Community development strength - Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Real Life Review

You're a power user. Can the Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 8 keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 8. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
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With a locked bootloader from Verizon and samsung plus samsung locking the entire phone down with knox and the fact that rooting it would break functionality of the phone. I would say the development support for this phone is at or near zero.

loki993 said:
With a locked bootloader from Verizon and samsung plus samsung locking the entire phone down with knox and the fact that rooting it would break functionality of the phone. I would say the development support for this phone is at or near zero.
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I would say the support would be way more then near zero, it would be root like any other Samsung phone. Knox can be removed without issue.

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Are you happy with your S5?

How's it going guys I currently have the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 and in 15 days I'll be able to jump to a new phone. I have a question for you guys... What are some pros and cons on the s5? I'm huge into flashing roms don't want to be stuck with another phone where the development is kind of dead.(Not knocking on the devs for the T-Mobile note 2 but development was pretty much non extent)
I recently made the jump both to T-Mobile from Verizon and the Galaxy S5 from the S3. I really liked the LG G3, but development there seemed to move at a snail's pace and there's still not much happening. For me it helped that I always ran Beanstown (Alliance) ROMS on my Verizon Galaxy S3 and seeing that team move to T-Mobile was a huge incentive. I like to tinker and maybe somewhere out there people are cooking up some good stuff for the LG, but the T-Mobile Galaxy was both familiar and easy to root, put a recovery on and flash new "available" ROMS. The phone it's self gets the job done and there are even some nice surprises once you plow through all the features. So long story short, if development is important to you, I don't think you can wrong with the Galaxy.
Yes. Absolutely. I've had the g2 and the 5s. The s5 was a huge upgrade from those phones
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Yes. Absolutely. I've had the g2 and the 5s. The s5 was a huge upgrade from those phones
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Im extremely happy with this phone even more so after putting alliance on it . I had a Att GS4 for 2 months and it had to go..It had a locked bootloader so there was no kernel flashing what so ever . Only custom roms based off stock . I also was thinking about the G3 until i took a look in the development thread and under original development it said NEVER. Everything meets my standards . Very VERY happy with my purchase
i have always loved stock android for its speed and customization , but with the s5 and xposed it just works very well and the battery life is awesome getting like 3 days on a charge on stock rom .
Also another happy user. When the S5 was announced I was disappointed but later down the line decided to try it again. I love the speed, camera, screen and feel of it. It really makes the s4 seem like a cheap toy in comparison. Used to be a nexus only guy, but will continue to support the galaxy s line.
Thanks guys looks like this will be the phone I'll be upgrading to.
I miss my note 3 and still like the LG g2 over my crapsung s5
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the device is very powerful and im mostly happy. the one thing that really bugs me is the phone doesnt work very well as a phone. dropped calls when i use wifi calling the person on the other end doesnt hear me sometimes. volte is screwy sound goes in and out during calls. maybe t mobile network is not developed enough,? idk i came from att with galaxy s3 the international one without lte and i had much less problems.
this morning i tried 5 times to make a call finally after reboot i was able to.
again not sure if its the phone, tmobile or my settings or a combination of all. but im not happy
Wait for the Note4, the s5 is a real disappointment.
Especially the childish looking OS, what a real drag!
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Wait for the Note4, the s5 is a real disappointment.
Especially the childish looking OS, what a real drag!
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Note 4 is too big. S5 LTE-A as the base flagship device would have been nice though. Otherwise, i came from the S4 and i love my S5. Overall its smoother, battery lasts forever even when downloading all day. Only down side of the phone is i had to pay for it ha.
had good battery life at first then the update killed that, still better than most.
the stock rom has tons of problems glitches errors all that, touchwiz is amazingly bad at everything, the camera is SO bad at focusing and actually taking pictures is a pain, every menu is just a huge wall of choices, no planning or thought went into streamlining TW
music playback skips (still)
tethering will not connect unless using a custom rom
phone slides out of my pocket like it was designed to do it
pixels visible on certain colors because its still a stupid pentile
msg to samsung; please copy the sense 6 msg app exactly, its lightyears ahead of yours
so other than halfway decent battery this phone is disappointing
on my 3rd replacement because data stops working all the time and calls are just pure static but the update fixed that
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I recently made the jump both to T-Mobile from Verizon and the Galaxy S5 from the S3.
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I did the same thing for all 5 of our lines (ETF pay off was the draw). The S5 is a great device. My mother has an S3 and the screen now looks small compared to the S5. The S5 has fantastic battery life and is very responsive in everything it does.
Very happy with the S5.
Also very happy with T-Mobile.
Overall I'm happy and would do it again.
I have to agree about the camera focus issue.....esp. closeups. I kind of think the the s4 camera was a bit better.
And I've had the s3, s4 and s5 and have always disliked the side button. The s5 is worst of all. I constantly look down at my pocket and my phone is doing things, like I pulled it out one time and it had brought itself into the playstore(!!!).....It has made multiple pocket calls on it's own. No kidding. I think I'm pressing the side button while slipping it into my pocket.
I ended up going with the Note 4 so far so good maybe I'll pick up an s5 to play with the roms in a few months
I was not happy with my AT&T S5 due to the locked bootloader. I am very happy with the TMO S5. Very customizable not toooo big, not too small. Doesn't lag, but gets a couple days of battery with medium use. Got a nice case and glass screen protector so it's pretty safe. Very dependable with Omega rom. What's not to love?
Very Pleased!
I am VERY pleased with my T-Mobile S5. It's my favorite phone I've owned thus far. I had the S3 before this and really liked that phone and also the Vibrant prior to that (which I was also pleased with). This is actually the 1st Galaxy phone that I've kept the TouchWiz base on though. I really enjoy the customization options on AOSP as well as the appearance, but I also enjoy the stability of KitKat TouchWiz base on this one (using XtreStoLite ROM by Edgar).
I like the Note 4 Specs, but it's just too big for me it wouldn't be comfortable in my pocket, and it's not like I wear skinny jeans either. Another nice luxury is the water resistance that the S5 offers, and the Note 4 does not. I hope that you enjoy your Note 4 though, best of luck!
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How's it going guys I currently have the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 and in 15 days I'll be able to jump to a new phone. I have a question for you guys... What are some pros and cons on the s5? I'm huge into flashing roms don't want to be stuck with another phone where the development is kind of dead.(Not knocking on the devs for the T-Mobile note 2 but development was pretty much non extent)
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Even at the end of the year, I still very much like my Galaxy S5. The reasons I purchased it are still completely valid for me, even with the release of the Note 4 as well as several competitor's phones. Part of the criteria is that while I have a larger display, it shouldn't be too much larger in overall footprint than my prior phone. This put it over the Note 3 as the Note 4 was not available at that time.
Couple feature notes:
1. Screen size/quality. Prior to the Note 4, the S5 was also Display mates "best display ever" report winner. The Super AMOLED display at 5.1" also had phenomenal color matching when the display settings are set to Cinema.
2. Camera. 16 megapixel ISO cell outperformed in daylight conditions and in my opinion eliminated the low light issues I had with the Galaxy S3. Note 4 has optical stabilization, so it's a better camera if this is your number one feature.
3. micro SD card. Important feature, I use it extensively to get the most out of my phone. Pictures, Music, Movies do not consume storage on the phone and some applications support installation to SD card.
4. Environmental protection. The S5 is IP67 against dust and water. While it's not water proof, I've started YouTube and thrown it into pitchers of water for 15 minutes or so for the brag factor. So the feared toilet dunk is not as much a concern as you can wash it with soap and water after retrieval.
5. Fingerprint reader. Yeah, it's not perfect but when properly trained, you'll find it works pretty well. I use it not only to unlock my phone, but in combination with Last Pass (has support for S5 fingerprint reader) and Pay Pal applications (fingerprint to pay). There are more on the way. Would be nice if Google adopted the API as a standard so that Google Wallet used it as well.
Pros:
Moving from one Samsung phone to another is extremely easy, especially with the use of the Kies software to backup your content/settings.
Excellent display quality over Galaxy Note 2.
Greatly improved camera.
USB transfers are faster at USB 3.0
Pretty close to waterproof.
Great audio with headphones.
Solid Bluetooth functionality.
Touch Wiz UI has been greatly reduced in footprint and is actually useful.
Great battery life and the ability to go Ultra for days of power.
Fingerprint reader is supported by several third party developers besides just Samsung apps.
Official Samsung Qi wireless charging options are available (charging back or S View wireless cover).
Numerous case options
Cons:
USB cover must be closed for IP67 waterproofing.
Wireless Qi Charging Back from Samsung makes the phone FAT.
Touch Wiz UI as memory/performance impact.
KNOX security has a "electronic fuse" that once tripped voids warranty. Flashing ROMs may trip that fuse if proper methods are not followed.
Fingerprint reader is not as accurate as desired.
Plastic build (low on issue meter as case hides this, other premium build phones have their metal hidden by cases so it's no big deal)
Even well over 8 months after release you'll find that the Galaxy S5 is a great challenger to even the latest released phones. Processor and Video performance are still incredible.
That said, there is rumors of the S6 coming sooner, depending on if you are willing to wait until March you may find the newer product has specs worth waiting for. But if you have to upgrade now, I believe the S5 will continue to be a solid workhorse for a few more years. Which is good, at $600 it's expensive to get every single generation point release. I skipped the S4 for example when waiting to upgrade from my S3.
New to the s5, maybe 2 mths. I had one a few mths ago but the lack of dev made me sell it and stay with my s4 for a few more mths. Then I came across another s5 and decided the best way to fall in love with it was to donate one to my fav developer. So if you want to fall in love with your s5 check out my man @The Sickness and his sick and twisted rom....trust me you will be in love with it as i am. Support on the rom is far one of the best in my opinion, all due respect to all other threads.
OK but moving to note 4 in a couple months when I can jump
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ZTE Grand Memo 2 (Z980L) vs ZTE Grand X Max + (Z987)

Heya all. Just a quick (Or maybe not so quick) question here:
Ive been looking for ANYTHING involving rooting, roms or a recovery for the Z980L. My wife has this phone and it's an all around decent device (Aside from the glass battery cover that broke day one) She's had it almost a year now and I have come up with squat. I was finally able to root it with Kingo, but it's only a temp root and is lost on reboot.
Now, on to my question:
The Z987, is IDENTICAL (or so it appears to me) to the Z980L. Same specs, same chipset, same size, same everything, except that the Z987 is for the cricket network and the Z980L we purchased unlocked from Frys electronics. So, since I have been thus far unable to locate a recovery for the Z980L, could I use one that was for the Z987? I mean the recovery doesn't care what carrier the phone is on, right? They both are for use on GSM networks, so in theory, it shouldn't explode the second it's flashed, doing it;'s best Chernobyl impersonation, right?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Hi.
I bought the ZTE Grand X Max 2 Z988 & used it briefly as my main phone, I bought it as a temporary phone to hold me off until I could get the S8+, I still own the phone & still use it when home to keep from over working my S8+, I keep my old phones & old tablets use them for somethings to minimize the wear & tear on my new good expensive phone & tablets processors, anyways so I still use the Grand X Max 2, it's actually pretty good phone, the ZTE Z Max & the ZTE Grand X Max & Grand X Max 2 were all great fast smooth running phones, especially for their price tag, I found all kinds of hacks & mods for the TeamMobile ZTE Z Max, I didn't find any for the 1st generation Grand X Max Plus or it's successor the Grand X Max 2, I found this extremely frustrating.
I also have a Straight Talk Samsung Galaxy S6 SM-907VL that I bought as a temporary phone & I couldn't find anything tips or tricks or hacks or mods on that specific S6 model, I couldn't believe that there was nothing on a Samsung S line phone, now I will only buy phones from Verizon or AT&T or unlocked phones straight from the companies website, my preference is unlocked phone but if I come across a real good deal then I will take it.
It seems that Straight Talk & Cricket Wireless phones are not devices that developers are generally drawn to trying out & that is why there is a major lack of tips & tricks & hacks & mods for the devices.

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 8, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 8 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
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XDA_RealLifeReview said:
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 8, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 8 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
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I've been with Android since day 1. I was an early adopter of the T-mobile G1. Since that time I've been through close to 20 devices ("including 2 iPhones). Nothing comes close to the performance and features of the Note 8. I used my Nexus 6 for 2.5 years because I loved it so much. Then I updated to the Pixel 2 XL and was sorely disappointed! So after doing extensive research I decided that the Note 8 was going to be my next long term use device. I've owned it for 9 days and I think I made the right choice! Doubtful that I'll ever stray from Samsung again!
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I've been with Android since day 1. I was an early adopter of the T-mobile G1. Since that time I've been through close to 20 devices ("including 2 iPhones). Nothing comes close to the performance and features of the Note 8. I used my Nexus 6 for 2.5 years because I loved it so much. Then I updated to the Pixel 2 XL and was sorely disappointed! So after doing extensive research I decided that the Note 8 was going to be my next long term use device. I've owned it for 9 days and I think I made the right choice! Doubtful that I'll ever stray from Samsung again!
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A little late getting the Note 8, but definitely agree with you. By the far the best phone I owned.

Community development strength

You're a power user. Can the Asus ZenFone Max Pro M1 keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the Asus ZenFone Max Pro M1. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
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I would like to give 10 on 10 to the community because now we have everything that we need for the healthy development of the phone as the company has released all the kernel source code and the bootloader unlock tool and the company is delivering the bimonthly security updates of the Android and important updates to the phone as soon as possible and as soon as they are found
So now it is our responsibility to take care of this community and keep this development healthy in order to keep this phone alive in the years to come because these days the metallic phones don't wear away so easily and then it to be cared so that they will be going on for years
It's flourishing everyday... Awesome
Can't say it is great as of now. I was using a OnePlus before and the development for that device used to be far far better. It has been about 3 months since our phone has been released and we still don't have a 100% stable custom ROM yet. People still complain about minor issues with every custom ROM and that's the reason why I'm sticking to the stock ROM. Hoping things will get better.
ok all is done yes sd636 is only 5mts old so we have to for further development
hope community get stong as time passes
Thanks for your sincere effort for The Rom developments and any kind of issues fixing, I wish them all the best.
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Can't say it is great as of now. I was using a OnePlus before and the development for that device used to be far far better. It has been about 3 months since our phone has been released and we still don't have a 100% stable custom ROM yet. People still complain about minor issues with every custom ROM and that's the reason why I'm sticking to the stock ROM. Hoping things will get better.
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This phone is good on paper and to some extent in real life, coming from my three old OnePlus one I have several complaints, which I've listed below.
1. Despite having an "NXP Smart Amp" this phone does not provide decent audio experience compared to my old oneplus one, the audio output is lacking depth and harsh, simply not pleasant to listen to.
2. The fingerprint sensor does not work while the phone is connected to the charger.
3. This phone has 2.4Ghz WiFi only which cannot be used reliably if you are using bluetooth at the same time, because of interference the network jitter goes up significantly. (from 2ms to 140ms)
4. Vibration response while being decent is too delayed, adjusting the haptic feedback settings from 0 to 30 ms leads to no haptic response at all, you have to crank beyond 50ms to get something significant out of it. But still, at times the haptic feedback will miss while typing.
Looking at the community and development support going on for this phone I really hope that at least the first and second problem gets a resolution, as the other two are related to hardware itself.

Community development strength

You're a power user. Can the Samsung Galaxy Note 9 keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the Samsung Galaxy Note 9. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
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The activity is overall underwhelming despite the amount of potential the Exynos 9810 has. There are plenty Custom ROMs for people’s needs, but they don’t feature any heavily customized Kernel that makes use of the true power of the SoC, and instead, they rely on a Samsung’s horrible work with the processor on the software side of things. And there still aren’t many good choices, most being port ROMs, they will inevitably have bugs hidden somewhere. Nobody can keep up with the amount of files in an OS and port all of it perfectly.
Custom Kernel development is dead. Only one developer is active on it (ykkfive, that I’m currently supporting).
While there are Kernels for each Android version of the phone in its European variant, there aren’t a lot of choices to meet people’s different requirements.
USA variant not worth talking about. Development is just dead. But the bootloader is locked so it’s not worth it to root to my eyes anyways.
The development scene is overall a 3/10 to me. Not healthy. This device deserves much more.
Well, still second to SM G531F development. As that is by far the worst I’ve ever seen

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