At the moment I have Pixel and some HTC earbuds that I use to listen to music. It might be the first LG devise I am going to get and one of the reasons is audio. So basically I want to ask you guys who appreciates better audio on they devices , if there is anything decent I could get between £50-£100 so I can gain benefits of LG V30 Dac? Thanks
nebulaoperator said:
At the moment I have Pixel and some HTC earbuds that I use to listen to music. It might be the first LG devise I am going to get and one of the reasons is audio. So basically I want to ask you guys who appreciates better audio on they devices , if there is anything decent I could get between £50-£100 so I can gain benefits of LG V30 Dac? Thanks
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Why not use the excellent premium B&O ear buds that come with the phone? You're already paying for them as part of the purchase price.
See @ 2:20 on this video:
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http://lgepr.lge.com/common/FileDow...io Innovations Release[20170825133336916].pdf
With the V30, LG continues its close partnership with B&O PLAY. B&O PLAY refined the audio capabilities in the V30 by fine-tuning the overall sound experience and adding its own exclusive touch. A set of high quality B&O PLAY earphones comes bundled with the V30 for hours of listening pleasure with style.
“For most people, listening to the music they love is a fundamental part of their lives and they expect the same uncompromised experience and quality from their headphones as they do from the mobile device they source music from,” said John Mollanger, CEO of B&O PLAY. “That’s why B&O PLAY is very excited for our long-term partnership with LG and satisfying global music lovers world over.”
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https://www.phonedog.com/2017/08/28/lg-v30-special-audio-features-bo-play-earphones
Finally, LG says that it’s continuing its partnership with B&O PLAY on the V30. This means that B&O PLAY has helped to tune the LG V30’s sound experience and that a set of “high-quality B&O PLAY earphones” will come bundled with the V30.
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http://phandroid.com/2017/08/28/lg-v30-audio-quality/
This kind of functionality at the hardware level is typically reserved for high-end audio players and best appreciated when using high quality headphones, which LG will provide in the box thanks to a partnership with B&O Play.
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ChazzMatt said:
Why not use the excellent premium B&O ear buds that come with the phone? You're already paying for them as part of the purchase price.
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Indeed, it completely slipped out of my mind . I hope they include B&O earbuds worldwide. Any idea when LG V30 will be released in Europe?
Thanks!
nebulaoperator said:
Indeed, it completely slipped out of my mind . I hope they include B&O earbuds worldwide. Any idea when LG V30 will be released in Europe?
Thanks!
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Yes, will be included worldwide.
No, I don't know the release date. All I can do is extrapolate the LG G6 timeline for U.S. And even that might not be the same for the LG V30...
40 days after the initial press conference, the LG G6 went on sale in the U.S. in carrier stores. For the LG V30 that would be October 10.
35 days after that (5 weeks), then the carrier unlocked versions were released in Europe and U.S. For the LG V30 that would be November 14.
Europe will be in there somewhere!
Even if the earbuds are included with the phone in all markets (something I won't believe until I actually see it happen), they won't make full use of the complete potential of the sound system built into the phone. I ended up picking up a pair of Sennheiser HD558's for less than $100. They trip the high impedance mode and sound great. I have the B&O headphones given out with the V20 last year and they're ok but not on the same level as the bigger cans. The plug for the B&O's was coated with something that allowed them to trigger the high impedance mode the first few times but that wore off and soon you were just left with regular mode. I'd assume as much for these being shown packaged with the V30.
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Even if the earbuds are included with the phone in all markets (something I won't believe until I actually see it happen), they won't make full use of the complete potential of the sound system built into the phone. I ended up picking up a pair of Sennheiser HD558's for less than $100. They trip the high impedance mode and sound great.
I have the B&O headphones given out with the V20 last year and they're ok but not on the same level as the bigger cans. The plug for the B&O's was coated with something that allowed them to trigger the high impedance mode the first few times but that wore off and soon you were just left with regular mode. I'd assume as much for these being shown packaged with the V30.
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It will be worldwide. The first link in my post above is to LG's press release on their website. Besides being on the general .com suffix and not some specific country variant for South Korea or whatever, the company official said "GLOBAL" when talking about the B&O earphones:
“That’s why B&O PLAY is very excited for our long-term partnership with LG and satisfying global music lovers world over.”
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Whether you want to buy even better is up to you. I have no knowledge if this year's is same quality or supposedly better than last year's.
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No, I don't know the release date. All I can do is extrapolate the LG G6 timeline for U.S. And even that might not be the same for the LG V30...
40 days after the initial press conference, the LG G6 went on sale in the U.S. in carrier stores. For the LG V30 that would be October 10.
35 days after that (5 weeks), then the carrier unlocked versions were released in Europe and U.S. For the LG V30 that would be November 14.
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I have checked dates on G6 and it was around 2 months until phone was selling. If I am correct 26th of Feb announcement and end of April phone was sold by shops here in UK. Still i spent only 15 min. on research I might be wrong with dates.
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It will be worldwide. The first link in my post above is to LG's press release on their website. Besides being on the general .com suffix and not some specific country variant for South Korea or whatever, the company official said "GLOBAL" when talking about the B&O earphones:
Whether you want to buy even better is up to you. I have no knowledge if this year's is same quality or supposedly better than last year's.
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Until I see them in hands from users from each carrier, I'll remain skeptical.
T-Mobile just posted their unboxing video on FB and guess what wasn't pulled out of the box? That's right, no headphones were pulled out.
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T-Mobile just posted their unboxing video on FB and guess what wasn't pulled out of the box? That's right, no headphones were pulled out.
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Interesting then that LG made such a big deal about it, for "global" customers.
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T-Mobile just posted their unboxing video on FB and guess what wasn't pulled out of the box? That's right, no headphones were pulled out.
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Please post a link to the video?
Never mind, found it. Very strange.
Well, the same problem happened with Xperia's a couple years back in Turkey. They were supposed to be bundled with a great pair of noise cancelling earphones. Those "global" earphones were then removed most of the boxes sold here in Turkey to bring down the absurd price due to sh*tty currency ratios. "Original" phones started being sold about a month or two later, with double the earphones retail value added on top of the phone. So there is a big chance some regions won't get those earphones even though LG said global.
And with all respect, why turn this into a "whats in the box" topic? (I'm sure it wasn't intentional) I'm sure the earphones that are supposed to come out of the box are great, and they're tuned for this phone specifically but I'd love to hear some alternatives. I've loved audio through all my teen years, and most of my 20's, but I just can't keep up with all the new models anymore. Not enough time with all the responsibilities.
So I'd love to hear about some alternative earbuds if anyone has some. Maybe some cans for a comfy long distance journey where size doesn't matter (see what I did there?)
I vote beyerdynamic dt 770 for closeback
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T-Mobile just posted their unboxing video on FB and guess what wasn't pulled out of the box? That's right, no headphones were pulled out.
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Blame T-Mobile. Sprint version has them. And a free Google VR headset.
http://www.techradar.com/news/the-sprint-exclusive-lg-v30-plus-is-an-incredibly-good-deal
LG is tossing in a set of its LG Quad Play wired headphones that are supposedly suited to take advantage of the Quad DAC built into the phone.
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I suppose the Plus-specific earbuds are a solid toss-in, assuming these are as good as the Bang & Olufsen earbuds that LG included with last year’s*LG V20
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@ChazzMatt they also mentioned its not a final unit so who knows whether earbuds be included . " I suppose the Plus-specific earbuds are a solid toss-in, assuming these are as good as the Bang & Olufsen earbuds that LG included with last year’s LG V20. But what does this mean for what’s inside of the standard V30’s box? We haven't received a final unit yet, so we're unsure of what buyers are in for when they buy in."
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@ChazzMatt they also mentioned its not a final unit so who knows whether earbuds be included .
"I suppose the Plus-specific earbuds are a solid toss-in, assuming these are as good as the Bang & Olufsen earbuds that LG included with last year’s LG V20.
But what does this mean for what’s inside of the standard V30’s box? We haven't received a final unit yet, so we're unsure of what buyers are in for when they buy in."
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No, he doesn't say that. You are mis-reading what he is saying.
He clearly says what's included in the deal:
LG V30+ with 128GB internal storage (compared to only 64GB on AT&T, Verizon, T-mobile)
2-for-1 offer (BOGO)
Google VR goggles
Bang & Olufsen earbuds (EDIT: I was wrong about this. He says "LG quad play" earbuds, not B&O-branded earbuds. BUT, he DOES say earbuds are in the box! And Sprint agrees, see press release link below.)
He says these earbuds are allegedly specifically tuned/optimized for the LG V30, but as he hasn't received a final unit yet, he's unsure how good they will be or the VALUE. The whole point of the article is the VALUE of what people are getting for their money -- how Sprint is DESPERATE to attract customers. He's not debating whether there will be earbuds or not.
His comment about the "standard" V30 box vs. the V30+ means the B&O earbuds might only be part of the PLUS of the V30+ package. Maybe only earbuds come with V30+? That's really his question. He's NOT questioning whether earbuds will or will not come with Sprint's V30+.
Note how he uses the word "standard" earlier in the article to mean the base LG V30 (64GB):
Digging into what makes the V30 Plus unique, it isn’t a “plus” in the same sense as, say, the iPhone 8 Plus. It’s actually no bigger than the standard LG V30, which also features a six-inch AMOLED display.
What is different is the internal storage, which is doubled to 128GB, as well as the fact that LG is tossing in a set of its LG Quad Play wired headphones that are supposedly suited to take advantage of the Quad DAC built into the phone.
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So in his conclusion, here are his questions:
Are the earbuds really any good, have they been optimized for the phone as promised?
Will they also come with the "standard" LG V30 or only with the LG V30+? Because LG seemed to promise all LG v30 would get these earbuds.
That's what he's saying. Yeah, he could have written it more clearly but these writers write, post and move on.
He wouldn't clearly say what WILL be included with the Sprint LG v30+, then turn around and say he does NOT KNOW what will be included. Go read it again.
What I also find interesting is he almost plainly states Sprint will NOT be the exclusive provider of the LG V30+. Only exclusive "at launch". I really hope the US998 (to be released sometime in November) comes in LG V30+ (128GB) configuration. Or will be available to buy at that configuration.
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@ChazzMatt they also mentioned its not a final unit so who knows whether earbuds be included .
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We know they will be included with Sprint LG V30+ because he clearly wrote they would be.
But also, GO READ SPRINT'S PRESS RELEASE:
http://newsroom.sprint.com/lg-v30-a...e-get-one-on-us-just-38-per-month-for-two.htm
Sprint’s LG V30+ is the only V30 model that comes with LG QuadPlay earbuds included in the box.
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So, that's disappointing in that LG seemed to promise all LG V30 would have it, but they did the same thing with Qi wireless charging, quad DAC and 64GB storage for the LG G6. They need to stop that nonsense. Even though they said the LG G6 had all those features, you could not buy an LG G6 that had ALL those features. They regionalized the specs.
Seems in the U.S. only the LG V30+ will have the earbuds? Or possibly even only Sprint's LG V30+?
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Until I see them in hands from users from each carrier, I'll remain skeptical.
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You were right to be skeptical. See 2nd section of my post above.
@ChazzMatt
I wasn't clear in my last post that has caused some confusion. And please do me a favour stop writing words in bold, colouring them in red and exaggerating to capital letters. I have fairly fluent understanding of English and able at ease to comprehend things. We are just having normal discussion here.
Not really this :
"He clearly says what's included in the deal:
LG V30+ with 128GB internal storage (compared to only 64GB on AT&T, Verizon, T-mobile)
2-for-1 offer (BOGO)
Google VR goggles
Bang & Olufsen earbuds"
It's rather :
LG V30+ with 128GB internal storage (compared to only 64GB on AT&T, Verizon, T-mobile)
2-for-1 offer (BOGO)
Google VR goggles
LG Quad Play
I have contacted Carphonewarehouse the other day and they could not confirm it will be B&O earbuds but some at least will. That's what in the box:
The box contains
Device
Charger
Headphones
SIM card removal tool
USB cable
Quick Start Guide
https://www.carphonewarehouse.com/lg/v30.html#!colour=silver&capacity=64GB&dealType=pm
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@ChazzMatt
I wasn't clear in my last post that has caused some confusion. And please do me a favour stop writing words in bold, colouring them in red and exaggerating to capital letters. I have fairly fluent understanding of English and able at ease to comprehend things. We are just having normal discussion here.
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Sprint themselves say it will have premium quadplay earbuds. My post stands exactly as written.
You failed to understand what he meant by "standard" LG V30 vs. the LG V30+. That is all I was clarifying.
You said this.
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@ChazzMatt they also mentioned its not a final unit so who knows whether earbuds be included .
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Which if you read the article there was no question earbuds would be included in the Sprint LG V30+. When he said not everything was know about the "final unit" you took that out of context. He was referring to the "standard" LG V30 (64GB) the other carriers are selling, not Sprint's LG V30+ (128GB).
Digging into what makes the V30 Plus unique, it isn’t a “plus” in the same sense as, say, the iPhone 8 Plus. It’s actually no bigger than the standard LG V30, which also features a six-inch AMOLED display.
What is different (about the LG V30+ vs. the "standard" LG V30) is the internal storage, which is doubled to 128GB, as well as the fact that LG is tossing in a set of its LG Quad Play wired headphones that are supposedly suited to take advantage of the Quad DAC built into the phone.
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I suppose the Plus-specific earbuds are a solid toss-in, assuming these are as good as the Bang & Olufsen earbuds that LG included with last year’s LG V20. But what does this mean for what’s inside of the standard V30’s box? (the LG V30 64GB model) We haven't received a final unit yet, so we're unsure of what buyers are in for when they buy in.
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He used that word "standard" model in the article previously to differentiate between the 64GB LG V30 and the LG V30+. We would normally say "base" model here in the U.S. But I understood what he meant. He used the word at least twice in the article.
I am not commenting in any way on your understanding of English, so please don't say I am. I said you mis-read the article because really there was no confusion. He clearly said there would be earbuds with Sprint's LG V30+. You apparently mis-read the article and tried to say he didn't say that or left some doubt.
Sprint's press release, which I found after I initially posted, confirmed everything I said.
You are now trying to make it seem you were questioning B&O earbuds vs "quad play" earbuds, but you didn't specify that you just said "earbuds".
I admitted to another poster LG apparently is misleading people by making them think ALL LG V30 (not just the LG V30+) will have earbuds, and now we know that to not be true. I believed LG's press release, but I have no reason not to believe Sprint's press release about earbuds.
@ChazzMatt Its over , forget my post that triggered you in the first place I told you I got it all right. Do you really understand what is it all about? Go to your comment #15, you wrote B&Q is included i BoGo deal LG V30 +. There is no B&Q with BoGo deal because LG’s QuadPlay Earbuds are in the box. Does that makes a sense at all? If not i take it you clearly derailing this conversation out of ignorance.
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@ChazzMatt Its over , forget my post that triggered you in the first place I told you I got it all right. Do you really understand what is it all about? Go to your comment #15, you wrote B&Q is included i BoGo deal LG V30 +. There is no B&Q with BoGo deal because LG’s QuadPlay Earbuds are in the box. Does that makes a sense at all? If not i take it you clearly derailing this conversation out of ignorance.
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Go to your post where you questioned "earbuds". You questioned whether earbuds would be included with Sprint's LG v30+. I am not derailing the conversation. I am merely replying to your mis-reading of the article.
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You are now trying to make it seem you were questioning B&O earbuds vs "quad play" earbuds, but you didn't specify that you just said "earbuds".
I admitted to another poster LG apparently is misleading people by making them think ALL LG V30 (not just the LG V30+) will have earbuds, and now we know that to not be true. I believed LG's press release, but I have no reason not to believe Sprint's press release about earbuds.
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I also admit I was wrong to believe LG's press release that ALL LG V30 would have earbuds in the box, B&O or "quad play" or whatever. Are we done now?
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RE: Recommended Vendors - V30 (Verizon)
Does anyone know when the V30 may be available from Amazon (Verizon Version)? Thanks.
Also - any other recommendations for where to purchase the Verizon V30 from - looking for a vendor who has a longer return policy in case I don't care for the phone.
Thanks.
koozer said:
Does anyone know when the V30 may be available from Amazon (Verizon Version)? Thanks.
Also - any other recommendations for where to purchase the Verizon V30 from - looking for a vendor who has a longer return policy in case I don't care for the phone.
Thanks.
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Good question. Not even most NY AT&T retailers have it in stores. I've been all around southern NY looking. No dice. I'm starting to think it doesn't exist and the internet has fooled me haha
I'll sale got my 5 day old v30. I'll be swapping back to my g6 most likely. Good I the 3 cases I got for it already too
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I'll sale got my 5 day old v30. I'll be swapping back to my g6 most likely. Good I the 3 cases I got for it already too
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Why are you switching back to G6? Are there any issues with V30?
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I'll sale got my 5 day old v30. I'll be swapping back to my g6 most likely. Good I the 3 cases I got for it already too
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Why are you switching back to G6? Are there any issues with V30?
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The V30 is what the G6 SHOULD have been. Better CPU, and ALL the specs: more storage, Quad DAC, Qi wireless charging -- which LG only put in a few G6 and there was no model that had it all. They did make a G6+, but only the South Korea G6+ had all the specs, but it still had the Snapdragon 821.
With the Snapdragon 835 you have must faster CPU and gigabit modem speeds.
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Why are you switching back to G6? Are there any issues with V30?
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#1. the g6 for me feels better in hand, I've got average sized hands and for a 5'8 guy. it's not that the phones huge or my hands are donald trump small.
but I really like the security and the solidity of the build of the g6. the 100% flat screen and the thicker sides. I'm very outdoorsy person and I really don't want to risk dropping or breaking my phone when reaching for it to take photos. I love the camera, the speed, the PLED screen. the v30 is amazing basically everything about it beats the g6. The camera software, the bluetooth music quality. IDC about the Q-dac truly. I use 64gb Sd card anyhow so the v30 being 64gb internal over the 32gb of the g6 is not a big deal.
But think about it would I rather have a "better" phone as a daily driver that I'm constantly worrying about dropping or breaking or a SOLID 100% great phone that I have no worries over and also the
v30 is seemingly a SOB to get a nice GLASS screen protector for. I've ordered 5 from amazon and shall see which ones work with cases without being too small to fit the full screen. I hate the ones with gaps on the side. There's no issues at all with the v30 100% great phone 2017 flagship. the g6 is a great phone but a year late truly .but I'm okay with that. I'd rather not have a great phone that I possibly break vs a really good phone that i've got no issues with.
I was wondering if the lg v30+ comes with the same headphones as the international version
Mine came with the premium headphones from Bang and Olufson or however u spell it lol. They are branded "LG" tho. I've been using them the last 2 days while working and they are AMAZING. I have a complete unboxing of the Sprint V30+ on YouTube, if u wanna check it out here: it shows the headphones and everything: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UwHrluRZAOs
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Sorry, but I see LG QuadBeat 3 and no B&O headphones in your video.
B&O headphones look like these in the LG v30 presentation ( s.attachment): different earpiece shape, different jack (straight and not angled) and different kind of cable.
LG QuadBeat 3 sound everything but amazing.
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Sorry, but I see LG QuadBeat 3 and no B&O headphones in your video.
B&O headphones look like these in the LG v30 presentation ( s.attachment): different earpiece shape, different jack (straight and not angled) and different kind of cable.
LG QuadBeat 3 sound everything but amazing.
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My bad I completely misunderstood lol. I was thinking he was talking about if they came with headphones period. But after listening to them, I personally like them. I've heard much worse headphones packaged with phones. Samsung can't make a good headphone to save their life.
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I feel very dumb. I did not even check to see if this device came with headphones at all. I don't have the V30+. Mine didn't come with any but gee wiz, I've got quite a few pairs of Apple headphones I can't use.
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Septembersrain said:
I feel very dumb. I did not even check to see if this device came with headphones at all. I don't have the V30+. Mine didn't come with any but gee wiz, I've got quite a few pairs of Apple headphones I can't use.
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LG made a very big deal about how every LG V30 would come with B&O premium headphones.
With the V30, LG continues its close partnership with B&O PLAY. B&O PLAY refined the audio capabilities in the V30 by fine-tuning the overall sound experience and adding its own exclusive touch. A set of high quality B&O PLAY earphones comes bundled with the V30 for hours of listening pleasure with style.
“For most people, listening to the music they love is a fundamental part of their lives and they expect the same uncompromised experience and quality from their headphones as they do from the mobile device they source music from,” said John Mollanger, CEO of B&O PLAY. “That’s why B&O PLAY is very excited for our long-term partnership with LG and satisfying global music lovers world over.”
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Note in the press release they said "V30" -- not just V30+ -- and note the word "global" in the statement. So, they were saying or very strongly implying every V30 all over the world would receive a pair of B&O headphones.
They issued this statement via world wide press release as well as on their general worldwide LG.com website -- not their country specific South Korea website. (lge.co.kr/) Yet, turns out the B&O headphones in "every V30 box" so far were in South Korea, LG's home country.
LG Canada said they couldn't do it because of "licensing" issues. This is why over here in North America at least the phones don't even have B&O logos on the back (like the picture above). B&O already has exclusive licensing for other products in North America. So, over here, no LG V30 is getting B&O earbuds in the box, and only the LG V30+ has headphones. (I guess part of the "plus" experience? More storage and quad DAC earbuds.) The LG V30+ headphones are not B&O branded, they are quad DAC earbuds by LG -- which audiophiles say are not as good as B&O-branded earbuds. Still probably better than Dollar Store earbuds, you know?
But quite different from "every LG V30 across the world gets a pair of B&O earbuds" -- which was the story LG was telling back in August. I was one who believed LG. They should know about licensing issues BEFORE making such an announcement or they should say "in select countries". It's the same thing they did with the LG G6, just not as bad. They leaked "quad DAC", "64GB storage", "Qi wireless charging" -- then regionalized the specs so you could not buy an LG G6 with all those specifications.
I've now bought a pair of premium high impedance earbuds* to use with my LG V30, which will be coming in December sometime (official carrier unlocked US998), but it makes me feel wary towards LG. This is twice this year (LG G6, now LG V30), where they've promised something they didn't deliver.
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* I bought the triple driver model which a reviewer said sounded practically as good as the quad driver to him. $80 retail vs $200. And I snagged them for $55 a couple of weeks ago. Now temporarily out of stock.
Read the review:
1MORE Triple Driver In-Ear Headphone review
Stunning value
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/1more-triple-driver-in-ear-headphone
two other reviews:
https://www.audiophileon.com/news/1more-triple-driver-in-ear-headphone-review
I am blown away. The 1More Triple driver didn't just perform well over the course of our review, the absolutely decimated most of the competition in the sub $100 price point and remains competitive up to $200. It's a unique sounding earphone for this price point with lots of detail, clarity and a faily balanced yet smooth signature.
The Shure SE215 are one of my go-to recommendations at this price point and that still stands if you want a more bass heavy emphasis but side by side they couldn't be more different. The 1More Triple driver is full of energy and can really push the speed when needed to. They almost make the SE215 seem laggy by comparison.
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LG made a very big deal about how every LG V30 would come with B&O premium headphones.
Note in the press release they said "V30" -- not just V30+ -- and note the world "global" in the statement. So, they were saying or very strongly implying every V30 all over the world would receive a pair of B&O headphones.
They issued this statement via world wide press release as well as on their general worldwide LG.com website -- not their country specific South Korea website. (lge.co.kr/) Yet, turns out the B&O headphones in "every V30 box" so far were in South Korea, LG's home country.
LG Canada said they couldn't do it because of "licensing" issues. This is why over here in North America at least the phones don't even have B&O logos on the back (like the picture above). B&O already has exclusive licensing for other products in North America. So, over here, no LG V30 is getting B&O earbuds in the box, and only the LG V30+ has headphones. (I guess part of the "plus" experience? More storage and quad DAC earbuds.) The LG V30+ headphones are not B&O branded, they are quad DAC earbuds by LG -- which audiophiles say are not as good as B&O-branded earbuds. Still probably better than Dollar Store earbuds, you know?
But quite different from "every LG V30 across the world gets a pair of B&O earbuds" -- which was the story LG was telling back in August. I was one who believed LG. They should know about licensing issues BEFORE making such an announcement or they should say "in select countries". It's the same thing they did with the LG G6, just not as bad. They leaked "quad DAC", "64GB storage", "Qi wireless charging" -- then regionalized the specs so you could not buy an LG G6 with all those specifications.
I've now bought a pair of premium high impedance earbuds* to use with my LG V30, which will be coming in December sometime (official carrier unlocked US998), but it makes me feel wary towards LG. This is twice this year (LG G6, now LG V30), where they've promised something they didn't deliver.
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* I bought the triple driver model which a reviewer said sounded practically as good as the quad driver to him. $80 retail vs $200. And I snagged them for $55 a couple of weeks ago. Now temporarily out of stock.
Read the review:
1MORE Triple Driver In-Ear Headphone review
Stunning value
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/1more-triple-driver-in-ear-headphone
two other reviews:
https://www.audiophileon.com/news/1more-triple-driver-in-ear-headphone-review
https://www.pcmag.com/review/347194/1more-triple-driver-in-ear-headphones
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Oh! I had just assumed the B&O thing was just for S. Korea. It's a shame we didn't get them. I wouldn't have been able to use them either. I can't wear headphones in my ears comfortably. I can barely stand the over the ear ones either.
It's so weird but the only type I like are the ones that go behind the ear.
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There are a lot of italien reviews of the V30+ on YouTube and all got the B&O headphones. The B&O headphones are also advertised on the italian product page of the V30+. Everyone except of the US is getting them. Sprint got the LG Quadbeat ear buds instead for the V30+ but the other US carriers didn't care at all.
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There are a lot of italien reviews of the V30+ on YouTube and all got the B&O headphones. The B&O headphones are also advertised on the italian product page of the V30+. Everyone except of the US is getting them. Sprint got the LG Quadbeat ear buds instead for the V30+ but the other US carriers didn't care at all.
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I thought the v30+ is not going to be released in Europe...
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I thought the v30+ is not going to be released in Europe...
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See here: http://www.lg.com/it/telefoni-cellulari/lg-LGH930G-lg-v30-plus-aurora-black
No release in the german speaking countrys sadly. I'm considering importing it from Italy ...
LG v30+ for official carrier unlocked versions H930 and US998?
LG v30+ for official carrier unlocked versions H930 and US998?
Here's what I don't understand about the availability of the LG V30+ and colors of either the LG V30/LG V30+.
For the carriers -- OK, especially U.S. carriers -- LG is saying that the colors and models (V30, V30+) are chosen by the carriers, thus lack of the Moroccan Blue in the U.S. for instance. And the two SMALLEST carriers in the U.S. (Sprint and U.S. Cellular) got the V30+ while the three largest carriers (Verizon, AT&T, T-mobile) did not. VERY STRANGE.
But LG says that's the CARRIERS' choice, and the carriers say NO, that's what LG is offering them. Especially the colors.
Well, here's where it hits the fan...
LG is the ONLY entity choosing what phones they sell as "open market" phones, a.k.a. official carrier unlocked phones -- the phones eligible for official bootloader unlock.
Where's the V30+?
Where's all the colors?
The official carrier unlocked US998 (not sold by any carriers, NOT the U.S. Cellular version) is ONLY silver so far -- and ONLY V30 (64GB configuration). At least that's all that B&H Photo is showing on their website as of October 29, 2017.
Where's the 128GB LG V30+ US998, and in Moroccan Blue?
Or even the LG V30+ for US998 in Black? We see that U.S. Cellular is selling their US998 (not eligible for bootloader unlock) in LG V30+ in both Silver and Black, so we know the BLACK LG V30+ US998 EXISTS. Why won't LG sell it to us?
(Since I want bootloader unlock and root, I will only be buying the official carrier unlocked versions, not the U.S. Cellular carrier version which regrettably shares the same model number.)
Actually, for BOTH the official carrier unlocked versions H930 and US998? Where's the V30+ and all the color choices?
Europe H930 is getting Moroccan Blue in regular LG V30 (64GB) configuration -- but North American US998 is not even getting that. But where's the LG V30+ for the H930 carrier unlocked version?
It's almost like LG doesn't want our money!
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See here: http://www.lg.com/it/telefoni-cellulari/lg-LGH930G-lg-v30-plus-aurora-black
No release in the german speaking countrys sadly. I'm considering importing it from Italy ...
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Thanks for the info. Hm guess I will import from Italy too. Hopefully it will be in Amazon sooner than later. Would prefer that cause of the good conditions.
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LG v30+ for official carrier unlocked versions H930 and US998?
Here's what I don't understand about the availability of the LG V30+ and colors of either the LG V30/LG V30+.
For the carriers -- OK, especially U.S. carriers -- LG is saying that the colors and models (V30, V30+) are chosen by the carriers, thus lack of the Moroccan Blue in the U.S. for instance. And the two SMALLEST carriers in the U.S. (Sprint and U.S. Cellular) got the V30+ while the three largest carriers (Verizon, AT&T, T-mobile) did not. VERY STRANGE.
But LG says that's the CARRIERS' choice, and the carriers say NO, that's what LG is offering them. Especially the colors.
Well, here's where it hits the fan...
The official carrier unlocked US998 (not sold by any carriers, NOT the U.S. Cellular version) is ONLY silver so far -- and ONLY V30 (64GB configuration). At least that's all that B&H Photo is showing on their website as of October 29, 2017.
Where's the 128GB LG V30+ US998, and in Moroccan Blue?
Or even the LG V30+ for US998 in Black? We see that U.S. Cellular is selling their US998 (not eligible for bootloader unlock) in LG V30+ in both Silver and Black, so we know it EXISTS. Why won't LG sell it to us? (Since I want bootloader unlock and root, I will only be buying the official carrier unlocked versions, not the U.S. Cellular carrier version which regrettably shares the same model number.)
Actually, for BOTH the official carrier unlocked versions H930 and US998?
Europe H930 is getting Moroccan Blue in 64GB configuration -- but North American US998 is not even getting that. But where's the LG V30+ for the H930 carrier unlocked version?
It's almost like LG doesn't want our money!
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I don't get it what lg is doing with there releases. It could have been so easy. The phone was announced 2 month ago and nobody knows exactly what is coming in which configuration.
They could have just released the same variants worldwide. With carriers choosing to lock the bootloader.
They are just about to fail another phone launch. Most people will buy another phone that's actually available because the v30 is not or they have no idea when it will launch.
I hate that. I wanted that phone so badly but I already have the Huawei mate 10 preorder in my amazon basket.
If it's not going to be released before the mate 10 it will be that phone.
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Somebody asked me a question in a PM which is worth discussing. My answer is easy -- LG V30. But my priorities may differ from others, so the answer may be different for you.
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I wanna ask your opinion about something... I really like v30, have been planning buying it but since it's almost 2018 and G7 should be around the corner. What would you say? Get V30 or wait little longer for G7?
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LG V30 or 2018 LG G7?
I would choose the LG V30.
FIRST, it has all the specs (except for front facing stereo speakers) I desire in a phone.
OK, maybe it could have more RAM, maybe an LED notification light, maybe a slightly larger battery (even though this one is getting good reviews). But the LG V30 hits most of the boxes I wanted:
Qi wireless charging (which I have now),
1440p OLED display (which I have now),
at least 64GB internal memory (which I have now),
headset jack (which I have now) +
Snapdragon 835 (which is a next gen gigabit LTE chipset) and
high IP rating (which is requisite now for 2017 top-tier smartphones). Those that don't have that -- cough -- Essential, OnePlus are pretenders.
Even though I have a 2014 Moto XT1225, thanks to the stellar specs it had, it really kept pace with phones through 2015 and 2016. (Snapdragon 805, 3GB RAM, 64GB internal memory, 3900 mAh battery, 1440p AMOLED display, Qi wireless charging, 21MP rear camera, 3.5mm headset jack).
Sure, each year brought iterative CPU updates, but only with the 2017 phones was there a feeling I needed to update. A lot of it was cumulative: stuff like fingerprint sensors, more RAM, and high IP ratings which became common (Motorola, Samsung, LG, Pixel, even iPhone). But suddenly with Snapdragon 835 was there a real "next gen" difference not only in computing speed but also LTE download speeds.
But I didn't want to give up what I already had. Qi wireless charging was my line in the sand. Laugh at that, but it's a real convenience for me and my wife.
Point is, the LG V30 is the first phone that makes me want it as bad as the when I bought three of the 2014 Moto XT1225 phones. (I bought two for me and my wife and later bought a 3rd for emergency backup purposes.)
SECOND, why not the LG G7? Won't it be better than the LG V30?
1) Tell me how it will be better?
Front facing stereo speakers would pique my interest. Yes, more RAM would be nice.
Yes, it will probably have Snapdragon 845, but that's just an iterative update -- much like the Snapdragon 820/821. The Snapdragon 835 was the "next gen" chipset (in manufacturing process, CPU speed and LTE speed). 845 will be a slight improvement, but not earth shattering.
2) But, did you see how LG screwed up the release of the LG G6?
I don't trust them to do any better with the LG G7. They will have a nice phone "on paper" but somehow manage to mess it up.
The real problem with the LG G6 was the STUPID regionalized specs scheme.
Want more than 32GB internal storage? Only some of the Asian variants had that.
Want Quad DAC? Out of luck if you live in Europe or U.S.
Want Qi wireless charging? Better move to the U.S.!
WHY? I want more storage, better audio AND Qi wireless -- but there was no LG G6 with ALL the specs. The U.S. unlocked and European unlocked did also qualify for official bootloader unlock, but those were limited to 32GB models only. And the U.S. was the only LG G6 sold world-wide that had Qi wireless. Yes, they all have microSD card expansion -- but only the Asian models had 64GB internal memory + microSD card and then even fewer Asian models had Quad DAC. NONE of the the "better" LG G6 was on the bootloader unlock list, and NONE had "all" the specs.
LG had a winning phone on paper, but they cut that paper up and shipped it to various parts of the world. You could not tape it all back together to get the FANTASTIC phone that could have competed with the Samsung Galaxy S8/S8+. (Plus, it used "last year's Snapdragon 821.)
Only with the LG G6 Plus (which was NOT bigger, just had more specs) -- released MONTHS later as a follow-up to the LG G6 -- did LG include quad DAC and more storage for ALL countries where it was sold. It was the LG G6 they should have sold in the first place! The mid-year LG G6 Plus (South Korean edition) was the phone LG should have released at the BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.
BUT even then, only the South Korea LG G6 Plus also had Qi wireless charging -- but NOT the European LG G6 Plus or Taiwan variant or others. WHY? (Apparently the LG G6 Plus was not released in U.S. markets officially.) And the super-duper South Korea LG G6 Plus was not on the official bootloader unlock list. NONE of the LG G6 Plus are on the bootloader unlock list.
Also by this time (mid year 2017) when the LG G6 Plus was released, there was no excuse not to have Snapdragon 835. The South Korea LG G6 Plus (with Qi wireless charging, quad DAC, 64GB memory) was the phone LG should have released back in the beginning to the ENTIRE WORLD. At that point (early 2017, with the LG G6) they were beating Samsung to market and had to go with last year's Snapdragon 821. Even with "last year's" Snapdragon (which the Pixel XL also has), at the point in time (early 2017) the LG G6 Plus would have been a winner.
Instead they released parts of the phone to various parts of the world as various crippled flavors of LG G6, then later released the LG G6 Plus -- which not only made LG G6 buyers feel STUPID (they should have waited for the BETTER phone)... but then LG then still didn't fix the "last year" Snapdragon issue. Who is going to pay NEW prices for a Snapdragon 821 phone in mid-2017, MONTHS after other phones with Snapdragon 835 is on the market?
The mid-2017 LG G6 Plus should have had Snapdragon 835, and Qi wireless for all countries, as well as bootloader unlock at least for U.S. and Europe (like the LG G6). Maybe LG felt that would step on the release of the LG V30, but so what? It would have made amends for their very idiotic "regionalization" specs scheme for the LG G6 at the beginning of the year. Also, the LG V30 has AMOLED with a bigger display, so they would not have been identical phones.
OK, rant over about the LG G6 -- but LG has said over and over that now with the "V" series, the "G" series is no longer their premier phone. And how they treated the G6 really proved that point. I'm afraid they will do the same with the G7, and you would say, "I should have gotten the LG V30".
I think LG's attitude is wrong. I think they should release TWO top tier flagship phones per year, like Samsung does.
THIRD, bootloader unlock and root.
For the LG G6, LG did not release the "open market" variants (which are eligible for bootloader unlock) until several weeks later, and only placed them on bootloader unlock list in June 2017. June 30, for the LG G6 US997, practically July 1!
Already I'm waiting until DECEMBER for the LG V30 US998, and hoping it will be placed on the bootloader unlock list by the end of the year. But could be even January 2018.
For those who don't care about root and buy from carrier stores, this third point may not matter. You'll have your LG G7 by March 2018. For those who care about specs, you can always order from South Korea -- but you'll pay full price. Unless LG messes up again and waits to release the "super duper" spec "LG G7 Plus" in mid-2018.... even the one from South Korea -- like they did with the LG G6 Plus.
CONCLUSION
So, even though the G7 will have some slight improvements, I'm afraid LG will mess it up with stupid "regionalized" specs scheme again. Even if they don't, still the version that I want (open market) would probably not be available until mid-year.
Maybe they should wait for the V40... or the G8... or the V50... or the G9.....
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Maybe they should wait for the V40... or the G8... or the V50... or the G9.....
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At some point you have to jump into the river and swim.
I used to upgrade every year. 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014. Phones that were obviously better, faster, had more features I wanted. LG phones, Nexus phones, and basically the smaller version of the Moto Nexus 6.
The 2014 Moto XT1225 is the longest period I've owned a phone to use as daily driver.
I even briefly owned a 2015 LG G4 I won in a launch contest, but sold it because I still loved my 2014 Moto XT1225.
I've also worked on family members and friends' newer phones (LG, Samsung), but still liked my phone better.
Only with the 2017 LG V30, I'm about to jump back in again.
Thank you friend
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ChazzMatt said:
Somebody asked me a question in a PM which is worth discussing. My answer is easy -- LG V30. But my priorities may differ from others, so the answer may be different for you.
LG V30 or 2018 LG G7?
I would choose the LG V30.
FIRST, it has all the specs (except for front facing stereo speakers) I desire in a phone.
OK, maybe it could have more RAM, maybe an LED notification light, maybe a slightly larger battery (even though this one is getting good reviews). But the LG V30 hits most of the boxes I wanted:
Qi wireless charging (which I have now),
1440p OLED display (which I have now),
at least 64GB internal memory (which I have now),
headset jack (which I have now) +
Snapdragon 835 (which is a next gen gigabit LTE chipset) and
high IP rating (which is requisite now for 2017 top-tier smartphones). Those that don't have that -- cough -- Essential, OnePlus are pretenders.
Even though I have a 2014 Moto XT1225, thanks to the stellar specs it had, it really kept pace with phones through 2015 and 2016. (Snapdragon 805, 3GB RAM, 64GB internal memory, 3900 mAh battery, 1440p AMOLED display, Qi wireless charging, 21MP rear camera, 3.5mm headset jack).
Sure, each year brought iterative CPU updates, but only with the 2017 phones was there a feeling I needed to update. A lot of it was cumulative: stuff like fingerprint sensors, more RAM, and high IP ratings which became common (Motorola, Samsung, LG, Pixel, even iPhone). But suddenly with Snapdragon 835 was there a real "next gen" difference not only in computing speed but also LTE download speeds.
But I didn't want to give up what I already had. Qi wireless charging was my line in the sand. Laugh at that, but it's a real convenience for me and my wife.
Point is, the LG V30 is the first phone that makes me want it as bad as the when I bought three of the 2014 Moto XT1225 phones. (I bought two for me and my wife and later bought a 3rd for emergency backup purposes.)
SECOND, why not the LG G7? Won't it be better than the LG V30?
1) Tell me how it will be better?
Front facing stereo speakers would pique my interest. Yes, more RAM would be nice.
Yes, it will probably have Snapdragon 845, but that's just an iterative update -- much like the Snapdragon 820/821. The Snapdragon 835 was the "next gen" chipset (in manufacturing process, CPU speed and LTE speed). 845 will be a slight improvement, but not earth shattering.
2) But, did you see how LG screwed up the release of the LG G6?
I don't trust them to do any better with the LG G7. They will have a nice phone "on paper" but somehow manage to mess it up.
The real problem with the LG G6 was the STUPID regionalized specs scheme.
Want more than 32GB internal storage? Only some of the Asian variants had that.
Want Quad DAC? Out of luck if you live in Europe or U.S.
Want Qi wireless charging? Better move to the U.S.!
WHY? I want more storage, better audio AND Qi wireless -- but there was no LG G6 with ALL the specs. The U.S. unlocked and European unlocked did also qualify for official bootloader unlock, but those were limited to 32GB models only. And the U.S. was the only LG G6 sold world-wide that had Qi wireless. Yes, they all have microSD card expansion -- but only the Asian models had 64GB internal memory + microSD card and then even fewer Asian models had Quad DAC. NONE of the the "better" LG G6 was on the bootloader unlock list, and NONE had "all" the specs.
LG had a winning phone on paper, but they cut that paper up and shipped it to various parts of the world. You could not tape it all back together to get the FANTASTIC phone that could have competed with the Samsung Galaxy S8/S8+. (Plus, it used "last year's Snapdragon 821.)
Only with the LG G6 Plus (which was NOT bigger, just had more specs) -- released MONTHS later as a follow-up to the LG G6 -- did LG include quad DAC and more storage for ALL countries where it was sold. It was the LG G6 they should have sold in the first place! The mid-year LG G6 Plus (South Korean edition) was the phone LG should have released at the BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.
BUT even then, only the South Korea LG G6 Plus also had Qi wireless charging -- but NOT the European LG G6 Plus or Taiwan variant or others. WHY? (Apparently the LG G6 Plus was not released in U.S. markets officially.) And the super-duper South Korea LG G6 Plus was not on the official bootloader unlock list. NONE of the LG G6 Plus are on the bootloader unlock list.
Also by this time (mid year 2017) when the LG G6 Plus was released, there was no excuse not to have Snapdragon 835. The South Korea LG G6 Plus (with Qi wireless charging, quad DAC, 64GB memory) was the phone LG should have released back in the beginning to the ENTIRE WORLD. At that point (early 2017, with the LG G6) they were beating Samsung to market and had to go with last year's Snapdragon 821. Even with "last year's" Snapdragon (which the Pixel XL also has), at the point in time (early 2017) the LG G6 Plus would have been a winner.
Instead they released parts of the phone to various parts of the world as various crippled flavors of LG G6, then later released the LG G6 Plus -- which not only made LG G6 buyers feel STUPID (they should have waited for the BETTER phone)... but then LG then still didn't fix the "last year" Snapdragon issue. Who is going to pay NEW prices for a Snapdragon 821 phone in mid-2017, MONTHS after other phones with Snapdragon 835 is on the market?
The mid-2017 LG G6 Plus should have had Snapdragon 835, and Qi wireless for all countries, as well as bootloader unlock at least for U.S. and Europe (like the LG G6). Maybe LG felt that would step on the release of the LG V30, but so what? It would have made amends for their very idiotic "regionalization" specs scheme for the LG G6 at the beginning of the year. Also, the LG V30 has AMOLED with a bigger display, so they would not have been identical phones.
OK, rant over about the LG G6 -- but LG has said over and over that now with the "V" series, the "G" series is no longer their premier phone. And how they treated the G6 really proved that point. I'm afraid they will do the same with the G7, and you would say, "I should have gotten the LG V30".
I think LG's attitude is wrong. I think they should release TWO top tier flagship phones per year, like Samsung does.
THIRD, bootloader unlock and root.
For the LG G6, LG did not release the "open market" variants (which are eligible for bootloader unlock) until several weeks later, and only placed them on bootloader unlock list in June 2017. June 30, for the LG G6 US997, practically July 1!
Already I'm waiting until DECEMBER for the US998, and hoping it will be placed on the bootloader unlock list by the end of the year. But could be even January 2018.
So, even though the G7 will have some slight improvements, I'm afraid LG will mess it up. Even if they don't, still the version that I want (open market) would probably not be available until mid-year.
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No offense but, your write up seems like an awful lot of work to explain the common sense situation with every consumer decision everyone makes on...anything, ever. You could buy a phone....or wait because the next model could be better. You could buy a toaster...or wait because the next model could be better. That is literally the point..."things" we spend money on need to show they're "worthy" of our dollars so they have to come with slight "improvements" to wow us.....
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No offense but, your write up seems like an awful lot of work to explain the common sense situation with every consumer decision everyone makes on...anything, ever. You could buy a phone....or wait because the next model could be better. You could buy a toaster...or wait because the next model could be better. That is literally the point..."things" we spend money on need to show their "worthy" of our dollars so they have to come with slight "improvements" to wow us.....
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But with LG it's a little different. They treat the G series differently from the V, and that's been a recent development. The G series (Optimus G aka G1, G2, G3, G4) were the premier phone from LG. Some people still don't realize that LG executives have publicly stated over and over the V series is now the premier phone and the G series is for people who don't care about specs.
Just like since people don't realize T-Mobile is no longer dev-friendly!
The LG G7 will be announced in January, supposedly released in February. This is now mid-November. So, it's a real question, do I wait 2 or 3 months to buy the "newer" LG phone or buy now? Based on how LG thinks of the "G" series, I think buy now. Because the "newer" phone coming out is not LG's premier 2018 phone -- that will be the LG V40. They'll find SOME WAY to make sure the G7 is not "too good".
Even Samsung treats their Galaxy S/S+ more equally to Note series than LG does with G and V series. I know some people have disagreed with this opinion, but Samsung basically releases TWO premier phones per year -- S/S+ in early year, and then Note at end of year. There's enough industry movement in specs throughout the year (RAM, cameras, maybe newer CPUs) to justify that. What is the "norm" at the beginning of the year looks old by end of the year.
I will be very surprised if the G7 is substantially better than the LG V30. It won't have a 7th gen OLED display, they barely got the 6th gen up and running. It might have 6GB RAM, but I would bet they will regionalize that and give that to South Korea and no one else. It probably won't have front facing stereo speakers. IF they do what they did with the LG G6, some regions may have quad DAC, but others won't.
Maybe 128GB internal memory? That would be nice, but will ALL countries get that?
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That's pretty much what I was insinuating.
you could still wait an buy the v30 in February probably much cheaper, if the g7 is not what you wanted. and i guess they still mess up the release next time. so g7 in May/June...!?
Don't know what the point of this topic really is. OP does not own a V30 and nobody knows jack about the G7. Total personal if you want to spend budget now or wait till price drops or if the new phone will be better...
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Don't know what the point of this topic really is. OP does not own a V30 and nobody knows jack about the G7. Total personal if you want to spend budget now or wait till price drops or if the new phone will be better...
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The point is "Will the G7 be better than the V30"?
I know all about the V30, but I'm waiting for the dev version. (Besides extensive research, I have fondled several in stores.) I actually know about a lot of LG phones -- from either owning them or working on them (rooting, setting them up, maintaining) for friends.
And I know -- even if you don't seem to? -- LG's stated philosophy on the G series starting with the 2015 G4 is: "Don't make it 'too good'.
You don't have to know the specs of the LG G7. Last year the specs "on paper" of the G6 were great, but you couldn't buy an LG G6 with ALL the stated specs. LG regionalized the specs, so no one got a great phone.
So, the choice between the two phones is easy. The answer is easy.
How long you want to wait to buy the LG V30, for price drops, is personal choice.
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The point is will the G7 be better than the V30?
I know all about the V30, but I'm waiting for the dev version. And I know -- even if you don't seem to? -- LG's stated philosophy on the G series. "Don't make it 'too good'.
You don't have to know the specs of the LG G7. Last year the specs "on paper" of the G6 were great, but you couldn't buy an LG G6 with ALL the stated specs. LG regionalized the specs, so no one got a great phone.
So, the choice between the two phones is easy.
How long you want to wait to buy the LG V30, for price drops, is personal choice.
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I do know the philosophy (don't make it personal as always, and yes I have stated you don't own a V30 yet, but that is a fact you mentioned yourself). But philosophy as well as strategy can be easily changed especially when you are fighting/competing and not being the best on a lot of subjects. I think by now they will be realizing that "Don't make it too good" is a stupid strategy and need to reevaluate G7 philosophy.
I think they are already making that strategy too much appearant on roll out plan over the world. Europe lot of countries still no V30
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I do know the philosophy (don't make it personal as always, and yes I have stated you don't own a V30 yet, but that is a fact you mentioned yourself). But philosophy as well as strategy can be easily changed especially when you are fighting/competing and not being the best on a lot of subjects. I think by now they will be realizing that "Don't make it too good" is a stupid strategy and need to reevaluate G7 philosophy.
I think they are already making that strategy too much appearant on roll out plan over the world. Europe lot of countries still no V30
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Not making it personal, but I explained in detail LG's G series philosophy. Stated publicly by LG themselves many times over the past couple of years, in a more polite way of course.
This article below alludes to it, but I read others where the reporter said "off the record" execs were very plain spoken.
https://www.androidcentral.com/lg-g6-shows-lgs-commitment-v-line
Therefore it seemed you still didn't seem to know it... per proof in your post saying no one knew the specs of the G7. My point clearly is we don't need to know the specs.
And yes, that philosophy NEEDS to change. Samsung doesn't do that with their Galaxy S/S+ models vs Note, and neither should LG with G vs V.
The G7 will be announced in Feb and go on sale in June.
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The G7 will be announced in Feb and go on sale in June.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't go rushing them in to a release date. They may need until August.
It won't be ready for prime time either. They will ship reviewers a 6 month old pre-production model and the first run will be buggy. By october you might see it at it's full potential.
They announced that g7 will be announced in March / May, lg is going back to drawing board for g7, don't know what happened but things don't look good
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They announced that g7 will be announced in March / May, lg is going back to drawing board for g7, don't know what happened but things don't look good
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What "happened" was last year's G6: Regionalized specs, extremely slow rollout is what happened -- coupled with "last year's" Snapdragon. They went with 821 to BEAT Samsung to market, and they didn't beat them to market because of slow rollout.
Other companies like HTC, Motorola were able to sell phones with 835 even after S8/S8+ was released.
So, LG is re-examining all their flawed business practices for the G series, including even the name.
They also need to preemptively place the open market flagship phones on their bootloader unlock list.
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They announced that g7 will be announced in March / May, lg is going back to drawing board for g7, don't know what happened but things don't look good
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The LG G7 is cancelled and will be replaced by some diffrent kind of line/model.
Source: https://www.androidcentral.com/lg-g7-video (watch the video)
If G7 was to follow the last year G6 model (release it fast but with "last years" SoC ) it make sense. LG is usually slow to release after announcing a phone and by the time the phone is out there are already rivals out with the newest SoC. The V30 already looks like 2017 flagship for LG ( what G7 should have been) repeating this business model does not make sense. I suppose we are still going to see one flagship from LG every year, but only one so no more G and V models) and the cycle will change probably released and hopefully available in summer. This is probably what the message says, competing with Samsung for an early release with no SoCs available does not make sense. the G7 was a mess, released in multiple variants with missing features and released with previous year's SoC . By the time they release the 128 GB version V30 was already announced which is a much better phone.
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. the G6 was a mess, released in multiple variants with missing features and released with previous year's SoC . By the time they release the 128 GB version V30 was already announced which is a much better phone.
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Right. And that G6+ model released in July, still had Snapdragon 821.
Samsung manages to release two flagships per year. LG can do it too. But Samsung differentiates the Galaxy S/S+ series from the Note series while not demoting S/S+. Past couple of years, especially with the G6 it was as if LG didn't want to make it TOO GOOD. "Can't give everyone quad DAC or extra storage or Qi wireless charging. That would make it better than our V20." WHO CARES? Put the best phone out there you can.
Yes, the V30 is what the G6 SHOULD have been.
Now go out there and give us an even better one for whatever the G7 replacement is going to be. Make it better than the V30. I dare you.
Give it better selfie camera, slightly bigger battery, more RAM, stereo speakers. Give it dual cameras with one that can also do portrait mode via software.
Make the 2018 V40 team break out into a sweat. "How are we going to top that?"
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So it appears that I am eligible to receive either $425 cash or $700 credit towards an LG smartphone. My LG G4 previously bootlooped of course. Which option is recommended?
1. Keep unlocked LG G6 and get $425 cash.
2. Use $700 credit to get unlocked LG V30 ($675 at bhphoto) and sell LG G6.
It seems like the V30 is an upgrade across the board. Except maybe the screen, I am not sure how the oled compares to the LCD on the G6. Also, it is interesting that the average review score on this site is lower for the V30 vs the G6.
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So it appears that I am eligible to receive either $425 cash or $700 credit towards an LG smartphone. My LG G4 previously bootlooped of course. Which option is recommended?
1. Keep unlocked LG G6 and get $425 cash.
2. Use $700 credit to get unlocked LG V30 ($675 at bhphoto) and sell LG G6.
It seems like the V30 is an upgrade across the board. Except maybe the screen, I am not sure how the oled compares to the LCD on the G6. Also, it is interesting that the average review score on this site is lower for the V30 vs the G6.
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Oled is literally the best screen it's way more colorful than LCD that's why those Samsung TVs cost a lot of money oled for lifeeeee
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Also the lg v30 is amazing only bad part is the dual camera also why are you getting 425/700 you have some sort of reward program
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V30 is more evolved version of the G6. Sleeker and has ALL the specs.
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Oled is literally the best screen it's way more colorful than LCD that's why those Samsung TVs cost a lot of money oled for lifeeeee
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Also the lg v30 is amazing only bad part is the dual camera also why are you getting 425/700 you have some sort of reward program
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The LCD on the G6 is damn good. Near perfect blacks for an LCD.
He was awarded for his participation in a class-action law suit.
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The LCD on the G6 is damn good. Near perfect blacks for an LCD.
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But no G6 has all the specs of the V30 -- Qi wireless charging, 64GB internal storage, quad DAC.
Plus the V30 has Snapdragon 835 vs G6 with 2016 Snapdragon 821.
The V30 is complete package the G6 SHOULD have been.
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The LCD on the G6 is damn good. Near perfect blacks for an LCD.
He was awarded for his participation in a class-action law suit.
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So there was something wrong with his phone it blew up lol
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Nakedsnake14 said:
So there was something wrong with his phone it blew up lol
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He had a G4 and entered a class action lawsuit. That's where the 700 rebate or 425 cash is coming from. He's asking should he upgrade.
To OP:
I say go for the cash.
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He had a G4 and entered a class action lawsuit. That's where the 700 rebate or 425 cash is coming from. He's asking should he upgrade.
To OP:
I say go for the cash.
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Should you need a phone to exchange your g4.... (I assume you have to) go for the V30!
I just went the same way (with no rebate involved)
You will not regret this.
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But no G6 has all the specs of the V30 -- Qi wireless charging, 64GB internal storage, quad DAC.
Plus the V30 has Snapdragon 835 vs G6 with 2016 Snapdragon 821.
The V30 is complete package the G6 SHOULD have been.
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We all know which phone has what specs. I'm talking about the display. I don't know why you had written all those words.
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We all know which phone has what specs. I'm talking about the display. I don't know why you had written all those words.
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Because specs matter. And the display is fine. I own three of these phones.
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Because specs matter. And the display is fine. I own three of these phones.
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We all know you own three. You tell us every day. I simply said the LCD on the G6 is good. I never said one phone is better than another. Are we going to start this again?
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We all know you own three. You tell us every day. I simply said the LCD on the G6 is good. I never said one phone is better than another. Are we going to start this again?
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Not sure what you want to start. The V30 is clearly superior to the G6. (You are even posting from V30.)
That's what the op really wanted to know -- which is better? The G6 was basically a prototype for the V30. But had incomplete specs and 2016 Snapdragon.
If there was a problem with the display I wouldn't own three V30/V30+, is my point and I will make that point every time it's relevant to the discussion.
I find it funny you think I shouldn't mention that, when months ago I was waiting for the open market US998 to be released and some members seemed to find ways to mention I didn't even own this phone yet. (Yet, I knew all about it.) Well, I own three now and two of them will soon be bootloader unlocked and rooted... Hopefully soon all three if LG adds the V30+ to the list.
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Not sure what you want to start. The V30 is clearly superior to the G6. (You are even posting from V30.)
That's what the op really wanted to know -- which is better? The G6 was basically a prototype for the V30. But had incomplete specs and 2016 Snapdragon.
If there was a problem with the display I wouldn't own three V30/V30+, is my point and I will make that point every time it's relevant to the discussion.
I find it funny you think I shouldn't mention that, when months ago I was waiting for the open market US998 to be released and some members seemed to find ways to mention I didn't even own this phone yet. (Yet, I knew all about it.) Well, I own three now and two of them will soon be bootloader unlocked and rooted... Hopefully soon all three if LG adds the V30+ to the list.
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Let me make this elementary for you:
I never responded to OP. I responded to another.
I never said anything about the V30's display.
Then, here you come, riding in your white horse that has the staggers and blind in one eye not seeing the picture clearly, and defending the V30 unnecessarily.
Here again, you tell us you own three V30's. I guess that means you know three times as much as the rest of us.
Guess what, we own the V30, too. OMG, imagine that.
Now back the **** down and stop being an ass like you often do to people.
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Let me make this elementary for you:
I never responded to OP. I responded to another.
I never said anything about the V30's display.
Then, here you come, riding in your white horse that has the staggers and blind in one eye not seeing the picture clearly, and defending the V30 unnecessarily.
Here again, you tell us you own three V30's. I guess that means you know three times as much as the rest of us.
Guess what, we own the V30, too. OMG, imagine that.
Now back the **** down and stop being an ass like you often do to people.
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I was responding the question posed by the op, by adding information to your post.
Not sure what you are arguing about.
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I was responding the question posed by the op, by adding information to your post.
Not sure what you are arguing about.
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Lol
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The LCD on the G6 is damn good. Near perfect blacks for an LCD.
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Even if that's true - I find myself skeptical - OLED has better response times and should be more efficient unless the brightness is constantly at 100% and displaying light colors. With auto-brightness allowed to do its thing, I'd bet on OLED.
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I'd say use the credit and get the OM V30. Consider:
The V30 is more or less current hardware
The V30's screen-on time reportedly varies between "adequate" and "amazes even Samsung shills"
You're straight up "getting" $250 more off the lawsuit result by buying it from B&H
You can turn around and sell your g6 for an additional $200+, half of what you'd get if you just took the cash anyway
The only potential problem you face is getting a display panel with less-than-ideal uniformity at low brightnesses... not sure if B&H will exchange it if it bothers you, and LG refuses to cover it under warranty. Blatant defects (lines/bands/dead LEDs/etc) shouldn't be an issue, though.
Unless you really love your g6, or are hard-pressed for the immediate cash payout, the choice seems pretty obvious to me.
Looking Glass said:
Should you need a phone to exchange your g4.... (I assume you have to) go for the V30!
I just went the same way (with no rebate involved)
You will not regret this.
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I have the V30+
It's my least favorite phone out of the 4 I currently have.
I went with the 425$ and I kept the V30+ for a whopping 3 months before I paid it off and traded it in to get 50% off my EIP on the S9+ (TMobile US)
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I would keep the G6 and the $425 cash
v30 has too many problems. i would have returned mine but i dropped it and scratched the side. the software on this phone seems underdeveloped. weird crashes for no reason in apps like netflix. i also have the blotchy blacks on the OLED. i can live with it, but would not choose it again. if you like your g6, hang onto it.
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I would keep the G6 and the $425 cash
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G6 specs are not as good as the LG V30. The V30 is what the G6 should have been.
Next gen Snapdragon (not 2016 Snapdragon in a 2017 phone), Qi wireless charging (for all variants), quad DAC (for all variants), at least 64GB storage (for all variants).
Hello guys my screen on my h932 is messed up and even though i love this phone i dont want another lg phone nor want or need a 1000 dollar phone all i need is a phone that is as vanilla as possible and can play good music like the v30 does.
Any idea what device can do those?
I dont mind flashing custom rom to get those beautiful sounds
The Razer Phone 2 is pretty good, BUT you need a dongle.
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The Razer Phone 2 is pretty good, BUT you need a dongle.
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Thanks man ill check it out
el.quechon said:
Hello guys my screen on my h932 is messed up and even though i love this phone i dont want another lg phone nor want or need a 1000 dollar phone all i need is a phone that is as vanilla as possible and can play good music like the v30 does.
Any idea what device can do those?
I dont mind flashing custom rom to get those beautiful sounds
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Don't think there's any non LG phone with this good audio. Try and see if Axon phones have a high quality dac
Otherwise I'd say redmi k20 pro is a pretty solid phone for the price of around 350$
I was also thinking about maybe replacing the screen but i see that tmobile v30 costs almost the same as a replacement screen
el.quechon said:
Hello guys my screen on my h932 is messed up and even though i love this phone i dont want another lg phone nor want or need a 1000 dollar phone all i need is a phone that is as vanilla as possible and can play good music like the v30 does.
Any idea what device can do those?
I dont mind flashing custom rom to get those beautiful sounds
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Get another V30 -- especially V30+. Are you a T-mobile customer? Even T-mobile customers often use US998 instead of T-mobile H932. The Dev who rooted the T-mobile H932 sold it, briefly got a crappy OnePlus, then came back to V30 but got US998 V30+. He's a T-mobile customer.
You can get MINT US998V30+ for like $130 on eBay.
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Get another V30 -- especially V30+. Are you a T-mobile customer? Even T-mobile customers often use US998 instead of T-mobile H932. The Dev who rooted the T-mobile H932 sold it, briefly got a crappy OnePlus, then came back to V30 but got US998 V30+. He's a T-mobile customer.
You can get MINT US998V30+ for like $130 on eBay.
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Thanks a lot man i will be doing that buying right now
Edit: ordered already that quality of music from v30 cant keep me away from it
I cracked my V30 screen too, couldn't stand looking at it anymore so I grabbed a mint condition V40 for $180. The screens only .4 inches bigger but that lil bit makes a huge difference. Plus the colors/resolution are much better too. V50 is nearly identical except for 128GB vs 64GB, a lil bigger battery and 5G, everything else is same, chip, RAM, screen, size.. Still use the V30 though for root apps.
This is what I would get if my V30 died today:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/362882303051
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I cracked my V30 screen too, couldn't stand looking at it anymore so I grabbed a mint condition V40 for $180. The screens only .4 inches bigger but that lil bit makes a huge difference. Plus the colors/resolution are much better too. V50 is nearly identical except for 128GB vs 64GB, a lil bigger battery and 5G, everything else is same, chip, RAM, screen, size..
Still use the V30 though for root apps.
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My two US998 V30+ are both 128GB.
2018 V40 (Snapdragon 845) has completely different chipset from 2019 V50 (Snapdragon 855).
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HKSpeed said:
This is what I would get if my V30 died today:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/362882303051
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Nah. Notch.
If you're going to get a 2018 LG 64GB Snapdragon 845, get the LG V35 not the V3l40
V35 is a V40 in a V30 case, but with no notch.
V35 is also less expensive than the V40, but same internal specs. Not only sold by AT&T, but Amazon, several Latin America variants and North American Open Market, all of which can be cross flashed.
Drawback is the only ones available are 64GB. I have one mint, still in the box.
Brazil got 128GB V35+, but I can't get one online.
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Nah. Notch.
If you're going to get a 2018 LG 64GB Snapdragon 845, get the LG V35 not the V3l40
V35 is a V40 in a V30 case, but with no notch.
V35 is also less expensive than the V40, but same internal specs. Not only sold by AT&T, but Amazon, several Latin America variants and North American Open Market, all of which can be cross flashed.
Drawback is the only ones available are 64GB. I have one mint, still in the box.
Brazil got 128GB V35+, but I can't get one online.
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Are either of the V35 or V40 bootloader unlocked yet? That would be a major dealbreaker for me.
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Drawback is the only ones available are 64GB. I have one mint, still in the box.
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LMFAO man, when my V30 dies I'm going to PM you to buy a V30 from you. You have about 10.
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Are either of the V35 or V40 bootloader unlocked yet? That would be a major dealbreaker for me.
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EU V40 has the LG official bootloader unlock.
All others including V35 have paid root through TeamViewer, which may or may not include Bootloader Unlock. People remote into your PC and work on your phone through your PC. Costs like $20, I think?
Or you can buy a used phone, already rooted from China seller.
This is why V35 in particular never took off in this forum (unlike V30), and has no custom ROMs, etc.
Dev runningnak3d started working DYI Bootloader Unlock and Root on the V35, then gave up.
V35 is a better phone than the V40. It's sad that LG caved into the notch on the V40.
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EU V40 has the LG official bootloader unlock.
All others including V35 have paid root through TeamViewer, which may or may not include Bootloader Unlock. People remote into your PC and work on your phone through your PC. Costs like $20, I think?
Or you can buy a used phone, already rooted from China seller.
This is why V35 in particular never took off in this forum (unlike V30), and has no custom ROMs, etc.
Dev runningnak3d started working DYI Bootloader Unlock and Root on the V35, then gave up.
V35 is a better phone than the V40. It's sad that LG caved into the notch on the V40.
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So no, they aren't That's a shame, there's no way I'm letting someone into my PC on TV, that's insane. Still rocking the 128GB V30+ so guess I'll stick with it forever!
how about the lg g8 ( unlocked from sprint/verizon ) ? any possibility of flashing stock rom on that?
I went with the v30 im getting it today the 998 version 128gb just 130 dollars didnt want to spend too much money been happy with v30 when the new one dies ill get v40 maybe
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I went with the v30 im getting it today the 998 version 128gb just 130 dollars didnt want to spend too much money been happy with v30 when the new one dies ill get v40 maybe
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That's called the V30+ and you've made the right choice.
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Get another V30 -- especially V30+. Are you a T-mobile customer? Even T-mobile customers often use US998 instead of T-mobile H932. The Dev who rooted the T-mobile H932 sold it, briefly got a crappy OnePlus, then came back to V30 but got US998 V30+. He's a T-mobile customer.
You can get MINT US998V30+ for like $130 on eBay.
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Now $125 from same seller:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-US998-128GB-Titan-Black-Unlocked-Smartphone-9-10/183795406681
Got my baby it looks brand new
I am in the same boat: My H932 V30+ is finished, digitizer got wonky to the point where I couldn't use it anymore. I didn't want to spend $150 to repair it this time, but also not sure what to choose instead.
Following are my thoughts:
1) I love V30+ and would buy another in a heartbeat if I could get a new one at a reasonable price with 2 years warranty. Between my wife's and my own V30 I've seen enough issues that I want (need) that warranty. Buying used or "seller refurbished" I'd assume that either the battery is in poor shape, OR the phone has been opened and lost IP68, OR both. I don't trust ”mint" to mean anything other than "no deep scratches". I am not ruling it out, but it has to be cheap compared to the alternatives.
2) I always found V35 a great alternative, being a V30 with 6GB/SD845. I really kick myself for not buying one of those unlocked Cricket/AT&T units for $149 last summer. Right now it's probably my best bet at ~$275-300 new (2 years warranty). Downsides are just 64GB (not much on an A/B slot phone). And it would be an AT&T model which cannot be updated without cross-flashing -- which will lose that 2 year warranty anyway. Non-AT&T variants (ULM/GFI) are overpriced.
3) I've looked at G8, which is now $4-500 new for TMO/AT&T variants (more for factory unlocked QM7 variants). Solid specs with 6GB/128GB/SD855. It also supports Band 71 which I would like: If TMO ever goes live with B71 where I live, I'll switch my Red Pocket plan from AT&T to TMO and gain VoLTE. (V30 and V35 don't have B71, except H932 which I would never buy again). But G8 price is still too high for me. And I hate that power button on the side, love V30's fingerprint/power combo on the back. I am OK with G8's form factor and notch, although not as elegant as V30/V35. I also found my V30 screen to be better than G8, even after adjusting color and brightness settings.
4) I don't really need root: I can uninstall bloat and trackers with ADB, and I am more concerned about warranty anyway. But I hate not having the OPTION to root after the warranty period. That of course means V30 > V35 > G8: I don't expect G8 will ever get root. I am not ruling out remote root of V35, though I dislike it as much as the next guy. And I doubt there will ever be custom ROMs to keep V35 relevant after LG stops updating.
5) Unfortunately Quad DAC is less of a priority for me than it was: In just a couple months Meniere's disease has killed my ability to listen to music at anything but the most rudimentary level. I am still hoping I can beat it or improve it over time, so having the Quad DAC would be nice. But if such a wonderful thing were to happen, I could just buy a USB DAC or Shanling M0. Most of my listening is (was) at home anyway.
6) I checked OnePlus 7T in a TMO store and would consider it (not from TMO, of course) if it cost less (currently $599); and more importantly, if the form factor wasn't so ridiculous: It's narrower than V30 and about 12 inches long (well, maybe not quite ) The OnePlus notch is the best I've seen, and I could live with it.
I've been using my old Nexus 5 backup phone for the last few weeks, hoping some deal will come out to sway me one way or another. But that may not happen until after MWC in late February...
Any thoughts or input are much appreciated.
Edit: I saw the eBay listing linked by @ChazzMatt and wrote the seller to ask if he can say anything about battery and whether the phones have been opened. I imagine he bought them bulk, so may not be possible for him to answer -- which I can understand.