Android 9 and regular Security Updates - Huawei MediaPad M5 Questions & Answers

Hello guys,
i am thinking about buying the Huawei M5 Tablet for my girlfriend but i am afraid of Huwaei due to their bad update policy.
- Does anyone know how long they support their devices? More then 1 year?
- How often does Huawei distribute Security Updates? Monthly?
- Any chances of Android 9?
- Will this device support project treble with gsi? This maybe a solution for Android 9.
My current device is a Google Pixel C Tablet and a Google Pixel 1 XL. So i am enjoying the regular security updates.
Right now i am too afraid of buying a closed source Tablet which might will not get any updates!
What do you think?

It will come with Oreo, so its treble enabled thus will get updates pretty fast.

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Honor 9 - Android 8 (Oreo)

Hello when do you get Honor 9 Android 8?
Will there ever be such an update date has there been declared for Europe I am asking.
It is in beta now, so I am assuming after it finishes that.
buchman said:
It is in beta now, so I am assuming after it finishes that.
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In Firmware Finder, there is no beta on Android 8 to get her to see it or later release it?
Unfairand said:
Guys I request everyone not to purchase these honor branded devices, even though they are marketed as flagship killers they won't receive proper updates once the device gets past the 6-9 month period, you can't even expect security updates one has to literally beg them, its better to purchase one plus, Samsung and Sony flagships because they are at least guaranteed to receive security update when ever there is a bug and proper OS upgrades, they ditched their flagship honor 7 from receiving nougat update stating Kirin 935 soc isn't compatible with newer update, similar lines this year they ditched honor 8 which boasts another flagship SOC Kirin 950 , stating the same reason its not compatible with newer Oreo update, so it clearly means that kirin 9xx is a flagship grade chip set series from Huawei which is not supportive for future upgrades? So is it good to buy them even after knowing their compatibility issues with future upgrades? I had invested 29k INR in Nov 2016 during honor 8 launch time, India and purchased this device over one plus 3T trusting their 2 year software update policy and security updates for every 3 months, clearly they cheated me and I regret buying honor 8 using my hard earned money instead of one plus device, so i request everyone to boycott honor devices, but the strange thing is honor mid ranges like 655 equipped devices are confirmed for Oreo, its a clear case of cheating to drive growth of newer flagships by ditching older flagships, Huawei as a brand itself has lot of conspiracies surrounding it, its better if we developer community boycott such brands, Good that US regulatory authorities are imposing ban on huawei, I can see the future of this company going down the drain in the similar way they expanded
I request xda please don't support this brand for monetary gains and spoil your reputation!
You honor 9 won't receive android P , going by the track record of hONOR
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huawei have officially stated that the honor 8 WILL be receiving oreo,
as for the honor 9, it has full support for project treble once it gets oreo (suppose the honor 8 will have that too)
considering oreo beta 2 is taking place at he moment within Europe, i can't expect any more than 1 month until it at least becomes available in the firmwarefinder app
Wow, just wow. Are you on a spam tour? Why do you post this in every honor forum? To bad you're sour about not getting an update. Stop spamming.
How to register to get oreo beta?
For bulgaria no project to beta?
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ambitiousButRubbish said:
huawei have officially stated that the honor 8 WILL be receiving oreo,
as for the honor 9, it has full support for project treble once it gets oreo (suppose the honor 8 will have that too)
considering oreo beta 2 is taking place at he moment within Europe, i can't expect any more than 1 month until it at least becomes available in the firmwarefinder app
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Have you read this ? Honor fails to keep its promise, says Honor 8 will not receive Android 8.0 Oreo from phonearena.
Leonidas.M said:
Have you read this ? Honor fails to keep its promise, says Honor 8 will not receive Android 8.0 Oreo from phonearena.
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Ok, i believe i was mistaken on that one, i was pretty sure i'd read that oreo beta was taking place on both the honor 9 and 8, BUT iv'e just checked and it turns out that the honor 8 isn't officially getting oreo.
Either way, as iv'e already stated, once official oreo for the honor 9 is out, and devs get hold of the source, since its a fully supported treble build, i can only assume the custom ROMs should start to appear.
The SOC in the honor 8 is not too different from the kirin 960 (going by the actual ARM cores used in it 4xA53 in both, though the 950 has 4xA72 rather than A73 in the 960), so i can't see there being too much difficulty in porting the source code for the 960 to the 950 (i'm not proficient in this topic, so please correct me if i'm wrong, I stick to application programming, not OS core stuff)
Either way, I HOPE with project treble porting to different CPUs should be easier than it is now (requiring source code from manufacturer etc...) and hopefully we see some more custom ROMs.
Just waiting for lineage 15...
Manual in finish for oreo on honor 9:
http://download-c1.huawei.com/download/downloadCenter?downloadId=98213
ambitiousButRubbish said:
Ok, i believe i was mistaken on that one, i was pretty sure i'd read that oreo beta was taking place on both the honor 9 and 8, BUT iv'e just checked and it turns out that the honor 8 isn't officially getting oreo.
Either way, as iv'e already stated, once official oreo for the honor 9 is out, and devs get hold of the source, since its a fully supported treble build, i can only assume the custom ROMs should start to appear.
The SOC in the honor 8 is not too different from the kirin 960 (going by the actual ARM cores used in it 4xA53 in both, though the 950 has 4xA72 rather than A73 in the 960), so i can't see there being too much difficulty in porting the source code for the 960 to the 950 (i'm not proficient in this topic, so please correct me if i'm wrong, I stick to application programming, not OS core stuff)
Either way, I HOPE with project treble porting to different CPUs should be easier than it is now (requiring source code from manufacturer etc...) and hopefully we see some more custom ROMs.
Just waiting for lineage 15...
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Well,i just read somewhere and it turned out that Huawei finally decided to keep his promise on honor 8.Is that true?If so we can be more optimistic about our honor 9's Android P:laugh:
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hujialun2002 said:
Well,i just read somewhere and it turned out that Huawei finally decided to keep his promise on honor 8.Is that true?If so we can be more optimistic about our honor 9's Android P:laugh:
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Probably the same thing I saw, plus openkirin released an aosp Oreo build for the honor 8

Android P for Honor 9

https://theleaker.com/huawei-honor-android-p-9-0-update/
It's a bit early to be sure. No one really knows what the final version of android P will bring to the table. Maybe there will be features not compatible with the honor 9 hardware. All in all, until we know what android P will be, there's no way to know if the honor 9 will receive. There will be a million articles speculating on what phone will get what and when, but until there is an official announcement, no one knows.
honestly its well to early to say it would get P or not id be surprised if it did
Of course H9 will get Android P, come on guys, it's very clear with Huawei: Midrange devices get 1 major update, flagships get 2 major updates. Now with project Treble they might raise the update count by 1.

Huawei Mate 10 Pro, where's EMUI 8.1, when is OK Google gonna work, landscape homescr

Hi Members, when are UK HM10pro phone and users going to get the EMUI 8.1 firmware Android update (if ever), why does OK Google still not work, with it still greyed out, why have they still not sorted out having the home screen in landscape view (not just the apps).
I think Huawei leave a previous model behind ,like all Chinese makers, forget about there users of a previous model, and concentrate on there upcoming phone (The Mate 20 Pro)
I have the latest OTA UK user updates, I even tried that Huawei beta program app (load of rubbish, only for Chinese models).
I think this will be my first, and last Huawei phone product, I think I'll stick with Samsung next time (updates always funelled through at some point with them)
If anyone has an idea on resolving these issues, please post (I've done may full phone resets, so don't bother with this suggestion thanks)
I've also emailed Huawei many times about all the above issues, with there finale help being an update will come (or in the next update), this was months ago now, so very unreliable support.
Thanks
Same here. I regret buying mate Pro. Waiting for one plus 6t n I will get rid of this 10 pro. Absolute bollocks
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liviococcia said:
Hi Members, when are UK HM10pro phone and users going to get the EMUI 8.1 firmware Android update (if ever), why does OK Google still not work, with it still greyed out, why have they still not sorted out having the home screen in landscape view (not just the apps).
I think Huawei leave a previous model behind ,like all Chinese makers, forget about there users of a previous model, and concentrate on there upcoming phone (The Mate 20 Pro)
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Thanks
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Looks like we´ll never get EMUI 8.1 in the west, most likely EMUI 9 on Pie soon, as Pie beta program is running and expected to end Nov-30 so far.
Regarding UK devices, if you have some experience try rebranding to EU, which is constantly updated(on October security patch today). I posted a little guide to go UK -> EU on UK thread, check it out if you´re interested: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77825017&postcount=470
Hi All, thanks for the input and comments, so what it really comes down to is ..."don't buy Huawei again" from the vibes that I'm getting here.
I wouldn't want to do any unlocking and rooting, just to have bug fixed update, which should be offered by the manufacturer as a 'duty bound product service' provider anyway, ..no, this is not acceptable.
My only course of action is not to buy there products again, as a consumer that's the power we all have, and we should invoke this stance buy the casual manner by which Huawei, or anyother manufacturer chooses to do so.
Our mistake as buyers is, that we allow these large profit mongering technology companies to continue.
I don't include the likes of Apple, or Samsung, or Sony, these companies have a strong and proven track record, and in the end, are a safer bet with standing by there technology, and supporting there products a little more.
Thanks you members who posted comments.
Regards
Since getting a Mate 10 in February it has received improved night mode camera, monthly security updates, GPU Turbo (never used this), and face unlock. I am happy with that. Much better than Mate 9 that did not get any new features until Oreo arrived in January, and only security updates every 3 or 4 months. 8.1 is out on Chinese Mate 10 models, and Pie is on the way bring it on
This is for C185 region
OK Google Update
OK Google still not working here in UK, any idea when Mate 10 Pro will get Android Pie?? Im still on Android security Patch 1 June 2018 with no updates available? Anyone got a newer security patch?
Model BLA-L09
EMUI 8.0.0
LG and Samsung are as crap as Huawei for updates.
Good luck ever seeing an update on a LG - the wife's G6 (which was mine before she had it) had no security updates while it ran Android 7, was updated to Oreo, and has had one security update since.

How likely is the Huawei MediaPad M5 8 to get Android 10?

What are the chances? I know it released last year and it has been updated to 9.0, here in the UK anyway. But I want to know if it is future proof for at least the next android version. How are Huawei with updates?
My answer is based on someone in the US with a US M5, there is not a snowflakes chance in hell it's getting it. [emoji3]
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To get 10 you first need to get 9.
rmartinezdl said:
To get 10 you first need to get 9.
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9 is rolled out widely, but in the US. Nevertheless I doubt that we will see Android 10 from Huawei. Lucky are only those who were able to unlock their bootloader as they can use the GS images and will probably have Android 11 and ...
I saw a list of devices getting the emui 10 and only the Mediapad M6 was on it, so highly unlikely the M5 will ever see it.
haha doubt it, mine haven't even been updated to android 9... Never mind 10, its the 4g model... last update was August security patches
It's a great little tablet but still being stuck with 8 (here in the US, anyway) sucks. That lack of continuity among devices (10 on my Pixel 3XL and 4XL) is probably the most frustrating thing about living in the Android ecosystem.
My M5 10 has had official Android 9.1 for quite a while now. My latest security patch is from october this year.
I have read that the M5 Lite 8 has Android 10 available as beta in some zones, although I don't know if the sources are good.
SnowmanDK said:
My M5 10 has had official Android 9.1 for quite a while now. My latest security patch is from october this year.
I have read that the M5 Lite 8 has Android 10 available as beta in some zones, although I don't know if the sources are good.
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Hi,
can you post the source please?
I have M5 10.8 LTE and I have EMUI9.1 since August 2019 and still received a few day ago security patch october 2019.
I have no insider knowledge on this, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility. On one hand Huawei have released a comprehensive list of devices to get 10 and the M5 isn't on it. But on the other hand, Huawei have a reputation to fix after the Trump/Google ban debacle, and the pinned tweet on their UK Twitter account says that they are committed to Android updates for existing devices. It wouldn't surprise me if they extend their 10 rollout just to rebuild their rep.
I inquired Huawei UK regarding EMUI 10 (as I asked specifically for my 8.5 LTE) and the customer support replied regarding the matter and said that "the software should be with you by the end of January (2020)."

Will we get Android 11 or not. [MIUI based or Custom ROM based]

Yeah yeah. I know that we've seen the news about Poco and other 845 SoC based phone from Mi Series. Since the rollout of Android 11 on Pixel devices few days ago, there are many new features on Android 11 that I would like to add on Poco but since that Xiaomi promised us to get two major os updates (which are Android P and Android Q) it will most likely will stop on Android Q. But I have high hopes for Poco getting Android 11, MIUI based or not.
What are your thoughts about this?
Xiaomi has already cleared that poco f1 isn't getting android 11. It's not on their roadmap. We'll get miui 12 and maybe even 13 looking at the past experience. MIUI version are major upgrades for Xiaomi phones. Android versions like 9.0, 10.0 are practically just numbers to show off and that hardly adds any features on xiaomi phones.
I created petition on change.org for android 11.
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You're on xda forums not miui. The one thing you should be worried about is device sources and community developer support not miui.
EP21 said:
You're on xda forums not miui. The one thing you should be worried about is device sources and community developer support not miui.
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Yes I'm fully aware of that. But even though if I posted this on MIUI Forums, I still get the same answers from both Forums.
I highly doubt that someone can use blobs from MIUI 12 Android 10 to start from scratch to build a port to Android 11.
I forgot what device that was, I've experienced this coming back from 2018 when they used blobs from Android M to port and build Android N and that was stable enough they officially launched an official build.
Maybe my intuition was wrong or not, maybe someone from the Poco dev or even from the Poco community might wanna build and port Android 11 and might be one of the biggest breakthroughs of all time. Of course if it is stable enough to be a daily driver. I know that it is hard because of lack of blobs coming from Xiaomi's MIUI but maybe, someone will do it.
lockhrt999 said:
Xiaomi has already cleared that poco f1 isn't getting android 11. It's not on their roadmap. We'll get miui 12 and maybe even 13 looking at the past experience. MIUI version are major upgrades for Xiaomi phones. Android versions like 9.0, 10.0 are practically just numbers to show off and that hardly adds any features on xiaomi phones.
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Yeah, Android 9 and 10 is kinda bummer because of lack of feature other than setting apps permissions which is great for me.
Android 11 has tons of new features like their improved privacy app features, the new smart device control quick settings which I really need because I have smart devices at home, improved notification and more.
I know these things can be treated on 3rd party apps but who wants to add more apps on their phone and maybe eat the battery on the background.
Darklouis said:
Yeah, Android 9 and 10 is kinda bummer because of lack of feature other than setting apps permissions which is great for me.
Android 11 has tons of new features like their improved privacy app features, the new smart device control quick settings which I really need because I have smart devices at home, improved notification and more.
I know these things can be treated on 3rd party apps but who wants to add more apps on their phone and maybe eat the battery on the background.
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This is highly unlikely. Check piunikaweb they already mentioned there that a moderator from MIUI forums clarified that we'll get miui12, but unlikely to get Android 11. If you really want 11. Then wait for custom ROMS, but it may not be full MIUI Android 11 ports, rather from Pixel ports (one has already been released)
mecoromeo said:
This is highly unlikely. Check piunikaweb they already mentioned there that a moderator from MIUI forums clarified that we'll get miui12, but unlikely to get Android 11. If you really want 11. Then wait for custom ROMS, but it may not be full MIUI Android 11 ports, rather from Pixel ports (one has already been released)
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Yeah. Hopefully. Even if it is a port, or a custom ROM, I would still install that on my device.
Darklouis said:
Yeah, Android 9 and 10 is kinda bummer because of lack of feature other than setting apps permissions which is great for me.
Android 11 has tons of new features like their improved privacy app features, the new smart device control quick settings which I really need because I have smart devices at home, improved notification and more.
I know these things can be treated on 3rd party apps but who wants to add more apps on their phone and maybe eat the battery on the background.
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You misunderstand me. Even if they give android 11, the actual features don't arrive with the update. You will have to wait couple of years more to see native features of android 11 to implement into their MIUI ecosystem.
For example, custom DNS was introduced with Android 7.0 or 8.0 but it really came to xiaomi devices with MIUI 11 in 2020 year only.
On Xiaomi devices going from android 10 or 11 is as unsubstantial like changing security patch from august to september. Most of the people won't notice anything different.
We will 100% get Android 11 as a custom rom. As a matter of fact, it already is a thing. (Search xda) We won't get it officially as all non-pixel devices get only 2 android upgrades.
As far as XDA is there with active dev's updates offically from miui isn't a big deal for me ! Although our dev's are far more better than offical miui cause custom Rom are becoming far more Stabler than stock and in features . :fingers-crossed:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/development/rom-reloadedos-t4162237 11 is out for poco f1. Like i said, who needs xiaomis miui updates when you have xda. Long live the aftermarket software scene.

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