V30 for current V20 user? - LG V30 Questions & Answers

Bummed about the loss of 2nd screen but the rest looks appealing. Did anyone else upgrade from a V20? What's your opinion?
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mustafu said:
Bummed about the loss of 2nd screen but the rest looks appealing. Did anyone else upgrade from a V20? What's your opinion?
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Don't mind it at all. Was really just a gimmick to me though that I really didn't use.

I upgraded. Only two things that I kinda miss about the "2nd screen" is that it if I caught incoming messages as they came in, I could see who it was without opening the phone. The number of times that usually happened was low though. Most of the time I had to have some sort of watch on that buzzed me and I just peeked at that. Which is what I do now with the V30. The other thing I miss is having the mode switcher while in camera. Majority of the time I'm in manual stills anyway so I just made a shortcut icon for that in the static icons in my launcher. Other than that, using the AOD and floating bar I haven't really noticed it missing.

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Don't mind it at all. Was really just a gimmick to me though that I really didn't use.
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I upgraded from the V20 just 2 days ago and so far I'm LOVING my V30. I got my V20 after Samsung's Note7 disaster. I didn't want to downgrade to an S7 Edge, but the V20 still seemed like it was forced onto me. I liked the phone, but it was no Note7.
I will admit that the lack of Second Screen takes a bit of time to get used to if you integrated it into your daily usage patterns., but you probably won't miss it on the V30. The V30's Always On Display has a special "swipe bar" that has all the shortcuts that the V20's second screen had when the main screen was turned off (shortcuts like the wifi, bluetooth, camera, sound profile, etc toggles + music controller + shows icons for new texts, missed calls, etc). So that part is definitely similar and you most likely won't miss the Second Screen for that. The part that needs a little time to adjust to is the app shortcuts bar that appeared when the main screen was on. You will need to get used to the fact that all that info isn't in your face anymore, but will instead be on the hidden Floating Bar instead. You'll get used to it quickly though.
Admittedly, I don't use the Floating Bar on the V30. Too intrusive for me even though it's hidden. I just don't like that little half circle button on the edge of the screen. I instead use an app called Meteor Swipe, which adds a hidden swipe zone to the side of the screen (completely configurable from width, length, location, and left/right). When swiped out, you get app drawers (as many as you want) that contain as many apps as you want. It kind of mimics the S8 and Note8's side app drawer thingy. I used this on my V20 too since I really missed the side app drawers from my Note7.
I HIGHLY recommend upgrading if you want superb battery life compared to the V20's. This is why I actually upgraded. I'm a light user, with my phone mostly in my pocket all day, but about 1-2 hours of SOT. The V20 was needing a quick +30% charge to get me through the day (5am to 10pm). The V30 is lasting me all day with battery saver on (Set to Extended with only Restrict Background Data enabled and a few apps set to be excluded; Max brightness set to 100% in Battery Saver too, but auto-brightness is enabled) and some ATT and LG bloatware disabled. Yesterday (day off from work), I was using my phone from 9am to midnight and ended the day at roughly 85% with no charges and about 2 hours of SOT. I basically had my phone in my pocket all day, light texting, 2 short phone calls, and ended the night watching Youtube until I fell asleep. I fell asleep with my phone in my bed and woke up with only about 2% drain over night. Your battery life may vary obviously, and I'm only going off of memory, but DANG the battery life was remarkable!
EDIT: I should also note that even with Battery Saver on, I have yet to experience any lag or slow down. This phone is just super fast!
In short, you lose the V20's Second Screen, but gain so much more and keep several features of the V20 one way or another.
You gain:
-Faster CPU
-MUCH better battery life
-water proofing
-wireless charging (if you're into that... I personally could care less)
-battery saving tools not present on the V20's software
-lighter weight
-OLED screen that is really stunning (and saves battery over the V20's LCD display)
-And some other things I'm sure that I can't think of at the moment. The above mentioned were things I considered when deciding whether to upgrade or not.
You get to keep:
-The impressive DAC
-Main screen on Second Screen features are on the Floating Bar instead. Still there, but implemented differently.
-Main screen off Second Screen features are on the Always On Display instead. Again, still there, but different implementation.
-Impressive camera with all the manual settings... if you know how to use them... which I don't... soooooo....
Really, the only thing you lose is the toughness of the V20, but from what I've seen on Youtube drop tests, the V30 is still pretty strong.
EDIT: Oh, I should also mention that if you purchased themes for the V20 via the Google Play Store, they won't work on the V30 since it uses a different Home version than the V20. I was a bit disappointed by this at first since I love to theme my phones. The good news is that the same guys who made the V20 themes are working with the V30 now. Themes are currently scarce (at the time of writing this), but will populate the Play Store over the next several months.
Over all, I do recommend the V30 over the V20. Don't let the lack of Second Screen be a deciding factor for you.

Picked up mine yesterday. I was going back and forth over the S8+ and the V30. And really, they are pound for pound nearly identical, even with the 6 month head start that the Sammy had. You might give up some creative photo control if you go S8, but you get a much better selfie camera, but that's all personal preferences for that stuff. I got used to using the fingerprint unlock recently, and the location on the V30 is really what sealed it. Well that, and the S8 just reminds me of the S6 edge I had, and it just felt like nothing I hadn't already had or seen before. I was pleasantly surprised at the smaller physical size of the 30 vs the 20 though. So far, I've only had a couple things that irk me, and I think that's more app-based than phone-based. Overall though, I do like the phone quite a bit. Only been a day though, so who knows!

I got the V30+ just two days ago and I am in love with it already. I miss the second screen but I think it's not a big deal, since the V30 gives many more improvements over V20.

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I only have 8 days left, tell me why I should keep the G3?

Everything I like about the phone is irrelevant. I like it a lot but there are a lot of things I don't like Convince me why the things I hate about it don't matter much?
Screen auto brightness keeps it way too dim in a dark room.
Over sharpening text on certain webpages (Certain text on a light colored backgrounds looks awful until you zoom way in, basically unuseable sites).
On screen buttons mean less screen real estate (screenshot).
Need the ability to hide home row buttons on ALL screens (system apps too).
Knock off doesn't work on Google Now Launcher. (thanks to nfuNk user I discovered this still works if you double-tap the notifications bar, but not a real solution.)
Google Play Services using tons of battery life (no longer the case after first day... problem solved because LG appears to fake battery usage).
Way too much space used by toggles and sliders in notifications drop down. Killing volume slider was a must just to make it usable for other notifications.
Charging port is hard to plug into even with included cable and feels like it's going to bust sometimes. You have to slide in from the top. Very un-inotive.
My MHL adapter won't plug in at all and I found out it's because LG uses Slimport to do HDMI. What was wrong with MHL?
Many 3rd party apps I've installed that I know support multi-window don't show up as an option to use them in multi-window.
Need the ability to change default options for QuickMemo and Voice shortcut when you swipe up from Home button.
Capturing screenshot has no delete or edit in notification panel, Just a share option, better than nothing.
Whites don't look as bright as my GS4, there is even kind of a greyish/pinkish hue to them.
Black don't look black as they do on the Galaxy S4. They are gery instead of black.
Voicemail integration for google voice doesn't work seamlessly with built in voicemail. (see screenshot)
Reverse the order of recent apps (most recent should be at bottom right).
Last.fm isn't scrobbling when listening via Google Play music. Worked on my previous GS4. (edit: fixed by setting Google Play as default music player)
Date naming for the camera filenames is awful. "0911141023.jpg" should be something like 201409111023.jpg for better file sorting.
SwiftKey types but nothing shows up on some web page text boxes until I zoom in/out or scroll the screen around. Happened on my GS4 too but not nearly as often
More than one caller has complained it sounds like I'm cutting out or mumbling when talking.
DashClock takes two touches after returning to home screen to launch some of the associated extension apps (didn't happen on GS4).
Notification LED isn't nearly bright enough and doesn't flash often enough.
Not reading my SD card correctly and randomly deleted a bunch of files (managed to get it working for now despite having to recopy files from a backup, still problems with renaming/moving files)
H/W+ decoder in MX Player resulted in many scenes being very pixelated. Not the case for some video on my GS4.
In the battery stats, when you click on a listed program it doesn't give you the data usage in megabytes or gigabytes for that program. GS4 and stock Android does.
Clip tray doesn't work in large text input fields on webpages.
IR doesn't seem as powerful as GS4. It worked fine on a Sony TV on my GS4, it was finicky on the LG G3.
No ability to add more than 5 default room profiles in the QuickRemote. Lame.
Ten tries at knock code is way too many. Needs to lock you out after 3 or 4 attempts. Often doesn't even recognize a wrong knock code as incorrect.
WiFi is less than stellar (see screenshot)
Just my complaints. Absolutely no pro's are included. I really want to keep this phone because there is a lot about it that I like but much of the cons are making me rethin it. Why aren't their more companies offering good batteries, NFC/Qi backs, etc.?
On number 29, I believe after ten it wipes your phone not lock you out. So ten might be a good idea.
On your overall list I don't see anything that is a big deal except maybe the display seems to bother you quite a bit. All the rest of the stuff are just the usual annoyances. Might not see the exact same issues on another phone but there will be just as many.
That said if the display really bothers you a lot you should return it.
Oh yay, a "convince me" thread. Show some sack, and make your own decisions. If there are things you don't like, only you can decide if you can live with them. How is anyone supposed to convince you?
If you don't like stock screen brightness use Lux.
You can use any other Launcher that supports Gestures and set up Knock Off with that without any issues.
You can try changing your DPI to gain more screen real estate.
You can use Flex Multi Window app to add whatever apps you want to the Multi Window.
You can change your LED for notifications with various apps and mods.
My WiFi works far better than it did on my S4 so not sure why yours isn't?
I think most of your dislikes could be fixed without getting a new phone. Every phone will have it's list of " annoying things " I think the G3 is a great phone myself even without a custom recovery and Roms. Although I'm excited to get that going as well
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LaTropa64 said:
Everything I like about the phone is irrelevant. I like it a lot but there are a lot of things I don't like Convince me why the things I hate about it don't matter much?
Screen auto brightness keeps it way too dim in a dark room.
Over sharpening text on certain webpages (Certain text on a light colored backgrounds looks awful until you zoom way in, basically unuseable sites).
On screen buttons mean less screen real estate (screenshot).
Need the ability to hide home row buttons on ALL screens (system apps too).
Knock off doesn't work on Google Now Launcher. (thanks to nfuNk user I discovered this still works if you double-tap the notifications bar, but not a real solution.)
Google Play Services using tons of battery life (no longer the case after first day... problem solved because LG appears to fake battery usage).
Way too much space used by toggles and sliders in notifications drop down. Killing volume slider was a must just to make it usable for other notifications.
Charging port is hard to plug into even with included cable and feels like it's going to bust sometimes. You have to slide in from the top. Very un-inotive.
My MHL adapter won't plug in at all and I found out it's because LG uses Slimport to do HDMI. What was wrong with MHL?
Many 3rd party apps I've installed that I know support multi-window don't show up as an option to use them in multi-window.
Need the ability to change default options for QuickMemo and Voice shortcut when you swipe up from Home button.
Capturing screenshot has no delete or edit in notification panel, Just a share option, better than nothing.
Whites don't look as bright as my GS4, there is even kind of a greyish/pinkish hue to them.
Black don't look black as they do on the Galaxy S4. They are gery instead of black.
Voicemail integration for google voice doesn't work seamlessly with built in voicemail. (see screenshot)
Reverse the order of recent apps (most recent should be at bottom right).
Last.fm isn't scrobbling when listening via Google Play music. Worked on my previous GS4. (edit: fixed by setting Google Play as default music player)
Date naming for the camera filenames is awful. "0911141023.jpg" should be something like 201409111023.jpg for better file sorting.
SwiftKey types but nothing shows up on some web page text boxes until I zoom in/out or scroll the screen around. Happened on my GS4 too but not nearly as often
More than one caller has complained it sounds like I'm cutting out or mumbling when talking.
DashClock takes two touches after returning to home screen to launch some of the associated extension apps (didn't happen on GS4).
Notification LED isn't nearly bright enough and doesn't flash often enough.
Not reading my SD card correctly and randomly deleted a bunch of files (managed to get it working for now despite having to recopy files from a backup, still problems with renaming/moving files)
H/W+ decoder in MX Player resulted in many scenes being very pixelated. Not the case for some video on my GS4.
In the battery stats, when you click on a listed program it doesn't give you the data usage in megabytes or gigabytes for that program. GS4 and stock Android does.
Clip tray doesn't work in large text input fields on webpages.
IR doesn't seem as powerful as GS4. It worked fine on a Sony TV on my GS4, it was finicky on the LG G3.
No ability to add more than 5 default room profiles in the QuickRemote. Lame.
Ten tries at knock code is way too many. Needs to lock you out after 3 or 4 attempts. Often doesn't even recognize a wrong knock code as incorrect.
WiFi is less than stellar (see screenshot)
Just my complaints. Absolutely no pro's are included. I really want to keep this phone because there is a lot about it that I like but much of the cons are making me rethin it. Why aren't their more companies offering good batteries, NFC/Qi backs, etc.?
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I've got until next Thursday to return mine. All of my problems deal in the LGDroid software. If the phone's bootloader is unlocked I will be happier than a hound dog eating steak.
There's an app for that Lux
I haven't noticed this.
I can't live without onscreen nav buttons. There's an app for that: Ultimate Dynamic Navbar
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Root and install XPosed. You can turn screen off with 2 taps to notification bar (top of screen).
May have been caused by installing all your apps.
I agree. I disabled the volume and brightness slider. I like the AOSP experience here.
Me too. And I have about 3 USB cables that won't charge the phone.
No experience here
There's an app for that, or root and modify a system file to fix.
I agree. You can root and install XPosed framework with G3 app to modify those shortcuts.
Isn't there only the share option in AOSP?
No experience here
No experience here
It worked for me, but after the Hangouts update I look at voicemail in Hangouts.
Yup.
No experience here
Yup. I've switched to Google Camera for my picture taking.
No experience here
No problems here.
No experience here
Yup. There's an app for that: Light Manager
No problems here.
No experience here
That would be nice.
I hate the clip tray.
IR is not powerful. I have to point my phone directly at the devices' sensor I want to control.
Lame.
Me, my phone has no lock screen security
Works for me.
spotmark said:
Oh yay, a "convince me" thread. Show some sack, and make your own decisions. If there are things you don't like, only you can decide if you can live with them. How is anyone supposed to convince you?
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Just because there are many things I don't like about the phone doesn't mean I won't keep it.
I'll buy it for a dollar.
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LaTropa64 said:
Just because there are many things I don't like about the phone doesn't mean I won't keep it.
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I didn't say you weren't going to keep it. I simply stated that you're the one who has to live with or without it, so how is anyone supposed to convince you, one way, or the other?
spotmark said:
I didn't say you weren't going to keep it. I simply stated that you're the one who has to live with/without it, so how is anyone supposed to convince you, one way, or the other?
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Fair enough. But I'm use to having spare batteries that are as good as the original for $26 and come with a travel size wall charger. I don't think I'm going to get that with the G3.
LaTropa64 said:
Fair enough. But I'm use to having spare batteries that are as goid as the original for $26 and come with a travel size wall chalger. I don't think I'm going to get that with the G3.
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On Amazon now you can get an OEM Battery for $30 or you can get the Caseology or Trendon 2 Battery + AC/USB Charger for about $30 as well.
Those ones people are saying are about 90% of what the OEM one is I guess.
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Mistertac said:
On Amazon now you can get an OEM Battery for $30 or you can get the Caseology or Trendon 2 Battery + AC/USB Charger for about $30 as well.
Those ones people are saying are about 90% of what the OEM one is I guess.
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Links please? All the batteries I see on Amazon that have supposed good reviews are stuffed with fake reviews that turned out to be junk when I researched them elsewhere.
I know a lot of Anker batteries aren't all that great but their warranty is fantastic and I have first hand experience with that. It's the reason I have 3 reasonably well working batteries and two compact wall chargers that work more than well enough for traveling for a measly $26 for my GS4. That option doesn't even exist for the G3.
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Links please? All the batteries I see on Amazon that have supposed good reviews are stuffed with fake reviews that turned out to be junk when I researched them elsewhere.
I know a lot of Anker batteries aren't all that great but their warranty is fantastic and I have first hand experience with that. It's the reason I have 3 reasonably well working batteries and two compact wall chargers that work more than well enough for traveling for a measly $26 for my GS4. That option doesn't even exist for the G3.
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Well a friend of mine has the Caseology ones that he ordered right from Amazon. I'll look for the link but it's the ones with 2 Batteries and a Charger.
And I've spoken to a few here on XDA that got the OEM LG Battery off there as well and they've said that Battery is just the same same as the one that came with the phone, even though the writing on the Battery differs a little from the stock one... Same Battery and it's made in LG factory I guess.
I'm with you though.. I miss having my Anker Battery I had for my S4. That Battery was awesome.
LG and the other companies haven't made it easy to get a good spare at all.
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I got a trendon battery for 15 works just as good as LG battery.
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mayfield103 said:
I got a trendon battery for 15 works just as good as LG battery.
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And with root you can use xposed gel settings module to fix the knock on issue an the g3 tweaks module to fix every other thing I missed from my nexus 5 I got tired of reading after the first few issues but for me this is an awesome phone an I'm keeping it at least till the next nexus comes out
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Love the huge screen an the camera is true delight to use
Thanks everyone for all the tips on various apps and ways to fix some of the things that are bothering me. If I keep this phone (and I probably will) I'll look into rooting so that i can do a lot of the xposed stuff.
Root it and just about all your complaining will go away even the on screen buttons
on #1: maybe you are wrong about what is way too dim. when you are in a dark environment with the fone beeing pretty much the only light source you should keep it as dim as possible. give your eyes like half a minute to adapt to it. otherwise you possibly damage the low light reception of your eyes in the long run.
You already made your choice since you list 30 problems.
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d0n s4sh said:
on #1: maybe you are wrong about what is way too dim. when you are in a dark environment with the fone beeing pretty much the only light source you should keep it as dim as possible. give your eyes like half a minute to adapt to it. otherwise you possibly damage the low light reception of your eyes in the long run.
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That might be true. Maybe my old phone was just way too bright and needlessly killing battery since I can see this one just fine. It's just a shock and something I noticed right away.
ericzhf said:
You already made your choice since you list 30 problems.
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Not at all. I only listed the negatives. There are plenty of positives about this phone and that's why I needed to point out everything I don't like about it to try and convince myself to save $599. I want to keep it, but not if there is something out there as compact with as big of a screen as this. I'm afraid I won't find it so I'll be "stuck" with this G3.
I'm test driving a iPhone through T-Mobile right now and I absolutely hate everything about it except the fingerprint scanner. It's amazing. I hope LG can copy that tech into the G4 as a back button. It's even better than knock code IMO.

Real opinion needed on purchasing now

Using a 6+ at the moment, but I need android as well. I am holding out for the note edge (owned every note gen), but in the mean time I am thinking of picking up a g3 second hand (very cost effective for what you get). Now I have read all about the lag, overheating etc followed by "you can fix it if you root and tweak". I am all down for tweaking, romming etc. I just need honest opinions about the end result. Not the fanboy defense or defending the phone because you have one etc. Thanks
I do like mine quite a bit. I have gone the rooting route of course, but it wasn't too bad before that either. There's a few things that still bug me, such as not being able to trigger Google Now via my Bluetooth headset and the AUX issues. Then screen is a bit dim and the battery life is amazingly average, but beyond those the phone is pretty awesome.
nycdarkness said:
Using a 6+ at the moment, but I need android as well. I am holding out for the note edge (owned every note gen), but in the mean time I am thinking of picking up a g3 second hand (very cost effective for what you get). Now I have read all about the lag, overheating etc followed by "you can fix it if you root and tweak". I am all down for tweaking, romming etc. I just need honest opinions about the end result. Not the fanboy defense or defending the phone because you have one etc. Thanks
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Honestly I've never had any of the mentioned issues, I've had G3 2 days before it was released. I love the phone, used to be Samsung person myself, got tired of Knox. I get at least 2 days battery, with no lag or overheating.
Maybe its my coverage area or the fact that incant stand a dim screen, but I've never been able to get "good" battery life in about any phone.
I was initially anxious when I purchased the phone. But with Xposed, Greenify, Tasker, Root, Bump!, Nova Launcher, and a variety of other tweaks, apps and freezing of bloatware, the phone just rocks now. I don't even need a custom ROM any more.
I also enjoy the look, feel and size of the phone. And I really like having the buttons on the back rather than the side. Qi charging has also been a nice frill.
The one remaining deficiency that can never be fixed is the screen in direct sunlight. Even with Lux IPS will never look as good or clear as Retina or Amoled.
I picked up the g3. I rooted and rommed, installed greenify etc. So far battery idle is great, haven't really tested usage. However, I notice there is a lag, not always but there seems to be a stutter that's almost predictable and constant. Any ideas?
nycdarkness said:
I picked up the g3. I rooted and rommed, installed greenify etc. So far battery idle is great, haven't really tested usage. However, I notice there is a lag, not always but there seems to be a stutter that's almost predictable and constant. Any ideas?
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If you search around the forums you'll see that this is a persistent concern for a lot of G3 owners. Here are some solutions/workarounds that I think I've seen the most often:
(1) Change your launcher to something better like Nova.
(2) Switch from Dalvik to ART (and sometimes vice versa).
(3) Uninstalling, freezing or at least Greenifying an app that just isn't working well with your phone. Top candidates include Facebook Messenger, LG Keyboard and Google Play Services.
(4) Go into developer options and completely turn off Windows animation scale, transition animation scale, and Animator duration scale.
A fifth idea which I don't personally recommend is to go into the hidden menu of the phone and reduce or eliminate the built-in slowdown that triggers when your phone reaches a certain temperature.
There's a wealth of discussion regarding this topic on the XDA forums. Take some time and look around.
Personally my phone has always been lag-free so it can be done!
Henri Blanche said:
If you search around the forums you'll see that this is a persistent concern for a lot of G3 owners. Here are some solutions/workarounds that I think I've seen the most often:
(1) Change your launcher to something better like Nova.
(2) Switch from Dalvik to ART (and sometimes vice versa).
(3) Uninstalling, freezing or at least Greenifying an app that just isn't working well with your phone. Top candidates include Facebook Messenger, LG Keyboard and Google Play Services.
(4) Go into developer options and completely turn off Windows animation scale, transition animation scale, and Animator duration scale.
A fifth idea which I don't personally recommend is to go into the hidden menu of the phone and reduce or eliminate the built-in slowdown that triggers when your phone reaches a certain temperature.
There's a wealth of discussion regarding this topic on the XDA forums. Take some time and look around.
Personally my phone has always been lag-free so it can be done!
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I've done everything you have take the time to list, with the exception of art. I guess I will try that now. Thanks
nycdarkness said:
I've done everything you have take the time to list, with the exception of art. I guess I will try that now. Thanks
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Also switch to a different keyboard. The stock LG keyboard seems to be a lag fest, too.

So many issues with this "Flagship" phone...

Picked up my AT&T G5 on April 23rd. Thought it was pretty darn good at the time, but after using it for a week there are just to many issues with it. Most of them seem to be common here on the forum, so I thought I would run down my list.
1. Dropping Network. I have found that about 2-3 times a day while the signal bars are showing full signal that there is n 4g or 1x icon. during this time I have no connectivity. cannot call, Email, text, surf the web, nothing. this tends to last for anywhere from a few seconds to last night it was over 40 mins. If I reboot the phone that seems to reestablish the network connection, but this is a huge issue to me. I need a reliable phone for work.
2. Dropping GPS. I am a guy that is used for issues at multiple work sites and facilities. As such I tend to use my GPS quite often. last week luckily I was at one static facility so I didnt need to rely on my GPS, but I ran it anyway as I had seen a number of people reporting issues with the G5 retaining GPS lock. about every 15-30 mins my phone would drop the GPS signal. it would take anywhere from a few seconds to 10 mins to reestablish. This is on a known route that i have never had any sort of GPS issues with any phones before.
3. Camera. I had the S4, S5, and then the S6 Edge. they all had pretty good cameras. Low light worked really well. the camera on the G5 does not compare. I thought I could live with it, but coupled with the other issues... Yea, its a problem for me. i like the wide angle camera, but the normal camera leaves a lot to be desired especially in low light situations.
4. Bluetooth. In my car i stream Pandora quite a bit. at least once a day i have to turn bluetooth back on as it will shut itself off in the middle of my commute. Again,not a deal breaker in and of itself, but with everything else...
5. Alarm Clock reliability. This is a strange one... the stock alarm clock tends to not go off for me. the app I normally download and use just plain didnt work with the G5. in one week the alarm has completely failed to go off 4 different days. I have checked all the settings, everything is right, nothing is killing the alarm clock app during the night, but in the morning it just wont go off. I have set the alarm and watched it waiting for it to go off for testing, and half the time when it does go off it is not audible. just the screen lights up. then if I leave everything set as it was and bump the time a couple mins so that it will go off again, the next time I will get audio. sometimes. its inconsistent, but the majority of the time it does not work properly.
6. Screen Quality. Ok, this one is really an issue with me. im jaded. I admit this. Coming from the AmoLED's on the Galaxy series looking at the G5's screen colors seem washed out. Not as sharp and bright. I know the Sammy phones over-saturate the colors, but I guess Im just used to them and because of that this screen Im just not happy with.
7. Always on display. Or what ever it is... the clock that is displayed on the screen when you turn off the screen and lock the phone. On the S6 edge I had only the clock numerals and such was lit. the rest of the screen remained off and black. With the G5 screen even though the screen looks like its off and black in a dark room you can tell the entire screen is on. it lights up my room at night. not a lot, but just enough to bug me. Again, not a deal breaker in and of itself, but with everything else....
8. Sound. streaming music via BT is fine, well as long as the BT remains on... using a pair of wired headphones the audio quality just isnt there. Playing the same track on my G5, my old GS6 Edge and my wifes S7 there is a definite sound quality loss with the G5. I have a set of Sennheiser studio headphones and I could tell ever time my wife plugged them into the G5. I was looking forward to the HIFI module, but well with all the rest here...
So this morning I went back to my AT&T store to return this phone since I was still within my 15 day period. Got there 20 mins before it opened and waited with 4 other people. when i got inside and all checked in to the que for help, the lady kinda chuckled. apparently the other 4 people were there to do the same thing, exchange the G5 for a different device.
I really wanted to like this phone. I really tried. One or two of the issues i could have lived with, but when they are all present... this does NOT seem like a flagship phone to me. seems more like a swing and a miss.
I don't have a G5, so my answer is only based on reviews and other users tests:
1) Here in italy all the reviewers claimed the G5 to have the beste signal in both mobile and wifi network compared to S7 Edge, P9 and HTC 10, so maybe your model was defective?
2) Nothing to say as it seems that other users suffered of this problem, i found nothing about GPS problems in reviews though.
3) G5 has the best camera in normal condition, in low light there is no competition because S7 obviously do a lot better.
4) Same as point 2, no problem in reviews, but some users here in xda have the same problem.
5) It's a third party app? Really, does it work on other devices with Marshmallow or with the Snapdragon 820? The stock app work? Other third party apps work?
6) Yep, that's it. But keep in mind that Amoled is anyway the best display.
7) AOD is totally wrong on both G5 and S7, in the first because in order to drain less battery the display backlight is very low, and in the second, and in my opinion is the more stupid, because it's useless, you can (for the moment) see only stock app notification, clock and date (maybe a very few other things)
8) The bluetooth issue is the same that you reported in point 4, and the story is again the same, some users reported it, but reviewers and other users are surprised for the good sound.
Just try to answer to some problems, i've no intention to argument
I have the poor signal and drops. I was blaming it on my carrier. I may take this back and get a different brand all together.
Hey Kill, In regards to #5, the stock app wasnt working reliably so I tried a app store app. that one wasnt reliable either. I always try to use the stock built in first.
In regards to #8 I was talking about the wired headphones via the headphone jack. BT audio sounded good, but the quality loss was with the wired headphones.
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Hey Kill, In regards to #5, the stock app wasnt working reliably so I tried a app store app. that one wasnt reliable either. I always try to use the stock built in first.
In regards to #8 I was talking about the wired headphones via the headphone jack. BT audio sounded good, but the quality loss was with the wired headphones.
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For the #5 strange, never heard something like this.
For the #8 i saw that, it's the same as other problems, some users have them, other not, and the reviewers never said nothing. Maybe there was a problem with the the jack itself, in my opinion the real issue with this phone is that you have high chances to get a faulty one, moreover in us where it was released first. In my country I'm still waiting for users feedback
I love my lg g5. I get bored of phones and switch up so regularly but still absolutely loving it. I mainly got it for the camera, and I'm more impressed than I was with my beloved lg g4. In manual mode I still believe it's better than the s7 (I tested then both over the course of a week).
That data drop is interesting though. Happens to me too, but can't figure out if it might be something to do with whether you turn wi-fi on or off. Seems linked, as happens to me at work.
I have the ATT one too. Got it the day before launch... Screen i think comes second to the S7 TBh, but is still pretty damn good... Camera I find is sick, better than the competition in my opinion. I haven't had any issues with data or signal loss whatsoever, however I can confirm when using GPS the signal will either drop, or it won't lock on at all until I just about hold it to the top of my front windshield!!! The sound I find is fine, but im no audio engineer either. I use jaybird X2 BT ear buds and I think they sound fantastic with no Bluetooth signal loss ever... Alarm issue is a new one to me.. No problems here and I constantly have to change the time due to our ridiculous work schedule.
One can definitely understand why you are bringing yours back. Hope you enjoy your next device.
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Picked up my AT&T G5 on April 23rd. Thought it was pretty darn good at the time, but after using it for a week there are just to many issues with it. Most of them seem to be common here on the forum, so I thought I would run down my list.
1. Dropping Network. I have found that about 2-3 times a day while the signal bars are showing full signal that there is n 4g or 1x icon. during this time I have no connectivity. cannot call, Email, text, surf the web, nothing. this tends to last for anywhere from a few seconds to last night it was over 40 mins. If I reboot the phone that seems to reestablish the network connection, but this is a huge issue to me. I need a reliable phone for work.
2. Dropping GPS. I am a guy that is used for issues at multiple work sites and facilities. As such I tend to use my GPS quite often. last week luckily I was at one static facility so I didnt need to rely on my GPS, but I ran it anyway as I had seen a number of people reporting issues with the G5 retaining GPS lock. about every 15-30 mins my phone would drop the GPS signal. it would take anywhere from a few seconds to 10 mins to reestablish. This is on a known route that i have never had any sort of GPS issues with any phones before.
3. Camera. I had the S4, S5, and then the S6 Edge. they all had pretty good cameras. Low light worked really well. the camera on the G5 does not compare. I thought I could live with it, but coupled with the other issues... Yea, its a problem for me. i like the wide angle camera, but the normal camera leaves a lot to be desired especially in low light situations.
4. Bluetooth. In my car i stream Pandora quite a bit. at least once a day i have to turn bluetooth back on as it will shut itself off in the middle of my commute. Again,not a deal breaker in and of itself, but with everything else...
5. Alarm Clock reliability. This is a strange one... the stock alarm clock tends to not go off for me. the app I normally download and use just plain didnt work with the G5. in one week the alarm has completely failed to go off 4 different days. I have checked all the settings, everything is right, nothing is killing the alarm clock app during the night, but in the morning it just wont go off. I have set the alarm and watched it waiting for it to go off for testing, and half the time when it does go off it is not audible. just the screen lights up. then if I leave everything set as it was and bump the time a couple mins so that it will go off again, the next time I will get audio. sometimes. its inconsistent, but the majority of the time it does not work properly.
6. Screen Quality. Ok, this one is really an issue with me. im jaded. I admit this. Coming from the AmoLED's on the Galaxy series looking at the G5's screen colors seem washed out. Not as sharp and bright. I know the Sammy phones over-saturate the colors, but I guess Im just used to them and because of that this screen Im just not happy with.
7. Always on display. Or what ever it is... the clock that is displayed on the screen when you turn off the screen and lock the phone. On the S6 edge I had only the clock numerals and such was lit. the rest of the screen remained off and black. With the G5 screen even though the screen looks like its off and black in a dark room you can tell the entire screen is on. it lights up my room at night. not a lot, but just enough to bug me. Again, not a deal breaker in and of itself, but with everything else....
8. Sound. streaming music via BT is fine, well as long as the BT remains on... using a pair of wired headphones the audio quality just isnt there. Playing the same track on my G5, my old GS6 Edge and my wifes S7 there is a definite sound quality loss with the G5. I have a set of Sennheiser studio headphones and I could tell ever time my wife plugged them into the G5. I was looking forward to the HIFI module, but well with all the rest here...
So this morning I went back to my AT&T store to return this phone since I was still within my 15 day period. Got there 20 mins before it opened and waited with 4 other people. when i got inside and all checked in to the que for help, the lady kinda chuckled. apparently the other 4 people were there to do the same thing, exchange the G5 for a different device.
I really wanted to like this phone. I really tried. One or two of the issues i could have lived with, but when they are all present... this does NOT seem like a flagship phone to me. seems more like a swing and a miss.
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Humm, I haven't had any such issues....
Hope you enjoy your new device.
As a comparison, my data, gps, Bluetooth and such all work fine. When using an auxiliary cable in my car I had that hissing sound, but using the alternate 3.5mm port on the back of my radio fixed the issue.
The only part of the phone that could use some fine tuning is the strength of the paint or whatever it's calledy. The paint got a little rough or irritated in a couple spots from removing a tpu case less than ten times. I also noticed a little chip in the coating near the charging port. I'm very careful with my phones. My G2 has less blemishes at this point and I've had that thing forever. I'll be curious to see how it will hold up over the next year, at the least.
Who knows, my paint problem could be a minority issue just as others with GPS and data issues. In my case, instead of getting a new device that could possibly have more than superficial defects. I'll keep the one with the funky paint.
As we all know, there's lots to love about this phone. I'm sure as hell keeping mine.
All the problems I hear about seem to be non existant on the unbranded variants or variants for carriers outside the US...
Also AT&T H820 seems to have the most issues.
Had this phone for a week now with no issues.I've only read one bad report of a variant outside the US...
Not saying LG is not at fault but this what happens when carriers mess with the firmware...doesn't explain quality issues but most of it seems to be with AT&T
My main issue is the ambient light sensor causing the image to flicker in low light when using the FFC, and the obvious auto brightness issue. This needs to get fixed ASAP by LG.
Everything else is working just fine for me. Battery life is meh, but as others have mentioned the stand by time is amazing feels similar to the performance of an iPhone in terms of battery life. Bluetooth works fine as well.
I do not have any of these issues. So have to say I disagree with this post completely.
1 Carrier issues, ie network is your mobile provider. Mine drops never. 4G 2 to 3 bars most of the time.
2. GPS on mine is perfect, many journeys well over half an hour, no issues at all.
3. The camera beats out any other phone I've used low light and craps over the Galaxy S's Barring the 7. (You need to use manual or a steady hand but still stands)
4. BT issues is the devices you are connecting to.
5. Alarm clock always goes off for me.. maybe you're turning it off in your sleep, or some settings you've altered or app you've downloaded
6. S6 and 7 screens are better, no doubt, except in sunlight where the S6 is not really useable but G5 is absolutely perfect in sun. As bright as if you're indoors.
7. Always on display drains too much battery so I turn it off... I like my 6.5 hours screen on time at 75% brightness.
8. Sound quality trounces my old S6 and Xperia Z5, can't say much else about this. It's louder and clearer and bassier.
Have to say i'm happy with this phone and thanks to the wide angle lens.. I might just end up keeping it.
UK H850 Stock Rom had for 4 weeks now.
1. Dropping Network. -- This has been better than my old Z2. In fact some "dead spots" that my friends phone suffer from I find my phone still has 2 bars
2. Dropping GPS. -- Used the LG fitness tracker the other day and it was really accurate to the paths I walked when check on google maps. CHecking some photos on google and they are accurate to 2 metres.
3. Camera. -- Low light has not been an issue for me, but if it were I'd switch to the manual mode. Done some amazing sunsets thanks to the manual mode
4. Bluetooth. -- Only used with headphones but never had an issue. Streamed for couple of hours to a portable speaker at a bbq this weekend and was faultless.
5. Alarm Clock reliability.-- Not used that feature. Have used the timer function for cooking and that works a treat, very loud as well
6. Screen Quality.-- I thought my Xperia Z2 screen was good, the G5 is blinding when you set brightness up. It's amazing for outdoor use in sun light. I have seen the S6 screen, colours look freakish and don't match when on a TV or monitor
7. Always on display. -- I have stopped turning my phone on thanks to this and the battery usage is insane, it barely uses it. Also I have noticed it changes brightness based on on light sensor. Plus if I want it off I cover the proximity sensor or flip it.
8. using a pair of wired headphones the audio quality just isnt there. -- Yet this has a 24bit DAC, better than the S7 (dependent on processor) and most other flagships. The basic headphones with it are crap but they are cheap. But my sony nc ones sound amazing with it.
I read a lot of bad things about quality whee this launched but then I reminded myself, people only tend to have time to complain about things and no praise. I know I'm guilty of that. In fact I'll layout my one complaint about the G5, the UI. It's not as "clever" or usable as what I'm used to with the Xperia. But I can change that with 3rd party software and root.
Maybe you have a bad one, or may as someone else pointed out the issue is the carriers forcing changes on base model. All those variants could be affecting the quality control.
I have the H860N dual sim version, not having any problems as mentioned above apart from the alarm part.
I set my alarm on at 3pm and 4pm with snooze in case I over slept, but some how the alarm goes off at around 9:20pm and also the set alarm times, not sure if it's related to other features.
I'm still testing it now.
I just wanted to chime in here.
I have the LG G5 on Verizon and my signal is horrid. I lose LTE coverage all the time. This is NOT the network as I also carry a LG G4 with me that is also on Verizon and it always has a LTE connection and a strong signal at the time that the G5 drops. I am getting Verizon to replace the device, hopefully this resolves the issue.
They had me use the Repair tool on my PC along with multiple factory resets. They event went as far as to blame the Google Application updates that were from the Play store, aka looking for a cop out.
The only issue that I've had with my G5 has been with the AT&T LTE signal. Sometimes I find the phone struggling to stay on LTE for a minute or two. This is not a big problem for me but it is sometimes annoying when I try to watch a video or something. I live in the Washington DC area and LTE service is pretty strong over most of the area, so it's not a carrier issue. Again it's not a big deal and most of the time I don't notice it.
Regarding the camera, it's one of the best smartphone cameras I've seen yet, I've taken some pretty amazing shots and all of them have been in full auto mode.
If your device is having that many issues, you should probably return it.
You are right
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All the problems I hear about seem to be non existant on the unbranded variants or variants for carriers outside the US...
Also AT&T H820 seems to have the most issues.
Had this phone for a week now with no issues.I've only read one bad report of a variant outside the US...
Not saying LG is not at fault but this what happens when carriers mess with the firmware...doesn't explain quality issues but most of it seems to be with AT&T
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I wonder why AT&T and other U.S. carriers like to put their own software on top of LG factory image. Unbranded LG G5 works great!
Maybe you are right, Carriers 's bloatware may cause those issues.
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Go hidden menu, Run a ALL-AUTO-TEST, you can test the LTE NETWORK issues, If in test mode, the LTE never drops. It is not the hardware issue. According to my experience, Most of issues are caused by Carrier firmware.
I have this same issue with the alarm clock. sometimes it works my early morning alarm rarely goes off.
I have tried adding the alarm clock app to the battery optimization exception list and that hasn't helped.
Third party apps on the optimization list or off still unreliable.
anyone find a solution for this? i may try a factory reset this weekend.
other apps like KIK seem to have the same problem like they just stop functioning when the screen is off. I get a flood of messages when i unlock the screen.
could it have something to do with device encryption? i don't think my phone always had these problems and that;s the only big change i can think of that i made.
I haven't had a single one of the listed issues on my Verizon phone other than the pretty bad low light camera, which does bum me out because it was weirdly a lot better on my G4? Daylight photos are absolutely beautiful.
I also use my alarm every night with no issues.
The update my phone downloaded last Friday seems to have fixed my issues with the alarm clock.
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Fellow nerds, what are you thoughts on HTC 10?

I've had my fair share of smartphones, all with ups and downs, but I'd like to think that the 10 is pretty close to being the perfect phone. I want to know what you guys think, as fellow owners. I'll give you a rundown of my most recent phones that I'm comparing to.
Nexus 6p
Nexus 5x
Galaxy s7
Moto X Pure
Droid Turbo 2
Droid Turbo
Thanks for your input!! [emoji16]
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I should also mention that I've got mine rooted, (thanks @jcase!) along with my unlimited data.
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I should also mention that I've got mine rooted, (thanks @jcase!) along with my unlimited data.
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I enjoy the phone, dev scene should go up soon with our next. Sunshine release
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I enjoy the phone, dev scene should go up soon with our next. Sunshine release
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Sounds promising!! I can't wait to free my phone!!
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Being away from the android market for some time now the m9 be my return phone and 10 my current I'd say it's pretty solid. Androids come a long way since the early days.
In case you can't see below signature, I've had a handful of HTC handsets since the Incredible and tested still more. The 10 is the best they've ever put out. I'm finding it snappy; love the sound with headphones and don't mind the loss of stereo via the speaker. I don't know how I lived without a fingerprint scanner and I have always been partial to hardware buttons. I've never tried a Nexus both because they aren't always available for Verizon and they never take removable storage which is a deal breaker for me.
My first smartphone was the droid eris and i only purchased it because it was able to be s-off'ed. Then i upgraded to htc incredible 2 which was quite an upgrade, then i jumped to the SGS III. Then i bought the M8 which was a good phone, but had such a horrible camera. I think HTC nailed this phone and i never thought how much i love the fingerprint scanner. Never been a fan of encrypting a phone, but how its default now. I have to say its going pretty well. Now that sunshine has been updated to allow unlocking without mail in, I think the development will get even better. I can't wait to flash a AOSP ROM.
I'm loving it. It's definitely a step up from the m9 in my opinion. Better battery life, screen and camera. My only complaints are about the keyboard (screw TouchPal) and the audio isn't quite as loud as the m9.
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Best phone I've ever owned. Best unlocked bootloader currently available. With expandable storage, it's even preferable to the new HTC Nexus Marlin, in my opinion.
Major cons: screen is C-grade. Maybe C+. It's not very bright, and mine has a reddish tint. Also the phone isn't as loud as I'd wish.
Major pros: best unlocked phone available. Expandable storage. Great metal unibody. Great design all around. Great sound quality.
Truly, truly the best phone I've owned in my personal opinion. I thought the Nexus 6P was fantastic until I got the HTC 10; and although the Nexus 6P is obviously cheaper, the difference in quality had me quite in shock. Only complaint is the abysmal speaker volume, miss the boomsound from the M8.
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Best phone I've ever owned. Best unlocked bootloader currently available. With expandable storage, it's even preferable to the new HTC Nexus Marlin, in my opinion.
Major cons: screen is C-grade. Maybe C+. It's not very bright, and mine has a reddish tint. Also the phone isn't as loud as I'd wish.
Major pros: best unlocked phone available. Expandable storage. Great metal unibody. Great design all around. Great sound quality.
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You can manually change the screen temperature settings.
Settings>Display, gestures & buttons>Color Profile.
I agree with you on the volume level though.
I started out as one of the biggest defenders of this phone but I've slowly been disappointed due to a few quirks listed below. However, it still stands as a fantastic phone. It's proven to me that Android has matured to the point I don't need root and custom ROMS.
- Polarized LCD Panel: Sharp but still washed out next to AMOLED. Also can't see it with my polarized shades on.
- SD Card Mount Issues: I have a 200gb microSD. I've replaced both the phone and the SD card. Still get unmount need to reformat errors which are incredibly annoying to deal with when I have 140gb of music locally.
- Random slowdowns: Happening more and more frequently where I have to start going in and force stopping apps and rebooting the entire phone.
- Screen Randomly Waking: I've had so many butt dials and funky texts sent out to people because this will wake up in my pocket even after I've completely disabled touch to wake.
- Dropped Signal: I'll have to randomly switch off both Cell and WiFi to get signal sometimes
- Android Auto: It just won't work some days. Works just fine with other USB C phones.
- Sexiness: Yeah, maybe I'm shallow but I don't think this is nearly as clean as the M7 was. It's still a great looking phone but after putting it in a very thin, clear TPU case it really lost its value. Coming from a Droid Turbo that never needed a case this was a big thing. My work iPhone 6S in the identical case still maintains a great look.
- AOSP Support: This will come, however, I'd like to have it be more supported. For this reason alone I think I'll hold off on BL unlock and sell the device for the new Pixel phone.
Battery: Not awful by any means but also not great. QC, though, is a god send.
I have not BL unlocked the device but I'm simply waiting only due to the new Pixel phones releasing next month as I may just sell and upgrade to one of those. It's kind of unfair to compare this unrooted device to my BL unlocked Droid Turbo but with custom software that SD805 phone was about 90% as fast as this device while feeling better in the hand and better battery life to boot. In hindsight, I should have held on to that longer and waited for the Pixel to upgrade.
I sound like I'm really dragging the phone down but I'm still a, mostly, happy user
What do you mean that QC is a godsend. Would love to improve my phone's battery life.
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What do you mean that QC is a godsend. Would love to improve my phone's battery life.
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I think he is referring to the QC quick charge 3.0
pjd2011 said:
I started out as one of the biggest defenders of this phone but I've slowly been disappointed due to a few quirks listed below. However, it still stands as a fantastic phone. It's proven to me that Android has matured to the point I don't need root and custom ROMS.
- Polarized LCD Panel: Sharp but still washed out next to AMOLED. Also can't see it with my polarized shades on.
- SD Card Mount Issues: I have a 200gb microSD. I've replaced both the phone and the SD card. Still get unmount need to reformat errors which are incredibly annoying to deal with when I have 140gb of music locally.
- Random slowdowns: Happening more and more frequently where I have to start going in and force stopping apps and rebooting the entire phone.
- Screen Randomly Waking: I've had so many butt dials and funky texts sent out to people because this will wake up in my pocket even after I've completely disabled touch to wake.
- Dropped Signal: I'll have to randomly switch off both Cell and WiFi to get signal sometimes
- Android Auto: It just won't work some days. Works just fine with other USB C phones.
- Sexiness: Yeah, maybe I'm shallow but I don't think this is nearly as clean as the M7 was. It's still a great looking phone but after putting it in a very thin, clear TPU case it really lost its value. Coming from a Droid Turbo that never needed a case this was a big thing. My work iPhone 6S in the identical case still maintains a great look.
- AOSP Support: This will come, however, I'd like to have it be more supported. For this reason alone I think I'll hold off on BL unlock and sell the device for the new Pixel phone.
Battery: Not awful by any means but also not great. QC, though, is a god send.
I have not BL unlocked the device but I'm simply waiting only due to the new Pixel phones releasing next month as I may just sell and upgrade to one of those. It's kind of unfair to compare this unrooted device to my BL unlocked Droid Turbo but with custom software that SD805 phone was about 90% as fast as this device while feeling better in the hand and better battery life to boot. In hindsight, I should have held on to that longer and waited for the Pixel to upgrade.
I sound like I'm really dragging the phone down but I'm still a, mostly, happy user
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- Polarized LCD Panel: it's part of the LCD tech. Only alternative would be to AMOLED but LCD has natural/neutral colors and "smooth" pixels versus AMOLED in which you can see individual LEDs/pixels and purple smears on black/gray colors. It's a matter of preference really.
- SD Card Mount Issues: not sure why you're having so many SD card errors. Perhaps it's formatted as internal or something else? No SD card issues with the majority of us.
- Random slowdowns: Definitely a rogue app! Haven't had slowdowns like that since 2011 flagships.
- Screen Randomly Waking: Strange as the phone will never wake unless you hit the power button (with DT2W disabled in your case)
- Dropped Signal: have you tried formatting? Doesn't sound normal for a phone to behave like that.
- Android Auto: I don't use it so I wouldn't know, as I just use Maps.
- Sexiness: Again, preferences.
- AOSP Support: Thankfully, Sense is now closer to AOSP than ever, without the boringness/plainness of AOSP that nexuses have. It actually has some neat additional features that lack in AOSP.
Battery: I find battery to be great given it's only a 3000 mAh. It's not as good as my previous Droid Turbo(3900 mAh) but the QC 3.0 make up for it.
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- Polarized LCD Panel: it's part of the LCD tech. Only alternative would be to AMOLED but LCD has natural/neutral colors and "smooth" pixels versus AMOLED in which you can see individual LEDs/pixels and purple smears on black/gray colors. It's a matter of preference really.
- SD Card Mount Issues: not sure why you're having so many SD card errors. Perhaps it's formatted as internal or something else? No SD card issues with the majority of us.
- Random slowdowns: Definitely a rogue app! Haven't had slowdowns like that since 2011 flagships.
- Screen Randomly Waking: Strange as the phone will never wake unless you hit the power button (with DT2W disabled in your case)
- Dropped Signal: have you tried formatting? Doesn't sound normal for a phone to behave like that.
- AOSP Support: Thankfully, Sense is now closer to AOSP than ever, without the boringness/plainness of AOSP that nexuses have. It actually has some neat additional features that lack in AOSP.
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Yeah, Quick Charge definitely makes up for any difference in battery compared to the Turbo.
As for the signal, it's definitely a rogue issue but I find myself having to enter and exit airplane mode more and more frequently to gain 4G. Usually I'd only have this problem on AOSP Roms on non-Nexus devices.
The screen randomly waking is just flat out annoying. Especially on runs. Accidentally called my CIO the other day when my phone was locked and in my pocket....Not good.
The SD card issue truly is my biggest complaints as I wanted to have this device for my music. I left on a week long vacation and just before boarding my flight I lost all my music. Incredibly annoying and it's always been set as external storage. When attempting to use internal I get the same issue (when testing).
As for the LCD I understand it's complete preference but other LCD panels I've used did not have this issue. When you're out on a boat and in the sun as much as I am you're always wearing polarized glasses. This thing is unreadable out in the daylight.
I don't have issues with signal, or really anything. I would say main grip (minimal) is Wi-Fi does drain battery more than LTE. I will say it's a lot better with custom sense Tom though.
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I'm going on my 2nd day with the HTC 10 and I can say I'm pleasantly surprised. After being a Samsung junky coming from a S7 Edge and then the Note 7 I can honestly say I am very pleased with my switch to HTC. I've owned nearly every Samsung flagship since the Note 3. Everything has been working great for me and the near AOSP compared to TouchWiz is great. The camera isn't much of a downgrade from Samsung at all and that really makes me happy. I've been using the phone caseless until mine comes in the mail tomorrow so I've really gotten a good feel for the phone. It handles well and is built nice. I S-Offed and rooted shortly after I got the phone and have zero regrets on the switch. I just wish I did it sooner and I would have saved a bunch of cash from phone switching. Nice job HTC with the build and @jcase and the team for root.
Horrible device, would definitely not recommend this to anyone. Uses a crazy amount of data that the phone doesn't seem to be registering (according to my cell phone I went through 1.2GB of data, the phone is showing 133MB). Battery life is beyond horrible (yes everything possible is disabled -- not syncing, not using photo sync, not using backup, disabled all gestures, turned off all google now/google anything services, screen is set to dim just enough to barely see it). Just using KIK for 20 minutes yesterday I lost 10% battery (no joke). Wifi is still buggy, even after the 186 firmware update. Can't tell if its Marshmallow in general or HTC's garbage services that is causing all these problems. There are so many little annoying things with the Verizon build too -- default email app doesn't resize HTML messages so everything is HUGE, the power toggle widget sucks -- you click wifi which normally turns it on/off but it instead brings you to the wifi settings where you then have to manually turn it on/off, things like this that I have to deal with daily is slowly driving me crazy. Going back to my old device until my data gets the monthly reset, then I'll try some custom ROMs to see if it helps with these issues.
Honestly, the only good feature on this phone is the fingerprint scanner. It did make me realize how much I love my little Razr M which I would go through a full day of use and still only be at 90-85% battery.

Question Pixel 6 Thread for supporting OP6T (and similar OP) users

Hi folks,
Reading through a lot of the threads here I see that the Pixel 6 is very popular with the OP6T phone set. As the OP6T has ended official support I expect more and more of its users will be getting Pixel 6 phones. I just got mine yesterday and am getting used to it. I thought it might be nice to have a thread where folks used to the OP6T and similar OP models could discuss transition issues while we get used to our new Pixels.
I'll start with one big question:
I'm dying without the physical ringer switch. I knew I was giving it up, but I'm struggling. On the OP6T, I would use it maybe 20 times a day. Incoming Teams call from the boss? Set phone to silent. Ad pops up without volume control while playing a game? Slam the phone to silent. And so on.
Whjat's a quick way to switch between normal / vibrate only / silent mode on the P6?
Would love to hear other experiences, learnings, and questions!
One thing that i did not know initially is that volume keys and the ability from there to switch sound modes works also on lock screen. Just press volume up or volume down and use the button above the volume bar to switch sound modes.
Yeah I found that. It's slick but still takes more than just shoving a slider.
I wonder if there's a setting to like double tap a volume key to toggle modes?
Another thing I'm getting used to is the thickness of the device. I saw it in the specs before I ordered, but wow it feels like a brick. On the other hand, it's got a beefy battery and if a thicker phone is the price for longevity, I will get used to it gladly.
Overall I'm trying hard to run it stock Google to get the experience. However, I may be going back to Nova Launcher for my home screen; I'm not loving the stock google launcher due to lack of customization so far. Time will tell.
Alert slider was iconic feature for oneplus but now even they are dropping it in the newer devices that are not flagships. I am a little bit cursed regarding experiments with new brands. I bought LG V10 and liked it but it had the dreaded bootloop problem and after that LG went down. I bought HTC u ultra and liked it but after that htc went down. I bought oneplus 7 and really liked it but after that the merger with oppo started and everything that i liked in oneplus started to gradually vanish. Now i like the pixel 6 despite the initial problems and hope that situation will only improve in future.
What drives me nuts is manufacturers remove useful features that I love.
For example the multicolor notification LED. Used almost zero power and with proper app could blink color/rate variably depending what was going on. Silent, discrete in meetings, but told me what I needed to know. But now extinct.
Also I don't get the design choice of slick/fragile phone backsides. I used to by more rugged backed phones to go without a case. No more, phones are now more expensive due to glass back plus I need to buy a case adding cost and bulk. Sigh.
Frankenscript said:
What drives me nuts is manufacturers remove useful features that I love.
For example the multicolor notification LED...
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True, there's a way around this though - aodNotify makes the hole punch a bit less useless, flashing basically a notification LED around it. I've been loving it since I've started using it in Nov and can highly recommend.
neptun2 said:
Alert slider was iconic feature for oneplus but now even they are dropping it in the newer devices that are not flagships. I am a little bit cursed regarding experiments with new brands. I bought LG V10 and liked it but it had the dreaded bootloop problem and after that LG went down. I bought HTC u ultra and liked it but after that htc went down. I bought oneplus 7 and really liked it but after that the merger with oppo started and everything that i liked in oneplus started to gradually vanish. Now i like the pixel 6 despite the initial problems and hope that situation will only improve in future.
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January update fixed all of the remaining issues for me, YMMV ofc.
Nezorflame said:
True, there's a way around this though - aodNotify makes the hole punch a bit less useless, flashing basically a notification LED around it. I've been loving it since I've started using it in Nov and can highly recommend.
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Thanks for this!
I've bought the pro version, and did some basic setup. One feature it seems to lack that I'd really like, which I will communicate with the developer on, is to make the color settable not just per app, but per email account sending the notification. Maybe this already exists in the "contact" section. I'll have to play with it some more this weekend. I have three email accounts on the phone, and it would be nice to get differential notifications for "family email" versus "personal email" versus "commercial email" accounts. Also have to see if there's a way to have the time/date stuff off... I'd prefer a fully black screen except for the flashing notifications, when present.
But all this is just me picking nits. This looks like a great piece of software that fills a gap, and I appreciate the introduction to it!!
neptun2 said:
One thing that i did not know initially is that volume keys and the ability from there to switch sound modes works also on lock screen. Just press volume up or volume down and use the button above the volume bar to switch sound modes.
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One more not on this: I learned the hard way that the silent mode applies onlybtonringer and notifications. It doesn't silence the phone like the OP phone sliders do. Media sounds remain enabled, so this mode doesn't silence ads which is the main thing I wanted to use it for. I'm experimenting to see if these modes remember the media volume last selected within the mode. Sometimes it seems yes, but sometimes they seem to reset.
Hi folks,
After about two weeks with this phone I'm pretty settled in and liking it.
My biggest single issue was the lack of physical audio switch which I'm delighted to report is entirely deprecated by using the wonderful Button Mapper app by @flar2 . That app let me map a single down-volume tap to silencing media sounds, which was exactly what I needed.
I've gotten used to the increased thickness/weight of the phone, which of course there is no remedy for other than time and familiarity.
I'm pleased by its snappy responsiveness, and very happy with the built-in googleness of it, including the benefits of its dialer and call screening and visual voicemail which is better than the ATT equivalent. There are also a lot of assistant features I plan to dig into, gradually, that are better on pixels than other phones. It's nice to know I'm "on board."
The phone works well for wifi calling with ATT after I got the IMEI added to my AT&T account (I was never able to get that to work on my 6T) and at least in my area the 5G coverage is good. I don't get super fast data speeds on 5G but the typical 30 MB/s is more than enough for my uses when I'm out and about.
I've added aodNotify to make up for the missing multicolor LED in recent phones (6T didn't have one either) and while I'd like a few more customizations, it's pretty awesome.
For the first time in several phones I stuck with Messages instead of using my beloved Textra. I'm still getting used to things (including notably less customizable font sizes) but the benefits of Messages going forward probably outweigh the losses.
The one thing I had to ditch pretty quickly was the Google Launcher home screen. I went back to Nova Launcher within days; I just couldn't handle the "basic-ness" of the built in Launcher. That's less about the phone than anything else but I mention it all the same.
One ongoing thing: the phone is usually warm. My 6T only heated noticeably when I was doing something really intensive with it. The P6 warms up just sitting there with the screen on. Still, I get good battery life so I'm not worrying about it.
Overall I'm pleased with my purchase and recommend the phone to folks coming from the OnePlus line. Not sure if I prefer it to the other phone I considered (8T, for $200 less), but I'm happy enough I'm looking forward instead of backward.
Well done Google. Now, straighten out the crap with your updates!!
Any other OPx users notice their OP-supplied charging blocks don't charge the Pixel? I have two of these. One from my OP3T and one from my OP6T. I believe them to be identical part numbers; I don't know which came with which phone as I've used them interchangeably since I got the 6T. Both charge either phone rapidly.
But, one of them slowly charges the Pixel 6, while the other just says "connected, not charging" when I plug it in. That's weird... the one that won't charge the Pixel will charge any other device, and so far all other chargers I've tried will charge the Pixel (albeit slowly).
I bought an Anker charger and an extra USBC to USBC cable, so I'm all good, I just thought this was a strange quirk and wondered if anyone else saw this.
Current OP6 user.
How "root friendly" is the Pixel6 compared to the OP6? I don't usually install custom ROMs unless for emergency purposes. Simple root + module such as Magisk, AdAway, Maxlock, XprivacyLua, YT Vanced, InstaPrefs etc. Basically modules that improves app experiences, removes ads and some battery saver while we're at it.
Software update isn't important to me as they can be easily flashed. I usually have automatic updates TURNED OFF, as having it turned on will be a mess for a rooted device.
Appreciate your feedback, if any. Thanks!
Not the most ideal fix but you could set up a Nova action --> sound setting.
kahtsin said:
Current OP6 user.
How "root friendly" is the Pixel6 compared to the OP6? I don't usually install custom ROMs unless for emergency purposes. Simple root + module such as Magisk, AdAway, Maxlock, XprivacyLua, YT Vanced, InstaPrefs etc. Basically modules that improves app experiences, removes ads and some battery saver while we're at it.
Software update isn't important to me as they can be easily flashed. I usually have automatic updates TURNED OFF, as having it turned on will be a mess for a rooted device.
Appreciate your feedback, if any. Thanks!
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As 'root friendly' as the OP6t was...if not simpler. Just follow the guides.
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As 'root friendly' as the OP6t was...if not simpler. Just follow the guides.
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Glad to hear this! BUT I am just afraid of major software issues. What I meant was in case of a major software issue like a sudden bricking etc.. at least OnePlus provides the MSMDownloadTool as the final option available...
Ah we shall see in the coming months, since the Pixel6 is still relatively new in the market and still unavailable to purchase in my country yet.
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Any other OPx users notice their OP-supplied charging blocks don't charge the Pixel? I have two of these. One from my OP3T and one from my OP6T. I believe them to be identical part numbers; I don't know which came with which phone as I've used them interchangeably since I got the 6T. Both charge either phone rapidly.
But, one of them slowly charges the Pixel 6, while the other just says "connected, not charging" when I plug it in. That's weird... the one that won't charge the Pixel will charge any other device, and so far all other chargers I've tried will charge the Pixel (albeit slowly).
I bought an Anker charger and an extra USBC to USBC cable, so I'm all good, I just thought this was a strange quirk and wondered if anyone else saw this.
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My op 3 and 6t charger, 9 pro 65w charger aren't charging my other devices as well. It charges my iPad very slowly. It appears to be connected to charger in my pixel but the battery percentage will still drop with the 9 pro charger lol. It seems to me that pd is not working on op chargers.
StiggyPlue said:
Glad to hear this! BUT I am just afraid of major software issues. What I meant was in case of a major software issue like a sudden bricking etc.. at least OnePlus provides the MSMDownloadTool as the final option available...
Ah we shall see in the coming months, since the Pixel6 is still relatively new in the market and still unavailable to purchase in my country yet.
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Pixel can usually be recovered with fastboot images if you're able to get into the bootloader as long as you have the OEM unlock switch on. You can do it easily with any Chromium based browsers.
As for the root friendly ness, it's about the same if you're not going to overclock or disable thermal throttling.
StiggyPlue said:
Glad to hear this! BUT I am just afraid of major software issues. What I meant was in case of a major software issue like a sudden bricking etc.. at least OnePlus provides the MSMDownloadTool as the final option available...
Ah we shall see in the coming months, since the Pixel6 is still relatively new in the market and still unavailable to purchase in my country yet.
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As long as the bootloader is unlocked, you can flash the factory images via fastboot. Of course, the platform tools need to be up to date and you need to be able to access the bootloader.
I'll hold my purchase of the Pixel 6 for now, until a stable recovery is released. God knows when it will be out, haha!
Thanks for the sharing yo!

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