HDR+ mode: barely any effect on dynamic range? - Nexus 6P General

In my experience, the stock camera's HDR+ mode works great for suppressing noise in low-light pics, but doesn't really do much for actual high dynamic range scenes.
In a typical dark foreground/sunny background situation, my (2014) Moto X used to do a great job keeping the highlights from overexposing and bringing up the dark parts of the scene. My 6P, on the other hand, using the stock Google camera with HDR+ active, barely seems to do anything in this respect. Sunny skies are still blown out, faces in the foreground almost black. I'm not looking for an overprocessed HDR "effect", but this seems a little too subtle.
I just want to make sure this isn't a problem specific to my device, so: anyone else seeing the same thing?
Edit -- I tried a couple of dedicated HDR apps from the Play Store but they all say that the 6P lacks exposure mode so they can't do the bracketing needed for true HDR.

I feel the same. Compared to the LG G4 I had before, HDR on 6P barely does anything.

Maybe its my old eyes, but I can't noticed a real difference either.

Thanks folks. So it isn't just me.
Maybe "HDR" is just a poorly chosen name for this feature. Like I said, for noisy low-light pics it works really well. Just look closely while it's still processing: shortly after it finishes, you can see the noisy version being replaced with much cleaner picture. But apparently it's not optimized for high-contrast scenes.
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Actually it works really well. Here's why: it saves you from blowing your highlights. It doesn't do much for shadows, however it gives you a very clean image where your able to boost the shadows to your liking and the image remains clean. It stays away from that garbage fake "HDR" look that most apps create.
Also! Proshot does exposure bracketing very well. Here is a screenshot of how to setup the settings for it to work. Use these settings and you'll be fine.
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Hey, thanks.
What got me doubting was an example in the article where Google introduced the feature, here. In the second example (the landscape with the two girls in the foreground), the difference is quite pronounced. The image on the right, shot with HDR+ on, has a fully defined sky with visible clouds etc.
But I've shot images with HDR+ on that looked a lot more like the blown-out comparison shot on the left, with large highlight zones with no detail captured at all. Could be I was asking too much of it on those occasions, I'm not sure. I'll experiment a little more and try and get some examples.
ProShot is great, thanks for the tip, just bought the full version!

Hi, I've been struggling with HDR apps on the 6P thanks to the exposure compensation bug (https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=196815) and was hoping your Pro Shot setting might help. When I tried it I got three photos, but two were at the same exposure, while the third was much much brighter. It also doesn't seem to merge them together automatically.

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Hi, I've been struggling with HDR apps on the 6P thanks to the exposure compensation bug (https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=196815) and was hoping your Pro Shot setting might help. When I tried it I got three photos, but two were at the same exposure, while the third was much much brighter. It also doesn't seem to merge them together automatically.
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Instead of using SPD4 use SPD1.
Also, proshot doesn't merge them for you. You have to do that yourself.

Mr Patchy Patch said:
Instead of using SPD4 use SPD1.
Also, proshot doesn't merge them for you. You have to do that yourself.
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Thanks, that did the trick! Good to know about the merging, much appreciated.

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Thanks, that did the trick! Good to know about the merging, much appreciated.
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No problem. Enjoy!

Noup, you're not the only one I usually have to choose between having blowed out skies or having people underexposed ...

I just switched to my 6P from an LG G4. While I liked the HDR on the camera, I feel the 6P produces a better image overall. Much less sharpening/watercolor look to the 6P photos. The LG's started to look like fake watercolors when you view them on anything but the phone, unless the light was absolutely perfect, which it rarely was.
But with that said, HDR seems to be terrible on this phone with the stock app, in my limited experience.

Robrecht said:
In my experience, the stock camera's HDR+ mode works great for suppressing noise in low-light pics, but doesn't really do much for actual high dynamic range scenes.
In a typical dark foreground/sunny background situation, my (2014) Moto X used to do a great job keeping the highlights from overexposing and bringing up the dark parts of the scene. My 6P, on the other hand, using the stock Google camera with HDR+ active, barely seems to do anything in this respect. Sunny skies are still blown out, faces in the foreground almost black. I'm not looking for an overprocessed HDR "effect", but this seems a little too subtle.
I just want to make sure this isn't a problem specific to my device, so: anyone else seeing the same thing?
Edit -- I tried a couple of dedicated HDR apps from the Play Store but they all say that the 6P lacks exposure mode so they can't do the bracketing needed for true HDR.
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Take a picture inside by a window and you can see the difference with HDR+ on. You can basically see what's outside the window with HDR+ on but the window looks blown out with it off.

This... I've written about this before saying that it shouldn't be called HDR+ but instead Low Light+. The HDR effect is minimal compared to the low light noise reduction.
Typically on an iPhone you can get reasonable backlit photos. When I tried to do the same on my Nexus 6p, HDR+ offered little to no improvement. I decided to use my iPhone instead which did a mich better job for actually adding dynamic range.
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Lumia 800 Photography

Thought people might be interested in knowing I've started a Flickr group for the Lumia 800.
http://www.flickr.com/groups/[email protected]/
Would love to see what others have been able to capture with the nifty little camera on our phones
I just joined the group... will try to upload photos taken by my lumia 800...
Anyone has red tint on photo taken using Lumia 800?
Mine has it when the ambient light is not strong...
i have tinted photos as well. the auto color balance is horrible. all pictures are sepia-ish
like that, i will join you too
Thanks!!
Just joined group but haven't posted yet. I've had my Lumia a whopping 48 hours at this point and haven't had a chance to really wring out the camera yet.
Hope to rectify that this weekend.
Don't see what all the complaints are about. Has more settings than my HD7 did - and all the additions are useful (I love the exposure setting). Shutter response is identical to any smartphone camera I've had before.
As far as photo color - maybe I'm jaded, but I don't think ANY smartphone camera is all that great. The HD7 surprised me because being mediocre in almost all other respects, the camera was pretty good. To me, these cameras will never replace a decent 35mm; they're a step above a Kodak Instamatic or typical 35mm disposable in my opinion. I think it's pretty much mandatory with phone cameras to have something like PicturesLab or Thumba to tart up the pictures a bit and have them looking decent.
Cheers,
Maybe after altering a few settings like white balance, you can make it behave well. But out of the box at default settings the Lumia800 is not surprisingly good.
just a reminder of 4 years ago where the Nokia N95 could deliver images comparable to a reasonably good point and shoot camera
My first real photo on the Lumia.. no editing..
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I did a test in ambient light this evening.
I have the following preliminary conclusions:
A. Picture quality seems okay looking at the results on the phone itself
B. Contrast and saturation settings together are so agressive that you need these set to default in order to get a decent picture
C. Yes, the red burn on photos is clearly there.
D. Auto white balance is a disaster as well as the manual settings. These are way too agressive too. If these would be applied at fifty percent would be much better.
picture of apollo15rover shows the agressive auto settings. Very high contrast as shades are very dark, the grass seems too dark green, and the bright is overburnt. that it is done by the camera settings..I recognize this too in my own photos taken with the lumia.
htc12345 said:
I did a test in ambient light this evening.
I have the following preliminary conclusions:
A. Picture quality seems okay looking at the results on the phone itself
B. Contrast and saturation settings together are so agressive that you need these set to default in order to get a decent picture
C. Yes, the red burn on photos is clearly there.
D. Auto white balance is a disaster as well as the manual settings. These are way too agressive too. If these would be applied at fifty percent would be much better.
picture of apollo15rover shows the agressive auto settings. Very high contrast as shades are very dark, the grass seems too dark green, and the bright is overburnt. that it is done by the camera settings..I recognize this too in my own photos taken with the lumia.
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I agree with all.. but still pretty happy the way this turned out.. Clarity and detail aren't lacking. I took with Macro focus (had not discovered macro scene yet)
I did try to take a couple with one notch up on saturation and it might as well have been solarized!
On a positive note I found something that has not been on any smartphone I have had in the past: Macro Scene PLUS Macro Focus - so I can now take low depth of field shots!
Here's another unedited photo..
All settings normal/auto except I lowered Contrast and Saturation 1 notch to "Low" each.. To me it's a bit washed out, but more easy to correct in photo program than trying to go the other way..
htc12345 said:
I did a test in ambient light this evening.
I have the following preliminary conclusions:
C. Yes, the red burn on photos is clearly there.
D .
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Recently tried to shoot some lighter color subjects and now also noticing the red burn in the middle.. Anyone discover the trick of getting rid of it?
Edit.. Must be in the white balance. Doesn't appear on outdoor photos. Also, I re-shot the interior photo with the burn using flash, and the burn was completely eliminated. Not too happy being a fan of natural light photography..
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Wodnik Szuwarek said:
USA is a beautiful country
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Why, cause we're not covered in ice right now?
You have an interesting shape of the surface
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My first real photo on the Lumia.. no editing..
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For a phone that's out of this world. For a point and shoot its perfect.
A small test-image i took with the default settings (apart from the mode [set to macro] and the flash [i had to disable it]). The focus should be on the third black key.

Mod & Stock Camera Comparisons !!!

Hi Everyone, this post is not to hurt anyone. i respect all developers and everyone who contribute to this Forum
i have flashed Cloudy Pro II V1.2 rom on my G2. Everything was perfect ( one word amazing) but my only worry was Camera. i have a strong feeling that the camera has lost image in depth quality and clarity in images. i dont know which MOD was added to Cloudy Pro 1.2 rom. but still i have flashed Jishnu's & Xdabbeb Camera Mods. But the result was the same.
so i though of removing the camera apk that came with rom and tried to replace stock camera, but i failed (unfortunately stopped error) - may be the reason could be this Rom is based on G Pro 2.
i started asking suggestions everyone what's needed to be done to come on Stock 4.4.2 Camera with this ROM. but everyone suggested Xdabbeb & Jishnu's Camera. so finally i thought of a real comparison with stock camera.
though these mods are capable of more features like 4k/magic focus etc, my main concern was image quality
All Left images were taken by LG G2 Stock 4.4.2 Camera.
All Right images were taken by LG G2 Cloudy Pro II V1.2 with Xdabbeb Camera Mod.
Pictures were Clicked with same settings on both phones
Can any one suggest me how to mod Stock G2 or G Pro 2 Camera in Cloudy Pro II ROM......please i love this ****ing awesome ROM
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I like right one more. Better white balance and reflections.
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yeah the right one looks better in my opinion. Also the only thing I don't like about this camera is that the auto focus is slow, there is no option for continuous focus.
Hey so I had a question so you tried both xbaees camera mod and jinushus camera mod. Which was better in your opinion than the stock cloudypro 1.2 because auto focus is really slow for me.
kapybarus said:
I like right one more. Better white balance and reflections.
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r u sure that right side pictures are better ? bcoz when i was clicking these pictures my camera (with mod camera) was looking bad on screen compared that too stock ones
AndrewM3 said:
yeah the right one looks better in my opinion. Also the only thing I don't like about this camera is that the auto focus is slow, there is no option for continuous focus.
Hey so I had a question so you tried both xbaees camera mod and jinushus camera mod. Which was better in your opinion than the stock cloudypro 1.2 because auto focus is really slow for me.
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yeah both are great Mods you dont really feel much difference. i say that give a try for both of them
i liked Xdabbeb ones better than the Ones in Cloudy Pro II ROM.
The picture on the right is underexposed loosing details on shadows, has much more chroma noise than the left and it is more bluish. Were the lights yellow where you shoot the pictures?...
The camera in all smartphones really sucks...
citytrader said:
The picture on the right is underexposed loosing details on shadows, has much more chroma noise than the left and it is more bluish. Were the lights yellow where you shoot the pictures?...
The camera in all smartphones really sucks...
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yeah there were some yellowish lights at that place. now as a photographer according to you what do you choose ?
Left ones or Right ones ?
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yeah there were some yellowish lights at that place. now as a photographer according to you what do you choose ?
Left ones or Right ones ?
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I can not make a judgement here because the right pictures are underexposed... :cyclops:
One point that much people confuse is about white balance, they think a picture has correct white balance if the whites are white and this is wrong (except for studio shoots), the correct white balance is when the picture is near to the real life, so the left should be better.
I think you should test again the cameras in two situations, night and day, in day with some trees, grass and sky and the most important thing, you should do a correct exposure compensation (brightness in stock camera) in both shoots, in the day shoots, try not to use auto WB, I dont use auto WB even in pro cameras.
For taking pictures, I recommend to use Camera FV-5 with banding disabled, is the camera application I like most, you can do exposure lock and focus lock separately, I dont like to use a camera app without that functionality.
What the mods to is to decrease the shutter speed and increase the ISO so it can capture moving objects in darker scenes without them getting blurry. This can result in underexposed pictures and more noise which seems to be the case here.
Better on left. Accept it guys, those mods dont do anything good. Imho
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F-Forward said:
What the mods to is to decrease the shutter speed and increase the ISO so it can capture moving objects in darker scenes without them getting blurry. This can result in underexposed pictures and more noise which seems to be the case here.[/QUOTE]
The statement in red is wrong, the increasing ISO increments noise as you can see in the pictures, if you increase speed and ISO respecting the equation of exposure, it will get correct exposure.
Another important point, users should try to avoid increasing ISO if its possible, increasing ISO has bad impact in the photo in noise, color rendition degrades and dynamic range diminishes as ISO increases .
You can not do magic with the LG G2 sensor, its the same crap you will find in every smartphone.
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The camera blows in this phone no matter what you do.
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The camera blows in this phone no matter what you do.
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Main problem for everyone is that LG G2 Camera is way more capable of iPhone 5S but the software provided by LG Screws it up
why don't you try HDR SNAP Camera to see how capable is LG G2 camera
I just flashed xdaba cam mod and its amazing now.
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*Post your pictures taken with the Xperia Z3 Compact*

Hey guys, many of us have received this great device already, now it's time to show how great (or not so great) pictures this device can make!
It could also help other people make their choice whether to buy it or not.
Please do not upload the image on XDA itself, but rather use a site like imgur, tinypic, imageshack, imagevenue to upload your pictures.
When you upload the images on XDA itself we won't be able to see the image in it's full glory, because the images are being compressed, hence losing their quality.
Thank you.
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Ok so I went out to take some pictures on one of the last few warm and sunny days of this year:
I first made some macro shots in the garden (I used a macro lens)
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Next I drove around town to make some pictures, all in manual mode 20.7 MP and 8MP all 4:3 ratio.
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I forgot 2 pictures that I made with backgrounddefocus:
As far as the camera goes... is it as good as it should be with that high a resolution? Probably not. Is it better than most smartphones? Yes. Is it the best? Probably not, but it will definitely do the job for any of the poor souls (like myself) coming from a Moto X.
Not bad at night, although noise reduction is crazily heavy-handed, as I've come to expect from Sony.
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I forgot 2 pictures that I made with backgrounddefocus:
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Strangely the bokeh effect in those pictures makes it looks as if the picture is sunken into my monitor, kind of like a 3D effect.
I've not had that effect so strongly with other bokehs. :cyclops:
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Not bad at night, although noise reduction is crazily heavy-handed, as I've come to expect from Sony.
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Not bad at all (I shudder to think what pic the Moto X would have produced haha). What settings did you use for that shot? Auto? Manual? 8MP? 15 or 20MP?
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Not bad at all (I shudder to think what pic the Moto X would have produced haha). What settings did you use for that shot? Auto? Manual? 8MP? 15 or 20MP?
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IIRC, auto at 8MP.
Honestly, though, Sony really needs to get a grip on their JPEG processing and/or allow RAW output. I don't question that this is among the best sensors in a mobile phone out there, but I miss Nokia's much better processing algorithms.
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IIRC, auto at 8MP.
Honestly, though, Sony really needs to get a grip on their JPEG processing and/or allow RAW output. I don't question that this is among the best sensors in a mobile phone out there, but I miss Nokia's much better processing algorithms.
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I'm not a photo expert or anything AT ALL!
But that's the complaint I've been hearing most of the time. Sony is one of the leaders when it comes to DSLR's and Compact camera's, but yet their Android software is lacking some things.
Dsteppa said:
I'm not a photo expert or anything AT ALL!
But that's the complaint I've been hearing most of the time. Sony is one of the leaders when it comes to DSLR's and Compact camera's, but yet their Android software is lacking some things.
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Their JPEG processing for their Alpha cameras isn't too good, either, which was just one more reason for me to just shoot in RAW when I had a NEX.
They are not artistic shots, but I found it after my iPhone session. For me looks pretty good as taken by phone camera.

			
				
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Very lovely pictures I'd say!
What country is that?
@Dsteppa please check pm
20.7 or 8 mpx?
What settings are u using? I tried lots of different combinations and cant find anything that looks great. Photos arent as sharp as I'd like.
Lyme Regis, Dorset, England. 8mp 16:9 SA
Lyme Regis, Dorset, England. 8mp 16:9 SA
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I hate when people come from Dorset ... Only because it makes me jealous lol ... I've had a lot of great holidays in Swanage.
Here's a few pictures I took, nothing special, subject wise (other than my dog ) but I was happy with the quality:
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As far as the camera goes... is it as good as it should be with that high a resolution? Probably not. Is it better than most smartphones? Yes. Is it the best? Probably not, but it will definitely do the job for any of the poor souls (like myself) coming from a Moto X.
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I'm pretty sure that I've read every review and comparison review of the Z3 camera. My conclusion is that the Z3c has the best camera for a phone it's size (except iPhone 6 which probably edges it out slightly). Expanding the comparison to larger phones, the Z3 camera is comparable to the S5, which has a very well reviewed camera. Each has strengths and weaknesses but end up as a tie overall. For someone who is very into photography though, the Z3 does offer more control, if desired, than the S5, so the photographer will likely prefer the Z3.
That's my summary from having looked at tons of reviews and comparisons and is consistent with the findings of dxomark: http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Sony-Xperia-Z3-New-Sony-flagship-Smartphone-tested
With that said, this comparison review does a good job of showing the weaknesses of the Z3 vs the best the Windows Phone has to offer.
http://allaboutwindowsphone.com/features/item/20150_Camera_head_to_head_Lumia_9301.php
The DxoMark scores for the phone cameras are actually quite close, still with the edge to the Z3 overall though. The Lumia video abilities really drop their combined score though.
As long as you're expectations are reasonable (this is still a phone not a DSLR) I think you'll be happy with the Z3c, I have been so far. It's among the best cameras currently available in a phone
Wow. I need more photos sample and reviews. Please!!!

[Official from Honor] What Scene Should be Added to Honor View 10's AI Camera?

The Honor View 10 comes with the Kirin 970 NPU which powers the AI system that is used in the camera. Thirteen different types of scenes and objects can be recognized instantly, so your camera app can quickly adjust the settings to fit the scene.
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Honor is once again looking to learn from the community to help improve their products. Now is your chance to let them know what new scene you would like to see added to the AI camera.
For Honor View 10 Users: Leave a comment with a photo taken from your View 10, using one of the existing scenes. Then let us know what type of scene you'd like to see added to the mix.
For everyone else: Just comment which scene you'd like to see get added.
Currently, Honor's AI camera supports the following scenes:
Blue Sky
Flower
Plant
Beach
Sunset/Sunrise
Performace
Food
Text
Nightscape
Snow
Cat
Dog
Portrait
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I live next to a forrest so a forrest scene would be awesome!
I'd like to see a macro scene that lets you get super close up and capture a ton of fine detail
Rain scene!
With good detail of raindrops and the view/sybject of the picture [emoji14]
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What would we use for sports? Live entertainment? Boxing, formula 1, football, etc.?
Maybe performance?
How about a built in document scanner, automatically crops and leaves just the document or card, etc.
Indoor lighting would be great. Most of us take indoor photos and they tend to go wrong with the white balance, Exposure, the color balance and smoothening.
It isn't exactly low light or night photo as there is a light source, but the camera needs to adjust itself to take natural looking pictures.
Scene suggestions for the AI that I can offer include rain (if it can do snow, it can surely do rain), low light, sports, landscape and macro.
The other advice I have, is as follows. The modified Google Camera apk that runs on most Snapdragon devices is available online. Huawei should spend their resources analysing that, and extracting the features such as portrait mode with a single camera and HDR+, both of which enhance the photo quality marginally... Since most people who own phones do not know about the modified Google Camera, offering such great picture quality at a budget price would be a sure sell. I know the second, and kinda dominating part of my answer is completely different from what was asked to us, but if Huawei does read my answer, I'm sure it'll be a little bit helpful.
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What would we use for sports? Live entertainment? Boxing, formula 1, football, etc.?
Maybe performance?
How about a built in document scanner, automatically crops and leaves just the document or card, etc.
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There's already a built in doc scanner in the camera app [emoji14]
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A built in camera scanner, like the app CamScanner. That would be cool.
Could you toss in a feature to downgrade the camera's performance when a One Plus phone is detected nearby? I wouldn't want my friends who own them to realize they had chosen to settle for less.
Not a scene recognition, but something that the Kirin 970 is capable of - Portrait / bokeh mode in videos by live tracking the subject.
I know it can be implemented as it is featured in Huawei's mate 10 pro. Hope you can bring this feature to the view 10
An Aquarium mode to photograph fishes or other indoor aquarium scenery. Foliage mode too for garden, forest or any plants that cranks the vivid colors.
Electronic Image Stabilization (EIS) is urgently needed for Honor View 10.
I like ai camera
I really like going to the nightclub to watch the concert. My dream is to go to Ultra Miami, so I hope I can go there one day and listen to HARDWELL and then take a selfie with him. I want to increase the concert mode and nightclub mode.
mperezkr said:
What would we use for sports? Live entertainment? Boxing, formula 1, football, etc.?
Maybe performance?
How about a built in document scanner, automatically crops and leaves just the document or card, etc.
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Document scanner already available in default camera. Just swipe from right abd select document mode. :good:
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Could you toss in a feature to downgrade the camera's performance when a One Plus phone is detected nearby? I wouldn't want my friends who own them to realize they had chosen to settle for less.
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Haha good one ?
Indoor mode, which can actually optimize florescent light, bulbs, LEDs etc. without compromising the actually light on the subject would be great! A portrait mode that detects multiple faces and then give shallow depth of field on the rest of the background!
I Rain mode would be nice addition ?️?️
Hooow?! said:
I would like to see perfect adjustments during low light situations also there should be an ability to automatically enable EIS when the phone is shaking a good amount
Thanks!
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True . Low light capability is really low and Auto adjustments are much appreciated.
I would like to "Auto HDR" mode or scene recognition in the camera.
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And the next one. Beautify almost sucks like anything and applies all effects it does had. Each has a different face and applying all would messup. For thin faces it is making the face more thinner. If it could adjust this settings it will be a point in good improvements.

Not satisfied with the camera

Anyone else not satisfied with the camera?
I already took a great shot but most of them just feel soft and not sharp at all!
A lot of noise as well when zooming in.
I'm quite shocked as my OnePlus 3 takes better pictures (GCam).
The selfie cam is the worst. On OP3 I can basically see all of my skins pores, beard hair etc.
On the mate it's just soft(no matter the setting).
I'm on firmware 122 btw.
Would be good to know if that's just my taste or a wrong setting maybe?
Thanks!
In general:
Very satisified with the back camera.
But the selfiecam is kind of 'boring'.
You should provide pics to make your case as the question is so broad and the answers are so many.
Took a few pics today and really impressed with the back camera. The front camera isn't great and beautifies every image and looks soft. Hopefully a software update could fix this. Came from a pixel 2 which I think are the ones to beat at moment for camera phones.
Back camera is really great. In selfie camera there is an option to switch off beauty mode. Try with that option and you will get better selfies than Samsung Galaxy flagships.
I just posted to a similar thread over in news aand discussion.....
I too am disappointed with the M20 pro camera, mostly indoors in not so good (but hardly terrible) light the images are really quite soft
Looking at the exif it always seems to choose a really low shutter speed and as others have said no OIS on the main camera. Like I said disappointing, I am on .238, no idea if there are any camera improvements to come on .266 or 9.1?
Light can change your thoughts
Yes the mate 20p camera tends to take soft and sometimes blurry photos. I blame the lack of OIS.
With a little extra effort you can take awesome photos, but for point and shoot many other phones do that better.
I just moved from op3 to mate 20 pro, principally for the camera and... I'm disappointed, my ops3 photo's with gcam are a lot better! All photos in middle light (and hdr condition) look like they are painted!
I tried to make some side by died) side comparison and one plus 3 photos are better in everything
nico933 said:
I just moved from op3 to mate 20 pro, principally for the camera and... I'm disappointed, my ops3 photo's with gcam are a lot better! All photos in middle light (and hdr condition) look like they are painted!
I tried to make some side by died) side comparison and one plus 3 photos are better in everything
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Lol I wouldn't buy this for a minute. Must be you or your settings
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Lol I wouldn't buy this for a minute. Must be you or your settings
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Me is not possibile, I was keeping one phone in a hand and the other one in the other, setting i don't know maybe.. M but I just opened the camera and chosen hdr..., have you some setting to suggest?
Some photos are good but others no..., color are a little bit more ok and grass looks painted
Now in no more at home, this weekend I'm coming to post some comparisons if needed
nico933 said:
Me is not possibile, I was keeping one phone in a hand and the other one in the other, setting i don't know maybe.. M but I just opened the camera and chosen hdr..., have you some setting to suggest?
Some photos are good but others no..., color are a little bit more ok and grass looks painted
Now in no more at home, this weekend I'm coming to post some comparisons if needed
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Are you using vivid mode? Try turning that to standard
I'm very satisfied with the camera, I think this is all about setting, not the camera or the phone.
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Are you using vivid mode? Try turning that to standard
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I tried that setting but it doesn't look to influence the "painted effect"
This weekend on going to make a more detailed test and on case I'm going to post some photos
nico933 said:
I tried that setting but it doesn't look to influence the "painted effect"
This weekend on going to make a more detailed test and on case I'm going to post some photos
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Turn off AI maybe. Honestly if you're trying to tell us one of the best rated phone cameras of all time gets bested by one of the most mediocre, you'd better have some valid evidence lol
My only gripe is the AI sometimes gets confused like when it thought this shot was winter and it changed the images completely
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My only gripe is the AI sometimes gets confused like when it thought this shot was winter and it changed the images completely
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That is a totally feasible complaint as I have had this happen as well. Sometimes AI is better off for certain shots for sure
That's why it is handy on the latest 9.1 update to turn on and off without going into settings. You can also of course click the X when it detects what it think it is. I have had no issues with the camera in default mode and actually find it performs better after the last update, especially the transition when going to 3x zoom.
what bugs me is the "hold steady while camera sharpens the image".
Is there a way to avoid this?
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what bugs me is the "hold steady while camera sharpens the image".
Is there a way to avoid this?
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Nope, The phone is taking a auto hdr(thats even more extreme than the HDR mode btw) photo,generally it doesnt matter if you move or take another photo while the camera tells you that, i just ignore it.

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