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Hi Everyone! Huawei P20 was just launched today, looking at the specs --- I can't see much difference besides the Camera, do you think its possible to port its camera and so called "Master AI"?
Thanks!
Why only the camera? It should be possible to port over all of the software.
I think that Huawei should really provide an upgrade to 8.1 and all of the new software functionality. Pretty horrible to release a flagship phone and 6 months later simply forget about it.
Update: The camera app seems to be already available in a leak, see
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8-pro/how-to/firmware-leak-t3760517
I'm pretty sure the mate 10 will get 8.1 in the next few months
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I'm pretty sure the mate 10 will get 8.1 in the next few months
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****few months .... ya but in a few months android 9 will be released and maybe we will get it in april 2019! I don't like Huawei updates nor sammy's ... i really hope nokia will release a proper flagship soon... android one is the way....
Mate 9 never got EMUI 5.1 / Android 7.1 that came out with P10 and P10 Pro
Relax, this is the first phone that gets android 8.1+ NNAPI integration and not just a simple 8.1 like nokia and essential did. Basically as the guy said above with the leaks, all of the new features of the P20 are coming to us and that takes some time to implement. Granted our brand new mate 10 pro aka huawei's flagship feels obsolate, outdated and lacking in hardware compared to the P20 series(speakers, wireless charge, bigger sensor, laser) but that will soon change in some part with android 8.1.. Hold your wallets and do patiense like we all do
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Relax, this is the first phone that gets android 8.1+ NNAPI integration and not just a simple 8.1 like nokia and essential did. Basically as the guy said above with the leaks, all of the new features of the P20 are coming to us and that takes some time to implement. Granted our brand new mate 10 pro aka huawei's flagship feels obsolate, outdated and lacking in hardware compared to the P20 series(speakers, wireless charge, bigger sensor, laser) but that will soon change in some part with android 8.1.. Hold your wallets and do patiense like we all do
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How do you know all the new features of the P20 will come to the Mate 10?
@tboy2000: Huawei Mate 10 to get P20 AI features with Android 8.1
We have internal beta builds of 8.1 for the Mate 10 (non-Pro Chinese version) so they are being developed.
That being said, with the Mate 9 we also had internal builds of EMUI 5.1, but it was never released.
Most likely time to get the enhancements publicly is when Android P rolls out.
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@tboy2000: Huawei Mate 10 to get P20 AI features with Android 8.1
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Thanks. So it's not 'all the new features' of the P20. It's just some extra AI scenes. He did not confirm face unlock, super slow motion, AIS, etc etc
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Thanks. So it's not 'all the new features' of the P20. It's just some extra AI scenes. He did not confirm face unlock, super slow motion, AIS, etc etc
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Ofc its NOT ALL THE FEATURES of the P20, because some of them are hardware dependent, which Mate 10 Pro don`t have
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Ofc its NOT ALL THE FEATURES of the P20, because some of them are hardware dependent, which Mate 10 Pro don`t have
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I was just quoting Aethergr who said "all the features". I know some features are hardware dependant. Ok?
mrabcx said:
Why only the camera? It should be possible to port over all of the software.
I think that Huawei should really provide an upgrade to 8.1 and all of the new software functionality. Pretty horrible to release a flagship phone and 6 months later simply forget about it.
Update: The camera app seems to be already available in a leak, see
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8-pro/how-to/firmware-leak-t3760517
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Has anyone tried to flash this camera?
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Mate 9 never got EMUI 5.1 / Android 7.1 that came out with P10 and P10 Pro
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P10/P10Plus never got Android 7.1, I don't know what world you live in, but in our world neither P10 Pro nor ANY Huawei P/Mate with OEM Android 7.1 exists.
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Ofc its NOT ALL THE FEATURES of the P20, because some of them are hardware dependent, which Mate 10 Pro don`t have
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Actually NONE of the P20 AI features is hardware dependent compared to Mate 10/Pro, AIS is a software solution, it just needed to account for OIS which isn't hard. P20 Pro is a different story.
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P10/P10Plus never got Android 7.1, I don't know what world you live in, but in our world neither P10 Pro nor ANY Huawei P/Mate with OEM Android 7.1 exists.
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Actually NONE of the P20 AI features is hardware dependent compared to Mate 10/Pro, AIS is a software solution, it just needed to account for OIS which isn't hard. P20 Pro is a different story.
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think again the option to record in 960 fps is hardware dependent along with a few other modes
Is it working on mate 10?
Camera was 'ported' (it works simply by replacing hwcamera2 in /product/app/) right after firmware was leaked.
Here's a Magisk module if anyone wants it: https://mega.nz/#!peB21LaS!BS_5OIn6_eG4U8PRZCEzd6wdZCftANdHiIyZbFTiE8k
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Camera was 'ported' (it works simply by replacing hwcamera2 in /product/app/) right after firmware was leaked.
Here's a Magisk module if anyone wants it: https://mega.nz/#!peB21LaS!BS_5OIn6_eG4U8PRZCEzd6wdZCftANdHiIyZbFTiE8k
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Waiting for this, you are a bit late here to share the magisk for camera but a big thanks for you.
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Waiting for this, you are a bit late here to share the magisk for camera but a big thanks for you.
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I saw this thread today
The P20 Camera app looks nicer at least
Hello, I was interested flashing the port however I'm kinda stuck whether if I root my phone (includes unlocking bootloader) will I still be able to receive and flash updates thru the updates checker? Or every time update is installed, I'll have to reroot it again. Recently came from note 3, flashing and doing things in Huawei are kinda different. I bricked my Note 3 several times and used odin tons of times so makes me think twice before doing things bec not much of stock firmware is available for flashing
Which one should i get? They're roughly the same price in my country. I need a phone for at least 2-3years.
Well depends what you want from your phone.
I see a lot of advantages on the OP6.
The SD845 overall performance seems to be better than the Kirin 970, you have the option of 255GB for internal storage, besides the software is less intrusive style wise but also functionality wise.
But, the Mate has better cameras, it's a Android Enterprise Recommended phone, that means that you will get at least one security patch every 90 days for 2 years at least and at least 1 major OS update.
Other hardware features are better water protection and USB 3.0.
That said OnePlus track record of updating isn't that bad, but there's no promises from their side.
And last but not least, if you have any desire to do stuff with custom roms, rooting, etc... You'll wanna go OnePlus.
oneplus updating is spectacular.
I have the 3T and The 5T and both are still updated at least twice a month.
If battery life is the main concern, then the Mate 10 Pro may well be the better bet. I can get consistent 6+ hours of Screen on Time and mostly a full day of hard usage. It's about the only thing keeping me from staying with my M10P though. I got a deal that means I will pay significantly less for it than an upfront OP6 too. It may well be that the Mate 10 Pro will drop further as we get towards the Mate 20 launch in October.
The camera is good, but tends to over do the processing when in auto mode. It does have one of the best Pro modes though if you like to fiddle.
If you do get a Mate 10 Pro, make sure its a C432 model or one of the ones that are regularly updated - my C782 model is still on March 1st security update and I have no confidence that will improve once the Mate 20 is out.
If you have any interest in custom ROMS after that 2 years when you still have perfectly functioning hardware, then OnePlus is almost certainly the way to go - it seems to be one of the few flagships left that has a very active ROM development and Huawei have now shot down any claim to interest in that by withdrawing bootloader unlock.
I 'upgraded' from a OnePlus One running an 8.1 custom ROM that had worked perfectly except for the poor battery life - until it fell in the toilet! (Actually a replacement speaker later and it's still working fine and on a later version of Android that my M10P). There will certainly be options to run the latest software on a OnePlus 6 in 3 years, whereas you will likely be out of luck with the Mate 10 Pro. The camera sucked on the OPO, but I gather it is at least acceptable on the OP6
Software may not be a key concern - actually I can live with EMUI and it has some nice extra 'assistance' touches, but it also has flaky bluetooth in my experience and the over eager power management drives me crazy trying to use things like Tasker.
tl;dr - If you need the battery, go with Mate 10 Pro - if you don't care about the best camera possible, or ever want to go the custom rom route, go with OP6.
One plus 6 hands down, save your self the head ache of Huawei
340 $ for Mate 10 Pro
550 $ for Oneplus 6
Witch one would you choose?
Lilholt1962 said:
340 $ for Mate 10 Pro
550 $ for Oneplus 6
Witch one would you choose?
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Mate 10 pro atw
Lilholt1962 said:
340 $ for Mate 10 Pro
550 $ for Oneplus 6
Witch one would you choose?
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For a price difference like that Mate 10 pro
didnt use OPO but did use xiaomi mi note 2 phone and now bought mate 10 pro, I also didnt know and have second thoughts about buying OPO 6 or M10pro. so at the end bought M10pro and so far can say the phone is ok but considering rooting installing TWRP and custom roms seems to be little complicated because, after reading xda, bunch of people have bricked they device. now I like to have rooted phone and installed custom rom, lineage os or Aosp extended, but that is not gona happen on this phone so if you like to have rooted phone and have custom roms buy OPO6 definitely, its not everyting in camera. PS emui is quite lagy some times and still needs improvement.
if it matters... the op5t has bluetooth issues with fitbit, not sure if op6 changed but likely issues remain
not sure if fitbit would make a difference, but who knows what other devices may or may not work well. op5t also has issues with car bluetooth, mate10 has none of the issues with the two devices.
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well depends what you want from your phone.
I see a lot of advantages on the op6.
The sd845 overall performance seems to be better than the kirin 970, you have the option of 255gb for internal storage, besides the software is less intrusive style wise but also functionality wise.
But, the mate has better cameras, it's a android enterprise recommended phone, that means that you will get at least one security patch every 90 days for 2 years at least and at least 1 major os update.
Other hardware features are better water protection and usb 3.0.
That said oneplus track record of updating isn't that bad, but there's no promises from their side.
And last but not least, if you have any desire to do stuff with custom roms, rooting, etc... You'll wanna go oneplus.
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usb3.1 iirc
I also bought the mate10pro, big mistake! It was on a pre 8.0.0.146 version with magisk and twrp running fine. Installed xposed, got a bootloop, did a erecovery rescue to factory emui 8, after that applied the latest ota to emui 9 which was the worst thing to do. Got the new bootloader and because the original was unlocked the phone bricked. Back to erecovery and no rescue... tried everything but no luck, so now it's worthless. It may have a very niche leica camera but that won't do any good if you can't recovery the phone. Huawei sucks in every way, just look at how they killed any development other than their own.
So now I ordered the OP 6 which has a very shiny development community, I won't have any worries about being stuck with another paperweight, and if I want a good camera I'll pickup my nikon fullframe dslr, no phone beats that.
I wouldnt go with Huawei if you rely on mods. No real custom rom beside openkirin. No real custom kernel. V4A not working, Dolby Atmos works only on oreo based custom roms. You dont get unlock code from Huawei anymore. You can grab your unlock code via paid services. Alone, when the partition oeminfo gets damaged and your bootloader is locked, your unlock code will not work, erecovery will not work etc DC could fix such bricks but now after the .b145 c432 firmware, they patched it. After B146 you cant downgrade. No real/outdated kernel sources. I recommend this device only for normal conusmers, who dont intend to root this phone. I left Samsung because of adding the knox warranty void string, now leaving Huawei because of the reason I told above.
Oneplus phones have very high SAR values... Be careful
Mate 10 (non-pro) would really last you 2-3yrs because amoled burn (it really is an issue) wouldn't affect you.
I have a mate 10 (non pro) I am trying to sell. Mint condition with the fancy smart flip case. I have a note 9 now so don't need it. Currently has an armorsuit clear skin on it.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/233114506347
mirandam said:
I also bought the mate10pro, big mistake! It was on a pre 8.0.0.146 version with magisk and twrp running fine. Installed xposed, got a bootloop, did a erecovery rescue to factory emui 8, after that applied the latest ota to emui 9 which was the worst thing to do. Got the new bootloader and because the original was unlocked the phone bricked. Back to erecovery and no rescue... tried everything but no luck, so now it's worthless. It may have a very niche leica camera but that won't do any good if you can't recovery the phone. Huawei sucks in every way, just look at how they killed any development other than their own.
So now I ordered the OP 6 which has a very shiny development community, I won't have any worries about being stuck with another paperweight, and if I want a good camera I'll pickup my nikon fullframe dslr, no phone beats that.
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are you lucky with your decision? I have a Mate 10 Pro and want to get a 1+6 or 1+6t and some personal feedback (accu for example) would be great.
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are you lucky with your decision? I have a Mate 10 Pro and want to get a 1+6 or 1+6t and some personal feedback (accu for example) would be great.
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Some years later, a reply. YES, I went to OP6 (I still have it working) and later to OP7pro (also still working) and now I'm on OP8 with AICP17.1 (android 12) fully loaded, rooted all working perfectly. Never regretted the change to OnePlus, excellent value for money and excellent support community, very recommendable for custom roms etc. If ever you brick it (happend a few times to me) you get your MSMtool out and bring it back to life in no time.
btw, my mate10pro was still within guarantee, so I sent it back to the seller, took a few months because they tried to recover it, didn't work and I got a full refund.
Hi Members, when are UK HM10pro phone and users going to get the EMUI 8.1 firmware Android update (if ever), why does OK Google still not work, with it still greyed out, why have they still not sorted out having the home screen in landscape view (not just the apps).
I think Huawei leave a previous model behind ,like all Chinese makers, forget about there users of a previous model, and concentrate on there upcoming phone (The Mate 20 Pro)
I have the latest OTA UK user updates, I even tried that Huawei beta program app (load of rubbish, only for Chinese models).
I think this will be my first, and last Huawei phone product, I think I'll stick with Samsung next time (updates always funelled through at some point with them)
If anyone has an idea on resolving these issues, please post (I've done may full phone resets, so don't bother with this suggestion thanks)
I've also emailed Huawei many times about all the above issues, with there finale help being an update will come (or in the next update), this was months ago now, so very unreliable support.
Thanks
Same here. I regret buying mate Pro. Waiting for one plus 6t n I will get rid of this 10 pro. Absolute bollocks
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Hi Members, when are UK HM10pro phone and users going to get the EMUI 8.1 firmware Android update (if ever), why does OK Google still not work, with it still greyed out, why have they still not sorted out having the home screen in landscape view (not just the apps).
I think Huawei leave a previous model behind ,like all Chinese makers, forget about there users of a previous model, and concentrate on there upcoming phone (The Mate 20 Pro)
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Looks like we´ll never get EMUI 8.1 in the west, most likely EMUI 9 on Pie soon, as Pie beta program is running and expected to end Nov-30 so far.
Regarding UK devices, if you have some experience try rebranding to EU, which is constantly updated(on October security patch today). I posted a little guide to go UK -> EU on UK thread, check it out if you´re interested: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77825017&postcount=470
Hi All, thanks for the input and comments, so what it really comes down to is ..."don't buy Huawei again" from the vibes that I'm getting here.
I wouldn't want to do any unlocking and rooting, just to have bug fixed update, which should be offered by the manufacturer as a 'duty bound product service' provider anyway, ..no, this is not acceptable.
My only course of action is not to buy there products again, as a consumer that's the power we all have, and we should invoke this stance buy the casual manner by which Huawei, or anyother manufacturer chooses to do so.
Our mistake as buyers is, that we allow these large profit mongering technology companies to continue.
I don't include the likes of Apple, or Samsung, or Sony, these companies have a strong and proven track record, and in the end, are a safer bet with standing by there technology, and supporting there products a little more.
Thanks you members who posted comments.
Regards
Since getting a Mate 10 in February it has received improved night mode camera, monthly security updates, GPU Turbo (never used this), and face unlock. I am happy with that. Much better than Mate 9 that did not get any new features until Oreo arrived in January, and only security updates every 3 or 4 months. 8.1 is out on Chinese Mate 10 models, and Pie is on the way bring it on
This is for C185 region
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OK Google still not working here in UK, any idea when Mate 10 Pro will get Android Pie?? Im still on Android security Patch 1 June 2018 with no updates available? Anyone got a newer security patch?
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EMUI 8.0.0
LG and Samsung are as crap as Huawei for updates.
Good luck ever seeing an update on a LG - the wife's G6 (which was mine before she had it) had no security updates while it ran Android 7, was updated to Oreo, and has had one security update since.
I need to buy a phone soon. Wife cracked her screen and I will be giving her my mate 9 that I've been pretty happy with.
So I'm looking to buy either a mate 10 pro which is $470 on Amazon or the new OP6T. I've tried both of them out and the 6T is looking very sexy and modern but I reckon that feeling will wear off in a few days. I feel like the 10 pro may have better battery and camera.
Which bring me to my criteria. I need dual sim, good battery and camera and I don't root etc and don't have a problem with Emui.
Thoughts?
Mate 10 Pro have a better camera and better battery.
OP6T looks very good ..
In my opinion (I rooting all my phones).. I don't buy Huawei phone because has removed the community due to blocking access to the bootloader
OP 6T if you don't mind the battery. There's the Google Camera port for the OP 6T plus it supports 4K EIS for video recording. Also the 845 is better than the kirin 970
Well the 6T has an iffy fingerprint reader, the camera sucks (and it's not just the software) and just installing a port of the Google camera doesn't fix that. As far as the CPU goes, that's kind of subjective, the Kirin 970 is a very capable processor. The Kirin 970 has their advanced modem and will give you very good LTE speeds (I'm getting between 45 to 90mbps versus 18 to 24mbps with my mate 9) For a dual SIM phone I would really go with the mate 10 pro BLA-L29 international model, just remember that if you're in the US it won't have any warranty
I like the normal mate 10 over the mate 10 pro. Has headphone jack and front finger print sensor that acts as the 3 buttons too
Granted I don't have a pro version to compare against except on paper specs...
Appreciate the answers. The more I want to get the OP6T the more the 10 pro is looking better. Did the 10 pro dual sim version get the P20 pro night mode? If it did is it as good?
stay away from huawei after closed unlock bootloader service, and also there's no supporting for it,, and if you insist on mate 10 pro stay with Chinese version they have all support for OTA update.
OnePlus 6T is better with SD845 you'll have a lot of supporting from Developers, rom's, kernels, tweaks,, a lots of things.
i bought mate 10, 128G and 6Gb ram and i hate it after fkng huawei closed unlock service.
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stay away from huawei after closed unlock bootloader service, and also there's no supporting for it,, and if you incest on mate 10 pro stay with Chinese version they have all support for OTA update.
OnePlus 6T is better with SD845 you'll have a lot of supporting from Developers, rom's, kernels, tweaks,, a lots of things.
i bought mate 10, 128G and 6Gb ram and i hate it after fkng huawei closed unlock service.
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Why do you assume everyone cares if the bootloader is locked?
IMO the mate 10 pro has better battery life, better camera, and is waterproof (plus I actually like EMUI and its features)
I have the mate 10 pro, battery is very good, but the most you get with pro mode and playing around with many settings... It's not the easy quick perfect picture camera. It has received many updates and it's camera is very capable (night mode of course is not as good as p20pro, it's got different sensors)
The op6t camera is very good. Some people here said it's trash but they are talking Bs. Just take a look for yourself and Google samples from op6 or 6t users. It's a great camera.
But I would go with the op6t any day. The kirin 970 is good on paper and benchmarks but it overheats very fast, I cannot play pubg on lowest settings after 10min it thermothrottles and fps drop. The op6t just has the newer gen CPU which will be important going forward if you are going to keep the phone for 3+ years.
The op6t battery is very similar in size I don't think the difference should be too big to be a deciding factor. Both have fast face unlock though the fingerprint reader ist different. Decide what you like better.
All in all I think op6t is the more up to date phone which will also receive more updates and has better hardware for the upcoming 3years of use. The m10pro is more like the old, strong buddy that can still keep up. But the question is for how long.
I've been using the mate 10 Pro for nearly a year. Mine is running June security update and no software update for 5 months.
I'm selling my mate 10 Pro and buying the OnePlus 6t this week.
I've had enough of Huawei lack of support and updates.
I wouldn't buy Huawei again.
I've been using a regular mate 10 for a year and mine stays up to date. I don't use anything special, the updates just come over the air. It seems some people don't get updates but both my mate 9 and 10 keep getting updates.
What update you are looking for? Mate 10 Pro has all security patches. If you are talking about Android 8.1 it is not that major update and maybe that is why only China models received it. The next Major Android 9 will soon be available and that's what matters.
UK version C782 are still on June security patch and 132. We are 6 months behind with bug fixing updates improvements and most important security! We have been left behind in the UK and that is why we are all jumping ship
10 pro. I already had oneplus devices, and didn't like them as much as I did with the Huawei ones. Imo, the build quality is far better. It's on par with Apple. The camera is fantastic. The battery is a major goal. At first, I was having problems to get use with EMUI, in the end I passed to like it. It's not as good as oxygen os, but it's have been improving. So, I'll keep my 10 pro for more 6 months or a year.
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[...] The kirin 970 is good on paper and benchmarks but it overheats very fast, I cannot play pubg on lowest settings after 10min it thermothrottles and fps drop. The op6t just has the newer gen CPU which will be important going forward if you are going to keep the phone for 3+ years. [...]
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Hu, something's wrong with your device. I play PUBG on higher setting everyday with coworkers at lunch, and I can play at least 30 minutes (since pause are not longer than that) consuming only 13% battery (not from 100%) and getting a 30-35°C that is not so hot, comparing to iPhone 8S that drain twice as much and can be barely kept in hand for the same lenght of time. Maybe some phone are better, but well, mate 10 pro is really good a handling games. My nintendo switch got hotter than that...
That said, I do not like the overhsarpening/oil-ing effect of the camera, so, even mid-tier camera are better for me, I would not go for the mate 10 for the camera.
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UK version C782 are still on June security patch and 132. We are 6 months behind with bug fixing updates improvements and most important security! We have been left behind in the UK and that is why we are all jumping ship
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I'm not, albeit I've rebranded to c432. I had an OP3 and came to Huawei primarily for the battery life, and here the Mate 10 pro still has nearly 10% bigger battery.
tmzbeme said:
Why do you assume everyone cares if the bootloader is locked?
IMO the mate 10 pro has better battery life, better camera, and is waterproof (plus I actually like EMUI and its features)
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as you like,, and you already like it!! and it's just opinion :good: no one force you to not buying it,, for me i like that things like unlocked bootloader and root and play in system and change rom's etc,, and i wish to replace my mate 10 with OnePlust 6t,, or other brand.
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Anything but Huawei. With a custom ROM things are okay, but relying on Huawei to update? Yes, they currently still treat this device as a flagship. But my other phone, a P10 Plus already lagging behind. Luckily I do have the bootloader unlocked on that device, so that's a relief.
If I had to do a comparison, Huawei updates are like Samsung. Be glad if you ever get them. Is OnePlus that great? Nope. Fingerprint sucks, camera sucks, battery sucks, warranty is the worst out of any manufacturer.
What to buy? Great question!
Been struggling with the same problem. There is just no choice on the market without compromise. Huawei had it all with the large battery, best of the best inside, but they decided to flip off customers and disallow the bootloader unlock.
Rip. I would probably buy a OnePlus 5T, Poco F1 (has no NFC and some screens have touch issues).
What do you guys think? Worth an upgrade or stick to the Mate 20 Pro?
http://www.slashleaks.com/l/huawei-mate-30-pro-oficial-promotional-picture
I'm not upgrading that frequently anymore I don't think. This phone is already super smooth and does everything I need. Plus it'll be getting q soon.
mate20 pro, first and last huawei for me
I'll keep the 20 for at least one and a half year. Don't see much of a reason to upgrade yearly nowadays.
In my opinion I think Huawei make a good product and compete well with the best out there including Samsung and Apple. Unfortunately until we know for certain their US related issues and Android relationship in the long run, I don't think it's worth investing your top dollar on their flagship. For me this may be my first and last flagship from Huawei. I would definitely jump back again if everything has been clear and certain.
rooted mate 20 pro here, don't think there will be bootloader unlock codes for the mate 30 pro, i'll stick to the mate 20 pro and then i'll maybe get the note 11
If it's as bad ass as the Mate 20 Pro was at launch, and the price is right, then yes. Otherwise, I'll just hang on to my Mate 20 Pro a bit longer.
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mate20 pro, first and last huawei for me
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Why?, you didnt liked?
Im buying if it comes with google ecosystem , otherwise is useless to me !
pvillasuso said:
Im buying if it comes with google ecosystem , otherwise is useless to me !
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But its works with Google eco system
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Installing on the Huawei device mate https://opengapps.org/
And you good to go
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Why?, you didnt liked?
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well, the only thing I love are the quick charge and camera, lack of development is the main reason, I love lineage os to much.... I realiste that when I was stuck on emui hahahaha
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AOSP and no Google would be a dream for many here (GApps can always be installed if needed), and the removal of a lot of the EMUI & Google cruft would be awesome.
No point buying a phone of this value if it doesn't come with the essential Google apps.
Pixel 4 XL or Xperia 2 here I come
I am happy with the Mate 20 pro, I would jump ship if real life reviews (not the reviews given by you tubers which are handed the devices by Huawei for the purpose of "coloured" reviews) confirm a major upgrade on the camera's over the Mate 20 pro. I came from the Mate 10 and the camera on the Mate 10 gives me sometimes pictures like a oil painting, not happy with its camera so the upgrade to the Mate 20 pro was huge.
Going back on topic, as much as I dislike Apple, Samsung and google and their policies - being realistic they are all out there to sell their product and Huawei is not different and going in the same direction like Apple and co I welcome the opportunity of showing google they are not the only ones out there (except for Apple) offering an operating system for mobile devices. I would love to see an alternative. I believe I have to see in how far I can live without google services and how expensive the phone is. I believe it would be a matter of time before developers have alternatives for the major applications. I will follow closely the development on this subject, by the time the Mate 30 pro has reached an affordable price I am willing to spend we will know where we stand concerning google and its possibilities. So time will tell.
mudnightoil said:
AOSP and no Google would be a dream for many here (GApps can always be installed if needed), and the removal of a lot of the EMUI & Google cruft would be awesome.
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Except they are not allowed to use AOSP either. Also with more and more being put into play services which can be blocked device wide by a server switch. I wouldnt count on installing google apps. One fast device check and boom the device is blocked from the play store.
solitarios.lupus said:
Except they are not allowed to use AOSP either. Also with more and more being put into play services which can be blocked device wide by a server switch. I wouldnt count on installing google apps. One fast device check and boom the device is blocked from the play store.
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Complete nonsense.
mudnightoil said:
Complete nonsense.
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You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Heck I'm not even sure you belong here. But then most really don't.
I love the mate 20 pro . Reliability ,quality and all other factors needed. I use the mate 20 prop with android auto in my car every day. If I am not able to use Google photos, google maps, Android auto and Spotify I shall not buy the Mate 30 . It seems to be the best but cannot use it
demon2112 said:
mate20 pro, first and last huawei for me
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Same with me. I'm done with Huawei