RN4 model, how to be sure - Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Questions & Answers

Hi guys,
I just gor my RN4 which was advertise as 4/64 Global with snap 625 cpu.
The fact is that Antutu says it's a mediateck cpu while Droid Hrrware info and CPU-Z say that it's a snap625 !
Also according to kimovil (where you may go by your own as I can't insert links), Global version are supposed to be equipped with a sony imx258 sensor while non global version with a samsung S5K3L8.
Mine came with a samsung sensor, but I've seen it happend a lot to RN4X, but did not hear that about RN4 global.
Do you have any recomendation to have a solid answer what my cpu is, and if I do have the 4G band of a global version.
Lastly any reliable plans to get a imx258 sensor from somewhere ?
Thank's in advance
J.

It literally says on the box if you have Mediatek or Snapdragon chip. What does it say on the box on the back, next to " Product Name / Product Model: Mobile Phone / XXXXXXXX", reply with the number.
Also according to kimovil (where you may go by your own as I can't insert links), Global version are supposed to be equipped with a sony imx258 sensor while non global version with a samsung S5K3L8.
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Not true, it's 100% random between 3 camera sensors.

It's indeed all writtent on the box, global with snap 625 !
haha this is the lamest question ever !
I wonder why this dumb-ass of antutu said otherwise !
And for the sensor, I'm a bit frustrated not to get the sony, but I may feel happy not to get the omnivision, so glass half full

jbonlinea said:
Hi guys,
I just gor my RN4 which was advertise as 4/64 Global with snap 625 cpu.
The fact is that Antutu says it's a mediateck cpu while Droid Hrrware info and CPU-Z say that it's a snap625 !
Also according to kimovil (where you may go by your own as I can't insert links), Global version are supposed to be equipped with a sony imx258 sensor while non global version with a samsung S5K3L8.
Mine came with a samsung sensor, but I've seen it happend a lot to RN4X, but did not hear that about RN4 global.
Do you have any recomendation to have a solid answer what my cpu is, and if I do have the 4G band of a global version.
Lastly any reliable plans to get a imx258 sensor from somewhere ?
Thank's in advance
J.
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Most of the time benchmark and device info apps don't read info from the device, but read them from a server which has a library of device infos. So it could have been possible that antutu judged your device incorrectly. The most basic difference by which you can get your cpu type is by checking the number of cores. Mediatek Variant has 10 cores. While the Snapdragon one has 8.

yop that's also what I assumed, but that's lame...
Anyhow I could also very fy that I have a snapdragon cpu in the settings > about this phone > Cpu > octocore 2.0GHz.
waiting for 72 and I'll unlock it.
Thank's again guys

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TECA Mobility

Hello there is a new kind of smartphone brand TECA Mobility​
we need for that phone is a ROM or firmware. if someone has or know something please answer
Thanks for the helpers :good:
Yes, they are all over ebay, but I cannot find information about the company, or products, anywhere.
mac01843 said:
Yes, they are all over ebay, but I cannot find information about the company, or products, anywhere.
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It is fake. Have TECA LTE706B.
Antutu really shows 8 cores, but if the CPU is loaded to 100%, only 4 cores running, the others are stopped. Ram size is 3 gigabytes not 4GB. Benchmark results are exactly half that of the true 8 core!
Photos have a size corresponding 13Mpix, however it is only recalculated from 2Mpix and maybe not even that. The quality is terrible, and if I set the camera on 2Mpix and then 13Mpix, the quality is exactly the same. The tablet has the same author of kernel version and the build number is identical to the ROM for Dikon706... Exactly the same!
ShOgIBaRiBoA said:
Hello there is a new kind of smartphone brand TECA Mobility​
we need for that phone is a ROM or firmware. if someone has or know something please answer
Thanks for the helpers :good:
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I have a TECA 706B 7 inch Tablet, but I don't know how to give you ROM or firmware.
Can you help on that?
Sorry off topic.
Hello. Do not swear, that question is not on. I would preobresti tablet, that are interested in this -. TECA 811S 4G 3.6GHz octa core 64GB 10.1 "Full-HD ANDROID 6.0 Not where I will not find reviews on the tablets of this firm if anyone that knows prompt.
Confirm Stingerray: It is fake. I can add something.
Really it has 4 cores of MTK6735 processor, 1GB RAM and 12 GB ROM. No ways to use more than 1GB RAM, on 800M used memory device has stopped working.
An attempts to fill more than 12GB - files have disappeared. To fill 11GB - OK.
Real size of the screen - 6.7". Battery experimental test - 3000 mAh. Device name is PS-LTE706, easy to find on Aliexpress. Price, naturally, much less.

[Snapdragon] Quick Charge 2.0 hardware is built-in but not enabled

LINK : qualcomm.com/documents/quick-charge-device-list
According to this PDF from Qualcomm that lists QC3 and QC2 devices, the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 "contains the hardware necessary to achieve Quick Charge 2.0" (page 4, bottom right).
Apparently Xiaomi has not enabled the feature. But it can probably be enabled by modifying the kernel.
Can the developers confirm that this can be done?
mottokeki said:
LINK : qualcomm.com/documents/quick-charge-device-list
According to this PDF from Qualcomm that lists QC3 and QC2 devices, the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 "contains the hardware necessary to achieve Quick Charge 2.0" (page 4, bottom right).
Apparently Xiaomi has not enabled the feature. But it can probably be enabled by modifying the kernel.
Can the developers confirm that this can be done?
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Actually RN3P Kenzo suport even QC3.0,but this feature is not enabled by default by manufacturer.Take a look here: qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/650
Here are detailed processor specs;this is a very powerfull and versatile procesoor&chipset.650Snapdrgon can support even NFC but this device does not have such feature enabled.
Snapdragon 650 Processor Specs
Compare all processors
CPU
Up to 1.8 GHz hexa-core
(2x ARM® Cortex™ A72, 4x ARM Cortex A53)
GPU
Qualcomm® Adreno™ 510 GPU
DSP
Qualcomm® Hexagon™ DSP
Camera
Up to 21 MP camera
Dual Image Sensor Processor (ISP)
Zero Shutter Lag
Video
Up to 4K Ultra HD capture and playback
[email protected] capture
H.264 (AVC)
H.265 (HEVC)
Display
Up to Quad HD (2560x1600) on device
1080p external display support
Audio
Qualcomm® Immersive Audio
Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ Voice Activation
LTE Connectivity
X8 LTE
LTE Category 7
Up to 300 Mbps DL
Up to 100 Mbps UL
Downlink Features:
2x20 MHz carrier aggregation
64-QAM
Uplink Features:
2x20 MHz carrier aggregation
16-QAM
Global Mode
LTE FDD and TDD
WCDMA (DB-DC-HSDPA, DC-HSUPA)
TD-SCDMA
EV-DO and CDMA 1x
GSM/EDGE
Additional features include:
LTE Broadcast
LTE Dual SIM
HD Voice over 3G and VoLTE
Wi-Fi calling with LTE call continuity
Wi-Fi
Qualcomm® VIVE™ 1-stream 802.11n/ac with MU-MIMO
Location
Qualcomm® IZat™ Gen8C
Charging
Qualcomm® Quick Charge™ 2.0
Qualcomm® Quick Charge™ 3.0
Security
Qualcomm Haven™ security suite:
Snapdragon StudioAccess™ Content Protection
Qualcomm® SafeSwitch™ Technology
Qualcomm® SecureMSM™ hardware and software foundation
Memory
LPDDR3 933MHz dual-channel
Process Technology
28nm HPm
RF
Qualcomm® RF360™ front end solution
USB
USB 2.0
Bluetooth
Bluetooth Smart 4.1
NFC
Supported
Part Number
8956
@Luiggi79 Agreed. But the RN3 does not have the required antennae for NFC, even though the SD650 supports it.
However, it does have compatibility for QuickCharge 2.0 and I believe it could be enable in the kernel. (I don't know about QC3.0 since the document does not say so).
This is similar to the LG G2 which had official support for QC1.0, but could successfully achieve QC2.0 using custom kernel.
what are the chances of getting this working?
And why did xiaomi not include something which the chipset supports?
Both those features would have made this a killer handset, are they that much more expensive to implement?
gotbass said:
what are the chances of getting this working?
And why did xiaomi not include something which the chipset supports?
Both those features would have made this a killer handset, are they that much more expensive to implement?
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If it has the hardware capability then it should definitely work. But the battery should be able to handle it too.
Xiaomi probably didn't enable it because they did not have licencing for this handset. It would add to the cost I guess.
Sent from my Redmi Note 3 using XDA-Developers mobile app
hulgo said:
If it has the hardware capability then it should definitely work. But the battery should be able to handle it too.
Xiaomi probably didn't enable it because they did not have licencing for this handset. It would add to the cost I guess.
Sent from my Redmi Note 3 using XDA-Developers mobile app
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do you think through development we could unlock these features?
battery might not be to handle it? it gets pretty hot already when charging
meangreenie said:
battery might not be to handle it? it gets pretty hot already when charging
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What charger are you using ? I haven't used official charger I am using my Samsung charger which is just a standard 2.0A charger from my Note 3 or something. Phone doesn't warm up even a little bit. In fact I haven't felt this phone warm up ever, even after 30 mins of GPS use or charging. Unusual !
Some developers have already been testing quick charge and apparently it is working. Of course, no one knows what effects it could have mid and long term. I believe it was in on of the cyanogenmod rom threads.
>1080p external display support
Since the RN3 does not support an external display officially but the 650 does, I was wondering if this could be enabled by software like quick charge or does it need some special hardware connection like nfc? Anyone knows? Would love to be able to connect the RN3 to an external display.
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What charger are you using ? I haven't used official charger I am using my Samsung charger which is just a standard 2.0A charger from my Note 3 or something. Phone doesn't warm up even a little bit. In fact I haven't felt this phone warm up ever, even after 30 mins of GPS use or charging. Unusual !
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Can confirm that it does not get hot at all while charging, using the original 2A charger that came with the device.
I use a simple trick to counter the charging heat, remove back cover if u use any, put ur mobile on slightly damp cloth while charging. That's it.
Fast charging works on my device 1 hr to full charge
hmmm
Then ,sir, tell us how u do that ??
AFAIK, to have full support for Quick Charge 2.0/3.0 on any Snapdragon device, in this case for Redmi Note 3
- The Hardware (SoC) should be compatible for QC. (Present)
- The OEM should pay the licensing fee for QC to Qualcomm. Around 5$ per device for QC 2.0 (Absent)
- The Kernel should have QC enabled. (Absent)
- The Power Management Integrated Circuit (PMIC) should be capable of handling QC. (Not sure)
- The Battery should be capable of rapid charging via QC. (Not Sure)
sushil888 said:
Then ,sir, tell us how u do that ??
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I made my own custom kernel.. Think that's the reason why xiaomi allows unlocking the device.. So the we can enable this feature and they can save a few bux .. Also fixed the network issue
filthyrich77 said:
I made my own custom kernel.. Think that's the reason why xiaomi allows unlocking the device.. So the we can enable this feature and they can save a few bux .. Also fixed the network issue
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Could you share with us that? Is there a link to the cyanogenmod discussing qc2/3 with this phone?
filthyrich77 said:
I made my own custom kernel.. Think that's the reason why xiaomi allows unlocking the device.. So the we can enable this feature and they can save a few bux .. Also fixed the network issue
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Do you know if external display support, be it MHL or SlimPort, could be enabled the same way or needs extra hardware so it is not possible?
its fake claim of custom kernel creator here...............1 hr for 4050 mah is impossible, as per the Qualcomm list of supported device RN3 supports QC 2.0, May be users and forums plague with heating issue on its launch,so they blocked at kernel level and also to save costs on Qc2.0 Supported charger, please stop bluffing as jackXXx,. even if he is skilled to code, 1hr is impossible. mi5 takes 1 hour + with 3000mah battery. qc1.0 qc2.0 qc3.0 times will be 2h 50mts, 2 hrs 10mts, 1hr 35mts. thnks to thread creator for finding it listed in qualcomm page.
Surprised to read this, can u share that kernel?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/development/sony-secret-revealed-qc-2-0-t3163490
I saw that a while ago so thought it might be possible.
Athiril said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/development/sony-secret-revealed-qc-2-0-t3163490
I saw that a while ago so thought it might be possible.
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Interesting info

two RN3 pro but with different hardwares!

Hi! Guys
I have some weird problem. I have two of this device bought it from different shops. both RN3 pro 32 gig.
but when I check the hardware in antutu for one of these says:
CPU model: 6 Core ARMv8 Processor (VFPv4 NEON)
and for the other one says:
CPU model: Qualcomm Snapdragon 650 MSM8956
both have adreno 510 GPU
results of the first one was 66000 but the second one 76000!
also the Light sensor of the first one is from Liteon and the second one from Sensortek!
besides I see the color accuracy of the their screen is not the same both in same sattings
Please check your device if it's possible and help me out to understand why they have these differences! is it normal?
Not sure but it looks like you might have an mtk version and a snapdragon version
don't worry, it's the same processor.
first pic is the result of antutu not being able to verify exact cpu model cuz your device isnt online. however, what it reports corresponds to 650 anyways. try and go online, it'll show the real name. as far as benches go. heat, rom, usage could affect scores greatly. i wouldnt worry about it.
oh and as far as sensor goes, yeah, xiaomi made several rn3 "versions" with different fp/light/camera sensors. who knows what else was changed tbh. prolly cutting costs after pushing "higher quality" devices in the first batch and gaining some popularity for the device
Completely normal, nothing to worry about.
1. Dont rely on Antutu scores, they are inconsistent everytime. Both of your devices are original running on Snapdragon 650.
2. Xiaomi uses internal hardware from different manufacturers ranging from sensors, camera modules, RAM, display panels etc.
3. Same as above, both devices have display panels from varying OEMs calibrated differently.
thanQ all. Now I'm relieved
I have another issue that I don't understand! in recent apps, one of the phones shows the recent apps with the apps last image, but one of them shows the apps with just its icons! although both are running with 7.3.7 global stable! is it a hidden setting or something about it?!
double finger zoom in/out if i remember correctly
Most manufacturers use parts from different suppliers, like xiaomi. None of it is better or worse than each other. The display seems different because SHARP panel is "cooler" and BOE panel is "warmer". That's just how the manufacturers of the displays calibrated them.

Mediatek CyanogenMod development

I don't know whether I should wait for the rn4 or go for the rn3. I'd really love the helio x20, but I don't think that would come to India cause of the lawsuit. Hypothetically, if it is launched, how would the software development be? Would it get many Roms? Cm especially? My second question is, if the rn4 comes with sd 652, it'll be like trading 3 mp of the rear camera in the rn3, for 2 cores in the rn4! Although, I'm not really into photography, that 16 mp cam does sound nice so do the 2 extra cores really make a difference, especially in gaming?
I've got the same question about the rom development for mediatek. I've used cm nearly for 2 years and I'll be switching to miui. It doesn't matter if there won't be cm for the rn4 mtk. Miui is good and I'm willing to do this change.
Being a photography amateur, i can tell you that mp doesn't do a difference. It's the sensor that counts. If the rn4 has a better image quality, go for it. Gaming depends on the gpu mostly and the adreno is more powerful than the mali. Will gaming be better with the 2 cores? I can't tell you.
Btw if that helps you, I'm buying the rn4 mtk insead of the rn3p.
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I don't know whether I should wait for the rn4 or go for the rn3. I'd really love the helio x20, but I don't think that would come to India cause of the lawsuit. Hypothetically, if it is launched, how would the software development be? Would it get many Roms? Cm especially? My second question is, if the rn4 comes with sd 652, it'll be like trading 3 mp of the rear camera in the rn3, for 2 cores in the rn4! Although, I'm not really into photography, that 16 mp cam does sound nice so do the 2 extra cores really make a difference, especially in gaming?
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Check the Redmi Note 3 (MediaTek) development thread if you want to get an idea of the scope for development (in short, some but not much). There are reports that there won't be a Snapdragon version of the Redmi Note 4 and you might have to unofficially import it. The difference in camera performance is negligible. Real world performance is identical, but GeekBench states the Redmi Note 4 has about 20% better single core performance, 50% better multicore performance and 25% better graphics performance on average. Also, the Redmi Note 4 has 10 cores which is 4 more than the SD650 and it is based on the 14nm architecture vs the 28nm of the SD650 but batterylife remains the same between the two.
Basically, the Redmi Note 4 is a slightly better phone but won't have anywhere near the amount of development the Note 3 has seen thus far. It not get CyanogenMod, but I think it will.
As a photographer I can confirm that higher megapixels doesn't necessarily mean better. Although people were saying that there's not much improvement in the rn4 cam over the rn3. I'd still take the 4 over the 3 anytime tho because the design is much nicer
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I've got the same question about the rom development for mediatek. I've used cm nearly for 2 years and I'll be switching to miui. It doesn't matter if there won't be cm for the rn4 mtk. Miui is good and I'm willing to do this change.
Being a photography amateur, i can tell you that mp doesn't do a difference. It's the sensor that counts. If the rn4 has a better image quality, go for it. Gaming depends on the gpu mostly and the adreno is more powerful than the mali. Will gaming be better with the 2 cores? I can't tell you.
Btw if that helps you, I'm buying the rn4 mtk insead of the rn3p.
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So you're buying the rn4? Despite lesser development for mtk? Although MIUI is pretty great, many still do prefer cm and it being an mtk device, it reduces options for os change which I don't REALLY like... But according to notebookcheck.com the mtk GPU is better than the adrenochrome 510!! Which would've sold it for me, but mtk devices can't come to India because of a lawsuit with Ericsson and they're not planning on making a Qualcomm variant :'( also, when you get the phone, do tell me about it's camera performance!!
xdadevet said:
Check the Redmi Note 3 (MediaTek) development thread if you want to get an idea of the scope for development (in short, some but not much). There are reports that there won't be a Snapdragon version of the Redmi Note 4 and you might have to unofficially import it. The difference in camera performance is negligible. Real world performance is identical, but GeekBench states the Redmi Note 4 has about 20% better single core performance, 50% better multicore performance and 25% better graphics performance on average. Also, the Redmi Note 4 has 10 cores which is 4 more than the SD650 and it is based on the 14nm architecture vs the 28nm of the SD650 but batterylife remains the same between the two.
Basically, the Redmi Note 4 is a slightly better phone but won't have anywhere near the amount of development the Note 3 has seen thus far. It not get CyanogenMod, but I think it will.
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So the rn3 is still the better alternative, isn't it? Btw, the problem with unofficially importing it is that first off, it'll be in Chinese, so i have to fiddle around for the English version or flash English MIUI and then I don't know if I'll get warranty coverage, which I don't think I will... Lastly working with mtk devices scare me a bit, cause ive seen software like mtk flash tools, which I dont really understand! My mother has a Panasonic eluga turbo which is mtk and there isn't a single rom for that!!! (Literally)
Newbdroidd said:
As a photographer I can confirm that higher megapixels doesn't necessarily mean better. Although people were saying that there's not much improvement in the rn4 cam over the rn3. I'd still take the 4 over the 3 anytime tho because the design is much nicer
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You are NOT wrong!! The rn4 does look better! It's more squarish and well defined! The rn3 is a little curvy for my taste...
Ankit Antony said:
So the rn3 is still the better alternative, isn't it? Btw, the problem with unofficially importing it is that first off, it'll be in Chinese, so i have to fiddle around for the English version or flash English MIUI and then I don't know if I'll get warranty coverage, which I don't think I will... Lastly working with mtk devices scare me a bit, cause ive seen software like mtk flash tools, which I dont really understand! My mother has a Panasonic eluga turbo which is mtk and there isn't a single rom for that!!! (Literally)
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I'm on the fence on this one. I have a gut feeling that overall the Redmi Note 3 Pro might have better day-to-day performance because it's software is better optimised (X20 devices showed significant GPU lag in the beginning due to bad drivers, yet the Note 3 has open kernel sources and CAF builds). My heart says "Note 4" ("better" SOC, looks) yet my brain says "Note 3" (Awesome ROM support, cheaper). I hate the rounded plastic looking design of the Note 3 yet I think the Note 4 looks pretty good with its all metallic build and reflective chamfers (it just lacks a USB type C port for symmetry and reliability). On my Mi4c I stayed mostly on MIUI despite loving CM13 because of the better camera software (I am super-critical of camera performance, but I don't have high hopes for either of these in anything else but perfect conditions) so I think given the choice I would anyway have a MIUI running Note 3.
Usually, the reseller that you buy it from has a 1-2 year warranty, look out for those if it matters to you. I personally always do my own repairs, but we have a local reseller that repairs Xiaomi phones should I ever get stuck (I extrapolated it's the same where you come from). Generally speaking, Xiaomi is very tolerant when it comes to modifying devices, but you might have to read up more on that regarding your specific country.
I have flashed MIUI on a MediaTek Redmi Note 2 without any issue or difference from the Snapdragon versions. The Note 4 already has an English custom ROM available it's great, I've used it on 3 different Xiaomis before (Mi 4c, Redmi Note 2 and Mi 4). Here is the link: https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/6-9-15-19.34208/ . I haven't used flash tools on MediaTek devices but had to on several Snapdragon and Exynos devices. They're stupendously easy to use, you don't have to worry if it comes to that.

Xiaomi Note 3 Pro (Snapdragon) vs Note 4 (Snapdragon) Note 4x

Hello everyone,
I know this is the Q&A for N3P but I still wanna ask because I cant find that much comparasion between these three on english/german.
So, my questions are:
1. Speed? Not gaming, just Facebook, WhatsApp, YouTube and such apps.
2. Camera? Normal and low light. I know the N3P has 16 megapixel but I am asking anyways. I just heard that both cameras are ultra bad in low light.
3. Battery? Is there a noticable difference?
Thanks!
rn3 pro's battery is grt but camera quality in both daylight and lowlight is pretty bad.
Go for one plus x if u can afford.
Or any Huawei phone's for better performance in every aspects.
Thanks for your answer. But, the battery life isnt as good as it is on Note3 and Note4 afaik.
Or, is it really true that you get about 8hours screen on? I want to switch to Xiaomi just because of that.
I dont make THAT much photos with my phone. I have lg g2 at the moment and I dont think that Note3/4 Camera is that much worse than lg g2.
chorba69 said:
Thanks for your answer. But, the battery life isnt as good as it is on Note3 and Note4 afaik.
Or, is it really true that you get about 8hours screen on? I want to switch to Xiaomi just because of that.
I dont make THAT much photos with my phone. I have lg g2 at the moment and I dont think that Note3/4 Camera is that much worse than lg g2.
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If you're a gamer then Note 3
Actually Note 4 SD performance isn't that much poor compared to Note 3. You won't even notice a difference with normal usage. You can also expect better battery, over 10 hrs. SOT on Note 4 compared to 7 to 9 hrs. of Note 3(my own usage, others are claiming to get over 12 hrs. some even 14 though I don't know how they're doing it). I can end the day without looking for a charger with 7 to 9 hrs. of SOT so for me above that isn't really necessary. Note 4 also has better thermal performance(doesn't heat up that much, Note 3 may reach up to 45 degrees C when charging. I got it to 42 when playing although it's summer right now in my country).
If you're into Custom ROMs, etc. though then definitely Note 3. Actually only bought this over 4x because of the modding community plus the 700 mhz lte band on the Kate model.
Thanks for your answer. But that means that both phones are equally fast? I don't care that much about custom roms. I have since 5 years just aosp/cm Roms and I wanna test something different.
for me is just the performance important. Is there a difference that should be mentioned? not gaming, just overall speed.
1)Redmi note 3 pro special edition support 800 mhz 4G band which is usable on areas like villages away from big city's (there is a note 4 global edition with Snapdragon 625 which support 800 mhz band also)
2)note 3 pro vs 4 battery life its kinda same to improve battery also you can use xposed + power nap+amblify+greenify (maybe note 4 will get 30 min more battery cuz of a53 cores )
3)always aim to buy Snapdragon edition much better from mediatek Snapdragon gives sources and blabla
4)maybe Redmi note 3 got a little bit better performance on games cuz of x2 cores a73
5) colour or note 4 its a little better and design a little more wonderful for me on other hand with note 3 you can use radon kernel (for me its the best) and you can fix the colours same as note 4
6) cameras on daylight fotos are very good i could say best for the price of course because we talk for phones price range max 170$ huawei prices are 300+ so ofc they got better cameras
7)its the best option for value for money phones and about battery I get about 7 to 8 hours on my note 3 miui 8 7.4.27 with radon kernel using only cellular data because I'm on army and I use Facebook, messenger,viber, Instagram,whats app,some other apps (i got installed around to 90 apps) 0 lags the only you need its a good case and tempered glass cuz the durability on phones sucks but hey its 170$ max if you interested to go on higher price like 250$ I would told you to buy lettv 3 pro 821 Snapdragon 800 mhz and tons of much better performance ram etc
I hope I helped you a lot
N3P slight better performance over N4. Because SD650: 2x powerful A72 cores. (and yea sure 4x A53) Doesn't really matters in Day-to-day performance.
N4 better battery life over N3P. (Because 625 8x A53 built on 14 nm over 28 nm process in SD650)
xmixmaster said:
1)Redmi note 3 pro special edition support 800 mhz 4G band which is usable on areas like villages away from big city's (there is a note 4 global edition with Snapdragon 625 which support 800 mhz band also)
2)note 3 pro vs 4 battery life its kinda same to improve battery also you can use xposed + power nap+amblify+greenify (maybe note 4 will get 30 min more battery cuz of a53 cores )
3)always aim to buy Snapdragon edition much better from mediatek Snapdragon gives sources and blabla
4)maybe Redmi note 3 got a little bit better performance on games cuz of x2 cores a73
5) colour or note 4 its a little better and design a little more wonderful for me on other hand with note 3 you can use radon kernel (for me its the best) and you can fix the colours same as note 4
6) cameras on daylight fotos are very good i could say best for the price of course because we talk for phones price range max 170$ huawei prices are 300+ so ofc they got better cameras
7)its the best option for value for money phones and about battery I get about 7 to 8 hours on my note 3 miui 8 7.4.27 with radon kernel using only cellular data because I'm on army and I use Facebook, messenger,viber, Instagram,whats app,some other apps (i got installed around to 90 apps) 0 lags the only you need its a good case and tempered glass cuz the durability on phones sucks but hey its 170$ max if you interested to go on higher price like 250$ I would told you to buy lettv 3 pro 821 Snapdragon 800 mhz and tons of much better performance ram etc
I hope I helped you a lot
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Big thanks for so many informations!
And, if you were me, would you choose note 4/note 4x or note 3 pro?
As I have said, I dont play games on my phone. I just want a phone that can open and load apps like Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, WhatsApp quickly and have a big screen-on time.
Is there a big difference in speed between those two? As I have said, not gaming speed but everything else.
Thanks
@chorba69 I would go for note 4 cuz of that awesome corners and edges its amazing but the version Snapdragon 625 and with 800 mhz band supported plus I'm not a power user to play games all the time its waste of time for me xd but both devices are perfect ahh I forget maybe note 4 got a little bit better cameras quality cuz of Snapdragon 625 cuz it support 24 mp instead of Snapdragon 650 on 21 mp its not that much comparable since both record 4k video on 30 fps and there is not a speed difference between those devices dont be attracted by antutu scores etc I use radon kernel with battery option and I never get a single lag also Snapdragon 625 its 14nm and 650 its 28nm so it will be a little bit cooler than note 3
chorba69 said:
Big thanks for so many informations!
And, if you were me, would you choose note 4/note 4x or note 3 pro?
As I have said, I dont play games on my phone. I just want a phone that can open and load apps like Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, WhatsApp quickly and have a big screen-on time.
Is there a big difference in speed between those two? As I have said, not gaming speed but everything else.
Thanks
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Go for the Note 4 SD/Note 4X.
Note 3 vs Note 4 opening app speed difference is negligible, less than a second faster in favor of Note 3. While battery life and heat management improvement is noticeable on the Note 4, about 20% increase in battery life. Color reproduction of the screen too is better in the Note 4.
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Go for the Note 4 SD/Note 4X.
Note 3 vs Note 4 opening app speed difference is negligible, less than a second faster in favor of Note 3. While battery life and heat management improvement is noticeable on the Note 4, about 20% increase in battery life. Color reproduction of the screen too is better in the Note 4.
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Thanks! Just, there is no difference in speed and battery between Note 4 SD and Note 4x or?
If there is, which one has better battery/is faster?
And one thing more: Does 4x come with LTE Band 20 or there is special version with lte 20 ? I live in Germany and that thing is important for lte frequency here.
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Thanks! Just, there is no difference in speed and battery between Note 4 SD and Note 4x or?
If there is, which one has better battery/is faster?
And one thing more: Does 4x come with LTE Band 20 or there is special version with lte 20 ? I live in Germany and that thing is important for lte frequency here.
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Note 4 SD and Note 4X(3/32) are the same aside from LTE bands. Seeing that you're not in India, then definitely go with 4X but it doesn't have band 20 unfortunately. If you really need Band 20 then go for Note 3 Special/International Edition(Kate).
Here: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=7863&idPhone2=8580
Based on your usage I'd advice you go for Note 4X but if band 20 is really important then pick Redmi Note 3 Pro Special Edition. As I said earlier, I also chose Kate over 4X because of band 28.
Note 4x has the same camera sensor as LG G6. Dk how xiaomi manages to mess up with photos quality.
There's no big improvement in camera regarding those two. Note 4x has a better battery backup due to 14nm chipset. Note 3 has better community support. Note 3 is better in gaming. Note 4 looks better ( especially on that full black model ).
If i were to choose i'd go with the RN3P, as it has, if not the same, but close to a nexus phone community support, gonna be a long living device.
I googled now again and I found there is some Note 4 with the same specs as Note 4x and it has lte band 20.
should I get it over Note 3 pro?
Or it is not possible that there is a Note 4 with everything same as Note 4 just with Band 20?
http://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_620903.html
Hi people, above the link. I ordered this one. It should be the Note 4 or the Note 4x (I dont understand it yet) with LTE Band 20 or?
I just dont understand where is the difference between International version and Global version.
I guess theres nothing "big" between those two.
I have RN3Pro and was on latest Developer version (stock kernel), rooted and Xposed install, but no battery improvement apps/modules installed, just other type of tweaks. I just bought it and didn't tested on Stable version yet without root and Xposed. Maybe its better, don't know.
On first SS you can see how much Screen was ON per session. I plugged it on PC for some work, but it was not much... that's on second SS.
Thanks for Infos @apriores
everything above 5 hours screen on is new for me. I have lg g2 and I chose the xiaomi redmi because of the battery life.
just, I heard that even more than 8-9 hours of screen on are possible. have you ever made it above 8hours sot?
I had max sot of 10h on my rn3 pro
I suggest you to get rn3 pro because of better performance and development.
1) I think 4X has better design, I have used both and 4X gives better hold experience. Also it looks more expensive than 3P
2) If you don't aim to play game too much, buy 4X, 625 give better speed, just weaker GPU, moreover it is based on 14nm so better power management.
3) Camera, I will choose 3P, Snapdragon 650 support Zero Shutter Lag and some stuff better than 625, how ever in real condition, I still have some feeling that 3P take better pictures than 4X.
4) Audio, choose 3P, Snapdragon 650 has some better specs for Audio than 625, the default may very bad, but believe me, install DivineBeats and it just no difference like V20 or some stuff that has DACs.
5) Screen, 4X has better screen, 3P a little yellow in my opinion.
6) Connectivity: 4X, newer X9 LTE chip gives better connection than X8.
That's all, consider on your own.
Thanks. I ordered already a Note 4x with LTE Band 20 for Germany. I hope made a good decision. Thanks y'all in this thread.
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