With the tmobile variant having pulled the fastboot codes (**** move) its obvious we may never see a root method (that is publicly shared anyway. ?)
Current v30 users. Do you miss root? If not, why? I've always had rooted devices but this will be tough to have a stock unchangeable device. (I can't afford to buy the unlocked version at once)
I definitely miss root, but my wife has the OnePlus 3T and messing with her phone scratches that itch for me. If the V30 gets root great, if not oh well.
I don't currently have v30 and really want root back on my daily. I have a few older phones with root that does the tasks I want root for. And the V30+ coming to T-Mobile, with the ability to remove bloat with adb, I may go with it.
I have the v20 on tmobile rooted and unlocked but I feel like my wife is going to get me an upgrade as she keeps asking me about if I like it.
Haven't missed root in years.
To be honest, no.
The only thing I wanted is bootloader unlock and ROM support later on.
That's just so it prolong the life of the device. But when it's still relatively new, no it doesn't matter. Since we can use package Disabler to disable unwanted stock apps anyways.
I have yet to buy a V30 but having root isn't going to stop me from purchasing one. I am used to rooting my devices, having Nexus devices for years. I usually keep the phone close to stock though, just removing bloatware, Google garbage, modifying the HOSTS file to block ads, and backing up my SMS/MMS. Disabling apps doesn't free up space but it does effectively produce the same effect as removing them through root. The V30 is also theme friendly and there are plenty of themes out there to choose from. Most browsers offer fairly decent ad blocking but that won't work for apps that pull ads where editing the HOSTS file usually does the trick. In the end, that will make me more picky about the apps I use and to look for premium ad-free versions. Backing up texts isn't a huge deal breaker for me. I prefer the ability to but it isn't a must-have feature. All of that said... I will miss root but it isn't absolutely necessary, at least for me.
Seems like its getting more difficult to get root on newer phones....I guess next will be phasing out all custom ROM's.... :crying:
jcsww said:
I have yet to buy a V30 but having root isn't going to stop me from purchasing one. I am used to rooting my devices, having Nexus devices for years. I usually keep the phone close to stock though, just removing bloatware, Google garbage, modifying the HOSTS file to block ads, and backing up my SMS/MMS. Disabling apps doesn't free up space but it does effectively produce the same effect as removing them through root. The V30 is also theme friendly and there are plenty of themes out there to choose from. Most browsers offer fairly decent ad blocking but that won't work for apps that pull ads where editing the HOSTS file usually does the trick. In the end, that will make me more picky about the apps I use and to look for premium ad-free versions. Backing up texts isn't a huge deal breaker for me. I prefer the ability to but it isn't a must-have feature. All of that said... I will miss root but it isn't absolutely necessary, at least for me.
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Without root u can remove any app using ADB. But disabling is easier with lg package disabler. Apps and browser ad blocker use something like adguard, dns66, blokada work just has good like adaway root. personally i use blokada since it does not drain any battery unlike adguard.
Battery life and ad blocking was the biggest peeves for root with me. Any snags with this?
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Battery life and ad blocking was the biggest peeves for root with me. Any snags with this?
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Like i said in las post
For adblocking. Use blokada, dns66,
I use blockada and it works just like adaway. Doesnt drain battery.ake everything much faster (apps and browser) since theres no ads.
For battery
Do the disabling package from my guide using lg package disable.
Also what will work very well is NAPTIME. You will need adb and use the commands require for the apps to get permission and work.
I used to love to root my devices but I really don't feel the itch on the V30. Then again the last time I rooted was to put a ROM on my Note 3. Touchwiz and all the bloatware really slowed that device down. Android has come a long way since then I think.
Only things I'd miss are titanium backup and control of the governor/frequencies/ etc.
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Edit: Thanks person above, Blockada saved me from the torture of using Zedge with ads!
eduardmc said:
Like i said in las post
For adblocking. Use blokada, dns66,
I use blockada and it works just like adaway. Doesnt drain battery.ake everything much faster (apps and browser) since theres no ads.
For battery
Do the disabling package from my guide using lg package disable.
Also what will work very well is NAPTIME. You will need adb and use the commands require for the apps to get permission and work.
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Can you post a link to you guide for the package disabler please?
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jeffloan said:
Can you post a link to you guide for the package disabler please?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/guide-make-v30-faster-smoother-t3693083
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/guide-make-v30-faster-smoother-t3693083
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Thank You
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I think I sold. I'm going to miss root but I really don't need it anymore. I usually buy my apps now so I don't need to crack license verification and I have youtube red. Plus Samsung browser with unicorn seems to work for my ad problem... And blockada does wonders for non browser ad blocking. Also with oreo having substratum built in is another reason for root gone (oreo hopefully coming soon) I'll probably get the v30+ on tmobile
I miss it but quite frankly I am quite happy with this phone. I love using Android Pay (I know, I know Magisk) but even the best ROMs always have a bug or two. We have a 2 year warranty. I suspect if I truly miss it...an Exynos Galaxy will be my next phone. But for now...im quite happy with a Stock V30.
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I miss it but quite frankly I am quite happy with this phone. I love using Android Pay (I know, I know Magisk) but even the best ROMs always have a bug or two. We have a 2 year warranty. I suspect if I truly miss it...an Exynos Galaxy will be my next phone. But for now...im quite happy with a Stock V30.
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If you truly miss it, why would Exynos Samsung Galaxy be your next phone... And not LG open market version which easily has root?
The open market version of LG phones is the equivalent of Samsung flagship Exynos phones, for bootloader unlock and root.
Just buy the LG V30 which CAN be rooted, no need to buy another brand phone.
It's not that LG phones can't be rooted. You just to buy the right ones.
ChazzMatt said:
If you truly miss it, why would Exynos Galaxy be your next phone... And not LG open market version which easily has root?
The open market version of LG phones is the equivalent of Samsung flagship Exynos phones, for bootloader unlock and root.
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Well I was rambling... Hoping to keep the V30 for a while!
only reason I miss root is to have a full black theme for the screen.
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that is my question? This may be the first device I'm not in a rush to root With no cwm to do nandroid backups, or install any custom roms. At least I dont think cwm is available yet. What other benefits does rooting have right now? Does it increase battery life? Doubt it.
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that is my question? This may be the first device I'm not in a rush to root With no cwm to do nandroid backups, or install any custom roms. At least I dont think cwm is available yet. What other benefits does rooting have right now? Does it increase battery life? Doubt it.
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I did it to use Titanium to restore my apps. And to freeze uninstall bloat like tethering manager. My kids need internet on their crApple ipods when we're away from wifi.
Routing brings a lot of benefits and only one con: you void the warranty.
Basically the freedom root brings is unlimited:
You can fully customize your device to your liking. That includes boot animation, icons, status bar etc. it allows you to uninstall any app (even system apps) so it boosts up your battery and performance of the device.
But with great power comes great reasonability so you gotta be careful not to mess up your device.
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Mostly right now it's just for overclocking to compensate for some the lag a lot of users are seeing as well as enable root applications such as Root Explorer to remove system apps as well as Chainfire 3d. Plus, it's just pushing the community forward (at a rapid pace I might add). You've gotta have a root available or else there's no reason for CWM.
In addition, it's just supporting the community. Da_G worked incredibly hard and was simply amazing at making the root process available so quick. Whether you root or not is up to you and I'm not saying you can only support the community by rooting, but we should all show the devs respect and thanks for the great work they are already doing.
Ok I dont need to do that at the moment. I'm trying not to restore all my apps as they were way too many and most I didnt even use. I'm trying to start fresh with apps and only install the ones I use one by one to preserve battery life. Tethering, no need yet.
urbanshadow said:
Routing brings a lot of benefits and only one con: you void the warranty.
Basically the freedom root brings is unlimited:
You can fully customize your device to your liking. That includes boot animation, icons, status bar etc. it allows you to uninstall any app (even system apps) so it boosts up your battery and performance of the device.
But with great power comes great reasonability so you gotta be careful not to mess up your device.
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Mostly right now it's just for overclocking to compensate for some the lag a lot of users are seeing as well as enable root applications such as Root Explorer to remove system apps as well as Chainfire 3d. Plus, it's just pushing the community forward (at a rapid pace I might add). You've gotta have a root available or else there's no reason for CWM.
In addition, it's just supporting the community. Da_G worked incredibly hard and was simply amazing at making the root process available so quick. Whether you root or not is up to you and I'm not saying you can only support the community by rooting, but we should all show the devs respect and thanks for the great work they are already doing.
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I hear you guys, but at the moment I'm enjoying the device with no need to root. I dont experience this lag others complain about. Its really working rather nice for me. I'm familiar with rooting and as the dev threads start getting busier and have more things to try I will root but as for right now I just dont see the need and thats weird for me. I usually root right away device out the box before anything.
Only thing that may get to me in the long run is the inconsistent screen issues we all are facing, and battery life as time goes on.
I don't think anyone here is trying to convince you to root. Do it or not, doesn't impact any one of us.
Certain things I cannot easily live without -- Tethering being one of them so it was a no brainer for me. Plus I have been tracking data usage and you would be amazed at how many AT&T pre-installed bloatware apps just use data randomly. These apps I might ad I have never so much as opened one time, so being able to freeze them is also one of the main reasons I rooted.
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Certain things I cannot easily live without -- Tethering being one of them so it was a no brainer for me. Plus I have been tracking data usage and you would be amazed at how many AT&T pre-installed bloatware apps just use data randomly. These apps I might ad I have never so much as opened one time, so being able to freeze them is also one of the main reasons I rooted.
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How exactly do you do this? Track these apps and get precise data usage? And this may be a reason to root and freeze.
adblock .
I rooted to use TiBu to restore my apps and freeze a bunch of bloatware. I've notice that it seems to move a lot faster now without all the crap bogging it down.
That could just be the placebo effect though
s1mpd1ddy said:
I rooted to use TiBu to restore my apps and freeze a bunch of bloatware. I've notice that it seems to move a lot faster now without all the crap bogging it down.
That could just be the placebo effect though
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I actually like that TiBu can freeze apps but what I dont like is that when I've tried to reinstall apps before that you have to install each one, one by one. It'll keep popping up with the option to install each one, and I'm talking about 100+ apps. Kind of a PIA. Is this because its the free version or is it the same with the paid version?
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I actually like that TiBu can freeze apps but what I dont like is that when I've tried to reinstall apps before that you have to install each one, one by one. It'll keep popping up with the option to install each one, and I'm talking about 100+ apps. Kind of a PIA. Is this because its the free version or is it the same with the paid version?
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If you pony up and pay for it, you don't have to do this one by one. Purchasing TiBu Pro will be the best investment you can make for your phone. Seriously.
MyBackup Root is FREE and it backs up and restores apps one-click fast with no problems and it's FREE.
Did I mention it's FREE?
The names showing up in the Developer Forum are unbelievable!! So many good things to come with this phone. You are going to root eventually, why not enjoy the benefits now
jpeg42 said:
If you pony up and pay for it, you don't have to do this one by one. Purchasing TiBu Pro will be the best investment you can make for your phone. Seriously.
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I'm buying tonight.
orangekid said:
MyBackup Root is FREE and it backs up and restores apps one-click fast with no problems and it's FREE.
Did I mention it's FREE?
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Yes but it doesnt freeze pesky apps.
jpeg42 said:
The names showing up in the Developer Forum are unbelievable!! So many good things to come with this phone. You are going to root eventually, why not enjoy the benefits now
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I'm rooting tonight
-uninstalling bloat
-ad blocker
-increasing sd cache size to 4mb
-overclocking
-wifi tethering
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Maroon Mushroom said:
-uninstalling bloat
-ad blocker
-increasing sd cache size to 4mb
-overclocking
-wifi tethering
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What program do we need to use to increase the sd cache size?
I want to know the same, I think its sd booster.
And not sure why alot of people like ad blocker. I dont find the ads bothering much. Unless you guys are talking about pop ups which I've yet to experience.
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What program do we need to use to increase the sd cache size?
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Hey Maroon Mushroom, if you are browsing, can you please answer? Or anyone else have an answer? Thanks!!
Hello all,
Starting a thread to see if there is out there in XDA who happened to pick up the Ellipsis 8 yesterday for Black Friday?
I bought my Mom a smartphone finally being she was stuck with old tech and never owned a smart phone so I got her the Sony Xperia Z3v. She is overly excited.
Anyways, they gave us for free Quanta Ellipsis 8 QTAQZ3, and I have attempted the following to get root access;
1) Kingo Root
2) TowelRoot
3) Framaroot 1.9.3
Neither one of these options provided root. Upon digging up threads on XDA, I found that the older Ellipsis 7 was able to get rooted with both Kingo Root and Framaroot.
I am glad we have more interest in this tablet. I would like custom roms, but to at least root it. I actually got three of these yesterday. I have tried almost everything to root as well.
JAWheat411 said:
I am glad we have more interest in this tablet. I would like custom roms, but to at least root it. I actually got three of these yesterday. I have tried almost everything to root as well.
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Yeah I would just like to root it so I can remove all the Verizon bloat that came with it.
Yep I got 2 of them yesterday looking forward to seeing someone figure out how to root them.
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I tried all three listed above as well with no success. I would be eternally greatful for anyone who can help with rooting this device since Verizon was so keen on giving them out like candy on Black Friday.
I picked one up, havent really looked for any methods. Its been a pretty good device thus far.
I think what people need to look for in the software is some bugs like how every other root method works... i know My Verizon requests su when its first run, but anyways, this would probably be the best place to look.
Raiden8816 said:
Yeah I would just like to root it so I can remove all the Verizon bloat that came with it.
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You can get rid of most of the VZW bloat without root, using the app manager.
I would like to see a decent custom AOSP ROM for this thing.
Seems to perform about as well as the original Nexus 7, but the screen isn't as sharp or vivid... the colors are a bit washed out and bland looking, IMHO.
SquireSCA said:
You can get rid of most of the VZW bloat without root, using the app manager.
I would like to see a decent custom AOSP ROM for this thing.
Seems to perform about as well as the original Nexus 7, but the screen isn't as sharp or vivid... the colors are a bit washed out and bland looking, IMHO.
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Honestly i dont mind. For me its better than my ****ty Tab 4 that i had before it, so it works lol.
The only thing i wish is to gain root to put the nav buttons on the sides when rotated, but we havent obtained root yet.
Also multiwindow would be awesome.
Hopefully Someone Gets It!
I am hoping that one of our amazing Devs here on XDA will figure this out. I want root so I can get the full performance out of Tasker. Plus a few other things like a full debloat and such. I would have no problem making a donation to the Dev who figures this out lol.
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mike253 said:
Honestly i dont mind. For me its better than my ****ty Tab 4 that i had before it, so it works lol.
The only thing i wish is to gain root to put the nav buttons on the sides when rotated, but we havent obtained root yet.
Also multiwindow would be awesome.
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Are you referring to the Galaxy Tabs? If so I 100% feel you. I don't understand how their phones are so gooood (IMO LOL), But they fail so hard on there tablets. Im beyond done with those until they step it up...ALOT lol.
Come on people, no news is not good news. I can't do anymore digging into this until I am off this weekend.
Any updates?
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Any updates?
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Until enough people get this tablet, there won't be any incentive to develop for it...
I think this tab is awful.....I can see why its free ...and to the poster who said you can delete the Verizon bloatware ..u are wrong you can only disable some. no deleting of any system apps including the Amazon apps....We need Root bad.....the stock OS is archaic 4.4.2 and Not to add insult to injury there is no updates anytime soon according to Quanta......
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I think this tab is awful.....I can see why its free ...and to the poster who said you can delete the Verizon bloatware ..u are wrong you can only disable some. no deleting of any system apps including the Amazon apps....We need Root bad.....the stock OS is archaic 4.4.2 and Not to add insult to injury there is no updates anytime soon according to Quanta......
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Well, disabling is as good as deleting. Deleting them saves a small amount of space, a few MB... You have an SD slot, add more storage cheaply...
It is a basic tablet. I would never have bought such a tablet, but for free, what the hell, makes a nice news reader and stuff when lying in bed.
When I want a real tablet I do have a Dell Venue 11 Pro that works really well.
I am going to keep looking and digging all weekend. There has to be a way to get this rooted. I know my brother in law rooted the Ellipsis 7 with Framaroot. But, none of the versions have worked. I know it is due to the newer build of Kitkat. It just takes time for someone to find the exploit.
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I am going to keep looking and digging all weekend. There has to be a way to get this rooted. I know my brother in law rooted the Ellipsis 7 with Framaroot. But, none of the versions have worked. I know it is due to the newer build of Kitkat. It just takes time for someone to find the exploit.
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Unless someone creates an AOSP or faster ROM for this device, I just don't see what Root will actually do for us... I mean, saving 50MB of storage or whatever by removing a few apps that can be disabled without Root, doesn't seem like much incentive to a Dev, you know?
If we could get AOSP with a lean and fast kernel or something, I would be all over that like Richard Simmons on a Cub Scout, but I just don't see that happening...
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Unless someone creates an AOSP or faster ROM for this device, I just don't see what Root will actually do for us... I mean, saving 50MB of storage or whatever by removing a few apps that can be disabled without Root, doesn't seem like much incentive to a Dev, you know?
If we could get AOSP with a lean and fast kernel or something, I would be all over that like Richard Simmons on a Cub Scout, but I just don't see that happening...
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Well the main purpose for me to get root is to use things like ad blockers. Also to use xposed and titanium backup.
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Well the main purpose for me to get root is to use things like ad blockers. Also to use xposed and titanium backup.
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I have not used TI... I never really have anything to backup... I mean my pics and stuff I back up to my PC, everything else is in the cloud... when I get a new phone or hard reset one, install a ROM, etc... My stuff restores from the Play Store so I never really have to do much other than a few tweaks and set up my launcher and home screens the way I want...
Never used ad block either, but I am sure that all the ROMs I have used over the years probably had that built in...
I just wish the tablet was a bit snappier... I think a smaller footprint and a faster kernel in an AOSP ROM would help, but that's probably all you can do for these things....
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I have not used TI... I never really have anything to backup... I mean my pics and stuff I back up to my PC, everything else is in the cloud... when I get a new phone or hard reset one, install a ROM, etc... My stuff restores from the Play Store so I never really have to do much other than a few tweaks and set up my launcher and home screens the way I want...
Never used ad block either, but I am sure that all the ROMs I have used over the years probably had that built in...
I just wish the tablet was a bit snappier... I think a smaller footprint and a faster kernel in an AOSP ROM would help, but that's probably all you can do for these things....
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Well titanium backup does back up your apps and games. But the difference is when you restore them it restores all data (like launcher layout) and settings like levels in games or app preferences. This will also backup and restore stuff you didn't get from the play store. Last time I checked the play store only restores app and not data.
Ad blocking would speed the tablet up a bit online. Also the tweaks you can do after rooting would increase performance greatly.
JAWheat411 said:
Well titanium backup does back up your apps and games. But the difference is when you restore them it restores all data (like launcher layout) and settings like levels in games or app preferences. This will also backup and restore stuff you didn't get from the play store. Last time I checked the play store only restores app and not data.
Ad blocking would speed the tablet up a bit online. Also the tweaks you can do after rooting would increase performance greatly.
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I was about to respond to the other member but you made all the points I had to make haha. I 100% agree. I need root on this thing so I can run TB, Xposed, AD Away, Root Explorer, Debloat FULLY and not just disable, and a plethora of other things root is good for. Bottom line is it doesn't matter what the reason, ALL Android devices are better with root!
Hey guys,
I've read a lot of people saying that with marshmallow they feel there isn't such a need to root. So I thought I'd create a thread for people who have decided to root and what was the main reason for you to root. I know a lot of people (myself included) root because they like trying out new ROMs and features, flashing kernels etc but it'd be interesting to know if people specifically want something extra which marshmallow doesn't provide.
For me it was:
1) Adaway
2) Titanium Back up
I rooted for the servicely and naptime apps. Also, for a few Xposed modules and maybe some kernel tweaking apps down the road. I will admit, bone stock marshmallow is pretty sweet and I would be fine running it as is. I just get a little bored and want to mess with things.
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Because why not? I don't own a 6P yet but the first thing I do out of the box is unlocking the bootloader and root my Nexi. I know I'll need it for something, some day so I do it as soon as I get the phone.
Editing doze is the primary reason I will root here in a bit. And of course maybe try some ROMs. But yes Android is getting better each version, but still the need to tweak battery (doze shorten) is needed for me.
Ads
RogerPodacter said:
Editing doze is the primary reason I will root here in a bit. And of course maybe try some ROMs. But yes Android is getting better each version, but still the need to tweak battery (doze shorten) is needed for me.
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And how is that done? Do u mean greenify aggressive doze?
Not greenify. The doze parameters can be modified to force doze to activate immediately after screen off instead of waiting for 30 minutes of no activity. Also other doze parameters like motion, location and many others. The app called naptime in the play store will show you what I mean. Your phone battery will stay dead flat with screen off.
1. Custom ROM
2. Ads
3. Kernel
4. Titanium Backup
5. xPosed
6. TWRP nandroid
7. root only apps
Adaway and titanium backup
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Adblocking, Titanium Backup, Debloating, Buildprop Editor, Xposed. Not to mention kernels and roms.
1. Ads
2. Kernel
3. Titanium Backup
4. Xposed
5. TWRP
I don't have a 6p just yet, but I must admit that I'm pondering the usefulness of rooting it when I get it. If I find a way of getting rid of nagging ads when browsing the net - not all of them because the sites and devs need make some money - I won't root it
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Dunno
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Ad blocking. Mobile browsing without it is crap. I would never buy another device without root/jailbreak for that reason alone. Having a Nexus there's a ton of other good reasons (including "you can"), but that is essential.
AdAway. Ran it rootless for like three weeks, but couldn't take it anymore, also use xposed or some other modifications with time.
Usually I root to remove bloat (coming from Samsung.) But the Nexus for the most part is bloat free. So I haven't jumped on the root train yet with this phone to keep Android pay since I use it every so often.
Those that root, how do you keep Android pay working? Or do you not care for it?
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Usually I root to remove bloat (coming from Samsung.) But the Nexus for the most part is bloat free. So I haven't jumped on the root train yet with this phone to keep Android pay since I use it every so often.
Those that root, how do you keep Android pay working? Or do you not care for it?
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I'm from UK so android pay isn't really big at the moment. So that wasn't really an issue for me. I also rooted to change the dpi so I can fit more on the screen and fully utilise the screen size.
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Those that root, how do you keep Android pay working? Or do you not care for it?
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Use systemless root. Android pay still works fine.:good:
I'm no rooted as well. First phone with no root.
Will keep it that way.
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I've been a long time advocate of unlocking and rooting my devices, dating back to Windows Mobile. I loved the ability of dump bloated carrier apps, use Titanium BackUp to save and restore apps, and enable root-specific apps and features. Then, about the time I switched to a LG G5, the ability to unlock became a rarity. Around that time, I found that the LG BackUp allowed me to preform an easy restore after a system reset, carrier apps were easier to ignore and I found that rooting wasn't as much of a necessity as I remembered. Fast forward to the news that a method was discovered that allowed almost all V30s to be unlocked and rooted. My question is this: Is it really worth it to unlock and root my phone, or flash a custom ROM when this exploit will undoubtedly be patched soon? This leaves the owner to remain on the outdated firmware, which has possible security risks. Also, rooting the phone will most likely disable Android Pay, which I use regularly. Finally, one of the big selling points of this phone was the two-year warranty, which could be voided if unlocked.
I think it's great that people can finally unlock this phone, but I'd like to know what are the main reasons people are using this method and why they feel that it outweighs the risks. I've been out of the rooting/flashing loop for a while, so I'm looking forward to hearing the responses.
Thanks!
If you think you'll remain on outdated firmware you don't know much about rooting.
ROMs get monthly Android security updates. Does LG do that?
If you want to stay on stock firmware, you can flash any updated KDZ. I've been rooted since January and I flashed Oreo KDZ. I'm currently as updated as LG allows for US998'
You can have all the updates you want. Not sure why you don't think so.
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No rooting doesn't disable Android Pay. That's the whole idea of Magisk.
This topic almost smells of Troll.
ChazzMatt said:
If you think you'll remain on outdated firmware you don't know much about rooting.
ROMs get monthly Android security updates. Does LG do that?
If you want to stay on stock firmware, you had flash any updated KDZ. I've been rooted since January and I flashed Oreo KDZ.
You can have all the updates you want. Not sure why you don't think so.
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No rooting doesn't disable Android Pay. That's the whole idea of Magisk.
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Sorry... as I said, it's been a while since I rooted a phone, so I was off the mark on the update part. As for Android Pay, the last time I tried to use is on a rooted phone I got a failure notice. I have no idea what Magisk is, so that's exactly why I'm asking my original question. I'm looking for honest answers... not insults.
One other thing that I noticed was that the recommended method was the convert to the US998 Oreo in North America. The G5 I has was the carrier unlocked version which I used on Verizon. While it worked great, a couple features weren't compatible. For example, Advanced Calling only enabled HD Voice. Video Calling was unavailable. Also, Verizon visual voicemail didn't work, so most people switched to Google Voice. That caused issues with call forwarding to my LG Urbane 2. All of this things may have been resolved since then, and if they are please let me know.
ChazzMatt said:
If you think you'll remain on outdated firmware you don't know much about rooting.
ROMs get monthly Android security updates. Does LG do that?
If you want to stay on stock firmware, you can flash any updated KDZ. I've been rooted since January and I flashed Oreo KDZ. I'm currently as updated as LG allows for US998'
You can have all the updates you want. Not sure why you don't think so.
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No rooting doesn't disable Android Pay. That's the whole idea of Magisk.
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@ChazzMatt, I would not think he's trolling, as I had the very same question. I had rooted all my phones, up to the S8 Plus. Then I got a deal I could not pass on the V30 ($300 in pristine, practically new condition) and it did not take me more than a couple of days to see I liked it way more than the S8 and one of the reasons for that was that I did not feel like I needed to change anything to it. Great performance and sound, almost no bloatware and excellent battery life. So, knowing that the loophole might get patched I did unlock the bootloader but have remained stock, lurking in the rom threads until something compelling arises that make me root and leave stock behind. By the way I must thank you because you have helped so many of us in these guides.
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@ChazzMatt, I would not think he's trolling, as I had the very same question. I had rooted all my phones, up to the S8 Plus. Then I got a deal I could not pass on the V30 ($300 in pristine, practically new condition) and it did not take me more than a couple of days to see I liked it way more than the S8 and one of the reasons for that was that I did not feel like I needed to change anything to it. Great performance and sound, almost no bloatware and excellent battery life. So, knowing that the loophole might get patched I did unlock the bootloader but have remained stock, lurking in the rom threads until something compelling arises that make me root and leave stock behind. By the way I must thank you because you have helped so many of us in these guides.
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I'll give a more complete answer later tonight when I get home.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
Just the ability to cut off most ads with AdAway is compelling enough for me to root, even if it voids the warranty.
Cannot stand all the crass obnoxious ads.
The smartphone hardware is amazingly reliable nowadays, once it survives the infant mortality phase (initial failures). I figure the 30 day return period is there for infant mortality, if the phone makes it past that it is extremely likely to survive 2 years. Especially a phone like the V30 with IP68 and some MIL-STD-810 ruggedness. So in my opinion the warranty risk assumed by rooting is very slight.
(Just spilled milk on my V30S yesterday. Rinsed it off, let it dry, good to go. )
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In case of forgotten WiFi password, Wifi generator will need root and help you see your saved SSID & passwords. If you have a custom kernel, play with CPU governors either for balanced performance/battery life (Does different CPU governors responsible for the UI smoothness but reduce battery life by a few minutes?) I'll take software smoothness over battery life anyday since I carry a powerbank. BBS app needs root to check the wakelocks so that we know what's draining the battery. LG for life. Innovates awesomeness and doesn't copy others is like MERCEDES-BENZ. The Best Or Nothing.
1) Philosophy of ownership.
You paid several hundred dollars for this small handheld computer. And if you are not the "administrator", then you don't really own it. Someone else does, either the manufacturer or the carrier.
In large companies, at all the workplace desktop computers, none of the regular workers are allowed to be "admin" or "administrator". The company doesn't want you installing your own software or uninstalling their software. They often have software to track the computer usage, as it's THEIR computer anyway. You have no rights, no expectation of privacy. You are using their hardware.
At HOME, you are the admin of your own personal computer. You can do whatever you wish. Should be the same with your smartphone.
1.5 years ago Samsung sent a BRICK command via OTA update to their Galaxy 7 Note phones on purpose, to force people to return those phones for a different model. No, not all Galaxy 7 phones had the battery flaw, but Samsung deemed it in THEIR best interest to take back all the Galaxy 7 Note phones and replace them with older Galaxy S7 or S7+ phones. This was only possible because Samsung still REALLY OWNED those phones, even though people had paid several hundred dollars to USE them. Until your phone is rooted, someone else owns the phone.
2) MORE FEATURES
Better audio (Viper, etc), HIM mode on ALL headphones, Wi-Fi passwords remembered and viewable, scheduled auto reboots to clear out RAM and start the day fresh, free ad blocking without having to use VPN. You can install a volume control app that will give you 30 or even 100 volume steps. You can install an xposed mod that will let you change the idiotic battery icons in the status bar.
3) TWRP CUSTOM RECOVERY
The ability to make frequent backups that you can restore in a few minutes is an amazing feature itself. It's like having a time machine to go back before you made a mistake.
You can also use TWRP to flash/install apps and mods to make your phone more fun. Install the fonts/emojis of Android P NOW.
4) TITANIUM BACKUP
Gives you "system level" control to backup and restore previous versions of apps. You can also make some user apps be "system" apps to give them more power (like a camera or volume control app) or you can completely uninstall "system" apps a carrier installed for THEIR benefit, not yours (i.e. bloatware, which they make money on).
MORE later. I have to go to work.
There are workarounds to give you some similar features of root like VPN ad blocking -- but in doing speed tests I have higher pings (more lag) as all data is going through a VPN network before I see it. Pure root is just better, for some many reasons.
I have kept my Note 8 on samfail since its first days. Eventually I have given up hope on any further development or custom firmware options. Now out of frustration I am ready to pull the plug and just go to stock and get OTA updates and be done with it. I used to use root for so many things, mostly blocking ads, using certain apps that needed root, and just to have options and more control over the device that I own. I have stopped looking for anything or trying to stay on top of this device for at least a year, so I dont know what else there is to do with it. Ad blocking these days seems to block everything useful and I would have to whitelist so many things for it and no simple solution like the way it used to be. Now they make rooting impossible and want to charge over a grand for a new smartphone! ugh,end of rant.
Basically my Note 8 is no longer the swiss army knife that previous rooted smartphones have been for me, and I am not using anything currently that need root that i can think of. I dont know if i will ever need root. I have waited this out thinking in the future that I may need to be rooted but I just dont know anymore. Is there any point of keeping this Note 8 rooted anymore? No TWRP, no xposed,no cfw,seems like a waste to me.
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outlawbiker said:
I have kept my Note 8 on samfail since its first days. Eventually I have given up hope on any further development or custom firmware options. Now out of frustration I am ready to pull the plug and just go to stock and get OTA updates and be done with it. I used to use root for so many things, mostly blocking ads, using certain apps that needed root, and.........
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I´m on bootloader v5 so I couldn`t root it but not missing it at all. In this scenario with no development for snapdragon variant no much to play with. You´ll finally lost updates and security patches and the worst of all probably the best android version with pie.
SubwayChamp said:
I´m on bootloader v5 so I couldn`t root it but not missing it at all. In this scenario with no development for snapdragon variant no much to play with. You´ll finally lost updates and security patches and the worst of all probably the best android version with pie.
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I cant find any apps that need to have root permissions anymore that are useful to me,and now it seems root just breaks apps because of that stupid safety net check.
outlawbiker said:
I cant find any apps that need to have root permissions anymore that are useful to me,and now it seems root just breaks apps because of that stupid safety net check.
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I am on the same boat. I was waiting for future development, but the lack of it, the 80% battery and so many other things just frustrated the hell out of me. I basically want 3minit battery and Titanium backup in my devices so that when it comes time to twitch devices, I don't have to spend a day or two setting it up app by app. Other than that you are right. Not too many other apps are needed. I switched to a Pixel 3Xl to get unlocked bootloader and root. Now I'm happy with it. Stock Android seems a bit raw and unfinished at first but it does grow on you with time.
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I absolutely feel the pain of the OP. I have a S8+ on SamFail bootloader v1. I recently had the option to buy a Note 8 (bootloader v5) and couldn't decide if I wanted to switch from the semi-root of samfail'd S8+ to a stock Note 8...? Like the OP my main use is AdAway and one or two other apps that require root... I'm not sure what options are available for ad-blocking on non-rooted devices and how well they work? but that's a big one for me.
Sadly for USA variant (bootloader locked) devices the rooting/rom'ing party is over. And unless you want to stay a generation behind buying a international Exynos F model is expensive... (last years models are still expensive but usually about half of whatever the current series is)
I just gave up with root on my Note 8 about 2 weeks ago. Ad blocking is missed dearly. Just like others mentioned here, the gains for ditching root on snapdragon notes seem to be worth it. My root experience on this device just ain't the same as other devices I've rooted. My next note will be an exynos device for sure. If you don't mind setting up each app all over again I think going back to stock is good...as much as I hate to say it and be "regular". The extra 20% battery is noticeable in my daily usage too.
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I just gave up with root on my Note 8 about 2 weeks ago. Ad blocking is missed dearly. Just like others mentioned here, the gains for ditching root on snapdragon notes seem to be worth it. My root experience on this device just ain't the same as other devices I've rooted. My next note will be an exynos device for sure. If you don't mind setting up each app all over again I think going back to stock is good...as much as I hate to say it and be "regular". The extra 20% battery is noticeable in my daily usage too.
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If you're concerned about ads why haven't you tried adhell?
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If you're concerned about ads why haven't you tried adhell?
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Thanks. Didn't know about AdHell. I quickly learned of SABS too. I'll be looking into both very soon.
I have the note 8 but it's strictly for work, I have the 6t for play and honestly it's still stock, except I flashed it with the international rom from TMobiles. I just use adguard which blocks everything you want and it's a yearly subscription that doesn't cost much check it out.
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I have the note 8 but it's strictly for work, I have the 6t for play and honestly it's still stock, except I flashed it with the international rom from TMobiles. I just use adguard which blocks everything you want and it's a yearly subscription that doesn't cost much check it out.
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What does ad blocking apps do? I've had some but when I watch bootleg movies online(lol) I still see ads?
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BTW im a huge Samsung phone fan since epic tough 4g but I have up after note 8....it's just to mind boggling to root Sammy phones if your on T-Mobile like me who don't want to pay for the phone upfront ends up getting the locked boots....anyway I'm on OnePlus 6t converted to international...unlocked my boots flashed twrp flashed magisk flashed a custom kernel and that's it headache free viper4android for louder sound and subs to make the phone look the way I want it to.....
I have to admit I still play around with my note 8 especially after the pie update looks good
outlawbiker said:
I cant find any apps that need to have root permissions anymore that are useful to me,and now it seems root just breaks apps because of that stupid safety net check.
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I've been thinking for about 2 years now, since the G925V, it is the way in which we root the device that is the problem. Technically speaking, our actual method of perma-rooting a device is about the same as it was 10 years ago. And since CF stopped working on Samsung Devices, it seems no one else will really. I really think that's the problem, no one ever filled the void left by CF quitting Samsung public dev work.
Is Chainfire's way the only way? Or the only way that's really been developed?