I have kept my Note 8 on samfail since its first days. Eventually I have given up hope on any further development or custom firmware options. Now out of frustration I am ready to pull the plug and just go to stock and get OTA updates and be done with it. I used to use root for so many things, mostly blocking ads, using certain apps that needed root, and just to have options and more control over the device that I own. I have stopped looking for anything or trying to stay on top of this device for at least a year, so I dont know what else there is to do with it. Ad blocking these days seems to block everything useful and I would have to whitelist so many things for it and no simple solution like the way it used to be. Now they make rooting impossible and want to charge over a grand for a new smartphone! ugh,end of rant.
Basically my Note 8 is no longer the swiss army knife that previous rooted smartphones have been for me, and I am not using anything currently that need root that i can think of. I dont know if i will ever need root. I have waited this out thinking in the future that I may need to be rooted but I just dont know anymore. Is there any point of keeping this Note 8 rooted anymore? No TWRP, no xposed,no cfw,seems like a waste to me.
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outlawbiker said:
I have kept my Note 8 on samfail since its first days. Eventually I have given up hope on any further development or custom firmware options. Now out of frustration I am ready to pull the plug and just go to stock and get OTA updates and be done with it. I used to use root for so many things, mostly blocking ads, using certain apps that needed root, and.........
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I´m on bootloader v5 so I couldn`t root it but not missing it at all. In this scenario with no development for snapdragon variant no much to play with. You´ll finally lost updates and security patches and the worst of all probably the best android version with pie.
SubwayChamp said:
I´m on bootloader v5 so I couldn`t root it but not missing it at all. In this scenario with no development for snapdragon variant no much to play with. You´ll finally lost updates and security patches and the worst of all probably the best android version with pie.
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I cant find any apps that need to have root permissions anymore that are useful to me,and now it seems root just breaks apps because of that stupid safety net check.
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I cant find any apps that need to have root permissions anymore that are useful to me,and now it seems root just breaks apps because of that stupid safety net check.
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I am on the same boat. I was waiting for future development, but the lack of it, the 80% battery and so many other things just frustrated the hell out of me. I basically want 3minit battery and Titanium backup in my devices so that when it comes time to twitch devices, I don't have to spend a day or two setting it up app by app. Other than that you are right. Not too many other apps are needed. I switched to a Pixel 3Xl to get unlocked bootloader and root. Now I'm happy with it. Stock Android seems a bit raw and unfinished at first but it does grow on you with time.
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I absolutely feel the pain of the OP. I have a S8+ on SamFail bootloader v1. I recently had the option to buy a Note 8 (bootloader v5) and couldn't decide if I wanted to switch from the semi-root of samfail'd S8+ to a stock Note 8...? Like the OP my main use is AdAway and one or two other apps that require root... I'm not sure what options are available for ad-blocking on non-rooted devices and how well they work? but that's a big one for me.
Sadly for USA variant (bootloader locked) devices the rooting/rom'ing party is over. And unless you want to stay a generation behind buying a international Exynos F model is expensive... (last years models are still expensive but usually about half of whatever the current series is)
I just gave up with root on my Note 8 about 2 weeks ago. Ad blocking is missed dearly. Just like others mentioned here, the gains for ditching root on snapdragon notes seem to be worth it. My root experience on this device just ain't the same as other devices I've rooted. My next note will be an exynos device for sure. If you don't mind setting up each app all over again I think going back to stock is good...as much as I hate to say it and be "regular". The extra 20% battery is noticeable in my daily usage too.
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I just gave up with root on my Note 8 about 2 weeks ago. Ad blocking is missed dearly. Just like others mentioned here, the gains for ditching root on snapdragon notes seem to be worth it. My root experience on this device just ain't the same as other devices I've rooted. My next note will be an exynos device for sure. If you don't mind setting up each app all over again I think going back to stock is good...as much as I hate to say it and be "regular". The extra 20% battery is noticeable in my daily usage too.
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If you're concerned about ads why haven't you tried adhell?
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If you're concerned about ads why haven't you tried adhell?
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Thanks. Didn't know about AdHell. I quickly learned of SABS too. I'll be looking into both very soon.
I have the note 8 but it's strictly for work, I have the 6t for play and honestly it's still stock, except I flashed it with the international rom from TMobiles. I just use adguard which blocks everything you want and it's a yearly subscription that doesn't cost much check it out.
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I have the note 8 but it's strictly for work, I have the 6t for play and honestly it's still stock, except I flashed it with the international rom from TMobiles. I just use adguard which blocks everything you want and it's a yearly subscription that doesn't cost much check it out.
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What does ad blocking apps do? I've had some but when I watch bootleg movies online(lol) I still see ads?
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BTW im a huge Samsung phone fan since epic tough 4g but I have up after note 8....it's just to mind boggling to root Sammy phones if your on T-Mobile like me who don't want to pay for the phone upfront ends up getting the locked boots....anyway I'm on OnePlus 6t converted to international...unlocked my boots flashed twrp flashed magisk flashed a custom kernel and that's it headache free viper4android for louder sound and subs to make the phone look the way I want it to.....
I have to admit I still play around with my note 8 especially after the pie update looks good
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I cant find any apps that need to have root permissions anymore that are useful to me,and now it seems root just breaks apps because of that stupid safety net check.
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I've been thinking for about 2 years now, since the G925V, it is the way in which we root the device that is the problem. Technically speaking, our actual method of perma-rooting a device is about the same as it was 10 years ago. And since CF stopped working on Samsung Devices, it seems no one else will really. I really think that's the problem, no one ever filled the void left by CF quitting Samsung public dev work.
Is Chainfire's way the only way? Or the only way that's really been developed?
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Hello all,
Starting a thread to see if there is out there in XDA who happened to pick up the Ellipsis 8 yesterday for Black Friday?
I bought my Mom a smartphone finally being she was stuck with old tech and never owned a smart phone so I got her the Sony Xperia Z3v. She is overly excited.
Anyways, they gave us for free Quanta Ellipsis 8 QTAQZ3, and I have attempted the following to get root access;
1) Kingo Root
2) TowelRoot
3) Framaroot 1.9.3
Neither one of these options provided root. Upon digging up threads on XDA, I found that the older Ellipsis 7 was able to get rooted with both Kingo Root and Framaroot.
I am glad we have more interest in this tablet. I would like custom roms, but to at least root it. I actually got three of these yesterday. I have tried almost everything to root as well.
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I am glad we have more interest in this tablet. I would like custom roms, but to at least root it. I actually got three of these yesterday. I have tried almost everything to root as well.
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Yeah I would just like to root it so I can remove all the Verizon bloat that came with it.
Yep I got 2 of them yesterday looking forward to seeing someone figure out how to root them.
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I tried all three listed above as well with no success. I would be eternally greatful for anyone who can help with rooting this device since Verizon was so keen on giving them out like candy on Black Friday.
I picked one up, havent really looked for any methods. Its been a pretty good device thus far.
I think what people need to look for in the software is some bugs like how every other root method works... i know My Verizon requests su when its first run, but anyways, this would probably be the best place to look.
Raiden8816 said:
Yeah I would just like to root it so I can remove all the Verizon bloat that came with it.
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You can get rid of most of the VZW bloat without root, using the app manager.
I would like to see a decent custom AOSP ROM for this thing.
Seems to perform about as well as the original Nexus 7, but the screen isn't as sharp or vivid... the colors are a bit washed out and bland looking, IMHO.
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You can get rid of most of the VZW bloat without root, using the app manager.
I would like to see a decent custom AOSP ROM for this thing.
Seems to perform about as well as the original Nexus 7, but the screen isn't as sharp or vivid... the colors are a bit washed out and bland looking, IMHO.
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Honestly i dont mind. For me its better than my ****ty Tab 4 that i had before it, so it works lol.
The only thing i wish is to gain root to put the nav buttons on the sides when rotated, but we havent obtained root yet.
Also multiwindow would be awesome.
Hopefully Someone Gets It!
I am hoping that one of our amazing Devs here on XDA will figure this out. I want root so I can get the full performance out of Tasker. Plus a few other things like a full debloat and such. I would have no problem making a donation to the Dev who figures this out lol.
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mike253 said:
Honestly i dont mind. For me its better than my ****ty Tab 4 that i had before it, so it works lol.
The only thing i wish is to gain root to put the nav buttons on the sides when rotated, but we havent obtained root yet.
Also multiwindow would be awesome.
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Are you referring to the Galaxy Tabs? If so I 100% feel you. I don't understand how their phones are so gooood (IMO LOL), But they fail so hard on there tablets. Im beyond done with those until they step it up...ALOT lol.
Come on people, no news is not good news. I can't do anymore digging into this until I am off this weekend.
Any updates?
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Any updates?
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Until enough people get this tablet, there won't be any incentive to develop for it...
I think this tab is awful.....I can see why its free ...and to the poster who said you can delete the Verizon bloatware ..u are wrong you can only disable some. no deleting of any system apps including the Amazon apps....We need Root bad.....the stock OS is archaic 4.4.2 and Not to add insult to injury there is no updates anytime soon according to Quanta......
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I think this tab is awful.....I can see why its free ...and to the poster who said you can delete the Verizon bloatware ..u are wrong you can only disable some. no deleting of any system apps including the Amazon apps....We need Root bad.....the stock OS is archaic 4.4.2 and Not to add insult to injury there is no updates anytime soon according to Quanta......
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Well, disabling is as good as deleting. Deleting them saves a small amount of space, a few MB... You have an SD slot, add more storage cheaply...
It is a basic tablet. I would never have bought such a tablet, but for free, what the hell, makes a nice news reader and stuff when lying in bed.
When I want a real tablet I do have a Dell Venue 11 Pro that works really well.
I am going to keep looking and digging all weekend. There has to be a way to get this rooted. I know my brother in law rooted the Ellipsis 7 with Framaroot. But, none of the versions have worked. I know it is due to the newer build of Kitkat. It just takes time for someone to find the exploit.
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I am going to keep looking and digging all weekend. There has to be a way to get this rooted. I know my brother in law rooted the Ellipsis 7 with Framaroot. But, none of the versions have worked. I know it is due to the newer build of Kitkat. It just takes time for someone to find the exploit.
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Unless someone creates an AOSP or faster ROM for this device, I just don't see what Root will actually do for us... I mean, saving 50MB of storage or whatever by removing a few apps that can be disabled without Root, doesn't seem like much incentive to a Dev, you know?
If we could get AOSP with a lean and fast kernel or something, I would be all over that like Richard Simmons on a Cub Scout, but I just don't see that happening...
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Unless someone creates an AOSP or faster ROM for this device, I just don't see what Root will actually do for us... I mean, saving 50MB of storage or whatever by removing a few apps that can be disabled without Root, doesn't seem like much incentive to a Dev, you know?
If we could get AOSP with a lean and fast kernel or something, I would be all over that like Richard Simmons on a Cub Scout, but I just don't see that happening...
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Well the main purpose for me to get root is to use things like ad blockers. Also to use xposed and titanium backup.
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Well the main purpose for me to get root is to use things like ad blockers. Also to use xposed and titanium backup.
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I have not used TI... I never really have anything to backup... I mean my pics and stuff I back up to my PC, everything else is in the cloud... when I get a new phone or hard reset one, install a ROM, etc... My stuff restores from the Play Store so I never really have to do much other than a few tweaks and set up my launcher and home screens the way I want...
Never used ad block either, but I am sure that all the ROMs I have used over the years probably had that built in...
I just wish the tablet was a bit snappier... I think a smaller footprint and a faster kernel in an AOSP ROM would help, but that's probably all you can do for these things....
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I have not used TI... I never really have anything to backup... I mean my pics and stuff I back up to my PC, everything else is in the cloud... when I get a new phone or hard reset one, install a ROM, etc... My stuff restores from the Play Store so I never really have to do much other than a few tweaks and set up my launcher and home screens the way I want...
Never used ad block either, but I am sure that all the ROMs I have used over the years probably had that built in...
I just wish the tablet was a bit snappier... I think a smaller footprint and a faster kernel in an AOSP ROM would help, but that's probably all you can do for these things....
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Well titanium backup does back up your apps and games. But the difference is when you restore them it restores all data (like launcher layout) and settings like levels in games or app preferences. This will also backup and restore stuff you didn't get from the play store. Last time I checked the play store only restores app and not data.
Ad blocking would speed the tablet up a bit online. Also the tweaks you can do after rooting would increase performance greatly.
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Well titanium backup does back up your apps and games. But the difference is when you restore them it restores all data (like launcher layout) and settings like levels in games or app preferences. This will also backup and restore stuff you didn't get from the play store. Last time I checked the play store only restores app and not data.
Ad blocking would speed the tablet up a bit online. Also the tweaks you can do after rooting would increase performance greatly.
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I was about to respond to the other member but you made all the points I had to make haha. I 100% agree. I need root on this thing so I can run TB, Xposed, AD Away, Root Explorer, Debloat FULLY and not just disable, and a plethora of other things root is good for. Bottom line is it doesn't matter what the reason, ALL Android devices are better with root!
root pros: custom roms/kernels, remove bloatware, ad blocking.
root cons: no fingerprint, no android pay. (risk of getting very sensitive information compromised)
IFFFFFFFFFF THAT HOLDS TRUE, [VOTE] whether you will root this phone OR not.
Not rooting so many apps like banking ,tv sports etc don't work on rooted devices
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Android Pay isn't a big deal for me.
I have cards, I use them.
I hope we can find a way to get the fingerprint sensor working.
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Not rooting so many apps like banking ,tv sports etc don't work on rooted devices
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Guess I'm lucky, all mine work. I use Sling, BOA, Fidelity, Directv etc without any issues. No clue if the finger print scanner will work or not but hopefully if it doesn't that will get fixed here.
Android pay is a gimmick. I have a wallet everywhere I go, I see no reason to use my phone besides the "its cool" factor.
Didn't know the finger and android pay wouldn't work if you rooted. Guess i'm NOT rooting until there's a workaround.
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Didn't know the finger and android pay wouldn't work if you rooted. Guess i'm NOT rooting until there's a workaround.
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There won't be any workarounds. Google is not kidding about your biometric data and card information.
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As a side question, might anyone know who the developer of the fingerprint scanner is? Although I've a nigh nihilistic attitude about my privacy today I remember reference to information as I find in this article regarding Apple's AuthenTec's ties to the government. I presume the data will be taken while I hope it's used for good.
To the subject—if rooting breaks the fingerprint scanner I don't think I'll care. Banking on my phone? Nope.
Seeing as nobody actually HAS either the 6P or the 5x yet, we don't know for SURE what will break with root and what will not. Thing is, once you have root access, the whole system is open to you, so fixes and patches are possible. Also I remember reading somewhere that there was a way to "cloak" root from the rest of the system, so apps that check for root, don't find it.
I believe the finger print scanner works rooted, android pay is different though, although people claim they have it working with root!
In the UK I don't care as android pay won't be here anytime soon I'm sure haha
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ambervals6 said:
root pros: custom roms/kernels, remove bloatware, ad blocking.
root cons: no fingerprint, no android pay.
keeping that in mind, vote whether you will root this phone or not.
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Where did you see the finger print scanner wouldn't work? I'm pretty sure I read an article stating that it would. I'm bummed about Android pay, but I can live without out.
Root pro with xposed and root clock works for banking apps
Why wouldn't fingerprint scanner not work? This might be different but on the rooted Sprint note 5 it worked fine. Never had a problem with Wells Fargo banking on a rooted device. I'm for rooting.
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well if fingerprint feature is not working then i guess i will just be on stock rom till there are fixes. i really need to root for the freedom for my device =P
Paying with my phone has zero allure for me...there are very few situations where I have my phone but not a credit card and the 0.5 seconds the phone saves means nothing to me. In fact I watched I guy have to tap his iPhone on the pay scanner at least 10 times yesterday at a deli in Manhattan before it took.
The fingerprint scanner...might be a convenience but I don't see all the rooting benefits out weighing not punching in a pin code or pattern on the lock screen.
I would be really surprised if fingerprint scanner did not work on a rooted device. Now AOSP, CM ROMS could be a different story, over on the One Plus 2 forum, you could root the device and use fingerprint scanner. They couldn't on AOSP as they did not have the binaries available to make it work.
Factory images + rooted, should still allow fingerprint access.
Does Android Pay work with an unlocked bootloader, no root?
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I moved to a Nexus for easy rooting. I'll be rooted day 1.
I chose not rooting. I started with a Galaxy S variant and android 2.1 many years ago. Back in those days, I rooted and installed custom recovery. It was necessary, because I had to remove carrier and manufacturer bloatware, run special kernel to apply a lag fix, flash leaks onto my device because official updates were not coming, etc. Using these feature made my phone much more usable, and rooting made a lot of sense.
Those days are long gone now, and with a stock ROM on Nexus 5, I have been pretty much satisfied with my phone since Lollipop came out. Sure I rooted my Nexus at first too, but over time I realized that none of the advanced features were all that important to me. Rooting prevented me from getting OTA updates, and the lack of android pay was the last straw. I unrooted my Nexus 5, and will likely not root the Nexus 6P unless there is some show stopper bug or annoyance that rooting will help me with. Otherwise I will be content to use the phone stock.
It's a Nexus thought it was the law to root and have fun
I think we're all flashaholics on here, that's why we get a Nexus and root/tinker etc. In terms of practical usage, the need to root and install custom Roms these days is virtually zero. Also, the things that don't work when rooted like banking apps, some video services and pay services means it's becoming less attractive.
nexus devices were and still are intended to be used for development. Disabling features because of root doesn't sound like something that google would do, but then again since lollipop their security has been a bit more strict. so unless something is put out publicly we'll just have to wait and see.
I for one will be rooting day one when I get my phone.
If it is disabled, hopefully there will be a work around put out pretty quickly, like a root cloak or something.
With the tmobile variant having pulled the fastboot codes (**** move) its obvious we may never see a root method (that is publicly shared anyway. ?)
Current v30 users. Do you miss root? If not, why? I've always had rooted devices but this will be tough to have a stock unchangeable device. (I can't afford to buy the unlocked version at once)
I definitely miss root, but my wife has the OnePlus 3T and messing with her phone scratches that itch for me. If the V30 gets root great, if not oh well.
I don't currently have v30 and really want root back on my daily. I have a few older phones with root that does the tasks I want root for. And the V30+ coming to T-Mobile, with the ability to remove bloat with adb, I may go with it.
I have the v20 on tmobile rooted and unlocked but I feel like my wife is going to get me an upgrade as she keeps asking me about if I like it.
Haven't missed root in years.
To be honest, no.
The only thing I wanted is bootloader unlock and ROM support later on.
That's just so it prolong the life of the device. But when it's still relatively new, no it doesn't matter. Since we can use package Disabler to disable unwanted stock apps anyways.
I have yet to buy a V30 but having root isn't going to stop me from purchasing one. I am used to rooting my devices, having Nexus devices for years. I usually keep the phone close to stock though, just removing bloatware, Google garbage, modifying the HOSTS file to block ads, and backing up my SMS/MMS. Disabling apps doesn't free up space but it does effectively produce the same effect as removing them through root. The V30 is also theme friendly and there are plenty of themes out there to choose from. Most browsers offer fairly decent ad blocking but that won't work for apps that pull ads where editing the HOSTS file usually does the trick. In the end, that will make me more picky about the apps I use and to look for premium ad-free versions. Backing up texts isn't a huge deal breaker for me. I prefer the ability to but it isn't a must-have feature. All of that said... I will miss root but it isn't absolutely necessary, at least for me.
Seems like its getting more difficult to get root on newer phones....I guess next will be phasing out all custom ROM's.... :crying:
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I have yet to buy a V30 but having root isn't going to stop me from purchasing one. I am used to rooting my devices, having Nexus devices for years. I usually keep the phone close to stock though, just removing bloatware, Google garbage, modifying the HOSTS file to block ads, and backing up my SMS/MMS. Disabling apps doesn't free up space but it does effectively produce the same effect as removing them through root. The V30 is also theme friendly and there are plenty of themes out there to choose from. Most browsers offer fairly decent ad blocking but that won't work for apps that pull ads where editing the HOSTS file usually does the trick. In the end, that will make me more picky about the apps I use and to look for premium ad-free versions. Backing up texts isn't a huge deal breaker for me. I prefer the ability to but it isn't a must-have feature. All of that said... I will miss root but it isn't absolutely necessary, at least for me.
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Without root u can remove any app using ADB. But disabling is easier with lg package disabler. Apps and browser ad blocker use something like adguard, dns66, blokada work just has good like adaway root. personally i use blokada since it does not drain any battery unlike adguard.
Battery life and ad blocking was the biggest peeves for root with me. Any snags with this?
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Battery life and ad blocking was the biggest peeves for root with me. Any snags with this?
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Like i said in las post
For adblocking. Use blokada, dns66,
I use blockada and it works just like adaway. Doesnt drain battery.ake everything much faster (apps and browser) since theres no ads.
For battery
Do the disabling package from my guide using lg package disable.
Also what will work very well is NAPTIME. You will need adb and use the commands require for the apps to get permission and work.
I used to love to root my devices but I really don't feel the itch on the V30. Then again the last time I rooted was to put a ROM on my Note 3. Touchwiz and all the bloatware really slowed that device down. Android has come a long way since then I think.
Only things I'd miss are titanium backup and control of the governor/frequencies/ etc.
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Edit: Thanks person above, Blockada saved me from the torture of using Zedge with ads!
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Like i said in las post
For adblocking. Use blokada, dns66,
I use blockada and it works just like adaway. Doesnt drain battery.ake everything much faster (apps and browser) since theres no ads.
For battery
Do the disabling package from my guide using lg package disable.
Also what will work very well is NAPTIME. You will need adb and use the commands require for the apps to get permission and work.
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Can you post a link to you guide for the package disabler please?
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jeffloan said:
Can you post a link to you guide for the package disabler please?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/guide-make-v30-faster-smoother-t3693083
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/guide-make-v30-faster-smoother-t3693083
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Thank You
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I think I sold. I'm going to miss root but I really don't need it anymore. I usually buy my apps now so I don't need to crack license verification and I have youtube red. Plus Samsung browser with unicorn seems to work for my ad problem... And blockada does wonders for non browser ad blocking. Also with oreo having substratum built in is another reason for root gone (oreo hopefully coming soon) I'll probably get the v30+ on tmobile
I miss it but quite frankly I am quite happy with this phone. I love using Android Pay (I know, I know Magisk) but even the best ROMs always have a bug or two. We have a 2 year warranty. I suspect if I truly miss it...an Exynos Galaxy will be my next phone. But for now...im quite happy with a Stock V30.
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I miss it but quite frankly I am quite happy with this phone. I love using Android Pay (I know, I know Magisk) but even the best ROMs always have a bug or two. We have a 2 year warranty. I suspect if I truly miss it...an Exynos Galaxy will be my next phone. But for now...im quite happy with a Stock V30.
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If you truly miss it, why would Exynos Samsung Galaxy be your next phone... And not LG open market version which easily has root?
The open market version of LG phones is the equivalent of Samsung flagship Exynos phones, for bootloader unlock and root.
Just buy the LG V30 which CAN be rooted, no need to buy another brand phone.
It's not that LG phones can't be rooted. You just to buy the right ones.
ChazzMatt said:
If you truly miss it, why would Exynos Galaxy be your next phone... And not LG open market version which easily has root?
The open market version of LG phones is the equivalent of Samsung flagship Exynos phones, for bootloader unlock and root.
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Well I was rambling... Hoping to keep the V30 for a while!
only reason I miss root is to have a full black theme for the screen.
So usually the first thing I do with all of my phones, is install a custom ROM ( and root obviously ). The newer the phones get the less reasons I find to void warranty and root it. Can someone give me a few good reasons to root my S9 plus, or tell me the reasons as to why you did it.
Thanks, Andrew.
Necessity to root, install ROMs has become less compared to earlier days with latest smartphones. But I flashed a custom ROM ( Resurrection Remix using TWRP) on the G-965F recently to stay away from samsung services and to get out of midrocre batterytime of the stock Firmware. Performance is out of the world and batterytime is solidly extended with it. Camera portrait mode doesn't work with Google hdr+ camera yet and that's a trade off should work in future.
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Necessity to root, install ROMs has become less compared to earlier days with latest smartphones. But I flashed a custom ROM ( Resurrection Remix using TWRP) on the G-965F recently to stay away from samsung services and to get out of midrocre batterytime of the stock Firmware. Performance is out of the world and batterytime is solidly extended with it. Camera portrait mode doesn't work with Google hdr+ camera yet and that's a trade off should work in future.
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That's the reasons I like also, I've always had loads better battery.
I bummed up, and let my phone reboot after OEM unlock, and now its disappeared for 7 more days again
I rooted all my phones for years, haven't felt the need on the S9+. Package Disabler Pro did everything I needed, and battery life is great (I did a 13 hours shift yesterday with lots of Facebook, photos, video recording, all on intermittent signal on both mobile and wifi, and battery went from 98% at 7am to 58% by 7.30pm.
I really don't know how you'd get much better life, other than a Mate 10 Pro, but they have their own issues...
HellDiverUK said:
I rooted all my phones for years, haven't felt the need on the S9+. Package Disabler Pro did everything I needed, and battery life is great (I did a 13 hours shift yesterday with lots of Facebook, photos, video recording, all on intermittent signal on both mobile and wifi, and battery went from 98% at 7am to 58% by 7.30pm.
I really don't know how you'd get much better life, other than a Mate 10 Pro, but they have their own issues...
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I have noticed that battery life seems to be a hit and miss for people, some get really good, some get really bad.
Mine is mediocre, I feel like it could be better but it's not the worst in the world.
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That's the reasons I like also, I've always had loads better battery.
I bummed up, and let my phone reboot after OEM unlock, and now its disappeared for 7 more days again
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Be careful next time mate.
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Be careful next time mate.
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Yeah I tried to the first time, ah well these things happen haha.
rooting is a little more than just battery life, things like titanium backup still needs root, and if one decides to remove 'bloatware' (i.e. apps that one don't use) be it that they are sometimes nuisance with all the auto updates unwanted notifications, root is still needed
I rooted my galaxy s9 plus for various reasons. First to greatly enhance the audio by viper4android, and with dolby atmos also on at the same time it completely redefines the sound coming from it. Another reason for me was to use L speed, i have to say it actually makes a difference in performance and battery but not that much. And the third reason is to use substratum, i just love it.
So after all of this you think I am trying to convince you to root, but I don't actually recommend rooting this device specifically. Why? I really don't see the need of rooting it. It has everything that I wanted, but because of my childish brain I couldn't control myself so I went ahead and root it. After all, don't root it.
Debloating stuff which improves battery and performance, and a lot of other tweaks. As for me I use it with my ps4 controller using an app requiring me to root. Now I have my own retro console
This is my first phone I have used that includes NFC payment. So I have started to really enjoy the Samsung Pay feature. Are there anyways of still using this after rooting the phone?
Also can someone give a list of things to disable with 'Service Disabler'? I think Package Disabler Pro has been removed from the play store so I can't get it anymore
After having had a lot of Phones where I felt the need to root them, I can agree on what some others said before me, and that is that the S9+ is the first Phone I haven't felt the need for rooting it. It has basically everything I want that root could give me before, the only thing I am yet wanting is Viper4Android and TitaniumBackup, but there is Samsung Cloud for backup (it even works for gamesaves), and then the built in Equalizer is really good compared to any other from other OEM's. There are however downsides from rooting it, like not being able to use Samsung Pay for example, or Google Pay, or (if you're a fan of it, I dislike the game but whatever) Pokémon GO. Basically any app that uses SafetyNet will stop working (Magisk isn't 100% safe either and can fail). As Samsung gives me the option to theme my Phone to dark like I used to do with Root, and overclock it for Games using the GameTuner, and other things I did with root, I see no reason to really root my S9+ for now, maybe when it reaches it's EOL but currently it is better not to root it.
for me s9 plus need to be rooted, it depends what you use the root for
rom, kernal, games, backup, full control of your system
my head into stuff like this
for normal user i doubt it they even know what root can do
i rooted all my phones before the s9 plus this one waiting for it to be rooted
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Necessity to root, install ROMs has become less compared to earlier days with latest smartphones. But I flashed a custom ROM ( Resurrection Remix using TWRP) on the G-965F recently to stay away from samsung services and to get out of midrocre batterytime of the stock Firmware. Performance is out of the world and batterytime is solidly extended with it. Camera portrait mode doesn't work with Google hdr+ camera yet and that's a trade off should work in future.
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is it possible to install ressurection remix without root. or. to be clear. have banking apps, netflix and everything working? with the mi mix 2. this never was an issue when i installed a custom rom (xiaomi.eu rom)
MadSilence said:
is it possible to install ressurection remix without root. or. to be clear. have banking apps, netflix and everything working? with the mi mix 2. this never was an issue when i installed a custom rom (xiaomi.eu rom)
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Ironically, you need to have magisk to get those apps to work. If you have magisk, you can change your device fingerprint using a modue called magisk hide props.
Will This Interfere With My Cell Phone Plan
The only reason I am hesitant to root my Galaxy S9 , is that I'm not sure of all of the negative impacts of rooting. here is my question. If I root my phone will i get to keep my cell phone plan? and will i be able to trade in my phone in the future?
I've had a lot of phones, all of them was rooted, even my S7, but the S9+ is my first that I haven't felt the need to root or anything else.
It's just a great phone.
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The only reason I am hesitant to root my Galaxy S9 , is that I'm not sure of all of the negative impacts of rooting. here is my question. If I root my phone will i get to keep my cell phone plan? and will i be able to trade in my phone in the future?
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You will keep your cell phone plan as that's based on the Sim card. And trade in depends on region I think. But factory reset with original recovery and everything should mean you can trade in unless your telecom company doesn't like it
So I been a long time Android user and all my devices had always been rooted. Recently I been having this dilemma that with how hard is getting to root devices like huawei or some other devices and with the issue of warranty, also the fact that almost every custom ROM has Bugs and issues some minors some a bit more concerning like cameras not working reboots etc. I tried many different ROMs before with my other devices and honestly they all had issues sometimes even worse then the original ROM constants flashing for the fixes and factory resets etc. Even with custom kernels and stock ROMs with stock kernels rooting wasn't making real sense. To be able to modify my kernel settings for what 20 minutes more of sot with lag or reboots, oc for what reason to have my phone over heat? To erase bloatware? I can disable them and through adb with our rooting. Before it made sense because Android was a young os and many things need root to be applied but now Im not sure . Do the benefits supersede the cost and time?
So my question is: does it really makes sense to root Android at this point ?
I agree, every android phone I had was rooted the day it came out of the box. Since I have a Huawei device, for me there is no more reason for rooting. Also the trouble isn't worth the risk anymore. No big benefits.
The main reason for me is adaway and lucky patcher but the time I'm spending to read posts on xda is really big because I'm scared to brake anything I would only recommend it if it's fun to you to play around with this kind of stuff and you are willing to spend time and risk your phone probably
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The main reason for me is adaway and lucky patcher but the time I'm spending to read posts on xda is really big because I'm scared to brake anything I would only recommend it if it's fun to you to play around with this kind of stuff and you are willing to spend time and risk your phone probably
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I agree with you, I would spend so much time before reading and making sure that I wasn't going to hardbrick my device that it is very hard to keep doing it, I already hardbrick another huawei phone and it basically was left useless, after everything went fine with rooting and custom kernel it turn on boot normally then all of a sudden it didn't turn back on , only on fastboot mode, never found a way to recover it. Like you said if you have a spare device it's cool I even use to cook my own ROMs and cherry pick things I liked from source code but that was with devices like the htc m8 which was alot more developer friendly.
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The main reason for me is adaway and lucky patcher but the time I'm spending to read posts on xda is really big because I'm scared to brake anything I would only recommend it if it's fun to you to play around with this kind of stuff and you are willing to spend time and risk your phone probably
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For adds I use virtual hosts app. No root needed, just the app and a hosts file on your sd card.
Sent from my HUAWEI ALP-L29 using XDA Labs
there is literally no other logic to root your device in modern times other than to get viper 4 android or james dsp.
in olden days i used to root ....to get full screen usage on device by hiding navigation bar ...like immersive mode etc....but now they have gesture navigation .....
. stock headphones audio controls/quality on each and every phone is "****" as compared to V4A .... and this thing this issue of inferiority will always remain...
custom roms are buggy....i have nevver ever come across a single custom rom in the past 7 years .... which didn't have bugs..... no matter how stable they claim it is/was .
coming towards huawei....at least they updated these kirin970 devices much much earlier than samsung phone flagship ones.... which released after..... these mates and honors ....
greatgrandking said:
there is literally no other logic to root your device in modern times other than to get viper 4 android or james dsp.
in olden days i used to root ....to get full screen usage on device by hiding navigation bar ...like immersive mode etc....but now they have gesture navigation .....
. stock headphones audio controls/quality on each and every phone is "****" as compared to V4A .... and this thing this issue of inferiority will always remain...
custom roms are buggy....i have nevver ever come across a single custom rom in the past 7 years .... which didn't have bugs..... no matter how stable they claim it is/was .
coming towards huawei....at least they updated these kirin970 devices much much earlier than samsung phone flagship ones.... which released after..... these mates and honors ....
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I totally agree, I have never ever come across a custom ROMs that isn't buggy they all have bugs and there's always something that you have to lose in terms of stock functionality in order to make them work. I'm really digging huawei devices even tho they have taken that Stand on the bootloader .
Almost all new browsers have ad block included so ads don't bother me in my use of the device. I had OP6 b4 and it was rooted and I personally can't see any difference in day2day use between rooted and non rooted device.
just wish there was an easy way to put the phone in airplane mode without root
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Almost all new browsers have ad block included so ads don't bother me in my use of the device. I had OP6 b4 and it was rooted and I personally can't see any difference in day2day use between rooted and non rooted device.
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I personally use brave browser which is a great super fast browser and it has tons of ad blocking option as well as sync between pc and the phone and it's not resource hungry like chrome. It's a great browser i really haven't found any good reason for rooting this mate 10 pro. Besides reading so many people bricking the **** out of this phone is just not worth my time.
Another thing: Ability to clock down CPU to save battery.
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Another thing: Ability to clock down CPU to save battery.
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Yeah that's a must on a 9-10h SoT phone