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For all to see and understand why I've stepped away from the Umeox x201.
Here's the problem. The broken and unsecure firmware affects every x201 Umeox makes. So it doesn't matter if it's a TS or a Callisto 100 or a Pearl AW-414/420/421. The firmware is broken on all of them. So it's not a TS issue, it a Umeox issue.
The unsecure status of the firmware is not a simple set ro.secure to 1 as it's already ro.secure=1. This is something completely different as even with that it still runs in an unsecured mode. Here's the thing, this has been an issue for over four months. If who ever is compiling the firmware can't fix this in four months, fire them.
Here's another example. The "EU 2100 working sensors" firmware I released was after ditching the Omate TS kernel and using one I was able to get my hands on from the Callisto 100. It is still not fixed in the official firmware and forces the end user to flash firmware to their device to get working sensors. Some of these folks have problems with even basic computer usage leaving it to independent devs to fix and provide technical support for a Umeox created problem with no direct access to the resources needed. At this time, iconBIT is the only one that even posts their firmware with at least partial change logs and makes it publicly accessible.
Now before the "different B2B partners require different setups" is said. All those changes are in the system partition. If anybody with a copy of SP Tool and two different firmware releases can can swap out the system partition images and make it flashable then there is no reason that Umeox can't do the same. You build one, maybe two, fully working base firmwares and have a system partition image with the needed changes for each of you B2B partners. This eliminates having to build a full firmware for every individual model for every B2B partner.
I'm burnt out from supporting ALL your B2B partners customers as well as KS backers, trying to fix broken firmware with little resources on top of trying to have a life with my family.
So it comes down to this. Umeox either needs to fix the problems they created or ditch there own firmware and replace it with properly supported, secure and working firmware or I will not be coming back. This doesn't apply to just the TS but all x201s being sold.
I will continue to update the [INFO] Everything for folks but as far as any active development on any x201 running broken Umeox firmware. I'm done.
Just for the record, I can understand your frustration (and I've just been following along the story, I still haven't even gotten my KS reward watch yet), and think you've gone above and beyond the call of duty on this one. That you've had to do it in your spare time, and acted as an intercessionary figure between the "manufacturers" (particularly Omate) and the public is an incredible act of generousity towards the end users, and I don't know about everyone else, but I appreciate it; it was one of the few bright lights shining in an increasingly murky and regret-tinged Kickstarter backing.
So thank you, Lokifish, for your hard work, and if I should ever meet you in person, first round's on me.
@Lokifish Marz
Mate - you are totally right and I support you.
You were here, buying devicesand fixing their faults...why?
You worked so they could relax?
All developers should stop everything related to Umex - I'm sure someone will finally react...
You/we could offer support and help but that's not our company and our obligation, especially if they totally ignore they obligation and don't offer any support...
Two years...yeah...my a*s
I still haven't got my device - early October devs edition (O.K that's Omate, but still) and when it finally arrive in may I should work "for them" - NO, ABSOLUTELY NO
Such thing like that what LLP said - to use custom ROM, and to said that to all who wants working device is ridiculous and wrong...
O.K for us backers, that's KS but some guys actually ordered and paid that watch in "store"...
O.K now I'm talking about Omate but I understand what you are saying and support you, actually I'm not supporting you, I beg you - stop with support - they must get what is their job and obligation.
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For all to see and understand why I've stepped away from the Umeox x201.
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Disappointed by your decision Lokifish but fully understand your reasons, haven't received my TS yet and so haven't really benefited from your work. But without the work you have done that device won't succeed, not sure it will succeed at all now unless Umeox take note and act on this.
Thanks again for the work you've put into this, and just to emphasize and echo your priorities; THERE'S NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT THAN FAMILY.
Totally support you.
It's always a difficult decision whether withdrawing will force vendors to get their act together or redoubling efforts to engage will get results from vendors. You really can't know.
But you can make yourself happy, and that's what counts the most.
Thank You!
Lokifish Marz said:
For all to see and understand why I've stepped away from the Umeox x201.
Here's the problem. The broken and unsecure firmware affects every x201 Umeox makes. So it doesn't matter if it's a TS or a Callisto 100 or a Pearl AW-414/420/421. The firmware is broken on all of them. So it's not a TS issue, it a Umeox issue.
The unsecure status of the firmware is not a simple set ro.secure to 1 as it's already ro.secure=1. This is something completely different as even with that it still runs in an unsecured mode. Here's the thing, this has been an issue for over four months. If who ever is compiling the firmware can't fix this in four months, fire them.
Here's another example. The "EU 2100 working sensors" firmware I released was after ditching the Omate TS kernel and using one I was able to get my hands on from the Callisto 100. It is still not fixed in the official firmware and forces the end user to flash firmware to their device to get working sensors. Some of these folks have problems with even basic computer usage leaving it to independent devs to fix and provide technical support for a Umeox created problem with no direct access to the resources needed. At this time, iconBIT is the only one that even posts their firmware with at least partial change logs and makes it publicly accessible.
Now before the "different B2B partners require different setups" is said. All those changes are in the system partition. If anybody with a copy of SP Tool and two different firmware releases can can swap out the system partition images and make it flashable then there is no reason that Umeox can't do the same. You build one, maybe two, fully working base firmwares and have a system partition image with the needed changes for each of you B2B partners. This eliminates having to build a full firmware for every individual model for every B2B partner.
I'm burnt out from supporting ALL your B2B partners customers as well as KS backers, trying to fix broken firmware with little resources on top of trying to have a life with my family.
So it comes down to this. Umeox either needs to fix the problems they created or ditch there own firmware and replace it with properly supported, secure and working firmware or I will not be coming back. This doesn't apply to just the TS but all x201s being sold.
I will continue to update the [INFO] Everything for folks but as far as any active development on any x201 running broken Umeox firmware. I'm done.
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:good: Thank you sir for all you have done, even with all the BS from backers, OEM's & general support help requests. I hope someday they will just release all info on anything using Umeox.
I have just received my shipment from TS today & now read you are out, I wish you return someday.
Thanks for what you have done. Just got my TS the other day, so aside from the minor stuff I have figured out, not yet comfortable giving big time advice.
I do thank you for the patch & the root. Helps those out who do need it.
Good luck with your endeavors. Hopefully you will find what you are looking for. I am sure there will always be some of us here.
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:good: Thank you sir for all you have done, even with all the BS from backers, OEM's & general support help requests. I hope someday they will just release all info on anything using Umeox.
I have just received my shipment from TS today & now read you are out, I wish you return someday.
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They know what they need to do. It's a matter of will they do it and how long will they take. Til then I'm just a guy updating the info index thread and popping in from time to time.
I'm selling my watch to someone who has the patience. Loki you have been a great help to us all Thank you.
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This is an absolute travesty
But thank you for all you have done!
Sad to see you go before I even got my Omate. But as everyone else has said, I completely understand your reasons. Thanks so much for all your hard work
Thank you.
Thank you for all your work. Selfishly, I am very sad to see you leave the project, but support and understand your reasons. All the best with your baby girl.:good:
Thanks for all your work. Hope to see you back if they ever get sorted out.
Hi Locki, said to see you go but I am sure you will be back soon. Bin there, done that.
Some other company I will not mention did the same. Well, eventually they stopped production for 6 months due to well, uhmm, me making some phone calls and writing the detailed truth on forums. Got a personal call from EMEA production manager (which I didn't even knew) a few days later to solve this "problem". And we did. I am sure something like that will happen with you.
And if not, then OmateUmeox will soon be just another startup who failed big time and LLP will have a lot to think of.
But they are not stupid, money will soon be running out otherwise.
If we (Backers, supporters, owners of a Umeox/TS/Pearl whatever) want Locki back and want a good Firmware then it's up to US (as in WE) to make that happen. Locki's leaving is a big sign to LLP, Umeox and whoever is involved. And to us it's the same big sign.
Let's give back what Locki did for us and what Locki's intention still are. We all want a better product.
WE can make a difference. Let's get creative and find ways how we can convince Omate/LLP/Umeox that this is NOT how we want to continue.
WE made the TS by funding it. So WE have the power to do that too.
Thanks Lokifish, seriously. I don't have my TS yet, but I am relying on your patches and stuff to get it working properly when I do get it.
Thank you very much for your hard work, and though it's sad to see you go, I can totally see why it has happen. Take care and enjoy the time with your family =D
I am really greatful for all Locki's work, but now what? What can WE do? What's Laurent LePen plans? Where can I get any information about what's cooking?
I'm still providing low level support but deving has stopped. there is only so much that can be done with the current firmware. Until source code is obtained from MediaTek, do not expect to see any CM/AOSP/AOKP releases. At least for now folks on the patch or are properly rooted are safe. I know it's not perfect but please keep in mind the ROMs and MODs of any sort are a very rare thing on Mediatek powered devices.
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I'm still providing low level support but deving has stopped. there is only so much that can be done with the current firmware. Until source code is obtained from MediaTek, do not expect to see any CM/AOSP/AOKP releases. At least for now folks on the patch or are properly rooted are safe. I know it's not perfect but please keep in mind the ROMs and MODs of any sort are a very rare thing on Mediatek powered devices.
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thanks a lot,
I guess my lesson will unfortunatly be never buy a Mediatek device, never again. I got a nexus 4 with OmniROM on it, and I thought something similar could eventually be possible on my TS. Anyone knows where can I transmit my disappointement to Mediatek and let them know that for this prevoius reason, I will never their product again?
my note 3 is branded USCC, but flashed to PAge Plus carrier. I am pretty good with flashing roms and such and love to experiment.
looking for a full note 4 style rom for my note 3. if anyone can or help me with one, ill give you a unlimited supply of netflix passwords.
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my note 3 is branded USCC, but flashed to PAge Plus carrier. I am pretty good with flashing roms and such and love to experiment.
looking for a full note 4 style rom for my note 3. if anyone can or help me with one, ill give you a unlimited supply of netflix passwords.
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I don't have an answer to your question, but I'd be wary of your promise of netflix passwords. We here are XDA are a community that does not condone theft in any form. We simply want to get the most out of our phones.
Please review the forum rules, specifically number 9:
9. Don't get us into trouble.
Don't post copyrighted materials or do other things which will obviously lead to legal trouble. If you wouldn't do it on your own homepage, you probably shouldn't do it here either. This does not mean that we agree with everything that the software piracy lobby try to impose on us. It simply means that you cannot break any laws here, since we'll end up dealing with the legal hassle caused by you. Please use common sense: respect the forum, its users and those that write great code.
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I hope you find an adequate answer to your question.
Cheers,
-Topher
https://techcrunch.com/2018/06/07/zte-fined-1-billion/amp/
tl;dr: 1 billion dollars from ZTE and they're able to trade with us again.
Slightly longer version:
1) ZTE told not to trade with Iran
2) ZTE caught trading with Iran. ZTE fined and told to punish certain board members
3) ZTE caught not punishing said members, the US stops trade with ZTE
4) ZTE and the US renegotiate and ZTE has to pay the US another billion.
Axon 9 when???
The real question is............ Android 9, when?
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The real question is............ Android 9, when?
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Maaaan, Android 8.1 isn't even fully stable. At least on this device.
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Maaaan, Android 8.1 isn't even fully stable. At least on this device.
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I've said it many times before, my phone has never moved from my night stand when left there, it's very stable.
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I've said it many times before, my phone has never moved from my night stand when left there, it's very stable.
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Confirmed for not living in California.
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The real question is............ Android 9, when?
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Official Android 9 for the Axon 7? Never.
Official 8.1 ? Probably, but who can say when. Could be a week, could be months from now.
MFG now that I was planning to upgrade ?
I don't think they would have the axon 9 these running year .
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Axon 9 when???
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XTE Axon 9 pls when sir??!?
My guess is that we don't get an Axon 9. They likely missed their window, have a lot of delays starting back up, and frankly even back in business are probably going to transition away from the US flagship market due to the relative lack of success of the A7.
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My guess is that we don't get an Axon 9. They likely missed their window, have a lot of delays starting back up, and frankly even back in business are probably going to transition away from the US flagship market due to the relative lack of success of the A7.
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AFAIK ZTE claimed that the Axon 7 was very successful. That's why they announced the Axon 9 to begin with.
im willing to bet that the axon 9 was already 80-90% done when the ban took place. the real question is how possible is it to ramp back up and make them presuming they did not lay off all of the staff necessary to complete it now that they can use the components required. who knows for sure when and/or if Axon 9 sees the light of day in the US market. i really really hope it does, but at this point, anything is possible.
Not So Fast...
There's a move in the Senate to block the proposed agreement to allow ZTE to purchase from US companies again.
Link
Interesting how a similar ArsTechnica article puts this exclusively on Republicans when Senators Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and Chris Van Hollen (D-MD) are also sponsors of the amendment along with Marco Rubio (R-FL) and Tom Cotton (R-AK).
In the comments, to the Ars article, the author responds to that criticism by saying they needed a short headline so they say Republican senators instead of bipartisan group of senators.
I guess it's better to have a short headline than an accurate one.
I was waiting for the real Oreo version, but it looks like the NFound or Lineage version is the way it will have to be.
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There's a move in the Senate to block the proposed agreement to allow ZTE to purchase from US companies again.
Link
Interesting how a similar ArsTechnica article puts this exclusively on Republicans when Senators Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and Chris Van Hollen (D-MD) are also sponsors of the amendment along with Marco Rubio (R-FL) and Tom Cotton (R-AK).
In the comments, to the Ars article, the author responds to that criticism by saying they needed a short headline so they say Republican senators instead of bipartisan group of senators.
I guess it's better to have a short headline than an accurate one.
I was waiting for the real Oreo version, but it looks like the NFound or Lineage version is the way it will have to be.
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Or you can just use the real Oreo version
Which is where?
There are 3 versions of the A7 and none have an official and public Oreo release. All we heard about were test versions.
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I was under the impression that the NFound version, while produced by ZTE, is still considered to be beta status.
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Which is where?
There are 3 versions of the A7 and none have an official and public Oreo release. All we heard about were test versions.
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I was under the impression that the NFound version, while produced by ZTE, is still considered to be beta status.
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They ARE beta, but does that make them "fake" Oreo updates? They are real, and they are really good.
The worst complaints I heard were bad battery (In my case that hasn't been apparent) and safetynet not passing, to which there's a fix. Besides that they are probably the best Oreo ROMs out there, with fully working HDR+ (which has been ported since, but still has artifacts on ROMs).
Installing any of those means modding the phone. Not a normal update. I'm still going to wait and see what happens.
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im willing to bet that the axon 9 was already 80-90% done when the ban took place. the real question is how possible is it to ramp back up and make them presuming they did not lay off all of the staff necessary to complete it now that they can use the components required. who knows for sure when and/or if Axon 9 sees the light of day in the US market. i really really hope it does, but at this point, anything is possible.
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on a sales/marketing standpoint they'd want to wait, improve and confirm they're still accepted and trusted by consumers before returning to the market with a pricier flagship product
Getting sick of the on off thing with this. Not looking like they will be back. Seems there's people in US politics hell bent on destroying ZTE.
There goes Oreo official, and the Axon 9.
This will push Chinese companies to go with Mediatek more now in the short term and I expect more Chinese SoC development even with companies not focusing on that yet. It will hurt Qualcomm long term IMO. Mediatek may reverse the decision to not do flagship SoCs with a bigger Chinese market that will result from this as they lose confidence in supply.
Expect Samsung to try to push their Exynos to other brands and I wonder if Huawei will sell to others?
The beta sources are a broken mess. The fact that the Devs have been able to do what they have with what they received is nothing short of a miracle.
Honor's recent decision to end bootloader unlocks for their phones upset the entire community, us included, and we've been working feverishly to get them to change the decision. That said, it takes time for complaints to climb the ladder of such a big company, and we've had to settle for baby steps. :fingers-crossed:
We asked Honor for the reason behind this action and this is what they said:
"\The unlock code application service was closed on May 24th for all Huawei/ Honor products as a security measure and to avoid issues caused by ROM flashing. The decision to close the page ensured Huawei/ Honor could continue to provide an excellent user experience for all global fans.
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XDA Developers are actively engaged in software development and they constantly provide valuable suggestions to optimize Honor products. Based on their feedback, that unlocked bootloaders make it easier for them to develop and create, Honor has decided to re-open bootloader unlock on an exclusive number of codes to the XDA Developer community. :highfive:
The unlock codes are available for download exclusively to XDA Developers on a first-come-first-served basis via this online form....Update: thank you to all that applied for an unlock code. We are no longer taking requests. Unlock codes will be sent out in batches, starting the week of 25 September and continuing until the end of the year. Further instructions will go out via XDA PM asap. . XDA users can apply for the codes using the form and all applicants will have the opportunity to share their feedback. It might take several weeks to receive an unlock code after requesting one, but we'll work with Honor to expedite the process as much as possible.
XDA will continue to work with Honor to give users a strong voice when decisions are made that affect their user experience. Finally, they had this to say:
Honor phones and systems have gone through rigorous testing and improvements, which is why Honor is able to offer great products at good prices for global digital natives.
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svetius said:
Honor's recent decision to end bootloader unlocks for their phones upset the entire community, us included, and we've been working feverishly to get them to change the decision. That said, it takes time for complaints to climb the ladder of such a big company, and we've had to settle for baby steps. :fingers-crossed:
We asked Honor for the reason behind this action and this is what they said:
XDA Developers are actively engaged in software development and they constantly provide valuable suggestions to optimize Honor products. Based on their feedback, that unlocked bootloaders make it easier for them to develop and create, Honor has decided to re-open bootloader unlock on an exclusive number of codes to the XDA Developer community. :highfive:
The unlock codes are available for download exclusively to XDA Developers on a first-come-first-served basis via this online form. XDA users can apply for the codes using the form and all applicants will have the opportunity to share their feedback. It might take several weeks to receive an unlock code after requesting one, but we'll work with Honor to expedite the process as much as possible.
XDA will continue to work with Honor to give users a strong voice when decisions are made that affect their user experience. Finally, they had this to say:
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Only for Honor devices?
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Only for Honor devices?
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Yes.
This is great! +1xp to Honor!
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Well I am a Huawei owner and I already have my code. But I would like to still thank XDA for pushing this, and actually doing something.
Really hoping Huawei will come up with a solution.
To be fair, I kinda understand them. As it is right now, the OS on the phone is way too fragile, and you can end in a permanent brick way too easy.
But that is something they should fix on their end and not punish users for wanting to have control over these great devices.
Like, I love my Mate 10 Pro. It's one of the best on the market I believe. And hell, I am ready to purchase a Mate 20 (Pro?) if it comes out. But only, if we get custom OS support. Don't get me wrong, I actually like EMUI, and I totally don't get the complaints about EMUI. Trust me. If you complain about it, go and try Touchwiz. You will know hell. However, at some point, Huawei will stop providing updates or will focus on later models. At that point, I would still like to stay 'fresh' and have a lean OS. I had an S3 LTE, a Note 2, Note 4, LG G4, LG G Pro 2, and Cyanogen/Lineage and the others have given these devices new life.
Ps.: tl;dr: If we get custom roms, I keep buying them, my family will buy them, my friends will buy. If not, well, we all go to other brands.
This isn't just spitting in the face of users right?
Hope they change the decision and permanent opening bootloader again.
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Well I am a Huawei owner and I already have my code. But I would like to still thank XDA for pushing this, and actually doing something.
Really hoping Huawei will come up with a solution.
To be fair, I kinda understand them. As it is right now, the OS on the phone is way too fragile, and you can end in a permanent brick way too easy.
But that is something they should fix on their end and not punish users for wanting to have control over these great devices.
Like, I love my Mate 10 Pro. It's one of the best on the market I believe. And hell, I am ready to purchase a Mate 20 (Pro?) if it comes out. But only, if we get custom OS support. Don't get me wrong, I actually like EMUI, and I totally don't get the complaints about EMUI. Trust me. If you complain about it, go and try Touchwiz. You will know hell. However, at some point, Huawei will stop providing updates or will focus on later models. At that point, I would still like to stay 'fresh' and have a lean OS. I had an S3 LTE, a Note 2, Note 4, LG G4, LG G Pro 2, and Cyanogen/Lineage and the others have given these devices new life.
Ps.: tl;dr: If we get custom roms, I keep buying them, my family will buy them, my friends will buy. If not, well, we all go to other brands.
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Well I for one do NOT understand them. It's absolutely NONE of their business what we (who paid good money for OUR phones!) do with the devices! If we brick them or whatever breaks - it doesn't concern Huawei at all since it's not covered by any kind of warranty after we unlock the bootloader.
I bought the View 10 ONLY because of the Honor Open Source program and of course right after I got the damn thing everything shut down.
I for one will NOT support a company that treats their paying customers like dirt - this is my first and most definitely LAST Huawei/Honor device unless they do an about face, let us unlock our bootloaders and support custom roms. ?
This is great news. I'm glad that the talks with them went somewhere. Good job guys.
While I truly appreciate the effort from everyone involved in this action, this doesn't help anything. If the devices are not open for everyone, they are not open for anyone.
This is the equivalent of not escalating a situation with an angry customer and giving him what he wants, a special treatment, while all the others won't get it.
That's not fair at all.
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While I truly appreciate the effort from everyone involved in this action, this doesn't help anything. If the devices are not open for everyone, they are not open for anyone.
This is the equivalent of not escalating a situation with an angry customer and giving him what he wants, a special treatment, while all the others won't get it.
That's not fair at all.
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This is hopefully the first step to get this decision reversed at a later stage.
And regarding your analogy comparing this to an angry customer - the people who mainly are concerned by this decision are the people who would come to XDA forums anyway. This decision is more like showing special treatment to a target demographic of angry customers than a single angry customer.
what about Kernel Source codes etc for more recent devices like honor play? are they planing on releasing any?
I'm glad to see a little wiggle room on this. But as Huawei arguably has one of the top devices on market (or so I keep hearing about the P20 Pro) it also starts to make sense.
Here's hoping a good balance can be found.
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Well I for one do NOT understand them. It's absolutely NONE of their business what we (who paid good money for OUR phones!) do with the devices! If we brick them or whatever breaks - it doesn't concern Huawei at all since it's not covered by any kind of warranty after we unlock the bootloader.
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Except you don't, in the EU at least, inspite of Honour / Huawei claims software modification, including unlocking bootloader doesn't invalidate your hardware warranty.
Good to see. Well done to XDA for sticking to their guns and getting Honor to soften their stance.
Hopefully if just the start and it can become a permanent policy and the Huawei side of the business to do the same. (which I heavily doubt they will
) My P20 Pro would be a perfect phone if I could get from EMUI to stock
Hello, XDA
I am a developer, can I get this benefit to unlock the bootloader of my device Honor?
They must have seen aggresive concurrent Xiaomi taking some market share
what about lock code on Honor V10? some people write about not working old codes on ROM FW>=163 version. Via this service, Huawei sent new code for new room or include downgrading to old room warning with code?
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Except you don't, in the EU at least, inspite of Honour / Huawei claims software modification, including unlocking bootloader doesn't invalidate your hardware warranty.
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While that IS true you'll have a hard time getting any repairs done once you unlocked it - and besides, my hardware doesn't break due to me f*cking up by unlocking and flashing custom roms etc. If someone flashes a bad kernel and blows their chip due to overclocking or what have you the repair centers can still tell and refuse a warranty repair.
Either way you look at it - letting us unlock our devices does NOT cost them anything, but it will keep us buying their phones.
An executive order has been signed by Trump banning Huawei in the US...
Also Qualcomm (QCOM) may have to apply for US export licenses to continue supplying technology to Huawei.
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/05/15/tech/trump-executive-order-telecom-security/index.html
Why worry about Huawei when Google, facebook and the countries intelligence are already spying.
I think the problem lies with 5G, Huawei are trying the set up the infrastructure for 5G across Asia, Europe and the US amongst over areas. Which means that they'll have a back door to almost everything connected to 5G.
5G will connect to everything, even LED lights in your home which basically gives them a 3D view of every area 5G covers. Whoever has access to it will know where you are nearly all the time.
The timing makes it obvious the steps against Huawei is derivative of the US trade war with China rather than concerns over spying.
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The timing makes it obvious the steps against Huawei is derivative of the US trade war with China rather than concerns over spying.
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I wonder if it makes sense to care about that. Huawei prices are dropping and people try to sell there used phones. A good moment to buy something like that.
Am I totally wrong in thinking that Trump will probably not stop xda developers from developing updates for Huawei phones? If so I do not care about Huaweis updates or wether they include Gapps
But sadly XDA is not able to develop updates for Huawei beacause of locked bootloader etc, so what you are trying to say is......?
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But sadly XDA is not able to develop updates for Huawei beacause of locked bootloader etc, so what you are trying to say is......?
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I do not own a huawei phone (yet) and am still investigating about existing roms. Is there really no easy way to unlock bootloader for huawei devices in general? That would definitely stop me from buying huawei.
BTW: of you quote me I see your post faster
daniu said:
I do not own a huawei phone (yet) and am still investigating about existing roms. Is there really no easy way to unlock bootloader for huawei devices in general? That would definitely stop me from buying huawei.
BTW: of you quote me I see your post faster
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No there is no easy way, even no way at all at the moment.
I am quite relaxed at the moment, for existing phones there will still be support, future phones could be a HUGE problem. But to be honest, A LOT switch their phones after 2 years or even before, so most people will not be touched by this ban who are currently owning this awesome phone.
I don't think Huawei spies. Even if they did, are they the only big players who do it?
US already spies on their citizens and on the world - Edward Snowden told the world and now he's not allowed back into his country. Facebook also sells your data if you remember that Cambridge Analytica drama.
Do people just forget what's happened?
Agree, i am total sure that Apple has a file with my data and i didn´t even touched an apple device in my life
that doesn´t make spying good, but i also think huawei is not doing more/less than the rest
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No there is no easy way, even no way at all at the moment.
I am quite relaxed at the moment, for existing phones there will still be support, future phones could be a HUGE problem. But to be honest, A LOT switch their phones after 2 years or even before, so most people will not be touched by this ban who are currently owning this awesome phone.
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this is not my attitude towards phones. Mine is rather: use the device until warranty is over (or a bit earlier) then root and install a custom rom and use the phone until it is really dead. Unfortunately it seems like that did not take too long on my Asus Zenfone selfie ...
I also use phones quite long, but really a lot people get a new one every year or every two years by contract. The same people which are now selling their phones because of panic^^
if you plan on using custom rom/modification huawei is not suitable for you, it is just not possible. maybe the android ban will change something, but nobody can say that, you will have to wait to see what will happen.
Since no one else has said it on this thread let me be the first, Trump is an idiot, when he's gone the whole world will be better for it. He can't even honor D-day survivors without making it all about him, the ultimate draft dodger.