Newbie Planning To Get Moto Z - Moto Z Questions & Answers

Hi guys, I am planning to get Moto Z and price is 200$ about. Do you think it is worth getting it now? I don't want to spend much money since it's a secondary device for me.
Also, I noticed it has many variants. Which variant is good for custom ROM, Unlock BL and Root support?
So far, I came across XT1650-05, XT1650-01, XT1650-03 etc

Ampicillin said:
Hi guys, I am planning to get Moto Z and price is 200$ about. Do you think it is worth getting it now? I don't want to spend much money since it's a secondary device for me.
Also, I noticed it has many variants. Which variant is good for custom ROM, Unlock BL and Root support?
So far, I came across XT1650-05, XT1650-01, XT1650-03 etc
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It`s the same phone. Difference is the software update channel. 05 - China, 03 - EU and USA. Maybe some little changes in frequency, but HW the same.
Just try some google, man.
Also moto z in 2018? In the end of its lifecycle? Meh.

Ampicillin said:
Hi guys, I am planning to get Moto Z and price is 200$ about. Do you think it is worth getting it now? I don't want to spend much money since it's a secondary device for me.
Also, I noticed it has many variants. Which variant is good for custom ROM, Unlock BL and Root support?
So far, I came across XT1650-05, XT1650-01, XT1650-03 etc
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Same camera as that Nexus 6 of yours there.
New or used? If it's used you might wanna get a battery replacement for it, the Nougat 7.0 update kinda overstressed the battery
I'd get the G5+ or G5S, TBH (better battery life with Snapdragon 625)

Defaultnickname said:
It`s the same phone. Difference is the software update channel. 05 - China, 03 - EU and USA. Maybe some little changes in frequency, but HW the same.
Just try some google, man.
Also moto z in 2018? In the end of its lifecycle? Meh.
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Thanks mate,
I just sold my Nexus 6 and looking for a replacement as a secondary device. I came across Moto Z, LGV20, HTC 10, Honor 8, Nexus 6P. I do not want to spend more than 200-230$ and I merely keep my secondary device for 6-9 months.
I am getting a good deal if I get XT1650-01 and I believe it is verizon model but what I came to know is that it cannot unlock BL and root. I usually customize my phones.

41LY45 said:
Same camera as that Nexus 6 of yours there.
New or used? If it's used you might wanna get a battery replacement for it, the Nougat 7.0 update kinda overstressed the battery
I'd get the G5+ or G5S, TBH (better battery life with Snapdragon 625)
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It's brand new if I get Verizon variant. I am not into photography that much. I am looking for a better Snapdragon processor with the good amount of RAM so that it still holds resell value in the future. If I opt for a mid-range device like Xiaomi or Huawei I am getting a good deal in 200$ but then it would not hold much resell values after 6-9 months.
PS. I see that you Malaysian too

Ampicillin said:
Thanks mate,
I just sold my Nexus 6 and looking for a replacement as a secondary device. I came across Moto Z, LGV20, HTC 10, Honor 8, Nexus 6P. I do not want to spend more than 200-230$ and I merely keep my secondary device for 6-9 months.
I am getting a good deal if I get XT1650-01 and I believe it is verizon model but what I came to know is that it cannot unlock BL and root. I usually customize my phones.
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Sorry, don`t know about Verizon`s bootloader. But I can install verizons FW on my 05. Look at the thread [How to unlock bootloader]

Defaultnickname said:
Sorry, don`t know about Verizon`s bootloader. But I can install verizons FW on my 05. Look at the thread [How to unlock bootloader]
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Okay, I will check it out :good:

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Note 5 or Note 5 pro?

The only notable difference between the two devices seems to be the camera and processor. Camera isn't a concern for me cause I don't use it much but processor and developer support (read custom rom support) is very essential. So which one shall I buy?
stealthinator16 said:
The only notable difference between the two devices seems to be the camera and processor. Camera isn't a concern for me cause I don't use it much but processor and developer support (read custom rom support) is very essential. So which one shall I buy?
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If you can, you should just go directly for the 5 Pro, but stocks will be hard to come by for the coming months as it is kinda hot right now. The Note 5 does everything and isn't slow, but the 5 pro does it much better with the upgraded processor. Mostly the hardcore users would notice the performance difference from both. For day to day use, both do them quite well, as well as battery life.
Also. Even if you don't use the camera much, it will still provide better pictures for the times that you use them.
Custom Rom support would be good for this device as most Redmi users that look for an upgrade would buy this phone, chances are developers would join in too.
Overall, the 5 Pro is superior in some aspects, but the 5 Plus isn't something to scoff at either. It would depend on whether you think the upgrade is right for the price as both do quite well with their arsenal of specifications.
Domanshi said:
Custom Rom support would be good for this device as most Redmi users that look for an upgrade would buy this phone, chances are developers would join in too.
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ROMs for Note 5 are already out while development of Note 5 Pro hadn't started the last time I checked.
Anyways I have decided to buy Note 5 Pro. I'll try my hand at porting RR if nobody else does
stealthinator16 said:
ROMs for Note 5 are already out while development of Note 5 Pro hadn't started the last time I checked.
Anyways I have decided to buy Note 5 Pro. I'll try my hand at porting RR if nobody else does
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That's probably due to the fact that the Note 5 AKA 5 Plus has been out for a month longer before the Pro, but I'm pretty sure the Pro will catch up to the Rom supports.
Also, enjoy the 5 Pro. If only I knew they would release the 5 Pro, I would've waited, but sadly my z00a gave up on me so I had to buy the 5 Plus rather hastily.
Domanshi said:
If only I knew they would release the 5 Pro, I would've waited, but sadly my z00a gave up on me so I had to buy the 5 Plus rather hastily.
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Which variant do you have?
stealthinator16 said:
Which variant do you have?
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I have the 5 Plus 4/64. It's an upgrade from my z00a and I have no complaints, but the 5 Pro is just better overall.
Domanshi said:
I have the 5 Plus 4/64. It's an upgrade from my z00a and I have no complaints, but the 5 Pro is just better overall.
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Do you live in China? It's called 5 Plus only in China maybe.
I'm just waiting for my exams to finish so I can get a new 5 Pro!
stealthinator16 said:
Do you live in China? It's called 5 Plus only in China maybe.
I'm just waiting for my exams to finish so I can get a new 5 Pro!
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No, I'm from PH actually. There are a lot of resellers locally and online, although ours here orders them from China directly through a supplier.It was pre installed with the fake global rom but Bootloader was unlocked so I was able to flash the EU rom.
You'd be lucky if you can buy it right now since it usually ends up out of stock. But maybe it was just in India.
Domanshi said:
No, I'm from PH actually. There are a lot of resellers locally and online, although ours here orders them from China directly through a supplier.It was pre installed with the fake global rom but Bootloader was unlocked so I was able to flash the EU rom.
You'd be lucky if you can buy it right now since it usually ends up out of stock. But maybe it was just in India.
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Already unlocked bootloader?! I guess the reseller did it?
Here in India we have flash sales every other week or so. Stocks last for 5-10 minutes. So in April I'll find the date and be ready at the specified time.
stealthinator16 said:
Already unlocked bootloader?! I guess the reseller did it?
Here in India we have flash sales every other week or so. Stocks last for 5-10 minutes. So in April I'll find the date and be ready at the specified time.
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Most probably, since they have to install the Vendor rom which, AFAIK, would update itself automatically to the global version when it officially releases.
Well, that's good since it's an India first phone release, units would be high per restock there. Hope you get yours bud.
Domanshi said:
Most probably, since they have to install the Vendor rom which, AFAIK, would update itself automatically to the global version when it officially releases.
Well, that's good since it's an India first phone release, units would be high per restock there. Hope you get yours bud.
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Thanks man.
Hey guys
How can I know if my note 5 is pro or plus, China or India?
Thanks
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Fulmics 5.5 + mk2000 kernel - luigi's mansion.. G5 very powerful in 2019

test link: https://youtu.be/v-uESaz-15o
CONFIG: LG G5 H830 SNAPDRAGON 820 4GB RAM DDR4.
ROM: ANDROID 7.0 - FULMICS 5.5 + MK2000 KERNEL.
sedrake said:
test link: https://youtu.be/v-uESaz-15o
CONFIG: LG G5 H830 SNAPDRAGON 820 4GB RAM DDR4.
ROM: ANDROID 7.0 - FULMICS 5.5 + MK2000 KERNEL.
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I'm back. ???. I ended up getting a h830 today. Mint condition. Works good. Needs a new battery. Already unlocked the bootloader. Will be flashing to try. I run fulmics on my g3 and maybe even in My g2. Been a while. Gonna downgrade I guess to get twrp and root. I had a sprint and Verizon g5 back when no root was available. Don't know if it is yet depending on how well the battery holds up on downgrade. I may flash this very soon just for trial
Been stuck on Samsung for the most part. Getting annoyed with my s8. I got like 10 phones laying around and my s8 can be rooted. But my mate se is the only one bootloader unlockable
TheMadScientist said:
I'm back. . I ended up getting a h830 today. Mint condition. Works good. Needs a new battery. Already unlocked the bootloader. Will be flashing to try. I run fulmics on my g3 and maybe even in My g2. Been a while. Gonna downgrade I guess to get twrp and root. I had a sprint and Verizon g5 back when no root was available. Don't know if it is yet depending on how well the battery holds up on downgrade. I may flash this very soon just for trial
Been stuck on Samsung for the most part. Getting annoyed with my s8. I got like 10 phones laying around and my s8 can be rooted. But my mate se is the only one bootloader unlockable
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LG g5 h830 is a awesome smartphone.. the screen with correct KCAL settings via kernel ADIUTOR, is great.. 550ppi is a very awesome screen and very comfortable. snapdragon 820 is old, but still a incredible Qualcomm SoC
TheMadScientist said:
I'm back. . I ended up getting a h830 today. Mint condition. Works good. Needs a new battery. Already unlocked the bootloader. Will be flashing to try. I run fulmics on my g3 and maybe even in My g2. Been a while. Gonna downgrade I guess to get twrp and root. I had a sprint and Verizon g5 back when no root was available. Don't know if it is yet depending on how well the battery holds up on downgrade. I may flash this very soon just for trial
Been stuck on Samsung for the most part. Getting annoyed with my s8. I got like 10 phones laying around and my s8 can be rooted. But my mate se is the only one bootloader unlockable
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take a look on LG g5 h830 with some mods, running resident evil remake HD 720p.. very smoothly and beautiful ( https://youtu.be/85LdT5D267w )
sedrake said:
LG g5 h830 is a awesome smartphone.. the screen with correct KCAL settings via kernel ADIUTOR, is great.. 550ppi is a very awesome screen and very comfortable. snapdragon 820 is old, but still a incredible Qualcomm SoC
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Kcal is working perfect for me I got a lucky g5 my GPS works. My last 2 g5s neither GPS worked. The new battery getting me about 5 hours sot. But kcal makes or breaks mine has a horrible ghosting problem. But auditer and kcal 100 fix this. I bought a oppo clone Helio p80 supposedly off wish. But if it's a decent clone. I'm ditching my s8s and running the g5 and knock off as dailyz. I got a v40 unlocked bootloader but it needs a screen so I'm gonna wait for the v60 so the frame and lcd come down a bit on price
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sedrake said:
take a look on LG g5 h830 with some mods, running resident evil remake HD 720p.. very smoothly and beautiful ( https://youtu.be/85LdT5D267w )
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That's cool. I do most of my gaming on my PS4 or psvr. A bit of remote play on my 10 inch Sammy tablet. As long as I'm near the house I even got ds4 support

SUGGESTION: Best cheap android phone with custom rom and working camera+radios

Hi All,
I'm an engineer looking to upgrade a product which uses an old Altel smartphone. I'm experienced in Unlocking and flashing. I have already done a search, but now in 2020, there may be new info.
Looking for suggestions for the best CHEAP android phone which has good custom ROM support for android 7+ (ish).
I need to use the back camera, and connect via wifi, bluetooth, or Cellular Data. It will be tested in the US, but may benefit from support for many globally common 3g and 4g bands.
One last thing. Would love to find something I can still buy a few dozen of NEW, or at least MFG REFURB.
Can anyone suggest suitable phones? So far, been considering late nexus line and early pixel line, knowing they're flash unlockable.
Thank you for reading! Apologies if I hit the wrong section of the forum.
bizzzle said:
Hi All,
I'm an engineer looking to upgrade a product which uses an old Altel smartphone. I'm experienced in Unlocking and flashing. I have already done a search, but now in 2020, there may be new info.
Looking for suggestions for the best CHEAP android phone which has good custom ROM support for android 7+ (ish).
I need to use the back camera, and connect via wifi, bluetooth, or Cellular Data. It will be tested in the US, but may benefit from support for many globally common 3g and 4g bands.
One last thing. Would love to find something I can still buy a few dozen of NEW, or at least MFG REFURB.
Can anyone suggest suitable phones? So far, been considering late nexus line and early pixel line, knowing they're flash unlockable.
Thank you for reading! Apologies if I hit the wrong section of the forum.
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There are no *NEW* cheap phones that have custom ROM support unfortunately. But used phone are an option : ) If you want official ROM support (Even to this day!), you can get a Samsung Galaxy S4 for 50$, an S5, Note 3 (Android 9 - 10 support!).
If you want a used phone at 100-150$, you can get a A5 2017, Google Pixel 1, Nexus 6 (Don't buy the 6p)
If you want to get a Brand new phone: Moto G7 and G6 Plus (200-250$). (Theese phones have a more complicated process of modding)
You can check the Lineage OS download Page here: https://download.lineageos.org/ Theese are all of the supported devices.
If you don't want to have any difficulties, you can get a Samsung but be careful with the variants! Get the international or Canadian variant because if you get a US variant, there are no methods of unlocking the device (except for the S5 and less) You can also get the Google Pixel, but do not buy the US variant. Same for the nexus devices...
Your knowledge and help are much appreciated.
Can you offer advice on USB OTG Compatibility with various phones on Lineage? I've had mixed results in the past with stock ROMs.
alexenferman said:
There are no *NEW* cheap phones that have custom ROM support unfortunately. But used phone are an option : ) If you want official ROM support (Even to this day!), you can get a Samsung Galaxy S4 for 50$, an S5, Note 3 (Android 9 - 10 support!).
If you want a used phone at 100-150$, you can get a A5 2017, Google Pixel 1, Nexus 6 (Don't buy the 6p)
If you want to get a Brand new phone: Moto G7 and G6 Plus (200-250$). (Theese phones have a more complicated process of modding)
You can check the Lineage OS download Page here: https://download.lineageos.org/ Theese are all of the supported devices.
If you don't want to have any difficulties, you can get a Samsung but be careful with the variants! Get the international or Canadian variant because if you get a US variant, there are no methods of unlocking the device (except for the S5 and less) You can also get the Google Pixel, but do not buy the US variant. Same for the nexus devices...
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bizzzle said:
Your knowledge and help are much appreciated.
Can you offer advice on USB OTG Compatibility with various phones on Lineage? I've had mixed results in the past with stock ROMs.
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All of the phones I mentioned have OTG capability
Probably almost all phone supported by lineage have OTG. Don't worry about that.
bizzzle said:
Hi All,
I'm an engineer looking to upgrade a product which uses an old Altel smartphone. I'm experienced in Unlocking and flashing. I have already done a search, but now in 2020, there may be new info.
Looking for suggestions for the best CHEAP android phone which has good custom ROM support for android 7+ (ish).
I need to use the back camera, and connect via wifi, bluetooth, or Cellular Data. It will be tested in the US, but may benefit from support for many globally common 3g and 4g bands.
One last thing. Would love to find something I can still buy a few dozen of NEW, or at least MFG REFURB.
Can anyone suggest suitable phones? So far, been considering late nexus line and early pixel line, knowing they're flash unlockable.
Thank you for reading! Apologies if I hit the wrong section of the forum.
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I have 2 Samsung Galaxy S3 ( circa 2012 ) and while they are far from new, they are great phones to play around with.
I am far from experienced, but I have enjoyed flashing Custom ROM's , from CyanogenMod, thru various versions of Lineage, and now CrDroid. The newest O/S that I flashed is CrDroid 3.8.9 ( based on Android 7.1.2 - I think! ). Runs great. Stable. Long battery life. Ran ( 'right out of the box' ) without any need to install Gapps.
The nice thing is the Samsung Galaxy S3 is so darn abundant. Seems that everybody has one collecting dust in a drawer. And that means they are cheap ( as in give it away ). All the Samsung Galaxy S3 came with unlocked bootloader ( I think that is the term ) except for the Verizon model.
Icing on the cake is, a fellow from Montreal, alexenferman, is the genious authour of the CrDroid Custom ROM.

Question Will there be a aosp custom rom for the realme gt 2 pro?

Just thinking about buying the gt2 pro but currently using the F3 with a huge development support. Will be there in the future, this phone had a custom aosp roms?
google experience is working
This is also a huge question for me. I'm stuck on a S21+ now which, being a Samsung, obviously has no development. I want a phone that will actually have some custom ROMs like the OnePlus 10 Pro probably will. However, the GT2 Pro is just a cheaper OP10P with a much prettier design so yeah.. I hope and pray the GT2 Pro gets custom ROM's and some dedicated devs.
You'd better forget that. It's Realme, not Oneplus. I'm interested in this phone too but this company is not doing right. And as Realme, OnePlus and Oppo are all the same, I fear the worst for the future.
You can't unlock bootloader, only chinese version
Any company, even RealMe can be persuaded by public opinion if there is enough.
Linuxkek said:
You can't unlock bootloader, only chinese version
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for now
Linuxkek said:
You can't unlock bootloader, only chinese version
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Bootloader is unlockable for all versions now. I think it's just a matter of time until we get an AOSP rom.
themagicalmage22 said:
Bootloader is unlockable for all versions now. I think it's just a matter of time until we get an AOSP rom.
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I need to pay about 700 bucks for that device now, from 619€ and 639€ with watch and tablet. Strange but now I will wait for next gen
9 months later and still no custom roms?
napo6282 said:
9 miesięcy później i nadal nie ma custom romów?
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Dokładnie
Now that the device is about 350€ we might get some love... Also bootloader can be opened...
ColorOS is not bad at all but lacks A LOT of optimization and bug fixes...

General [Info] OnePlus Nord N20 5G

See:
OnePlus doubles down on the affordable 5G smartphone segment with the new Nord N20 5G
OnePlus is betting big on the affordable 5G smartphone segment with the new OnePlus Nord N20 5G. Read on to learn more about the device.
www.xda-developers.com
It has headphones jack
No way to unlock it yet?
kudabee61 said:
No way to unlock it yet?
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For T-Mobile version, you need to SIM unlock first even it's not related.
That's all there is no there carrier sells it the Nord 10 I have is good but time to upgrade and won't be the n20 the way it looks
The nord n20 5g is the exact same phone as the nord ce 2 lite but different size screen/body style probably some other minor differences.
Actually don't think I had to sim unlock but ran the script used in previous versions anyways
ScarletWizard said:
i am not sim unlock and was able to unlock bootloader
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Ok, did you also manage to root and put a custom rom? I cannot find any online...
ScarletWizard said:
There is no custom rom
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Random bar talk now, but do you think that ROM community for this phone will grow? I am considering to buy it ...
ScarletWizard said:
I don't drink. But I do geek out at the comic book store.,
Root and custom rom aside. This phone the N20 in my opinion is the best phone in its price range. The only other phone on t mobile I would consider is the moto G 5G 2022. But I'm not a fan of Motorola. I had plenty of motos and they all died a common death. The charge port becomes defected.
I had the n10, n100 And the N200. I'm hooked. I like oneplus..
Currently I've only found one rom that works
The lineage Gsi. This phone can be unlocked and rooted. And virtually brick proof. However this phone is not even listed on the oneplus website.. So no OEM blessings.
This phone is only 7 months old. A twrp is in the oven.
I say yes this phone is worth it. In my opinion the n20" is the pixel 6 - Ai
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Yes, I do know that is the best in its segment, I read the review from XDA about best mobiles in 2022... Unfortunately, I am not a native speaker and I feel that I lost part of your content in the first line, if it was not just humour and the part about 1 working rom for this device.
I am addicted to custom roms phone in the last 10 years and there is where it comes my question if this good device will have one Lineage or Pixel Experience rom at all... My Poco F1 is slowly requesting pension to me. I am looking for a decent (not necessary top) mobile with squared apperance (not too long and narrow like new design) that has custom roms support. IPxx is welcome also. The other device I am watching is NOthing phone that stands a bit above my budget of less than 350 EUR / 400 USD)
ScarletWizard said:
I don't drink. But I do geek out at the comic book store.,
Root and custom rom aside. This phone the N20 in my opinion is the best phone in its price range. The only other phone on t mobile I would consider is the moto G 5G 2022. But I'm not a fan of Motorola. I had plenty of motos and they all died a common death. The charge port becomes defected.
I had the n10, n100 And the N200. I'm hooked. I like oneplus..
Currently I've only found one rom that works
The lineage Gsi. This phone can be unlocked and rooted. And virtually brick proof. However this phone is not even listed on the oneplus website.. So no OEM blessings.
This phone is only 7 months old. A twrp is in the oven.
I say yes this phone is worth it. In my opinion the n20" is the pixel 6 - Ai
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I bought a prepaid Samsung Galaxy A53 ($259, but it's $199 now) after I bought the Nord N20. At first I thought the A53 was laggy and the N20 did circles around it, but after some updates I feel the A53 is a better candidate for budget device of the year (if you get it discounted on a carrier). The screen is punchier, stereo speakers are on par with my iPhone 13 too. No headphone jack though...
Anyway, about the Lineage GSI for the N20 - how does it run, buggy, ok? I don't see much about custom ROMS on here for this phone which is surprising. It is a great phone, just bored with it.
ScarletWizard said:
R u bored? I got something for u to do. Port the Android 12 to gn2200
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Oh I'm only good at following guides and such, I have no idea about how to dev. But I am interested in trying the lineage GSI, which you mentioned was the only ROM that actually works on the N20. I'm just unsure of what build and how exactly to do it, don't see a whole lot of instruction other than a few posts that you made. The terms GSI & DSU, and A/B slots are new to me; I've been out of the loop since Windows phone and Galaxy s9.
Wow! I am surprised to read that the N20 has no dev work so far! It's a very nice phone for the price. I have the opportunity to get one basically for free, but I think I'll go with a N200 instead. Even though it has worse hardware it has much better community support.
ScarletWizard said:
Ya the n20 is not getting much Love from the devs nor from OnePlus itself. I miss the old days when budget devices had a strong dev community. But google snatched up the talent and took away our Devs.
The Dev community of n20 is only us. I made a telegram channel for our device. You please Join in it
R u bored? I got something for u to do. Port the Android 12 to gn2200
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What is said Telegram channel?
benevolentjedi said:
What is said Telegram channel?
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same question here
OnePlus Nord N20 | Official
You can view and join @oneplusnordn20 right away.
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amomp3 said:
same question here
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OnePlus N20 Root
OnePlus n20 help and Root and more.
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