Now I need a new phone as soon as possible. My Zuk Z1 crashed 3 weeks ago and I've been using my dad's phone from then which is a Asus Zenfone 2 with 2Gb RAM, 16 Gb storage and a Snapdragon 400. Xiaomi just held a conference in India launching the Y1 and Y1Lite, with the 435 and 425 respectively, other than that they also added a dedicated SD card slot. Other than this I don't really need much. I read a lot, listen to a lot of music and watch Youtube videos and need a lot of storage, I don't game or take pictures for that matter. The SD400 stacks up ok after 2+ years just lags a little from now and then.
Now as per trend, Xioami most probably will launch the Redmi Note 5 in January. And I personally love the Note 4 and A1. My primary concern is if I buy the Note 4 now, will it stack up well till mid 2019 or so, or should i wait for the Note 5 or should I get the new Y1 though the latter has an 5.5" HD and not a FHD display which I feel I need but the 435 might age well.
I've a question also - After rooting, can I remove pre installed apps and still get official updates ?
Any advice is appreciated.
Wait for redmi note 5 snapdragon.
want dual camera then wait for 5... or else our rn4 is ready to serve...though if you can wait it'll always be better...so if u can wait do so or else gget rn4 coz miui9 update is also here...as for unistallin bloatware, of course u can..updates come as downloadable zip files flashable through twrp
Go for the mi note 4 64gb to get good storage both internal and external but it will be with miui.
And if you like stock android and quick updates from google then go for mi a1.. But still almost end of 2017 i would suggest to wait for redmi note 5..
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daddyodevil said:
Now I need a new phone as soon as possible. My Zuk Z1 crashed 3 weeks ago and I've been using my dad's phone from then which is a Asus Zenfone 2 with 2Gb RAM, 16 Gb storage and a Snapdragon 400. Xiaomi just held a conference in India launching the Y1 and Y1Lite, with the 435 and 425 respectively, other than that they also added a dedicated SD card slot. Other than this I don't really need much. I read a lot, listen to a lot of music and watch Youtube videos and need a lot of storage, I don't game or take pictures for that matter. The SD400 stacks up ok after 2+ years just lags a little from now and then.
Now as per trend, Xioami most probably will launch the Redmi Note 5 in January. And I personally love the Note 4 and A1. My primary concern is if I buy the Note 4 now, will it stack up well till mid 2019 or so, or should i wait for the Note 5 or should I get the new Y1 though the latter has an 5.5" HD and not a FHD display which I feel I need but the 435 might age well.
I've a question also - After rooting, can I remove pre installed apps and still get official updates ?
Any advice is appreciated.
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daddyodevil said:
Now I need a new phone as soon as possible. My Zuk Z1 crashed 3 weeks ago and I've been using my dad's phone from then which is a Asus Zenfone 2 with 2Gb RAM, 16 Gb storage and a Snapdragon 400. Xiaomi just held a conference in India launching the Y1 and Y1Lite, with the 435 and 425 respectively, other than that they also added a dedicated SD card slot. Other than this I don't really need much. I read a lot, listen to a lot of music and watch Youtube videos and need a lot of storage, I don't game or take pictures for that matter. The SD400 stacks up ok after 2+ years just lags a little from now and then.
Now as per trend, Xioami most probably will launch the Redmi Note 5 in January. And I personally love the Note 4 and A1. My primary concern is if I buy the Note 4 now, will it stack up well till mid 2019 or so, or should i wait for the Note 5 or should I get the new Y1 though the latter has an 5.5" HD and not a FHD display which I feel I need but the 435 might age well.
I've a question also - After rooting, can I remove pre installed apps and still get official updates ?
Any advice is appreciated.
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if you can wait for rn5
In case it's urgent:
Look if you need better camera and don't care about battery go for mi a1
And if you're a heavy user like me and an average camera is enough for you then go for rn4 also it has better development support for now.
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Waiting on a Redmi 3S turning up, not finding much in the way of ROMs for it?
I'm wondering too. I am looking to buy a phone and my budget gets me to a Redmi 3S. It sounds amazing on paper, it's just the phone I'm looking for, but I don't know if it has any community except the pretty fishy one on the miui forums. And no global nothing. CM support is really low, but I guess I always buy phones that were released a year before and they are in their prime of the ROM support. This one has 2 threads on XDA with no replies. And the miui forums are filled with "Thanks" comments which look like filler accounts.
I really don't know if I should go for the 3 pro or 3s pro, or just get the bigger Redmi note 3. But I don't like big phones.
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I'm wondering too. I am looking to buy a phone and my budget gets me to a Redmi 3S. It sounds amazing on paper, it's just the phone I'm looking for, but I don't know if it has any community except the pretty fishy one on the miui forums. And no global nothing. CM support is really low, but I guess I always buy phones that were released a year before and they are in their prime of the ROM support. This one has 2 threads on XDA with no replies. And the miui forums are filled with "Thanks" comments which look like filler accounts.
I really don't know if I should go for the 3 pro or 3s pro, or just get the bigger Redmi note 3. But I don't like big phones.
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if you want more dev support+heavy gaming then redmi note 3 is the way to go.if you want to use it just normally and u want devs support thn i guess redmi 3 pro is a better choice as it has better support than redmi 3s for now.
Just ordered a Redmi 3s
as a heads up, theres no bootloader unlocking as of yet (except risky unofficial ones) no root without unlocked bootloader.
i just got the 3s and i just bricked it
Well, the support for 3s is quite low at the moment. Not surprising. Two reasons - Most of the Xiaomi fans already got RN3, and second, it's just released now, wait for atleast a few months. BTW, I was going to order it, but then I heard rumors about a Redmi 4 releasing this fall with SD625 SoC & 1080p screen. So, if you want better phone with more development support, then wait for Redmi 4. But I guess, they'll release toned-down version of it in India to cut down the price. The worst case scenario for India users might be that they'll release R4 with SD435.
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Well, the support for 3s is quite low at the moment. Not surprising. Two reasons - Most of the Xiaomi fans already got RN3, and second, it's just released now, wait for atleast a few months. BTW, I was going to order it, but then I heard rumors about a Redmi 4 releasing this fall with SD625 SoC & 1080p screen. So, if you want better phone with more development support, then wait for Redmi 4. But I guess, they'll release toned-down version of it in India to cut down the price. The worst case scenario for India users might be that they'll release R4 with SD435.
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as long as it has SD card support i might get it. if the MI 5 had sd support id get that but it dosent and xiaomi is considering not using SD cards in the future (i hope they dont do that)
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as long as it has SD card support i might get it. if the MI 5 had sd support id get that but it dosent and xiaomi is considering not using SD cards in the future (i hope they dont do that)
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Well, Xiaomi wouldn't like to disappoint their fans. There's isn't any reason for them to drop SD card support. But, leaks are saying there's only 3GB 32GB variant of Redmi 4, so I wouldn't be surprised if they drop SD card support. Seriously, only a few people use SD card on 32GB phones, but all kinds of hardware supports are welcome.
I was in the same boat as you but then I cancelled my 3S Prime and ordered the Note 3. The ROMs that are on MiUi forums are very shady. Also the several variants with the same name (albeit different code names) cause a lot of confusion. The Redmi 3S Prime is a good phone but if you want XDA support, I recommend you get the Redmi Note 3.
I'm planning to buy either the Redmi Note 3 or the Le2 and can't decide which is better.
I'll list the pro's and cons for each. I hop you guys can provide a sound argument for which is better. Both of these phones are priced the same at 11,999 INR. And both of them have very similar specs. Otherwise both of them have 5.5" 1080p displays, 16MP rear facing camera, all the same sensors.
LeEco Le2
1. Snapdragon 652 (4 a72 cores, 4 a53 cores)
2. USB type C port for CDLA audio (no 3.5mm headphone jack)
3. Thinner and Lighter than Redmi Note 3 (7.5mm and 154g)
4. Quick Charge 2.0
5. 3000 MaH battery.
6. No SD card support.
7. 8MP front facing camera
8. No custom ROM support (yet)
9. Fingerprint sensor detects at 0.150 secs
Redmi Note 3
1. Snapdragon 650 (2 a72 cores, 4 a53 cores)
2. 8.7mm thin and 164g
3. Quick Charge 1.0
4. 4000 MaH battery
5. SD card supported
6. 5MP front facing camera
7. Custom ROMs are avialable
8. Fingerprint sensor detects at 0.300 secs
So it seems to be a matter of wanting a thinner,lighter phone with updated specs in the case of Le2 Vs more battery and expandable storage but older specs.
I plan to flash custom roms soon, but I would like to know, if it's getting the latest specs that's better than having more usability(with extra battery life and storage capacity).
Please help. Any advice is welcome.
P.S I've owned a Moto E 1st gen, been on cm ever since it came out.
It all comes down to your opinion and preference, le2 doesn't have sd card support, usb type c headphone jack,it has good scope for custom ROMs as it has snapdragon processor but I came here to know if le2 has any active development but there is no seperate forum or thread for it yet it may be in the near future but redmi note 3 has a specific section already because it launched before le2
You can buy le2 if you feel 32 gb is enough and you will be content with it, if you are like me and will download large files like movies,songs of high definition play many games then you shold buy the redmi note 3 with 128 GB memory card support because 32gb just wouldn't be enough, I saw some place saying that redmi note 3 can even support up to 256 GB maybe don't remember where I saw it though
In performance le2 would have an upper edge but just a tad bit. But the camera lens of le2 looked ugly to me and i saw the comparison of both the phones cameras and the le2s camera was a BIG no-no for me because it captured day light pictures of flowers as if they were in low light, I was having the same doubt about which phone to buy so I researched a little bit for the camera review and found redmi note 3 to better just look it up in Google, bcoz I'm unable to post link here
Just hang around for a bit and see what goes on in xda regarding the development
The link to redmi note3 forum-
forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-3
There is development for both snapdragon and mediatek look out for available ROMs for snapdragon . And something called le2 pro with better specs than le2 is releasing soon just look it up.
And lol I am using the moto e 1st gen too on stock android and i typed all this on my phone
Both of those will be hard to get any real development as developers don't buy either of those devices.
So don't use development as any real way to determine if you are gonna get the device.
I've decided to go for the Redmi Note 3. But it doesn't seem to be in stock for now (Flash sales). Figured the Le2 wouldn't give me enough screen on time, I travel a lot, and GPS and 4g would kill that 3000Mah battery in two to three hours flat. (Lol, especially with Pokemon Go coming out and all). And I'm using the Moto e 1st gen too, cm13 . Camera doesn't have to be great. Come on... coming from moto e, you should know that, that phone didn't even have auto focus, leave alone low light performance XD. So I'm just looking for the best price to performance ratio phone for my budget.
And I was looking from more of a hardware perspective to buy a phone, rather than development. Thanks for replying on this post. :good:
Choose the more experienced one
LeTv is actually a pretty new phone developer, they have just started the phone marketing recently. Their TV is actually really nice. But Xiaomi has been doing smart phone for a few years already. Recommend you to get Redmi, because it might do better in a time base.
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I've decided to go for the Redmi Note 3. But it doesn't seem to be in stock for now (Flash sales). Figured the Le2 wouldn't give me enough screen on time, I travel a lot, and GPS and 4g would kill that 3000Mah battery in two to three hours flat. (Lol,
especially with Pokemon Go coming out and all). And I'm using the Moto e 1st gen too, cm13 . Camera doesn't have to be great. Come on... coming from moto e, you should know that, that phone didn't even have auto focus, leave alone low light performance XD. So I'm just looking for the best price to performance ratio phone for my budget.
And I was looking from more of a hardware perspective to buy a phone, rather than development. Thanks for replying on this post. :good:
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I just ordered my redmi note 3 from amazon yesterday, I feel very happy I hope you get to order one too, and the person who said there is not much development for redmi note 3 is wrong because it has a fully working cm13
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I just ordered my redmi note 3 from amazon yesterday, I feel very happy I hope you get to order one too, and the person who said there is not much development for redmi note 3 is wrong because it has a fully working cm13
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I ordered it a couple of days back, only snapdeal could deliver to my address. Should be here before 18th. This would be the first time I would be trying anything other than stock android (other than HTC sense from cupcake xD)
teffysam said:
I ordered it a couple of days back, only snapdeal could deliver to my address. Should be here before 18th. This would be the first time I would be trying anything other than stock android (other than HTC sense from cupcake xD)
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Don't forget to video record when your opening the package incase of fraud you can have it as proof, and if taken as cash on delivery call the courier person in and make somebody give him a glass of water while you open the package and then give him the cash, you have to be careful shopping online from flipkart and amazon, and extra careful shopping on snapdeal.And I like stock Android my moto e is almost stock android, but miui is much better and with the 3 GB ram its going to be super smooth.BTW my phone is arriving on Wednesday,can't wait XD
I already paid with credit card. Thing is, the courier is India post. But fortunately the post office is nearby and I know the delivery guy. So hopefully there shouldn't be any problem.
And thanks foe the video recording suggestion. I'll do that just in case.
But another problem has come up. Apparently it's difficult to unlock the bootloader for xiaomi devices now.
Would you recommend the Redmi Note 3 Pro over the Oneplus 2 if both are going for the same price right now?
Redmi note 3 pro was better, you will get twice update a week with global dev rom.
Sent from my Redmi Note 3 using Tapatalk
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Would you recommend the Redmi Note 3 Pro over the Oneplus 2 if both are going for the same price right now?
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For Cam one plus 2 i think ....
oneplus 2 has no sd card option and costs 2 times more then redmi note 3 pro... so get a redmi note 3 pro.
160€ compared to 319€ for op2... get a redmi...
i come from an oneplus x and i am totally happy. only thing i miss is oled display
Aeonia said:
Would you recommend the Redmi Note 3 Pro over the Oneplus 2 if both are going for the same price right now?
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It depends on what you're looking for.
If for good camera, then probably one+2,if for good battery life then redmi.
There are many other thing s you have to consider, like type of display, system, sdcard slot etc. So it's really up to your personal preference.
Sent from Note 3, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3.
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oneplus 2 has no sd card option and costs 2 times more then redmi note 3 pro... so get a redmi note 3 pro.
160€ compared to 319€ for op2... get a redmi...
i come from an oneplus x and i am totally happy. only thing i miss is oled display
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Am getting them for roughly the same price.Does this change things?
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nope not for me because i have a 128 gb sd card so the op2 died for me directly as choice. XD
but if you care about gaming etc, get a op2.
i use my phone for internet and media stuff, so i dont need a good gpu. i am actually realy surprised abeit my redmi note 3 pro. if you want a good costum rom support, get one with the snapdragon (qualcom) processor.
unlock bootloader with official tool like op... worked all like charm, i am happy camera is also fine. i mean... i dont expect an dlsr but camera is pretty fine for a phone.
if your phone goes broken, you have the same ****ty china support by both sides.
additional, miui is kind of nice and you get one dev update per week.
by op you can wait much longer.
but i use aicp rom, so also no matter for me.
so all together: you get a good device if you want updates and sd cards.
if you prefer more a better camera and more performance, get a op2.
but honestly... i dont pay much attention on performance but i am a power user and my xiaomi is working like charm in pro edition with 3gb ram.
the OP2 has less performance !
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the OP2 has less performance !
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How? The 810 soc is very powerful and though it had it's share of overheating, looks like guys on the OP2 forums fixed that with a ton of kernel tweaks. i'm seeing antutu scores of between 90 - 103 on their cm14 rom's and let's not even get started on the GPU...Point is the 810 is very still a flagship soc. Snapdragon 821>820>810>>652>650...
Oh no I don't think, In benchmark s810 better than 650 yes, but in reality.... the a72 are fastest same if they are only 2 than the "old gen" cores of S810...
The GPU isn't stable a long time, when the GPU of 650 is perfectly stable ... looks manhattan longterm performance (30minutes) same if in theory 510 = 418 or 420 in practical it's a stable GPU so really better than us and same than 810, maybe one 810 could be better it's the nexus 6p... but OP2 really not ...
Hello guys
So I've been using my nexus 5x along with my moro e for few months now
Recently my nexus 5x ran into some problems I couldn't solve
So I'm now looking for new device
Is redmi note 4 worth buying for me ?
When I was using nexus 5x. ..I've been using lot of custom ROMs .. Can i expect same from redmi note 4 ?
I need notification light as well
While on nexus 5x. . if I relock my boot loader I could claim my warranty ..does the same goes with xiaomi ?
Please someone answer these questions and suggest me
Modder001
Please ignore grammatical mistakes if any
If you really like MIUI, then I'd say its worth it...There's not a lot available for custom ROMs and I don't know if there ever will be. I also am unsure if Xiaomi will ever bring Nougat to the phone either, though I would expect it at this point.
The phone is pretty fast..It's the software that is holding it back...I have a Nextbit Robin with the 808 processor (Same as your 5x), and this thing smokes the robin in real world performance (And Geekbench4).
My $.02
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The phone is pretty fast..It's the software that is holding it back...
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That's the story for every Mi and I've used a couple.
To me the best solution would be getting rid of MIUI and going with stock... but on Mi h/w. Easier said than done though. Ah well at least one can get the Google Now launcher and the app drawer.
I've been a 'flashaholic' with my previous phone the LG G3, and changing to RN4 is a pretty big deal for me(because MediaTek and MIUI)
You can't expect the same support since you're coming from a NEXUS device but there's a decent amount of ROMs for the RN4 here and more to come.
Stock MIUI 8 isn't bad actually, just paired it with root access, nougat theme and nova launcher. All good for me.
Modder001 said:
Hello guys
So I've been using my nexus 5x along with my moro e for few months now
Recently my nexus 5x ran into some problems I couldn't solve
So I'm now looking for new device
Is redmi note 4 worth buying for me ?
When I was using nexus 5x. ..I've been using lot of custom ROMs .. Can i expect same from redmi note 4 ?
I need notification light as well
While on nexus 5x. . if I relock my boot loader I could claim my warranty ..does the same goes with xiaomi ?
Please someone answer these questions and suggest me
Modder001
Please ignore grammatical mistakes if any
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if you get it for cheap then yeah. TRy getting the snapdragon version for INSANE battery life. Apart from that, the MTK version shares all the same features (like camera quality) as the snapdragon one. One thing though; the MTK one charges one hour faster that the Snapdragon version. For the record, the 4100Mah Redmi note 4 MTK charges in 2 hours and 10 minutes from 5% using a 5V 2A charger. add 1 hour for the snapdragon version.
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if you get it for cheap then yeah. TRy getting the snapdragon version for INSANE battery life. Apart from that, the MTK version shares all the same features (like camera quality) as the snapdragon one. One thing though; the MTK one charges one hour faster that the Snapdragon version. For the record, the 4100Mah Redmi note 4 MTK charges in 2 hours and 10 minutes from 5% using a 5V 2A charger. add 1 hour for the snapdragon version.
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Do you know why it takes 1 hour longer?
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Do you know why it takes 1 hour longer?
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no fast charging. Without it, the 625 SOC won't take in more current vs MTK redmi note 4 which takes 5v 2A.
Thanks to all those who replied
I'm looking forward to buy a snapdragon variant soon
I have one more doubt tho
Does Redmi note 4 has a notificationlight ?
Thanks
Modder001 said:
Thanks to all those who replied
I'm looking forward to buy a snapdragon variant soon
I have one more doubt tho
Does Redmi note 4 has a notificationlight ?
Thanks
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Yes it does.
Nougat based MIUI beta version is available. I have been using 4 GB model & my advice is to just go for it.
I have preferred MIUI & have stuck to Xiaomi handsets. Recently, I purchased Moto Z Play as Xiaomi phones were coming hybrid Sim with just 32 GB internal memory, which were not fulfilling my needs. But I was annoyed by lack of customisation, firewall, Blocklist, Call Recorder, internet speed meter & auto BackUp, which are present in MIUI & are absent in Moto Z Play. Now for Moto Z Play, I had to install a lot of additional softwares, but sense of perfection with MIUI was somehow missing. In first Redmi Note 4 sale, I purchased a 4GB variant & sold Moto Z Play for pittance.
When will redmi note 9s / pro receive the scheduled miui 12 update?
Not even the Mods on the Mi board knowing an exact release date, so how could anybody here?
Update was announced for July, latest posts on the MI board are talking of september.
Guess there's no other chance than waiting, be patient and hope that the update would work good so far and will fix some bugs that are existing much too long now...
Still no update.
Man, I remember when I bought Redmi Note 4 with the mediatek. It had 1 Gig more of ram than the SD version, and I thought back then mediatek is in better situation with the updates, but I made the mistake.
Now I have redmi note 9s, and the irony is I skipped the Note 8 pro, and Note 8 pro got the MIUI 12 much faster, even other mediatek devices got it before 9s.
I mean, not a big thing, update will eventually come, but the feeling that Xiaomi is somehow ignoring this device kinda disappoints me.
no one knows but perobably this month or next month
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Still no update.
Man, I remember when I bought Redmi Note 4 with the mediatek. It had 1 Gig more of ram than the SD version, and I thought back then mediatek is in better situation with the updates, but I made the mistake.
Now I have redmi note 9s, and the irony is I skipped the Note 8 pro, and Note 8 pro got the MIUI 12 much faster, even other mediatek devices got it before 9s.
I mean, not a big thing, update will eventually come, but the feeling that Xiaomi is somehow ignoring this device kinda disappoints me.
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i honestly feel like the wait is due to android 11s release, im sure theyre gonna give MIUI 12to us with R