't take too long for someone to enable it. I've become used to it over the past two years, and it'll take time getting used to the fingerprint scanner.
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It seems like the new Android sensor hub didn't receive too much attention, even though it's one of the biggest features of the new Nexus line.
According to the presentation, the new Android sensor hub chip will act as a low-power chip that will make it possible for the phone to be in deep sleep, while still ''active'' for user input. That doesn't mean only voice commands, but movement as well.
That means that it'll act as some apps have been doing for a lot of time(like Gravity), although this time there will be no battery drain, instead of the 5%-10% daily, because while using those apps your phone can't get into deep sleep.
Personally as the 6p and 5X won't have DT2W(probably because it's a LG patent) this seems like the best feature to open your phone, as every time you'll pick it up or take it out of the pocket, it'll unlock automatically, and the screen won't shut off while you are holding the device as it'll know it's moving in your hand, even while holding it just to read news.
Seems like the best new feature so far.
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This and Doze pushed me over the edge when deciding on upgrading from the N6. I'm perfectly happy on the N6, I don't find it to be too big (but the cupholder in my car does), love Chroma running on it, and haven't felt the need to tweak and fiddle with stuff nearly as much as any other device I've had. For me, that's the hallmark of a great device & ROM. These 2 features + bigger battery really sealed the deal though.
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DT2W is available almost exclusively on the LG G series.(and only a very few other handsets which according to some reports it's bc they paid LG money to use it..) In order for it to work while still letting the phone going into deep sleep you need to wire the screen and the digitizer differently so the screen will stay off and the touch input will stay on.
regarding the fingerprint unlock - The problem with the fingerprint unlock is that unlike the iPhone.. it's just on the back. which is really not the comfortable to unlock like if it was on the front. again, the only reason it makes sense for them to go that way is bc maybe apple patented it(well actually apple patent everything.. Samsung just lost a case on court to Apple for slide to unlock..)
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Bullsh!t.
Ambient Display
I'm pretty sure there is no Double tap to wake on the new nexus phones due to them having Ambient Display. As with wireless charging being axed in favor of usb c, and double twist for camera being axed in favor of double pressing the power button, I think google just saw double tap to wake as redundant considering ambient display.
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DT2W is available almost exclusively on the LG G series.(and only a very few other handsets which according to some reports it's bc they paid LG money to use it..) In order for it to work while still letting the phone going into deep sleep you need to wire the screen and the digitizer differently so the screen will stay off and the touch input will stay on.
regarding the fingerprint unlock - The problem with the fingerprint unlock is that unlike the iPhone.. it's just on the back. which is really not the comfortable to unlock like if it was on the front. again, the only reason it makes sense for them to go that way is bc maybe apple patented it(well actually apple patent everything.. Samsung just lost a case on court to Apple for slide to unlock..)
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I actually think it's brilliant on the back of the phone. My finger goes there. The muscle memory to put your finger there to unlock it if you own one of the Nexus phones will take a week or two at the longest. It'll be second nature without even thinking about it in no time.
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Bullsh!t.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...g-that-could-force-samsung-to-change-products
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...g-that-could-force-samsung-to-change-products
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I think he was calling bullsh*t the other things you mentioned, not the most unimportant thing from your post. Regarding your statement about fingerprint on the back being not a good solution, if you watch all the hands on videos, most of the people mentioned that the fingerprint sensor is on the right spot for your index finger.
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I think he was calling bullsh*t the other things you mentioned, not the most unimportant thing from your post. Regarding your statement about fingerprint on the back being not a good solution, if you watch all the hands on videos, most of the people mentioned that the fingerprint sensor is on the right spot for your index finger.
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while you are already holding the phone in your hand yes, but if its on the table and you need to pick it up and unlock it with your index finger instead of just putting your thumb on it then its annoying.
Edit: btw many people didn't believe the slide to unlock patent and many many other patents Apple got(even the shape of the phone..they sued the Samsung galaxy line up not long ago for being to familiar with the Iphone line) and basically the consumers are loosing from all of these legal issues; Apple consumers and especially Android's(for those of you who are keeping track of the amount of patents Apple and even Microsoft sued android for).
You'd think Samsung, LG or any other OEM (or even google) decides to put a feature differently because it's 'better' that way, but behind the scenes you have no idea about the fact they legally they had to change they way they really wanted to implement it, or else they'd get sued.
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while you are already holding the phone in your hand yes, but if its on the table and you need to pick it up and unlock it with your index finger instead of just putting your thumb on it then its annoying.
Edit: btw many people didn't believe the slide to unlock patent and many many other patents Apple got(even the shape of the phone..they sued the Samsung galaxy line up not long ago for being to familiar with the Iphone line) and basically the consumers are loosing from all of these legal issues, apple and especially android. You'd Samsung, LG or any other OEM (or even google) decides to put a feature differently because it's 'better' that way, but behind the scenes you have no idea about the fact they legally had to change they way they really wanted to implement it.
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I agree, turning on the phone when sitting on a desk, when docked in a car dock, and when using android pay all would be easier with a front fingerprint scanner. My hand rarely goes above mid way on the back of the phone unless I am making a call.
Your underlying argument is solely based on using the phone without picking it up. I rarely, if not never, do that. With Android Wear, push bullet, ambient display, etc, I'm aware of my notifications before I have to interact with the phone. When I do interact with it, it is mostly because I have to type on the screen, which I wouldn't do with it lying on a desk. Its a hand held device, and typing/swyping is more comfortable while holding it.
I see it as a complete non issue. Mountain, meet mole hill.
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the fact they legally they had to change they way they really wanted to implement it, or else they'd get sued.
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Dat Spelling though.
Does anyone have a good article about the android sensor hub? I would like to learn more about how it works and what all it could be used for.
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I'm pretty sure there is no Double tap to wake on the new nexus phones due to them having Ambient Display. As with wireless charging being axed in favor of usb c, and double twist for camera being axed in favor of double pressing the power button, I think google just saw double tap to wake as redundant considering ambient display.
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i thought i read that nudge to wake was a thing. with ambient display, you don't need to touch your phone. just wave your hand over top of it.
Hey, have this phone from yesterday, europe dual sim version. How is for you the 3d face unlock?
I feel it's often inaccurate and in these cases it it does not unlock the phone.
Also, when i am in a dark room wit a good light behind me it's often inaccurate and, again, in these cases it it does not unlock the phone always.
In fact, if you try to register your face in this last condition you will see the face very very dark and this is a problem obviously for the face unlock.
I remember this last same "dark" problem also with the P20 Pro sensor.
What you think? Any solutions? Maybe in next updates?
Edit 1: https://www.reddit.com/r/Huawei/comments/9rnmpa/mate_20_pro_face_unlock_issues/
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I'm having similar issues here.. It will work perfectly sometimes and then just doesn't
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I'm having similar issues here.. It will work perfectly sometimes and then just doesn't
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just dont register your face in bad lighting conditions where it cannot be registered properly. I dont understand your problem tbh. Face unlock is a combination of the infrared thing and the camera.... if you use your phone while sitting in front of a bright light you cannot expect it to work. its like having wet or dirty fingers and comlpaining fingerprint isnt working.
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just dont register your face in bad lighting conditions where it cannot be registered properly. I dont understand your problem tbh. Face unlock is a combination of the infrared thing and the camera.... if you use your phone while sitting in front of a bright light you cannot expect it to work. its like having wet or dirty fingers and comlpaining fingerprint isnt working.
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Conditions are good.
if you use your phone while sitting in front of a bright light
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.... behind of a bright light, as written in first post, in fact if i try to register face in this last condition face is almost dark, but in this case the infrared camera should not help anyway?
With my iphone x in the SAME condition the face unlock works ALWAYS instantly, so i can see the difference.
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Conditions are good.
.... behind of a bright light, as written in first post, in fact if i try to register face in this last condition face is almost dark, but in this case the infrared camera should not help anyway?
With my iphone x in the SAME condition the face unlock works ALWAYS instantly, so i can see the difference.
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Well if you register your face in good lighting and the unlock does not work in good lighting then there is probably something wrong. You should contact huawei about that.
If you are trying to create a bad lighting condition on purpose and then it doesnt work I am not sure why you do this. There is no point. If you are in everyday live, like in a bar or pub and the lighting is bad you have to expect that face unlock is not going to be the most reliable. Its that simple. Sitting at home and trying to push it to its limits does not benefit you at all.
It is not as secure nor the same technology as face ID so there is no point in comparing them. If FaceID is better you have to accept it. No update can change the hardware.... maybe it will be optimized but it is not going to improve by 100%.
Surely ambient light has nothing to do with the face unlock method used here, as the camera is searching for an IR dot pattern. If anything, I'd expect it to work better in the dark.
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Well if you register your face in good lighting and the unlock does not work in good lighting then there is probably something wrong. You should contact huawei about that.
If you are trying to create a bad lighting condition on purpose and then it doesnt work I am not sure why you do this. There is no point. If you are in everyday live, like in a bar or pub and the lighting is bad you have to expect that face unlock is not going to be the most reliable. Its that simple. Sitting at home and trying to push it to its limits does not benefit you at all.
It is not as secure nor the same technology as face ID so there is no point in comparing them. If FaceID is better you have to accept it. No update can change the hardware.... maybe it will be optimized but it is not going to improve by 100%.
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It works in good light but it's not accurate like FaceID or also other 2D unlock tried until now. It's not accurate, for example, when I'm sitting in an armchair often it wants certain angles to unlock, etc..
I can understand your point about create "bad light condition". Until few days ago i had a One Plus 6 with 2D face unlock, but not only it, and in the same Mate 20 conditions i had no one single problem with angles or light behind me! Maybe it's a bit hard to explain..
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Surely ambient light has nothing to do with the face unlock method used here, as the camera is searching for an IR dot pattern. If anything, I'd expect it to work better in the dark.
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In fact it is the same thing that I thought! "Better in the dark", but in the evening when there is an artificial light behind me, sitting in an armchair, the unlock starts to have a bit of difficulty. And instead it should be the opposite, it should work better.
In this situation if i try to register my face in fact i see my face really dark cause the light behind me goes exactly on the sensor. Same thing with P20 Pro sensor. Only with Huawei i have seen this "problem". Nor with Samsung, nor with One Plus nor with Pocophone, etc..
It's really strange.
Check the software/EMUI problem thread, see if anyone else is reporting it. Otherwise, it's news to me.
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Check the software/EMUI problem thread, see if anyone else is reporting it. Otherwise, it's news to me.
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I think no one until now. Like no one with P20 Pro. Surely it's not fast like Apple Face ID. In same conditions. Sure about this because i have both with me so...
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In fact it is the same thing that I thought! "Better in the dark", but in the evening when there is an artificial light behind me, sitting in an armchair, the unlock starts to have a bit of difficulty. And instead it should be the opposite, it should work better.
In this situation if i try to register my face in fact i see my face really dark cause the light behind me goes exactly on the sensor. Same thing with P20 Pro sensor. Only with Huawei i have seen this "problem". Nor with Samsung, nor with One Plus nor with Pocophone, etc..
It's really strange.
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for comparison. I just tested bad lighting with my mate 10 pro... worked just fine... immediate unlock
i am not sure about the IR thing. it should definately work with no light but i am not sure if it is able to "work against" light. if your light sends out inrared wavelengths it will definately interfere with the IR projector. I am pretty sure though it sends out infrared wavelengths since it gets hot.... heat=infrared light (that how heat cameras work).
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I think no one until now. Like no one with P20 Pro. Surely it's not fast like Apple Face ID. In same conditions. Sure about this because i have both with me so...
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Apple were the first to introduce dot-mapping (or whatever they call the technology) to scan all areas, from left to right, of the face. The android versions on phones is more watered down...but it seems Huawei are using their own software of facial mapping which I imagine is designed to work the same as Face ID on Apple...but as there's some bugs with the pre-releases, I'd potentially wait and update the phone in 3-4 weeks to see if it resolve the issue.
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for comparison. I just tested bad lighting with my mate 10 pro... worked just fine... immediate unlock
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It was perfect in my "condition" with mate 10 pro with light behind me and against the cam. Because it used only the frontal cam! When i tried to register my face with Mate 10 in "my condition" my face was no dark and clearly visible!
This IS a big difference and here there is an "error" starting from P20 Pro to Mate 20 Pro.
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i am not sure about the IR thing. it should definately work with no light but i am not sure if it is able to "work against" light. if your light sends out inrared wavelengths it will definately interfere with the IR projector. I am pretty sure though it sends out infrared wavelengths since it gets hot.... heat=infrared light (that how heat cameras work).
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Perfect point of view. Problem is: with iPhone X the IR "thing" works PERFECT against light, etc..
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Apple were the first to introduce dot-mapping (or whatever they call the technology) to scan all areas, from left to right, of the face. The android versions on phones is more watered down...but it seems Huawei are using their own software of facial mapping which I imagine is designed to work the same as Face ID on Apple...but as there's some bugs with the pre-releases, I'd potentially wait and update the phone in 3-4 weeks to see if it resolve the issue.
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Yes, completely agree with you.
But i have a little doubt, this last comes from P20 PRO, also this with light behind me and against the sensor shows me my face all "dark" and obviously no update "fixed" this. I remember with this phone in my situation was IMPOSSIBLE use the 2D face unlock.
Idk honestly if an update here can improve this kind of sensor. I hope!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77998095&postcount=83
Facial recognition evidently hates sunlight. If your face is side on to the sun it won't work, you have to either be in shadow or directly in the sun. The fingerprint scanner I'm also finding to be very hit and miss. I have just been out using it to take some photos, lost count of the number of times both methods of unlocking didn't work.
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It seems to me like a directional or sensor spread issue,
If i hold the phone level with my eyes and head straight (straight neck) it works perfectly, if i'm at my desk with it in my hand looking down at it then it doesn't. If i raise my head and phone vertical as its giving me the 'recognising face' message then it unlocks just as i hit vertical/straight neck.
Problem is i look a t**t raising my phone every time i want to unlock it (looks like i'm checking myself out in a vanity mirror!!)
Had the iPhone XS before this and it worked flawlessly head down or not.
Can someone else who is having issues test this theory?
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What's interesting it recognises one finger well. With finger on the other hand it lags all the time. I re-added this finger three times and I gave up.
Fingerprint on this phone is the bottle neck of the UI. There was another complaint about the fingerprint from a user on another thread.
Maybe it was me.
I have not figured out a solution to this, but I get better at placing the finger in a way the sensor recognizes it more often. Still not all the time.
My wife's zf8 (non-flip) has the same issue, too.
Try moisturizer.
Did you try it?
My theory is sanitizers makes hands so dry that fingerprint look flat giving low definition.
Moisturiser makes the skin perk up a little. If you don't want to moisturiser. Just very lightly lick your thumb ( or whichever finger you have to unlock ) you don't want it wet you just want it slightly wet you'll unlock really fast.
If it doesn't work re-register the print with moistened hands. Also drink more water.
Do tell if this worked.
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Did you try it?
My theory is sanitizers makes hands so dry that fingerprint look flat giving low definition.
Moisturiser makes the skin perk up a little. If you don't want to moisturiser. Just very lightly lick your thumb ( or whichever finger you have to unlock ) you don't want it wet you just want it slightly wet you'll unlock really fast.
If it doesn't work re-register the print with moistened hands. Also drink more water.
Do tell if this worked.
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Actually works. Haha.
Glad it helped
so much lol.
actually I was not planning to lick my thumb every time the phone needs an unlock ... and since my thumbs and fingers work perefectly with other phones, tablets and PC-sensors, it must be the ZF8 (flip).
it bugged me (and my wife, too) so much that we sold the zenfones again and happily returned to Oneplus7 and Oneplus6T. Some new phones will turn up some time, maybe I can get a deal on oneplus9 phones...but the asus-experience I have to say was rather bad.
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so much lol.
actually I was not planning to lick my thumb every time the phone needs an unlock ... and since my thumbs and fingers work perefectly with other phones, tablets and PC-sensors, it must be the ZF8 (flip).
it bugged me (and my wife, too) so much that we sold the zenfones again and happily returned to Oneplus7 and Oneplus6T. Some new phones will turn up some time, maybe I can get a deal on oneplus9 phones...but the asus-experience I have to say was rather bad.
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I think the Oneplus 7 Pro is the last good Oneplus they made the 8 and 9 I couldn't like no matter what.
I like to mod and they seem to be mod unfriendly. I really like the ZF7 Pro, I love everything about it.
I am not a fan of Optical Fingerprint scanners. I wish they make the Zenfone 9 Flip with a capacitive scanner, like in ZF7 and Oneplus 6
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so much lol.
actually I was not planning to lick my thumb every time the phone needs an unlock ... and since my thumbs and fingers work perefectly with other phones, tablets and PC-sensors, it must be the ZF8 (flip).
it bugged me (and my wife, too) so much that we sold the zenfones again and happily returned to Oneplus7 and Oneplus6T. Some new phones will turn up some time, maybe I can get a deal on oneplus9 phones...but the asus-experience I have to say was rather bad.
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Actually i found a solution for fingerprint problem, go settings then advanced and turn on glove mode… my fingerprint problem solved
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Actually i found a solution for fingerprint problem, go settings then advanced and turn on glove mode… my fingerprint problem solved
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Actually solution is very easy.i think most of user just don't know do it properly. You may press a bit while to setup a finger print.once setup to unlock you don't need to press your finger.just put/touch a bit your finger to the spot and scanner will scan you finger easily. Can do repeatly and then you realise is actually easy to unlock this phone.
I added a second finger which is the same finger and it now works much better.
Hey
Did not realize the P6's didn't have Face unlock
Yes, this is a HUGE disappointment but I'm hopeful for it's return, along side the fingerprint sensor, in the next year or 2.
Yr sucks although most android face unlock phones are pretty bad and only work in good light then its hit and miss wish they would take a leaf out of apples face unlock at least it works flawlessly 99% of the time even in the dark only android phones with 3d facial unlocked that came near apples was from Huawei think p40 pro etc maybe 30 pro if remember correctly , I would of much preferred a side mounted fingerprint than a in display one there just as bad with screen protectors etc
Had many inexpensive Chinese 'phones where face unlock is flawless, in near darkness too. My Smartisan is superb in any light, my TCL 10 Pro not so good, even in good light. It has been suggested that face unlock is not very secure (particularly the Chinese models) but I've never managed to fool it with anyone else's face, in a mirror, photographs or random objects . I really like face unlock though one of the problems with more recent versions of Android is that you are often required to use a password after a number of hours have expired. This also applies to fingerprints too. I realise it is for security, but it truly is a pain. My Windows PC has face unlock and it not only recognises me at some distance, but so far I've not needed a password in nine months or so since buying it.
I work with my hands and my fingerprints must become worn, cut or just plain dirty and I find optical fingerprint readers fail to recognise my fingers or thumbs from day to day, hour to hour. Ultrasonic or at least physical fingerprint readers work far better for me. So if Google can add face unlock, I would be grateful. Even if it is a greater security risk.
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Had many inexpensive Chinese 'phones where face unlock is flawless, in near darkness too. My Smartisan is superb in any light, my TCL 10 Pro not so good, even in good light. It has been suggested that face unlock is not very secure (particularly the Chinese models) but I've never managed to fool it with anyone else's face, in a mirror, photographs or random objects . I really like face unlock though one of the problems with more recent versions of Android is that you are often required to use a password after a number of hours have expired. This also applies to fingerprints too. I realise it is for security, but it truly is a pain. My Windows PC has face unlock and it not only recognises me at some distance, but so far I've not needed a password in nine months or so since buying it.
I work with my hands and my fingerprints must become worn, cut or just plain dirty and I find optical fingerprint readers fail to recognise my fingers or thumbs from day to day, hour to hour. Ultrasonic or at least physical fingerprint readers work far better for me. So if Google can add face unlock, I would be grateful. Even if it is a greater security risk.
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I'm in the same boat, I'm old, my fingertips are worn and getting fp unlock to work is a challenge at best.
On my OP7 (current device) I've been using face unlock for almost 2 years without a single issue. When I initially set it up I was only messing around so I set it up in bed while watching TV, with very dim lighting. But thanks to that it works every time, it's never failed under any lighting and 7 times out of 10 even works at the grocery when I'm wearing my mask.
I'll be using Swipe or None on my Pixel 6 lockscreen now because Google removed face unlock "for security" ... not sure how Swipe/None are more secure though, it's simply ridiculous and makes no sense at all.
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I'm in the same boat, I'm old, my fingertips are worn and getting fp unlock to work is a challenge at best.
On my OP7 (current device) I've been using face unlock for almost 2 years without a single issue. When I initially set it up I was only messing around so I set it up in bed while watching TV, with very dim lighting. But thanks to that it works every time, it's never failed under any lighting and 7 times out of 10 even works at the grocery when I'm wearing my mask.
I'll be using Swipe or None on my Pixel 6 lockscreen now because Google removed face unlock "for security" ... not sure how Swipe/None are more secure though, it's simply ridiculous and makes no sense at all.
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I do wish they had both and was kind of counting on it due to earlier reports. I am also, I'll call it elderly since "old" seems to be a state of mind. I have trouble sometimes with FP especially in certain environments such as dry weather or wrinkly skin after swimming. I've taken to one hand mode so I can enter the keys rather quickly although I do curse at it most of the time. My experience with face unlock on the P4 was rather good in all kinds of lighting until face masks became ubiquitous. Then it didn't work at all. Apple figured it out but you needed an iWatch (is that what they call it?) in order to make it flawless and that is not acceptable to most users of Android. But hopefully they will enable both in the future perhaps with a software update or dare I say it, the P7?
mkstevo said:
Had many inexpensive Chinese 'phones where face unlock is flawless, in near darkness too.
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Your face is now the property of the PRC.
I suspect Face Unlock will show up on the Pixel 6 in due time. Unfortunate that is not there in release.
I wouldn't be surprised for this to show up as a software update in the future officially, given the difficulties being experienced with the in-screen fingerprint sensor combined with screen protectors.
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Almost certainly! Especially as a few have been direct imports of brands not sold (widely, if at all) out of the Chinese markets.