The Honor View 10 comes with the Kirin 970 NPU which powers the AI system that is used in the camera. Thirteen different types of scenes and objects can be recognized instantly, so your camera app can quickly adjust the settings to fit the scene.
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Honor is once again looking to learn from the community to help improve their products. Now is your chance to let them know what new scene you would like to see added to the AI camera.
For Honor View 10 Users: Leave a comment with a photo taken from your View 10, using one of the existing scenes. Then let us know what type of scene you'd like to see added to the mix.
For everyone else: Just comment which scene you'd like to see get added.
Currently, Honor's AI camera supports the following scenes:
Blue Sky
Flower
Plant
Beach
Sunset/Sunrise
Performace
Food
Text
Nightscape
Snow
Cat
Dog
Portrait
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I live next to a forrest so a forrest scene would be awesome!
I'd like to see a macro scene that lets you get super close up and capture a ton of fine detail
Rain scene!
With good detail of raindrops and the view/sybject of the picture [emoji14]
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What would we use for sports? Live entertainment? Boxing, formula 1, football, etc.?
Maybe performance?
How about a built in document scanner, automatically crops and leaves just the document or card, etc.
Indoor lighting would be great. Most of us take indoor photos and they tend to go wrong with the white balance, Exposure, the color balance and smoothening.
It isn't exactly low light or night photo as there is a light source, but the camera needs to adjust itself to take natural looking pictures.
Scene suggestions for the AI that I can offer include rain (if it can do snow, it can surely do rain), low light, sports, landscape and macro.
The other advice I have, is as follows. The modified Google Camera apk that runs on most Snapdragon devices is available online. Huawei should spend their resources analysing that, and extracting the features such as portrait mode with a single camera and HDR+, both of which enhance the photo quality marginally... Since most people who own phones do not know about the modified Google Camera, offering such great picture quality at a budget price would be a sure sell. I know the second, and kinda dominating part of my answer is completely different from what was asked to us, but if Huawei does read my answer, I'm sure it'll be a little bit helpful.
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What would we use for sports? Live entertainment? Boxing, formula 1, football, etc.?
Maybe performance?
How about a built in document scanner, automatically crops and leaves just the document or card, etc.
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There's already a built in doc scanner in the camera app [emoji14]
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A built in camera scanner, like the app CamScanner. That would be cool.
Could you toss in a feature to downgrade the camera's performance when a One Plus phone is detected nearby? I wouldn't want my friends who own them to realize they had chosen to settle for less.
Not a scene recognition, but something that the Kirin 970 is capable of - Portrait / bokeh mode in videos by live tracking the subject.
I know it can be implemented as it is featured in Huawei's mate 10 pro. Hope you can bring this feature to the view 10
An Aquarium mode to photograph fishes or other indoor aquarium scenery. Foliage mode too for garden, forest or any plants that cranks the vivid colors.
Electronic Image Stabilization (EIS) is urgently needed for Honor View 10.
I like ai camera
I really like going to the nightclub to watch the concert. My dream is to go to Ultra Miami, so I hope I can go there one day and listen to HARDWELL and then take a selfie with him. I want to increase the concert mode and nightclub mode.
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What would we use for sports? Live entertainment? Boxing, formula 1, football, etc.?
Maybe performance?
How about a built in document scanner, automatically crops and leaves just the document or card, etc.
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Document scanner already available in default camera. Just swipe from right abd select document mode. :good:
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Could you toss in a feature to downgrade the camera's performance when a One Plus phone is detected nearby? I wouldn't want my friends who own them to realize they had chosen to settle for less.
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Haha good one ?
Indoor mode, which can actually optimize florescent light, bulbs, LEDs etc. without compromising the actually light on the subject would be great! A portrait mode that detects multiple faces and then give shallow depth of field on the rest of the background!
I Rain mode would be nice addition ?️?️
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I would like to see perfect adjustments during low light situations also there should be an ability to automatically enable EIS when the phone is shaking a good amount
Thanks!
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True . Low light capability is really low and Auto adjustments are much appreciated.
I would like to "Auto HDR" mode or scene recognition in the camera.
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And the next one. Beautify almost sucks like anything and applies all effects it does had. Each has a different face and applying all would messup. For thin faces it is making the face more thinner. If it could adjust this settings it will be a point in good improvements.
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Thought people might be interested in knowing I've started a Flickr group for the Lumia 800.
http://www.flickr.com/groups/[email protected]/
Would love to see what others have been able to capture with the nifty little camera on our phones
I just joined the group... will try to upload photos taken by my lumia 800...
Anyone has red tint on photo taken using Lumia 800?
Mine has it when the ambient light is not strong...
i have tinted photos as well. the auto color balance is horrible. all pictures are sepia-ish
like that, i will join you too
Thanks!!
Just joined group but haven't posted yet. I've had my Lumia a whopping 48 hours at this point and haven't had a chance to really wring out the camera yet.
Hope to rectify that this weekend.
Don't see what all the complaints are about. Has more settings than my HD7 did - and all the additions are useful (I love the exposure setting). Shutter response is identical to any smartphone camera I've had before.
As far as photo color - maybe I'm jaded, but I don't think ANY smartphone camera is all that great. The HD7 surprised me because being mediocre in almost all other respects, the camera was pretty good. To me, these cameras will never replace a decent 35mm; they're a step above a Kodak Instamatic or typical 35mm disposable in my opinion. I think it's pretty much mandatory with phone cameras to have something like PicturesLab or Thumba to tart up the pictures a bit and have them looking decent.
Cheers,
Maybe after altering a few settings like white balance, you can make it behave well. But out of the box at default settings the Lumia800 is not surprisingly good.
just a reminder of 4 years ago where the Nokia N95 could deliver images comparable to a reasonably good point and shoot camera
My first real photo on the Lumia.. no editing..
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I did a test in ambient light this evening.
I have the following preliminary conclusions:
A. Picture quality seems okay looking at the results on the phone itself
B. Contrast and saturation settings together are so agressive that you need these set to default in order to get a decent picture
C. Yes, the red burn on photos is clearly there.
D. Auto white balance is a disaster as well as the manual settings. These are way too agressive too. If these would be applied at fifty percent would be much better.
picture of apollo15rover shows the agressive auto settings. Very high contrast as shades are very dark, the grass seems too dark green, and the bright is overburnt. that it is done by the camera settings..I recognize this too in my own photos taken with the lumia.
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I did a test in ambient light this evening.
I have the following preliminary conclusions:
A. Picture quality seems okay looking at the results on the phone itself
B. Contrast and saturation settings together are so agressive that you need these set to default in order to get a decent picture
C. Yes, the red burn on photos is clearly there.
D. Auto white balance is a disaster as well as the manual settings. These are way too agressive too. If these would be applied at fifty percent would be much better.
picture of apollo15rover shows the agressive auto settings. Very high contrast as shades are very dark, the grass seems too dark green, and the bright is overburnt. that it is done by the camera settings..I recognize this too in my own photos taken with the lumia.
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I agree with all.. but still pretty happy the way this turned out.. Clarity and detail aren't lacking. I took with Macro focus (had not discovered macro scene yet)
I did try to take a couple with one notch up on saturation and it might as well have been solarized!
On a positive note I found something that has not been on any smartphone I have had in the past: Macro Scene PLUS Macro Focus - so I can now take low depth of field shots!
Here's another unedited photo..
All settings normal/auto except I lowered Contrast and Saturation 1 notch to "Low" each.. To me it's a bit washed out, but more easy to correct in photo program than trying to go the other way..
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I did a test in ambient light this evening.
I have the following preliminary conclusions:
C. Yes, the red burn on photos is clearly there.
D .
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Recently tried to shoot some lighter color subjects and now also noticing the red burn in the middle.. Anyone discover the trick of getting rid of it?
Edit.. Must be in the white balance. Doesn't appear on outdoor photos. Also, I re-shot the interior photo with the burn using flash, and the burn was completely eliminated. Not too happy being a fan of natural light photography..
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USA is a beautiful country
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Why, cause we're not covered in ice right now?
You have an interesting shape of the surface
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My first real photo on the Lumia.. no editing..
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For a phone that's out of this world. For a point and shoot its perfect.
A small test-image i took with the default settings (apart from the mode [set to macro] and the flash [i had to disable it]). The focus should be on the third black key.
Hey guys, many of us have received this great device already, now it's time to show how great (or not so great) pictures this device can make!
It could also help other people make their choice whether to buy it or not.
Please do not upload the image on XDA itself, but rather use a site like imgur, tinypic, imageshack, imagevenue to upload your pictures.
When you upload the images on XDA itself we won't be able to see the image in it's full glory, because the images are being compressed, hence losing their quality.
Thank you.
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Ok so I went out to take some pictures on one of the last few warm and sunny days of this year:
I first made some macro shots in the garden (I used a macro lens)
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Next I drove around town to make some pictures, all in manual mode 20.7 MP and 8MP all 4:3 ratio.
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I forgot 2 pictures that I made with backgrounddefocus:
As far as the camera goes... is it as good as it should be with that high a resolution? Probably not. Is it better than most smartphones? Yes. Is it the best? Probably not, but it will definitely do the job for any of the poor souls (like myself) coming from a Moto X.
Not bad at night, although noise reduction is crazily heavy-handed, as I've come to expect from Sony.
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I forgot 2 pictures that I made with backgrounddefocus:
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Strangely the bokeh effect in those pictures makes it looks as if the picture is sunken into my monitor, kind of like a 3D effect.
I've not had that effect so strongly with other bokehs. :cyclops:
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Not bad at night, although noise reduction is crazily heavy-handed, as I've come to expect from Sony.
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Not bad at all (I shudder to think what pic the Moto X would have produced haha). What settings did you use for that shot? Auto? Manual? 8MP? 15 or 20MP?
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Not bad at all (I shudder to think what pic the Moto X would have produced haha). What settings did you use for that shot? Auto? Manual? 8MP? 15 or 20MP?
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IIRC, auto at 8MP.
Honestly, though, Sony really needs to get a grip on their JPEG processing and/or allow RAW output. I don't question that this is among the best sensors in a mobile phone out there, but I miss Nokia's much better processing algorithms.
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IIRC, auto at 8MP.
Honestly, though, Sony really needs to get a grip on their JPEG processing and/or allow RAW output. I don't question that this is among the best sensors in a mobile phone out there, but I miss Nokia's much better processing algorithms.
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I'm not a photo expert or anything AT ALL!
But that's the complaint I've been hearing most of the time. Sony is one of the leaders when it comes to DSLR's and Compact camera's, but yet their Android software is lacking some things.
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I'm not a photo expert or anything AT ALL!
But that's the complaint I've been hearing most of the time. Sony is one of the leaders when it comes to DSLR's and Compact camera's, but yet their Android software is lacking some things.
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Their JPEG processing for their Alpha cameras isn't too good, either, which was just one more reason for me to just shoot in RAW when I had a NEX.
They are not artistic shots, but I found it after my iPhone session. For me looks pretty good as taken by phone camera.
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Very lovely pictures I'd say!
What country is that?
@Dsteppa please check pm
20.7 or 8 mpx?
What settings are u using? I tried lots of different combinations and cant find anything that looks great. Photos arent as sharp as I'd like.
Lyme Regis, Dorset, England. 8mp 16:9 SA
Lyme Regis, Dorset, England. 8mp 16:9 SA
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I hate when people come from Dorset ... Only because it makes me jealous lol ... I've had a lot of great holidays in Swanage.
Here's a few pictures I took, nothing special, subject wise (other than my dog ) but I was happy with the quality:
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As far as the camera goes... is it as good as it should be with that high a resolution? Probably not. Is it better than most smartphones? Yes. Is it the best? Probably not, but it will definitely do the job for any of the poor souls (like myself) coming from a Moto X.
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I'm pretty sure that I've read every review and comparison review of the Z3 camera. My conclusion is that the Z3c has the best camera for a phone it's size (except iPhone 6 which probably edges it out slightly). Expanding the comparison to larger phones, the Z3 camera is comparable to the S5, which has a very well reviewed camera. Each has strengths and weaknesses but end up as a tie overall. For someone who is very into photography though, the Z3 does offer more control, if desired, than the S5, so the photographer will likely prefer the Z3.
That's my summary from having looked at tons of reviews and comparisons and is consistent with the findings of dxomark: http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Sony-Xperia-Z3-New-Sony-flagship-Smartphone-tested
With that said, this comparison review does a good job of showing the weaknesses of the Z3 vs the best the Windows Phone has to offer.
http://allaboutwindowsphone.com/features/item/20150_Camera_head_to_head_Lumia_9301.php
The DxoMark scores for the phone cameras are actually quite close, still with the edge to the Z3 overall though. The Lumia video abilities really drop their combined score though.
As long as you're expectations are reasonable (this is still a phone not a DSLR) I think you'll be happy with the Z3c, I have been so far. It's among the best cameras currently available in a phone
Wow. I need more photos sample and reviews. Please!!!
In my experience, the stock camera's HDR+ mode works great for suppressing noise in low-light pics, but doesn't really do much for actual high dynamic range scenes.
In a typical dark foreground/sunny background situation, my (2014) Moto X used to do a great job keeping the highlights from overexposing and bringing up the dark parts of the scene. My 6P, on the other hand, using the stock Google camera with HDR+ active, barely seems to do anything in this respect. Sunny skies are still blown out, faces in the foreground almost black. I'm not looking for an overprocessed HDR "effect", but this seems a little too subtle.
I just want to make sure this isn't a problem specific to my device, so: anyone else seeing the same thing?
Edit -- I tried a couple of dedicated HDR apps from the Play Store but they all say that the 6P lacks exposure mode so they can't do the bracketing needed for true HDR.
I feel the same. Compared to the LG G4 I had before, HDR on 6P barely does anything.
Maybe its my old eyes, but I can't noticed a real difference either.
Thanks folks. So it isn't just me.
Maybe "HDR" is just a poorly chosen name for this feature. Like I said, for noisy low-light pics it works really well. Just look closely while it's still processing: shortly after it finishes, you can see the noisy version being replaced with much cleaner picture. But apparently it's not optimized for high-contrast scenes.
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Actually it works really well. Here's why: it saves you from blowing your highlights. It doesn't do much for shadows, however it gives you a very clean image where your able to boost the shadows to your liking and the image remains clean. It stays away from that garbage fake "HDR" look that most apps create.
Also! Proshot does exposure bracketing very well. Here is a screenshot of how to setup the settings for it to work. Use these settings and you'll be fine.
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Hey, thanks.
What got me doubting was an example in the article where Google introduced the feature, here. In the second example (the landscape with the two girls in the foreground), the difference is quite pronounced. The image on the right, shot with HDR+ on, has a fully defined sky with visible clouds etc.
But I've shot images with HDR+ on that looked a lot more like the blown-out comparison shot on the left, with large highlight zones with no detail captured at all. Could be I was asking too much of it on those occasions, I'm not sure. I'll experiment a little more and try and get some examples.
ProShot is great, thanks for the tip, just bought the full version!
Hi, I've been struggling with HDR apps on the 6P thanks to the exposure compensation bug (https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=196815) and was hoping your Pro Shot setting might help. When I tried it I got three photos, but two were at the same exposure, while the third was much much brighter. It also doesn't seem to merge them together automatically.
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Hi, I've been struggling with HDR apps on the 6P thanks to the exposure compensation bug (https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=196815) and was hoping your Pro Shot setting might help. When I tried it I got three photos, but two were at the same exposure, while the third was much much brighter. It also doesn't seem to merge them together automatically.
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Instead of using SPD4 use SPD1.
Also, proshot doesn't merge them for you. You have to do that yourself.
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Instead of using SPD4 use SPD1.
Also, proshot doesn't merge them for you. You have to do that yourself.
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Thanks, that did the trick! Good to know about the merging, much appreciated.
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Thanks, that did the trick! Good to know about the merging, much appreciated.
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No problem. Enjoy!
Noup, you're not the only one I usually have to choose between having blowed out skies or having people underexposed ...
I just switched to my 6P from an LG G4. While I liked the HDR on the camera, I feel the 6P produces a better image overall. Much less sharpening/watercolor look to the 6P photos. The LG's started to look like fake watercolors when you view them on anything but the phone, unless the light was absolutely perfect, which it rarely was.
But with that said, HDR seems to be terrible on this phone with the stock app, in my limited experience.
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In my experience, the stock camera's HDR+ mode works great for suppressing noise in low-light pics, but doesn't really do much for actual high dynamic range scenes.
In a typical dark foreground/sunny background situation, my (2014) Moto X used to do a great job keeping the highlights from overexposing and bringing up the dark parts of the scene. My 6P, on the other hand, using the stock Google camera with HDR+ active, barely seems to do anything in this respect. Sunny skies are still blown out, faces in the foreground almost black. I'm not looking for an overprocessed HDR "effect", but this seems a little too subtle.
I just want to make sure this isn't a problem specific to my device, so: anyone else seeing the same thing?
Edit -- I tried a couple of dedicated HDR apps from the Play Store but they all say that the 6P lacks exposure mode so they can't do the bracketing needed for true HDR.
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Take a picture inside by a window and you can see the difference with HDR+ on. You can basically see what's outside the window with HDR+ on but the window looks blown out with it off.
This... I've written about this before saying that it shouldn't be called HDR+ but instead Low Light+. The HDR effect is minimal compared to the low light noise reduction.
Typically on an iPhone you can get reasonable backlit photos. When I tried to do the same on my Nexus 6p, HDR+ offered little to no improvement. I decided to use my iPhone instead which did a mich better job for actually adding dynamic range.
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Tonight on my way home, the sky above the mountains was a beautiful blood red and for some reason it comes across as orange / pink from far away and pink / white when zoomed in.
This is not the first cellphone camera to have taken photos where the reds didn't come through. My Galaxy S4, S5 and 7 were not able to take pictures of red either, it always turned out orange.
What am I doing wrong to not be able to get reds to translate.
Here are pictures from the different phones. All the red LEDs i used were from the same rolls I bought and were all supposed to be dark red, not orange in anyway. The closest i ever got was the lat photo and it's still only about half way there.
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Having a greater understanding of digital cameras and the software used to process the image as well as how they work together will help... I'm no expert, but suspect this link will help...
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3821409
Could be you need to be using more manual settings when you want to focus on a specific deep color or turn off any automatic processing. Could also be the relatively cheap sensors they're using in cell phones vs "real" camera sensors being used on the higher end in full body shooters.
Looks like you're over-exposing the parts you actually want red by exposing for other parts of the frame. In the mountain shot, there are other spots that are red. The last shot with the clock and hazard button, the hazard button is close, maybe migrating a little into the pink or magenta shades. (Can see a bit of magenta cast in other parts, so a WB adjustment needs to be made.) Shifter photo I can see a bit of red reflecting off of the upper shifter shaft but the actual lights are overexposed if they were red or orange. The bed frame you have some red at the bottom of the frame but as you get closer to the light source it washes out. So overall, I'd say it's an exposure issue that isn't really the camera's fault.
The sky with mountains you're running into a dynamic range issue and that'll be a problem for just about any camera. A scene like that would require more than just a couple of frames blended together. You're looking at a background that is essentially still extremely bright compared to the rest of the frame as it is "indirectly" lit by the sun. The foreground is the next brightest as it is close wide spread light sources. The mountains themselves and band of town directly below them are the bottom end of the exposure and where your reds will get to be reds.
The other issue is that sensors all tend to have a bias towards a color that they shoot well and one they don't. For a VAST majority of sensors, red will tend to blow out first. This goes for large pro sensors all the way down to cellphones. It's just one of the many things you learn when you dive into when really getting to know your tools. That's why high end cameras have had RGB histograms for the longest time, so you can keep an eye on reds clipping. The Camera FV-5 app has the ability to show a live RGB histogram. At this point in my shooting though, I just shoot then look at the overall frame and the areas I feel really matter. If I like it or know I can work with it, I keep it. If not, then I readjust my settings and reshoot.
you miss to take a photo with google camera, on v30!
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you miss to take a photo with google camera, on v30!
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Sorry can you say that again?
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Sorry can you say that again?
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I think he's saying that you should have used the Google camera app, word is that it takes far better shots on auto, particularly in situations like this where HDR/HDR+ would be on.
It seems it was posted a while back, try giving it a go.
Yes, thank you Septfox. I'm sure that Google Camera app will bring much more DR and overall improved results on V30. Don't forget to come back with conclusions!
Example here (V30 vs Pixel 2, and after V30 with Google Camera vs Pixel 2)
There seems to be a lot of variance on the different versions of the Google Camera app. Even different versions of the same port can be a bit hit or miss. I've had a mixed bag of results with it. Last port I used a couple of nights ago, I ended up using the LG camera app shots instead of the Google Camera app ones.
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This is not the first cellphone camera to have taken photos where the reds didn't come through. My Galaxy S4, S5 and 7 were not able to take pictures of red either, it always turned out orange.
What am I doing wrong to not be able to get reds to translate.
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Reds blow out first. You have to underexpose to prevent that then brighten shadows and the rest up in a photo editing program. Take it with EV -2 say or less as required. Do that and you will be able to do better than the pixel camera
YMMV, a sunset might be too much to get due to difference in the sky and the ground. So help the camera. Take it when its darker but still red that way the difference between brightest and darkest will be less
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Thanks everyone for the thoughts and i will try the google photo app.
Update - So I tried the Google Pixel photo app (had to download the APK) with HDR on still doesn't seem to do the job with reds. The elevator button is a solid red, and again looks pink.
Again, you need to dial back the exposure. Just switching apps isn't going to do the trick.
Yep, try using EV -2 as a quick workaround. If that isn't enough you might have to speed up the shutter to go further.
The idea is to expose it right. Red should appear as red in the photo. Never mind if the photo appears underexposed. It can be brightened later.
You are taking a photo of a light source. The elevator button and everything else is darker in relation. This in itself could be tricking the camera into thinking the scene is too dark and it brightens it up and blows out the red.
Cameras still don't know what they are taking photos of. They need guidance
I'm currently experiencing this issue when taking pictures with my P6.
I took this picture of a yellow paper on a green chair. Here's how it looks like from a few feet away:
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"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
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However, when I move the camera in closer this is what I get:
The phone is completely unable to handle these color combinations at this range and everything ends up looking like it's in grayscale. I haven't been able to reproduce this with different subjects, but it happens every time under these conditions and my wife's P6 does the exact same thing.
So I'm wondering if this is a known issue with the camera? Is it a fluke? Does it indicate an issue with our camera modules? Has anyone seen this before? We got these off of Swappa, and if this is a hardware issue we shouldn't be expecting to see, I want to look into switching them out sooner rather than later. Any help will be appreciated!
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I haven't been able to reproduce this with different subjects, but it happens every time under these conditions and my wife's P6 does the exact same thing.
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I think you need to sample a wider range of colors and lighting before worrying about the hardware. Sounds like you've just stumbled on a weird color combination. You have the benefit of two Pixel 6 cameras for comparison and based on that alone they're probably Ok.
Use a photo color chart to measure color throughput. Lightning has to be the same color temperature ie same light source for all images. A calibrated monitor should be used. Shoot raw images if possible.
In the images above it looks to me me like the bottom one is under saturated...
The shooting conditions are likely screwing up the color temperature or an other processing parameter like saturation. If you change the distance to the subject that might do it too depending on shooting conditions ie surrounding reflected colors and light sources.
manjaroid said:
I think you need to sample a wider range of colors and lighting before worrying about the hardware. Sounds like you've just stumbled on a weird color combination. You have the benefit of two Pixel 6 cameras for comparison and based on that alone they're probably Ok.
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Fantastic point, thanks! I tried the same shot again earlier with the wide angle lens and the issue is present, so definitely doesn't seem like a hardware issue. Still not a great situation.
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Use a photo color chart to measure color throughput. Lightning has to be the same color temperature ie same light source for all images. A calibrated monitor should be used. Shoot raw images if possible.
In the images above it looks to me me like the bottom one is under saturated...
The shooting conditions are likely screwing up the color temperature or an other processing parameter like saturation. If you change the distance to the subject that might do it too depending on shooting conditions ie surrounding reflected colors and light sources.
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Yeah changing the distance is how I got the two images above. Hopefully this doesn't show up under other circumstances.
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Yeah changing the distance is how I got the two images above. Hopefully this doesn't show up under other circumstances.
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I think this is likely normal and harmless.
Simply post edit and increase the saturation slightly.
Even with pro cams tweaking the contrast curve is a common post edited.
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Yeah changing the distance is how I got the two images above. Hopefully this doesn't show up under other circumstances.
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Digital zoom definitely had an effect on color in that one shot. But if your Pixel(s) are working normally you'll likely see better colors at 2x or portrait mode most other times. I haven't studied color much with the Pixel 6 camera but I do think its digital zoom is the sharpest I've ever seen in a phone.
As @blackhawk mentioned, light temperature is a big factor. Here's what happens indoors with the flick of a lamp switch...
The first image was made in diffused daylight coming from a window. The yellow fabric isn't as dynamic as the real thing but it's a reasonable likeness. The second image mixes incandescent orange light with daylight that completely changed the fabric's color. If I take the fabric outside on a sunny day I'd probably get shades of yellow brighter than the real thing.
Which has me wondering... If you do the same 2x shot with a high dose of blue light by enabling the flash, are yellow and green closer to your wide shot, or brighter?
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Digital zoom definitely had an effect on color in that one shot. But if your Pixel(s) are working normally you'll likely see better colors at 2x or portrait mode most other times. I haven't studied color much with the Pixel 6 camera but I do think its digital zoom is the sharpest I've ever seen in a phone.
As @blackhawk mentioned, light temperature is a big factor. Here's what happens indoors with the flick of a lamp switch...
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The first image was made in diffused daylight coming from a window. The yellow fabric isn't as dynamic as the real thing but it's a reasonable likeness. The second image mixes incandescent orange light with daylight that completely changed the fabric's color. If I take the fabric outside on a sunny day I'd probably get shades of yellow brighter than the real thing.
Which has me wondering... If you do the same 2x shot with a high dose of blue light by enabling the flash, are yellow and green closer to your wide shot, or brighter?
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I can play around with that. To be clear though, my two pictures weren't taken with digital zoom, they were taken with the phone itself moved closer to the subject.
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my two pictures weren't taken with digital zoom, they were taken with the phone itself moved closer to the subject.
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Ahh, I made an assumption. My samples are 2x zoom.
People take for granted to human eye's and optical cortex's incredible processing power and performance. It's nearly seamless with adaptive learning no AI can match, it's exponentially better.
With cameras you need to learn to see the world through its eye. Learn it's capabilities and limitations and shoot accordingly. This is true with the best pro cams and lens. For what it is the smartphone cams do very well especially if used properly. The same learning curves apply to them as it does to all cameras. Photography is a very complex art form.
It's not the cam that grabs keepers, it's the shooter. Ansel Adams was grabbing incredible keepers with primitive cams well over a hundred years ago. He would have killed for the speed and color of a smartphone's camera.