Honor 5x is reaching its two year mark, I was curious to know what people thought of the Huawei's performance in regards to updates? In a blog post on the Huawei site, Huawei promises to provide feature update for 2 years from release and then provide security update for a unspecified amount of time.
For their feature upgrades, it appears that they upgrade to Mashmallow, but then failed to update to Nougat because Google failed to support their device's upgrade to Nougat (!?).
So how well have Huawei performed compare to their competitors? Based on info on the T-mobile website, it would appear that most phone get quarterly updates for roughly 3 years.
Paul
paul.siu said:
Honor 5x is reaching its two year mark, I was curious to know what people thought of the Huawei's performance in regards to updates? In a blog post on the Huawei site, Huawei promises to provide feature update for 2 years from release and then provide security update for a unspecified amount of time.
For their feature upgrades, it appears that they upgrade to Mashmallow, but then failed to update to Nougat because Google failed to support their device's upgrade to Nougat (!?).
So how well have Huawei performed compare to their competitors? Based on info on the T-mobile website, it would appear that most phone get quarterly updates for roughly 3 years.
Paul
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Some variants had no updates for more than 6 months. If I'm not wrong, some even haven't received Marshmallow yet. My L21 (EU) received september patch in november, and here, now it's march of 2017, nothing. One not-working january update (OTA not available, firmware downloaded via FF can't be installed - fails at random percentage, and it's not available as full image) and that's it.
Still, that's much better than my previous experience with LG (phone came with 4.1.2, got only one, buggy update - 4.4.2 a year later, and that was the end of the line, Lollipop came only for Korean variant; bootloader not unlockable, device basically running on hacks (sooo many unnecessary source changes by LG... and device was nearly 3x more the price I paid for L21).
Nougat update wasn't provided because they pushed out Honor 6X on their home-brewed chipset, so I guess 5X is a collateral damage with it's snapdragon requiring Huawei to obtain newer blobs. I guess that's how stuff work.
Luckily, we have good community
While checking I found this URL -
which claims that Android 9.0 update has been rolled out to few test users in China (closed beta group) which indicates we may soon expect the Android 9 hitting a stable release in China followed by global release.
Highlight from GizChina article-
president of Huawei’s mobile phone product line, He Gang, revealed that Huawei Mate 10 Pro, Huawei P20, Honor 10, and Honor V10 models have simultaneously started Android 9 Pie beta testing. He further stated that Huawei’s engineers are already working hard to perfect the system.
According to Huawei’s pollen club’s announcement, the above-mentioned models pushed an internal test version to a small number of pollen users on August 6. The official internal testing recruitment activities for the majority of pollen users will commence as soon as the update is ready.
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According to Google, the new Android 9 Pie has two major upgrades. The first is its support for the recently popularized notch. In the developer mode, the Android 9 Pie system can simulate the notch and optimize the notification bar.
Secondly, the system efficiency is optimized which means that Android 9 Pie takes a shorter time to launch apps and the overall performance is better. At the same time, Android 9 Pie also displays the idle applications using the phone microphone, camera, and other sensors. The security of Android 9 Pie is better than the previous versions.
I found the similar article on GSM Arena: https://m.gsmarena.com/four_huawei_...ing_tested_with_android_90_pie-news-32670.php
I'm really satisfied with these news. Can't wait for the update, although it'll take a while. ?
Even 8.1 is not coming to our device...
Android 9.... by the time should already end of support of the 2 years firmware..
ciew said:
Even 8.1 is not coming to our device...
Android 9.... by the time should already end of support of the 2 years firmware..
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Maybe they'll skip 8.1 and go for 9.0 directly?
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Even 8.1 is not coming to our device...
Android 9.... by the time should already end of support of the 2 years firmware..
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Are you talking about EMUI or the actual version of Android?
The OP is speaking of Android Pie & I'm almost certain all Honor View 10's have been updated to Android 8.1........ Even if Huawei isn't tops in updates, I'd be surprised if this phone doesn't get Android 9.0.
I'd dare say we'll see it on this phone before any Samsung device, but, then again, that's not saying much, LOL....
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Are you talking about EMUI or the actual version of Android?
The OP is speaking of Android Pie & I'm almost certain all Honor View 10's have been updated to Android 8.1........ Even if Huawei isn't tops in updates, I'd be surprised if this phone doesn't get Android 9.0.
I'd dare say we'll see it on this phone before any Samsung device, but, then again, that's not saying much, LOL....
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The European Version of Honor view 10 is still on 8.0, on July Patch. Doesn't matter as im still on May patch because Huawei cant push out a ****ing patch to my phone for no god damn reason
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The European Version of Honor view 10 is still on 8.0, on July Patch. Doesn't matter as im still on May patch because Huawei cant push out a ****ing patch to my phone for no god damn reason
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Is that EMUI 8.0 or Android 8.0
Just asking because the version I have (BKL-L04) has EMUI 8.0,but,is on Android 8.1:
That's Android 8.1 but you have the AMERICAN MODEL, The European version doesn't have android 8.1,
Notice your model is t C567 but mine is c430 which is the Europe version
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That's Android 8.1 but you have the AMERICAN MODEL, The European version doesn't have android 8.1,
Notice your model is t C567 but mine is c430 which is the Europe version
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Yeah,I get that,was just checking that we were talking about the version of Android,not the version of EMUI.
I'm in agreement 100%,there is absolutely no reason for the fragmentation of Android versions on what is virtually the same exact phone.
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Yeah,I get that,was just checking that we were talking about the version of Android,not the version of EMUI.
I'm in agreement 100%,there is absolutely no reason for the fragmentation of Android versions on what is virtually the same exact phone.
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As far as Huawei / Honor is concerned, EMUI 8 has most changes found in Android 8.1 and also the Co. views the incremental updates as a major update. Their phones get two major Android updates and all phones released in 2018, whether with Android 8.0 or 8.1 would directly be updated to Android 9
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As far as Huawei / Honor is concerned, EMUI 8 has most changes found in Android 8.1 and also the Co. views the incremental updates as a major update. Their phones get two major Android updates and all phones released in 2018, whether with Android 8.0 or 8.1 would directly be updated to Android 9
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That may be true,but,it still doesn't explain why the European version is on Android 8.0 & the NA version is on Android 8.1.
It may not matter to you,but,right or wrong,it matters to the end user.
Why give the impression that Huawei values some regions over others,especially on the same device?
It leaves a bad taste in the mouth & may cause some current owners to look elsewhere for their next phone purchase.
Especially w/Huawei's recent climb in market share,it also gives the impression that they don't have to worry about how the end user thinks or feels about their phone.
Along w/the recent policy change regarding the bootloader unlock,those are two areas of great concern to perhaps a small,but,very vocal community of users.......just something to think about.....
While I'm satisfied w/my Honor View 10,I can state it's the last Huawei device I purchase,unless Huawei changes their stance on locked bootloaders................
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That may be true,but,it still doesn't explain why the European version is on Android 8.0 & the NA version is on Android 8.1.
It may not matter to you,but,right or wrong,it matters to the end user.
Why give the impression that Huawei values some regions over others,especially on the same device?
It leaves a bad taste in the mouth & may cause some current owners to look elsewhere for their next phone purchase.
Especially w/Huawei's recent climb in market share,it also gives the impression that they don't have to worry about how the end user thinks or feels about their phone.
Along w/the recent policy change regarding the bootloader unlock,those are two areas of great concern to perhaps a small,but,very vocal community of users.......just something to think about.....
While I'm satisfied w/my Honor View 10,I can state it's the last Huawei device I purchase,unless Huawei changes their stance on locked bootloaders................
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I get your point and I feel the same regarding the bootloader unlocking, but from Huawei's point of view, an unlocked bootloader just stands in their way of already rising security concerns of US and EU on Huawei. Regarding them releasing the same device with different android versions in different markets, it poses an issue only to a small group of people and I agree that it is wrong to other users, but we've been complaining about different regional firmware on Huawei devices since EMUI 4, but they have only turned a cold shoulder. A single international firmware (apart from their Chinese one) would help in faster software updates to all devices.
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I get your point and I feel the same regarding the bootloader unlocking, but from Huawei's point of view, an unlocked bootloader just stands in their way of already rising security concerns of US and EU on Huawei. Regarding them releasing the same device with different android versions in different markets, it poses an issue only to a small group of people and I agree that it is wrong to other users, but we've been complaining about different regional firmware on Huawei devices since EMUI 4, but they have only turned a cold shoulder. A single international firmware (apart from their Chinese one) would help in faster software updates to all devices.
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Your last statement is the head-scratcher(as to why there's not a universal Int'l firmware...................admittedly,Huawei isn't alone here,other mfgs are guilty of the same practice.
If the carriers are involved,as in the US,with their own bloat/etc....... I have to give 'em (Huawei & others) the benefit of the doubt.
If I could disable & re-enable Phone Manager at will w/o root,or,any other system apps (ADB allows for removal,but,a factory reset is needed to bring it back),I could forgo root on this phone.....
EMUI 4,I guess that goes back a ways,LOL,I had a long gap between Huawei Devices : OG Huawei Ascend m860 w/CM7 & some of the more current Huawei/Honor devices.
Have a great weekend! :good:
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Your last statement is the head-scratcher(as to why there's not a universal Int'l firmware...................admittedly,Huawei isn't alone here,other mfgs are guilty of the same practice.
If the carriers are involved,as in the US,with their own bloat/etc....... I have to give 'em (Huawei & others) the benefit of the doubt.
If I could disable & re-enable Phone Manager at will w/o root,or,any other system apps (ADB allows for removal,but,a factory reset is needed to bring it back),I could forgo root on this phone.....
EMUI 4,I guess that goes back a ways,LOL,I had a long gap between Huawei Devices : OG Huawei Ascend m860 w/CM7 & some of the more current Huawei/Honor devices.
Have a great weekend! :good:
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I really don't get Carrier based devices as the specific distribution channel really doesn't work well in Asian markets (I'm from India). I'd really wish if Huawei / Honor took the Oneplus route with a single firmware internationally. Oneplus beats Huawei / Honor in terms of software update reputation mainly because of their ease of updating their devices worldwide. I'd also like to get an android one version of Honor flagships. That'd be great, don't you think?
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I really don't get Carrier based devices as the specific distribution channel really doesn't work well in Asian markets (I'm from India). I'd really wish if Huawei / Honor took the Oneplus route with a single firmware internationally. Oneplus beats Huawei / Honor in terms of software update reputation mainly because of their ease of updating their devices worldwide. I'd also like to get an android one version of Honor flagships. That'd be great, don't you think?
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Now you're talkin', I'd get an Android One Huawei device, with or without root.
I had the Xiaomi Mi A1, that was a nice phone, especially at the price point. :good:
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Masinac85 said:
I found the similar article on GSM Arena: https://m.gsmarena.com/four_huawei_...ing_tested_with_android_90_pie-news-32670.php
I'm really satisfied with these news. Can't wait for the update, although it'll take a while. ?
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Yeah but unfortunately i can't unlock bootloader and debrand to China to use Pie early and will have to wait for update to release for other regions
KOLIOSIS said:
Are you talking about EMUI or the actual version of Android?
The OP is speaking of Android Pie & I'm almost certain all Honor View 10's have been updated to Android 8.1........ Even if Huawei isn't tops in updates, I'd be surprised if this phone doesn't get Android 9.0.
I'd dare say we'll see it on this phone before any Samsung device, but, then again, that's not saying much, LOL....
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Only US on EMUI/android 8.1 (haven't heard of China yet) but others are still on 8.0
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Is that EMUI 8.0 or Android 8.0
Just asking because the version I have (BKL-L04) has EMUI 8.0,but,is on Android 8.1:
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US model was released late directly with 8.1
iamsabresh said:
I get your point and I feel the same regarding the bootloader unlocking, but from Huawei's point of view, an unlocked bootloader just stands in their way of already rising security concerns of US and EU on Huawei.
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I wonder why you and other people thinks bootloader unlocking has something to do with the US and EU security concerns, when it should be the other way around.
If you think about it, it's the other way around, meaning that with an unlockable bootloader, security researchers, NSA, CIA, you name it, could investigate on what's happening under the hood, while with a locked bootloader all this it's very hard to crack.
US was never concerned about Huawei devices being easy to crack because their bootloader can be unlocked, but their concerns were about China spying on US citizens, government, etc. Same goes with EU.
What would help Huawei, is open sourcing their chipset, being more transparent to the eye of the security researchers and developers, not closing their system even more.
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Only US on EMUI/android 8.1 (haven't heard of China yet) but others are still on 8.0
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Your comment hammers home my point,the phone was released elsewhere 1st & stands to reason that earlier adopters would have 8.1 before the newer regions.
The explanation given earlier ,that the latest EMUI has all the features of Android 8.1,regardless of which version of Android you're running,is illogical.
If that's the case,then why would Huawei bother with an updated version of Android on one region & not others.
It's crazy,so,that is why one with a model running Android 8.1 would make the assumption the other regions are on the same version......
Yes,I'm sure it's been discussed here in other threads & I've missed that discrepancy,obviously,until now.
I have no complaints w/the phone,one of the best overall I've owned,especially with the price of admission,so,I haven't had the need to read every thread & response.......
Will the honor 9 get EMUI 9? Various reports differ.
They previously said honor 9 will get pie in a second wave.
First wave, for honor 10 / P20 and some others, is now advertised to be coming this weekend, at least for chinese firmwares.
I'd predict q1 of 2019
Try this link? https://consumer.huawei.com/en/support/fut/
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At least in Germany, maybe more european regions, a Beta is starting today, called DE-Honor9-EMUI9-FUT.
Seems to be limited to 200 users.
Same in Italy with a different name
So, the 200 slots for the German project are filled, now i am curious how this will work out.
Wonder if this is where we start to see project treble being used by honor on the 9
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Wonder if this is where we start to see project treble being used by honor on the 9
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So far I know, treble was introduced with Android 8.0 (Emui 8) on this device.
Treble is being used. That's how I actually go a security update in the month it was issued. (377 on the 28th).
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At least in Germany, maybe more european regions, a Beta is starting today, called DE-Honor9-EMUI9-FUT.
Seems to be limited to 200 users.
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Is the image available somwere and is it possible to install without being a member of the beta group?
well I'm #2 in BETA-Slot and I'm still on "pending", didn't receive beta update yet.
I too had a very early slot (<10) in the beta-project, but right now i cannot even see it in "avaiable projects" anymore, which is a bit strange.
in what firmware you were before entering the beta program? i´m on 377 and the beta doesn´t appear to me.
I was on 377 too ... and unluckily, i still am.
The FR friendly user test also just disappeared from the Beta app. Currently 26 participants so I thought I would be in today
As for me, the (German) Beta still shows in the app, also the message that I applied and it's now on waiting for approval... which will probably never gonna happen, as it says, the 200 slots are already full.
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well I'm #2 in BETA-Slot and I'm still on "pending", didn't receive beta update yet.
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it is the same for me still pending
I'm curious to see if this device and devices which got upgraded to Treble by Huawei will receive more updates than usual (2 major versions on high end/1 version in midrange-low end). If they will continue to follow the old trend, EMUI9 with Android 9 is the last major version upgrade this device will see from Huawei. After the bootloader fiasco they should support at least another major version, to make up for the inconvenience, but we are talking about a chinese money making machine, which only cares about money, so will see.
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... (2 major versions on high end/1 version in midrange-low end). ..
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Considering the Honor 9 being a midrange product, i assume, the now coming second major update already is the "benefit" of project treble. I doubt a third one will reach us, but i would not mind being wrong on that point.
Dear All Mate 10 Users,
I have updated to EMUI 9 (c185) using HiCare app (2 days Back) . I was really looking for google AR core and apps that measure stuff. I am disappointed. Any Solutions? I have never rooted this Mobile and I don't know if rooting is worth it or not (Kindly Guide)
I have gotten Super Slow Motion 940Fps Recording with the update (not sure if EMUI 9 brought it or it was there from before) but I dont like the new interface for camera. I am yet to notice any bad battery backup problem and I'll update on it shortly as well.
I have noticed that my Wi-fi dropped multiple times .. but it seems to have stabled for now (Don't know how, or whether it'll return back...)
Call Quality .. has gone bad, I mean its sometimes good as before or its all static like ... Noticed it few times (Never Happened Before).
Music Application is PATHETIC. Solution for this is needed in my opinion (What do you guys suggest?) I have spotify on my mobile but I am not an avid user, I don't know how I can use Spotify to play my own offline library..
I've emailed Huawei support and the response was disappointing, I've been waiting the Arcore support since they launched the phone, and really hopped they will give us that at same time with P20 line, (since both lines have the exact same hardware aside the extra lens on the pro models), this was the response:
Dear Mr. Mares, receive a warm greeting from the Huawei team.
We understand the importance of receiving all the updates in your Mate 10 so we inform you that the new updates in which we work will be released as soon as possible, this is done gradually to avoid a congestion on the server at the time of the download and that generates an error in the installation, the updates are send by compilation number, regions, stocks and other variants. The arcore update to create 3D objects for the moment dont have a date to be launch in the Mate 10, we are deeply sorry for the inconveniences.
When the update is ready, automatically your device will indicate by means of a notification via HOTA (Huawei Over The Air) which you only have to accept to start the download and installation.
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I've emailed Huawei support and the response was disappointing, I've been waiting the Arcore support since they launched the phone, and really hopped they will give us that at same time with P20 line, (since both lines have the exact same hardware aside the extra lens on the pro models), this was the response:
Dear Mr. Mares, receive a warm greeting from the Huawei team.
We understand the importance of receiving all the updates in your Mate 10 so we inform you that the new updates in which we work will be released as soon as possible, this is done gradually to avoid a congestion on the server at the time of the download and that generates an error in the installation, the updates are send by compilation number, regions, stocks and other variants. The arcore update to create 3D objects for the moment dont have a date to be launch in the Mate 10, we are deeply sorry for the inconveniences.
When the update is ready, automatically your device will indicate by means of a notification via HOTA (Huawei Over The Air) which you only have to accept to start the download and installation.
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Sad Stuff, I am waiting here
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Sad Stuff, I am waiting here
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i was to, not expecting much from them now
What are the chances? I know it released last year and it has been updated to 9.0, here in the UK anyway. But I want to know if it is future proof for at least the next android version. How are Huawei with updates?
My answer is based on someone in the US with a US M5, there is not a snowflakes chance in hell it's getting it. [emoji3]
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To get 10 you first need to get 9.
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To get 10 you first need to get 9.
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9 is rolled out widely, but in the US. Nevertheless I doubt that we will see Android 10 from Huawei. Lucky are only those who were able to unlock their bootloader as they can use the GS images and will probably have Android 11 and ...
I saw a list of devices getting the emui 10 and only the Mediapad M6 was on it, so highly unlikely the M5 will ever see it.
haha doubt it, mine haven't even been updated to android 9... Never mind 10, its the 4g model... last update was August security patches
It's a great little tablet but still being stuck with 8 (here in the US, anyway) sucks. That lack of continuity among devices (10 on my Pixel 3XL and 4XL) is probably the most frustrating thing about living in the Android ecosystem.
My M5 10 has had official Android 9.1 for quite a while now. My latest security patch is from october this year.
I have read that the M5 Lite 8 has Android 10 available as beta in some zones, although I don't know if the sources are good.
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My M5 10 has had official Android 9.1 for quite a while now. My latest security patch is from october this year.
I have read that the M5 Lite 8 has Android 10 available as beta in some zones, although I don't know if the sources are good.
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Hi,
can you post the source please?
I have M5 10.8 LTE and I have EMUI9.1 since August 2019 and still received a few day ago security patch october 2019.
I have no insider knowledge on this, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility. On one hand Huawei have released a comprehensive list of devices to get 10 and the M5 isn't on it. But on the other hand, Huawei have a reputation to fix after the Trump/Google ban debacle, and the pinned tweet on their UK Twitter account says that they are committed to Android updates for existing devices. It wouldn't surprise me if they extend their 10 rollout just to rebuild their rep.
I inquired Huawei UK regarding EMUI 10 (as I asked specifically for my 8.5 LTE) and the customer support replied regarding the matter and said that "the software should be with you by the end of January (2020)."