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It seems like the new Android sensor hub didn't receive too much attention, even though it's one of the biggest features of the new Nexus line.
According to the presentation, the new Android sensor hub chip will act as a low-power chip that will make it possible for the phone to be in deep sleep, while still ''active'' for user input. That doesn't mean only voice commands, but movement as well.
That means that it'll act as some apps have been doing for a lot of time(like Gravity), although this time there will be no battery drain, instead of the 5%-10% daily, because while using those apps your phone can't get into deep sleep.
Personally as the 6p and 5X won't have DT2W(probably because it's a LG patent) this seems like the best feature to open your phone, as every time you'll pick it up or take it out of the pocket, it'll unlock automatically, and the screen won't shut off while you are holding the device as it'll know it's moving in your hand, even while holding it just to read news.
Seems like the best new feature so far.
I dont think DT2W is an LG thing.... my N9 has it and I think they were made by HTC? The 6P will have single tap to wake using the fingerprint sensor which I think will be amazingly handy
I believe in the demo, ambient display is activated by picking it up due to the 'Sensor Hub', and you can swipe to unlock from there. No power button pushing. This is assuming you don't have a screen lock or have smart lock setup.
WoodroweBones said:
I dont think DT2W is an LG thing.... my N9 has it and I think they were made by HTC? The 6P will have single tap to wake using the fingerprint sensor which I think will be amazingly handy
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I thought dt2w is a snapdragon thing
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I thought dt2w is a snapdragon thing
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I thought it was just a kernel thing
DT2W is available almost exclusively on the LG G series.(and only a very few other handsets which according to some reports it's bc they paid LG money to use it..) In order for it to work while still letting the phone going into deep sleep you need to wire the screen and the digitizer differently so the screen will stay off and the touch input will stay on.
regarding the fingerprint unlock - The problem with the fingerprint unlock is that unlike the iPhone.. it's just on the back. which is really not the comfortable to unlock like if it was on the front. again, the only reason it makes sense for them to go that way is bc maybe apple patented it(well actually apple patent everything.. Samsung just lost a case on court to Apple for slide to unlock..)
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DT2W is available almost exclusively on the LG G series.(and only a very few other handsets which according to some reports it's bc they paid LG money to use it..) In order for it to work while still letting the phone going into deep sleep you need to wire the screen and the digitizer differently so the screen will stay off and the touch input will stay on.
regarding the fingerprint unlock - The problem with the fingerprint unlock is that unlike the iPhone.. it's just on the back. which is really not the comfortable to unlock like if it was on the front. again, the only reason it makes sense for them to go that way is bc maybe apple patented it(well actually apple patent everything.. Samsung just lost a case on court to Apple for slide to unlock..)
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Every Chinese phone nowadays has DT2W. HTC, Oneplus, ZTE and many other manufacturers have several handsets with the feature. Apple haven't patented having a fingerprint sensor on the front last I checked otherwise Samsung would be facing legal action by now.
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DT2W is available almost exclusively on the LG G series.(and only a very few other handsets which according to some reports it's bc they paid LG money to use it..) In order for it to work while still letting the phone going into deep sleep you need to wire the screen and the digitizer differently so the screen will stay off and the touch input will stay on.
regarding the fingerprint unlock - The problem with the fingerprint unlock is that unlike the iPhone.. it's just on the back. which is really not the comfortable to unlock like if it was on the front. again, the only reason it makes sense for them to go that way is bc maybe apple patented it(well actually apple patent everything.. Samsung just lost a case on court to Apple for slide to unlock..)
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So maybe Google paid LG to use it in the N9?
Also almost every reviewer has preferred the rear fingerprint sensor to the front one. Your hand naturally falls there making it incredibly easy to use
I read an article that claimed Nokia invented DT2W and LG decided to claim it as their own. The N6 didn't get released with DT2W and it didn't take too long for someone to enable it. I've become used to it over the past two years, and it'll take time getting used to the fingerprint scanner.
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It seems like the new Android sensor hub didn't receive too much attention, even though it's one of the biggest features of the new Nexus line.
According to the presentation, the new Android sensor hub chip will act as a low-power chip that will make it possible for the phone to be in deep sleep, while still ''active'' for user input. That doesn't mean only voice commands, but movement as well.
That means that it'll act as some apps have been doing for a lot of time(like Gravity), although this time there will be no battery drain, instead of the 5%-10% daily, because while using those apps your phone can't get into deep sleep.
Personally as the 6p and 5X won't have DT2W(probably because it's a LG patent) this seems like the best feature to open your phone, as every time you'll pick it up or take it out of the pocket, it'll unlock automatically, and the screen won't shut off while you are holding the device as it'll know it's moving in your hand, even while holding it just to read news.
Seems like the best new feature so far.
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This and Doze pushed me over the edge when deciding on upgrading from the N6. I'm perfectly happy on the N6, I don't find it to be too big (but the cupholder in my car does), love Chroma running on it, and haven't felt the need to tweak and fiddle with stuff nearly as much as any other device I've had. For me, that's the hallmark of a great device & ROM. These 2 features + bigger battery really sealed the deal though.
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DT2W is available almost exclusively on the LG G series.(and only a very few other handsets which according to some reports it's bc they paid LG money to use it..) In order for it to work while still letting the phone going into deep sleep you need to wire the screen and the digitizer differently so the screen will stay off and the touch input will stay on.
regarding the fingerprint unlock - The problem with the fingerprint unlock is that unlike the iPhone.. it's just on the back. which is really not the comfortable to unlock like if it was on the front. again, the only reason it makes sense for them to go that way is bc maybe apple patented it(well actually apple patent everything.. Samsung just lost a case on court to Apple for slide to unlock..)
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Bullsh!t.
Ambient Display
I'm pretty sure there is no Double tap to wake on the new nexus phones due to them having Ambient Display. As with wireless charging being axed in favor of usb c, and double twist for camera being axed in favor of double pressing the power button, I think google just saw double tap to wake as redundant considering ambient display.
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DT2W is available almost exclusively on the LG G series.(and only a very few other handsets which according to some reports it's bc they paid LG money to use it..) In order for it to work while still letting the phone going into deep sleep you need to wire the screen and the digitizer differently so the screen will stay off and the touch input will stay on.
regarding the fingerprint unlock - The problem with the fingerprint unlock is that unlike the iPhone.. it's just on the back. which is really not the comfortable to unlock like if it was on the front. again, the only reason it makes sense for them to go that way is bc maybe apple patented it(well actually apple patent everything.. Samsung just lost a case on court to Apple for slide to unlock..)
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I actually think it's brilliant on the back of the phone. My finger goes there. The muscle memory to put your finger there to unlock it if you own one of the Nexus phones will take a week or two at the longest. It'll be second nature without even thinking about it in no time.
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Bullsh!t.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...g-that-could-force-samsung-to-change-products
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...g-that-could-force-samsung-to-change-products
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I think he was calling bullsh*t the other things you mentioned, not the most unimportant thing from your post. Regarding your statement about fingerprint on the back being not a good solution, if you watch all the hands on videos, most of the people mentioned that the fingerprint sensor is on the right spot for your index finger.
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I think he was calling bullsh*t the other things you mentioned, not the most unimportant thing from your post. Regarding your statement about fingerprint on the back being not a good solution, if you watch all the hands on videos, most of the people mentioned that the fingerprint sensor is on the right spot for your index finger.
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while you are already holding the phone in your hand yes, but if its on the table and you need to pick it up and unlock it with your index finger instead of just putting your thumb on it then its annoying.
Edit: btw many people didn't believe the slide to unlock patent and many many other patents Apple got(even the shape of the phone..they sued the Samsung galaxy line up not long ago for being to familiar with the Iphone line) and basically the consumers are loosing from all of these legal issues; Apple consumers and especially Android's(for those of you who are keeping track of the amount of patents Apple and even Microsoft sued android for).
You'd think Samsung, LG or any other OEM (or even google) decides to put a feature differently because it's 'better' that way, but behind the scenes you have no idea about the fact they legally they had to change they way they really wanted to implement it, or else they'd get sued.
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while you are already holding the phone in your hand yes, but if its on the table and you need to pick it up and unlock it with your index finger instead of just putting your thumb on it then its annoying.
Edit: btw many people didn't believe the slide to unlock patent and many many other patents Apple got(even the shape of the phone..they sued the Samsung galaxy line up not long ago for being to familiar with the Iphone line) and basically the consumers are loosing from all of these legal issues, apple and especially android. You'd Samsung, LG or any other OEM (or even google) decides to put a feature differently because it's 'better' that way, but behind the scenes you have no idea about the fact they legally had to change they way they really wanted to implement it.
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I agree, turning on the phone when sitting on a desk, when docked in a car dock, and when using android pay all would be easier with a front fingerprint scanner. My hand rarely goes above mid way on the back of the phone unless I am making a call.
Your underlying argument is solely based on using the phone without picking it up. I rarely, if not never, do that. With Android Wear, push bullet, ambient display, etc, I'm aware of my notifications before I have to interact with the phone. When I do interact with it, it is mostly because I have to type on the screen, which I wouldn't do with it lying on a desk. Its a hand held device, and typing/swyping is more comfortable while holding it.
I see it as a complete non issue. Mountain, meet mole hill.
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the fact they legally they had to change they way they really wanted to implement it, or else they'd get sued.
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Dat Spelling though.
Does anyone have a good article about the android sensor hub? I would like to learn more about how it works and what all it could be used for.
andreoidb said:
I'm pretty sure there is no Double tap to wake on the new nexus phones due to them having Ambient Display. As with wireless charging being axed in favor of usb c, and double twist for camera being axed in favor of double pressing the power button, I think google just saw double tap to wake as redundant considering ambient display.
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i thought i read that nudge to wake was a thing. with ambient display, you don't need to touch your phone. just wave your hand over top of it.
Does anyone know if the fingerprint reader works without actually having to push it and just rest your finger on the reader?
Yes, it does.
Yes it does and in fact, it is the fastest sensor I have used. I received mine yesterday and it has been great.
It is a million times better than my note 5 fingerprint scanner. No need to wake the screen with the G5!
This feature is invaluable and its placement really is perfect.
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Yes it does and in fact, it is the fastest sensor I have used. I received mine yesterday and it has been great.
It is a million times better than my note 5 fingerprint scanner. No need to wake the screen with the G5!
This feature is invaluable and its placement really is perfect.
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Sounds like the same setup as the Nexus 6P, which was amazing. I really miss it on my S7 Edge, which usually fails the first attempt every time I try and unlock it.
Yes s7 edge sensor is crap compared to the nexus 6p. I might sell my s7 and go to LG g5.
I'm shopping for a new phone and a fingerprint scanner is a key factor. I'm looking at the G5 or the Nexus 6P. Both have the scanner where I'd like it os it's a hard choice. The G5 has the smaller screen which I like too.
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I'm shopping for a new phone and a fingerprint scanner is a key factor. I'm looking at the G5 or the Nexus 6P. Both have the scanner where I'd like it os it's a hard choice. The G5 has the smaller screen which I like too.
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Well the price is a huge difference too. Really i'll have to see the G5 in person. I have the 6P. Not sure I can justify the extra doe even if I prefer smaller. Might wait a few months if I do like it. Doesn't hurt to take either device on a 14 day testing trail
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Yes it does and in fact, it is the fastest sensor I have used. I received mine yesterday and it has been great.
It is a million times better than my note 5 fingerprint scanner. No need to wake the screen with the G5!
This feature is invaluable and its placement really is perfect.
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If your phone lies on the table and you want to unlock it to check some stuff, how do you do this ? You must lift the phone from the table, and put your index finger on the scanner. While on any front sensor placement phone, you don't have to lift the phone from the table.
When the phone is in your pocket, when you take it out it is much easier to unlock it when the front button has the sensor, actually trying to put the index finger on the sensor is cumbersome and creates instability while holding the phone.
When you are using payment services, it is much easier to use your thumb to unlock it while the screen is facing towards you, because you can then hold the phone near the scanner while securely holding it. Using the index finger creates unwanted instability.
This placement doesn't look "perfect" at all to me. It's just a way for the manufacturers to differentiate in a bad way and not look like copycats for Apple and Samsung, while saving some money and making the phone more compact. It is much easier for a manufacturer to place the sensor on the back on the phone because there are no connectors needed, the sensor is soldered directly on the mainboard. But the ergonomy is really bad.
joshuadjohnson22 said:
Well the price is a huge difference too. Really i'll have to see the G5 in person. I have the 6P. Not sure I can justify the extra doe even if I prefer smaller. Might wait a few months if I do like it. Doesn't hurt to take either device on a 14 day testing trail
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Sadly, I can't do the 14 day trial testing. My contract is considered a Sprint employee contract. Both phones appeal to my liking. The G5 is new and has no development, which is normal for a just released device. The 6P has tons of development, but the size is a little large. I have been using the Note series since the first release but 5.7 inch display is as large as I want to go. I just don't personally have the need and my hands are small. I can always start up the battle between removable batteries and SDcards but at the end of the day I really want a phone that can last me as long as the Note 3 when it comes down to mods and over all enjoyment of the device. Being able to root and flash is important too, and with the news of some recently release devices having locked bootloaders make me leery of new phones. To be honest, Samsung is just not making moves that make me want to spend money on their devices. I'm going to have to wait and see how things turn out before forking over part of my paycheck.
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Sadly, I can't do the 14 day trial testing. My contract is considered a Sprint employee contract. Both phones appeal to my liking. The G5 is new and has no development, which is normal for a just released device. The 6P has tons of development, but the size is a little large. I have been using the Note series since the first release but 5.7 inch display is as large as I want to go. I just don't personally have the need and my hands are small. I can always start up the battle between removable batteries and SDcards but at the end of the day I really want a phone that can last me as long as the Note 3 when it comes down to mods and over all enjoyment of the device. Being able to root and flash is important too, and with the news of some recently release devices having locked bootloaders make me leery of new phones. To be honest, Samsung is just not making moves that make me want to spend money on their devices. I'm going to have to wait and see how things turn out before forking over part of my paycheck.
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Yeah, I love the 6P... clearly the best phone I have had. I just which they made a smaller version of it. It is large and you will quickly get used to the size but then for work I have a smaller phone and find that I miss it. I do prefer LCD over AMOLED which is probably the number 2 reason I would even consider the G5 or the HTC 10. I will play with one at the store to see if it is even worth considering or if I should wait to see what the HTC 10 has to offer. EIther way I wouldn't buy it right now since LG's phones usually drop in price a few months after launch. I'd also go for the international version because after owning the AT&T G4 I noticed that it'll probably never have development with a locked bootloader.
SD cards and removable battery are pluses but I can live without them. Really the only reason I sold my G4 was because of lack of fingerprint reader and usb type C which this clearly fixes. We will have to see my thoughts this afternoon...
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Well the price is a huge difference too. Really i'll have to see the G5 in person. I have the 6P. Not sure I can justify the extra doe even if I prefer smaller. Might wait a few months if I do like it. Doesn't hurt to take either device on a 14 day testing trail
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joshuadjohnson22 said:
Yeah, I love the 6P... clearly the best phone I have had. I just which they made a smaller version of it. It is large and you will quickly get used to the size but then for work I have a smaller phone and find that I miss it. I do prefer LCD over AMOLED which is probably the number 2 reason I would even consider the G5 or the HTC 10. I will play with one at the store to see if it is even worth considering or if I should wait to see what the HTC 10 has to offer. EIther way I wouldn't buy it right now since LG's phones usually drop in price a few months after launch. I'd also go for the international version because after owning the AT&T G4 I noticed that it'll probably never have development with a locked bootloader.
SD cards and removable battery are pluses but I can live without them. Really the only reason I sold my G4 was because of lack of fingerprint reader and usb type C which this clearly fixes. We will have to see my thoughts this afternoon...
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I will say the only thing I don't like about the rumored HTC 10 is the placement of the fingerpirnt scanner. I like the idea of it being on the back. I know someone commented on the placement not being good as it being on the front but those points didn't sway me even though they made great sense.
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I will say the only thing I don't like about the rumored HTC 10 is the placement of the fingerpirnt scanner. I like the idea of it being on the back. I know someone commented on the placement not being good as it being on the front but those points didn't sway me even though they made great sense.
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Yeah but it all depends on how the phone feels in the hand, if it is small enough it wont be a problem. I wish someone would put 2 fingerprint readers on the phone. I love the one on the back but when I have it on my desk I have to enter my stupid code every time which gets annoying.
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Yeah but it all depends on how the phone feels in the hand, if it is small enough it wont be a problem. I wish someone would put 2 fingerprint readers on the phone. I love the one on the back but when I have it on my desk I have to enter my stupid code every time which gets annoying.
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Yeah, I've always hated the Pins, passwords, and the patterns on phones. Face unlocks are a joke for now. My wife's S6 fingerprint scanner doesn't always work the first time, but that could be a thumb placement issue. I'd like to see a retinal scanner on a phone that works, but pipe dreams, no?
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Yeah, I've always hated the Pins, passwords, and the patterns on phones. Face unlocks are a joke for now. My wife's S6 fingerprint scanner doesn't always work the first time, but that could be a thumb placement issue. I'd like to see a retinal scanner on a phone that works, but pipe dreams, no?
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Yeah that would be interesting but probably be a bit before they can shrink it down and have it fast enough. Or a under the digitizer finger print reader which is probably what is next. It would be cool to place your finger anywhere on the screen and have it unlock.
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Yeah that would be interesting but probably be a bit before they can shrink it down and have it fast enough. Or a under the digitizer finger print reader which is probably what is next. It would be cool to place your finger anywhere on the screen and have it unlock.
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Indeed it would be. More than likely will be next years big idea for flagships.
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Indeed it would be. More than likely will be next years big idea for flagships.
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yeah, it may be in the new iPhone this year since they removed the home button so it is likely the rest of them will add it as a response.
Hi guys, I just received my LG G5 from Verizon last night. Strangely, on my unit I need to press the fingerprint sensor button rather firmly for it to register. Is this the case for anyone else?
Charkol said:
Hi guys, I just received my LG G5 from Verizon last night. Strangely, on my unit I need to press the fingerprint sensor button rather firmly for it to register. Is this the case for anyone else?
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First I've seen this. Everyone else is commenting how quickly it works by just "touching" and not "pressing" down. Mine works very well workout any pressing.
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First I've seen this. Everyone else is commenting how quickly it works by just "touching" and not "pressing" down. Mine works very well workout any pressing.
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Yeah on my G5 from T-Mobile all I need to do is rest my finger on the sensor and it unlocks the screen, no pressing required.
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First I've seen this. Everyone else is commenting how quickly it works by just "touching" and not "pressing" down. Mine works very well workout any pressing.
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Yeah on my G5 from T-Mobile all I need to do is rest my finger on the sensor and it unlocks the screen, no pressing required.
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Thanks for your replies. I talked to LG yesterday and they are looking into this. I will let you know what they say. Last night while my phone was plugged into the charger, the fingerprint scanner was working correctly and all I had to do was rest my finger on it. Now it's morning and unplugged, and I have to press the button firmly again for it to register.
i dont get it, majority moan and down rate Samsung for its location, i find it perfect as when i hold or pickup the phone my index finger naturally extends to the sensor
Seems like the only reviewer agreeing on this
https://youtu.be/esdpijm0BCc?t=246
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i dont get it, majority moan and down rate Samsung for its location, i find it perfect as when i hold or pickup the phone my index finger naturally extends to the sensor
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I like it too...
Because it is hard to reach without changing holding position for most people. I need to hold the phone tight on both sides for my index to access the sensor but in this position I can't use my phone coz my thumb is not long enough to touch the other end of screen so everytime I have to move my hand up and down to unlock and use. The back of phone is very slippery and when my focus is somewhere else there is a chance the phone might slip and fall while unlocking if I am not careful. Pixel/6p like sensor position would've worked the best for note.
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Because it is hard to reach without changing holding position for most people. I need to hold the phone tight on both sides for my index to access the sensor but in this position I can't use my phone coz my thumb is not long enough to touch the other end of screen so everytime I have to move my hand up and down to unlock and use. The back of phone is very slippery and when my focus is somewhere else there is a chance the phone might slip and fall while unlocking if I am not careful. Pixel/6p like sensor position would've worked the best for note.
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i guess we handle differently, i always pickup phone holding it both sides with one hand but then soon after unlock i ease the grip and start holding phone however i wish
It's in the perfect place for me too. The bixby button is in a bad place personally, because I still tap it accidentally holding my phone. I just got a new bike mount for my phone and the sides hit the button too if I center the phone on the holder.
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i dont get it, majority moan and down rate Samsung for its location, i find it perfect as when i hold or pickup the phone my index finger naturally extends to the sensor
Seems like the only reviewer agreeing on this
https://youtu.be/esdpijm0BCc?t=246
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Works great and feels natural if you hold the phone right handed, but I hold my phone left handed. Wish I held my phone in my right hand and I would be golden then.
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i guess we handle differently, i always pickup phone holding it both sides with one hand but then soon after unlock i ease the grip and start holding phone however i wish
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It just worries me sometimes because it's so shiny and expensive . Probably wont mind after using it for a month or so. It's not a dealbreaker but I hate it when a product gets everything right except "that one thing".
I have know issues with it all
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i dont get it, majority moan and down rate Samsung for its location, i find it perfect as when i hold or pickup the phone my index finger naturally extends to the sensor
Seems like the only reviewer agreeing on this
https://youtu.be/esdpijm0BCc?t=246
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apparently a lot of people have small hands or no finger muscle memory......or those people seems to hold their phones all the way at the bottom to the point that their thumb is at least an inch or more below the power bottom. for small hands people if their thumb is on the power button then index finger will fall right on the fingerprint reader or for people with a bit larger hands if thumb is at the bottom or right below the power button then index finger would land right on the reader. but people hold their phones differently than others and there will always be people who complain just to complain.
coming from the v20 I find that the fingerprint reader placement on the Note 8 is actually in the perfect spot for me, its easy to reach with one hand or even if holding the phone with both hands.
i dont have any issues either - for a regular/medium sized hand user. fingerprint registers at least 95% of the time with no issues with reach.
Personally I don't even use fingerprint (face recognition works most of the time) that much and placement doesn't bother me, until I use the phone while driving, which is often. The way my phone is mounted face recognition doesn't work, fingerprint sensor is out of reach and typing passwords in heavy traffic I usually find myself in, could be hair raising. My car has BT, so it unlocks while connected , but my wife's car doesn't have BT, so have to risk accident or ticket, sometimes both. But I love my N8 and sensor is on my "could be done better, but I can live with it" list. Sometimes I ask myself why I'm locking my phone and from whom, but that's another topic.
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Personally I don't even use fingerprint (face recognition works most of the time) that much and placement doesn't bother me, until I use the phone while driving, which is often. The way my phone is mounted face recognition doesn't work, fingerprint sensor is out of reach and typing passwords in heavy traffic I usually find myself in, could be hair raising. My car has BT, so it unlocks while connected , but my wife's car doesn't have BT, so have to risk accident or ticket, sometimes both. But I love my N8 and sensor is on my "could be done better, but I can live with it" list. Sometimes I ask myself why I'm locking my phone and from whom, but that's another topic.
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I use Iris scanner primarily but later at night when I'm in bed I prefer using the fingerprint scanner so I don't blind myself or my wife who's sitting beside me in bed.
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i dont get it, majority moan and down rate Samsung for its location, i find it perfect as when i hold or pickup the phone my index finger naturally extends to the sensor
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The placement is fine for me but I think it would be better if it were centered. Just so that it's as easy for left-handed ppl. Same way I would like samsung to let us turn the gear s3 screen upside down for those who like to wear their watches on the right wrist.
I have smaller hands, and it works perfect for me. In fact , now after having the phone for a few days, I can work it lefty or righty. Kinda like it better now, didn't think I would say that , but man that big unblocked screen is nice.
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honestly i dont know.. the only time i use the fingerprint sensor is to set my fingerprint.
I also setup IRIS recognition. most of the time before i move my finger to the sensor it already detected my eyes and unlocked the phone.
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i dont get it, majority moan and down rate Samsung for its location, i find it perfect as when i hold or pickup the phone my index finger naturally extends to the sensor
Seems like the only reviewer agreeing on this
https://youtu.be/esdpijm0BCc?t=246
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I had the same opinion when i had not actually used the phone(or an s8), but since getting a note 8 it really is great placement IMO. its easy and way faster than any other unlock. TBH i only recently realised i didnt have to actually wake the phone to use the fingerprint haha i was too used to pressing power and then scanning like on my old s7edge.
The placement is great for me, i practically unlock the phone as its slideing out of my pocket like i would any other, but with the added functionality of not actually needing to wake the phone it is actually faster than it was on the old models with the sensor on the front.
speaking from a pull out of pocket senario, i think it is probably easier to drop your phone pulling it out and unlocking it from the front, this new placement you can slide it out with full grip on the phone.
what floats your boat, sinks others! I hate it. And if Samsung truly believed it works, why place the sensor back on the front (target future S9/Note 9)?
I thought it would a problem. Once I got used to it. I have no issues works great.
I don't like it.
It has nothing to do with hand size. It cracks me up when new phones come out and people start giving their physical stats as if they're looking for a date.
My phone is usually lying face up. It was much easier to reach over to the table, placing my thumb on the sensor while grasping the phone. It was almost a single move.
Then there were the times it would be on my desk at work standing on my desk with the vertical kickstand. I could simply press the button, holding my thumb on it unlocking it. Didn't have to turn the phone or even pick it up from the desk.
So basically, it was easier due to the fact that the phone could be unlocked without even grasping it.
Yep, pefect place.
The center on the LG phone never felt natural to me.
I absolutely hate the fingerprint scanner. It's slow and always gives an error message of no match or press harder. This is even without a screen protector and with the extra sensitivity enabled. I've even watched videos on how to scan fingerprints to get a better read for unlocking. I'm thinking of eliminating the lock altogether, which is not my first preference. I read where someone reset their phone and it seemed better, but I'm really not in the mood for that - too much time invested. Anybody have anything to suggest?
I'm not an iPhone fan, but I've seen people use the fingerprint scanner on those and they fly.
Note 10 snapdragon. Fingerprint reader is stupid fast and reliable 100% of the time for me.After the September update its even better. Even with a glass screen protector, if its installed properly, it works reasonably well and is reliable.If you have problems on a naked display, either you aren't scanning the fingerprints properly or just have burnt your fingerprints lol or its a hardware problem.
I agree with @jass65, I have no issues whatsoever, furthermore I don't even use it often as I prefer the face unlock, I know its much less secure, but its secure enough for me, but when I do use it....it works with no issues.
Default screen protector and thumb scanned twice
I use facelock and fingerprint and although facelock is insecure i had to resort to it as fingerprint, on its own and in comparison to N9 one, is slow for my taste.
I have the Snapdragon version. Finger print scanner gives me issues to. But my issue is that I have dry rough hands from manual labor when I was a kid. Sometimes it just doesn't want to work. Others it's blazing fast.
It works great when I put some hand lotion on my hands... LOL My fingerprints are all pretty messed up from dryness, rough work and such. Even with the messed up fingerprints, it still works when I try a couple of times and also leaving the finger on the sensor a little longer.
Same here: works great most of the time, but gets finicky if my fingers are unusually dry. I think maybe the lower friction with dry fingers causes the finger to move a bit during scanning. If I make an extra effort to hold still against the glass, then it works.
But what I usually find myself doing is quickly moistening my finger with my lips, as people in prior centuries used to do when turning the pages of books.
Gary02468 said:
Same here: works great most of the time, but gets finicky if my fingers are unusually dry. I think maybe the lower friction with dry fingers causes the finger to move a bit during scanning. If I make an extra effort to hold still against the glass, then it works.
But what I usually find myself doing is quickly moistening my finger with my lips, as people in prior centuries used to do when turning the pages of books.
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I think you guys are right - dry skin is a problem for reader. The moistening suggestion works, but I'm not happy with that. I've re-scanned my fingerprints at least 3 times, and the last time has been the best. One difference was when scanning, I put my flat thumb down several times until finished, but without rolling it to get sides, until the second part of the scan asked for that. I feel this has produced better results.
might not matter here, but comparing speeds to my OP7 Pro (yes I know different technology) the OP7 Pro is almost instant whereas the Note takes a few seconds. Just from what i've seen.
i have registered all 4 four fingers as as my thumb ! it works just fine after that !
I'm not impressed by it (Exynos). If the fix Sansung is making to improve security and the effectiveness with use of a screen protector, wouldn't they be better selling the OE screen protectors?
Although fingerprints work initially, after 1 or 2 days they are not accurate. Exynos
I have recently got an S21 Exynos version and the fingerprint reader is useless.
I have the standard screen protector it came with on it and have tried training it multiple times and even doing the same finger more than once and the best I get is sometimes it works 80% of the time and then at other times of the day it'll fail 100%.
I'm not sure if it depends on if my hands are cold or warm and looking at my fingers my fingerprints don't look particularly pronounced but as it stands the phone may as well not have a fingerprint scanner.
Previous phones with dedicated fingerprint sensors have been better but never perfect.
Is this just me or do others have lots of problems too?
This is my first phone with an in-display fingerprint reader, and I certainly prefer ones like the one on my old Note 9, which were literally flawless.
That said, I would classify this one as "serviceable". It doesn't always work, though some of that might be my dry fingers/hands from all the washing and drier winter air. It seems to be improving in reliability as the weather warms and the air gets more humid. I do occasionally fail enough on the fingerprint that I have to enter my password, which is annoying to say the least.
Blowing warm, moist air on my fingers does tend to help, but then I tend to smudge up the screen a bit more. Oh well. Something I'll have to live with.
Hurricane Andrew said:
This is my first phone with an in-display fingerprint reader, and I certainly prefer ones like the one on my old Note 9, which were literally flawless.
That said, I would classify this one as "serviceable". It doesn't always work, though some of that might be my dry fingers/hands from all the washing and drier winter air. It seems to be improving in reliability as the weather warms and the air gets more humid. I do occasionally fail enough on the fingerprint that I have to enter my password, which is annoying to say the least.
Blowing warm, moist air on my fingers does tend to help, but then I tend to smudge up the screen a bit more. Oh well. Something I'll have to live with.
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Thanks for the quick reply, glad to hear it's working reasonably for you.
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It doesn't always work, though some of that might be my dry fingers/hands from all the washing and drier winter air. It seems to be improving in reliability as the weather warms and the air gets more humid.
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This is 100% why. Throw some lotion on your hands and it will work 100%. Plus, you'll feel better.
entropism said:
This is 100% why. Throw some lotion on your hands and it will work 100%. Plus, you'll feel better.
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Sadly this doesn't seem to make any difference.
It's very erratic, sometimes it works several times in a row but at others it doesn't work at all for multiple attempts.
Very odd.
I've recently got my S21 and rather quickly found out that I have to push the screen very lightly and it works almost every time. To begin with I assumend that I had to push quite hard, but doing that it didn't work very well, so I stumpled on the light press tip. Anyone else with the same experiences?
Harboe said:
I've recently got my S21 and rather quickly found out that I have to push the screen very lightly and it works almost every time. To begin with I assumend that I had to push quite hard, but doing that it didn't work very well, so I stumpled on the light press tip. Anyone else with the same experiences?
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It worked with the factory protector on it every time. No need to press deep or medium even. Just worked. Soon as a o removed this for some glass protection, boom. It simply will not work. And I've blown way too much money on protectors that do not work! Really sad, since I came from multiple Chinese budget flagships that do this perfectly. Since they use light instead of sound/vibrations.
Ollie2 said:
I have recently got an S21 Exynos version and the fingerprint reader is useless.
I have the standard screen protector it came with on it and have tried training it multiple times and even doing the same finger more than once and the best I get is sometimes it works 80% of the time and then at other times of the day it'll fail 100%.
I'm not sure if it depends on if my hands are cold or warm and looking at my fingers my fingerprints don't look particularly pronounced but as it stands the phone may as well not have a fingerprint scanner.
Previous phones with dedicated fingerprint sensors have been better but never perfect.
Is this just me or do others have lots of problems too?
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I've switched from my trusty old Oneplus 5T to the S21 Exynos version, and I'm seriously regretting it. The fingerprint sensor is useless with or without a screen protector, and with Settings -> Display -> Touch Sensitivity turned on. I've deleted all fingerprints and rescanned them in multiple times (obviously after removing/applying a screen protector) and nothing works.
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I've switched from my trusty old Oneplus 5T to the S21 Exynos version, and I'm seriously regretting it. The fingerprint sensor is useless with or without a screen protector, and with Settings -> Display -> Touch Sensitivity turned on. I've deleted all fingerprints and rescanned them in multiple times (obviously after removing/applying a screen protector) and nothing works.
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I've gone back to thin film for the display. It will not provide any drop protection but this way the fingerprint works of the time. Like it does without the protector. First time in many many years I'm skipping glass protection. I actively avoid curved displays and one reason for that is the glass protectors are horrible compared to flat display protectors.
I don't have any kind of screen on my S21 and so far (only had it a couple of days) the fingerprint sensor has been pretty reliable. I've even almost got to the point where I can wake up the phone by putting my finger in the right spot about 50% of them time (other times I need to tap the screen so it will show me where to put my finger).