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Hey all, NTT DOCOMO just pushed out OTA R1EA029 to my Xperia...still Android 1.6 however. I was not able to go through and notice any differences, however it does appear to break root. Since it broke root and I don't have a second phone to take pictures I have no photographic proof as of now. If desired, I will attempt to dump and upload for the community.
Thanks.
You can try to root again using the root exploit APK, hopefully its still work with the new firmware.
The best thing to do with new firmware i think is download the Benchmark app, then we compare to latest firmware benchmark point. If its significantly higher, then people might get moved to use it then you dump the ROM without wasting effort.
But if its roughly the same, i think most of us will wait. its 20 days more for Android 2.1 Update from SE
You mean R2EA029 or R1EA029? if it is R1, it is obviously an old version.
It is R1...so old news then
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Actually not quite that much 'old news' as R1...029 seems to be the highest any R1 has ever gone. So, wouldn't count it out that easily.
guy2545, may I ask whether SP-Mode applications are coming with that update or anything else?
I have mine on generic R2...26 but I'd be interested in whether or not the SP mode is coming with this update (as it fits with the SP-Mode-comes-in-September announcement)
I don't think they changed much. I think the only thing they really did was add support for SP mode, other than that I haven't noticed any real differences.
What is SP mode?
Thanks, zporkz. I hope SP mode will run on non-Docomo firmware, too... woud hate to have to go back and flash the ol' docomo one.
@JamesBarnes:
It's something Japan-specific... it's basically http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-mode for smartphones.
Yeah I'm going to have to go with zporkz on this. I have only noticed a few more icons on my launcher, but haven't messed with them much.
ttxdragon said:
Thanks, zporkz. I hope SP mode will run on non-Docomo firmware, too... woud hate to have to go back and flash the ol' docomo one.
@JamesBarnes:
It's something Japan-specific... it's basically http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-mode for smartphones.
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Well its more of having an app to do @docomo.ne.jp emails and being able to do deco mail etc... I'm currently using imode.net (same ¥300yen charge) with imoni app, so I don't see the point in changing, since imode.net also works with any browser. You have to change your 3G AP to the new one as well.
Nor is it going to give you an i-mode browser. Was just at an izakaya just now and their coupon offer doesn't work with smart phone, meh.... so a regular keitai is still handy for some services.
Firmware info is here:
http://www.nttdocomo.co.jp/support/utilization/software_update/version_up/so01b/android1_6/0830.html
1. SP Mode APN added.
2. POBox touch 3.0 IME added.
3. Back up and Restore application added.
4. Mediascape updated to allow deletion of cover art.
http://www.ptcrb.com/ctiastaff/complete/view_complete_request.cfm?modelid=16755
just a thought, maybe that's newer?
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just a thought, maybe that's newer?
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Hmmm I'm running build r2bao26 on my x10i, so should i upgrade? I'm rooted if that matters. Looking at that list seems like i'm out dated. I did get this phone from att so it came with their build but it seems to be working so i never did the next step to change to x10a. Should I convert to x10a? It is recommended for my phone model but i dont see a point. I still get 3g service on att and edge on tmobile
i heard it's an update to support foma mail or something.
For anyone curious how SP mode works, you just set your APN to the spmode settings. Then you download an app for sp mode. It looks like SP mode gives you push email.
Also, when I signed up, it was free for 6 months.
So, this particular xda-noob got a MediaPad 10 FHD on a trip to China. The nice version, with 2GB of RAM and 1.4GHz clock, not the tuned-down version soon to be released in Europe.
I have plenty of questions, like will I be able to put international firmware (i.e. including Play Store etc) on it, but first things first:
Should that device be discussed on this board? Or should I wait for a separate board for the 10 FHD?
just flash gapps and u will have market
Q not answered, all problems solved
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just flash gapps and u will have market
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I flashed more than that. I downloaded the "world wide" firmware from the Huawei website and installed it, according to the instructions. Now I have everything I wanted (calendar, contacts,…) and more (all the apps I've installed on the phone) Yay
No rooting, no tricky renaming of files. Thanks, Huawei, for not making an effort to make my life complicated! Now… what is the reason our Chinese friends don't simply download that firmware instead of the Cinese one? Maybe they can't get a Google account, so all this beautiful stuff is useless to them?
Anyway: I'm sorry to say that i don't have a lot of questions at this point. What's a noob to do if everything works out of the box.
BUT: when questions eventually do emerge, is this the board for them?
Cheers,
Martin
CMW recovery and custom ROMs
Does the CMW installation and CM10 guide as described in this forum which refers to the mediapad 7 works for the mediapad 10 as well or would it brick the device? Since both pads called Mediapad I would recommend to open a separate forum for Mediapad 10 and Mediapad 7. Furthermore the official Android release from Huawei does not have google apps installed. Could you please release a guide how to flash it onto it? Thanks guys
mabartibin said:
I flashed more than that. I downloaded the "world wide" firmware from the Huawei website and installed it, according to the instructions. Now I have everything I wanted (calendar, contacts,…) and more (all the apps I've installed on the phone) Yay
No rooting, no tricky renaming of files. Thanks, Huawei, for not making an effort to make my life complicated! Now… what is the reason our Chinese friends don't simply download that firmware instead of the Cinese one? Maybe they can't get a Google account, so all this beautiful stuff is useless to them?
Anyway: I'm sorry to say that i don't have a lot of questions at this point. What's a noob to do if everything works out of the box.
BUT: when questions eventually do emerge, is this the board for them?
Cheers,
Martin
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hi martin,
I've purchased 3 10 fhd recently. one for myself, one for a friend in berlin, and the last is for my wife. Since we have to use those google staffs I flashed the international firmwares for all the 3 mediapads. But as far as I know there are quite a lot customers in china would like to stick on the stock chinese firmware for several reasons.
1. the development of the chinese firmware is more active. you will get more updates in this firmware.
2. you can still root the chinese firmware and install google staffs onto it.
3. anyway, the experience of accessing gmail, gtalk, youtube as well as facebook and twitter are either difficult or simply just impossible. so for most people in china it's pointless to flash an international firmware. It's impossible to get non-free apps from google play in China mainland as well as in Taiwan because the payment in such areas is not supported.
And there is another firmware for Huawei devices, the Emotion UI, a.k.a. EMUI, which gets tons of fans in China. This firmware is said to be one with special tunes and optimizations for Huawei devices such as D1 xl smartphone, P1 xl smartphone and, of course, the 10 mediapad. Right now there are a lot of fans of this firmware calling for a ``natively-rooted'' version of it, in this way installing google's staff would become easier.
Anyway, I also find this 10 fhd is quite a good choice. It just cost 2700 chinese yuan (~400USD or ~300euro) for the WIFI/2GB RAM/16GB ROM version.
If you are really looking for some interesting staff on your new toy, please think about installing or compiling full-functional linux for it. Right now I've compiled a gentoo linux for it, with x-window. It works as well as on my laptop.
pigsboss said:
But as far as I know there are quite a lot customers in china would like to stick on the stock chinese firmware for several reasons.
1. the development of the chinese firmware is more active. you will get more updates in this firmware.
2. you can still root the chinese firmware and install google staffs onto it.
3. anyway, the experience of accessing gmail, gtalk, youtube as well as facebook and twitter are either difficult or simply just impossible. so for most people in china it's pointless to flash an international firmware. It's impossible to get non-free apps from google play in China mainland as well as in Taiwan because the payment in such areas is not supported.
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I agree, good reasons all of them!
If you are really looking for some interesting staff on your new toy, please think about installing or compiling full-functional linux for it. Right now I've compiled a gentoo linux for it, with x-window. It works as well as on my laptop.
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Man, I'm trying to reduce the number of devices I'm running linux on
Firmware S10-101u
Today I spotted a newer firmware on Huawei's website, and proceeded to install it. Only to find out afterwards that this was for the 3G version of the tablet.
So: for the wifi version, you want the one called S10-101w, for the 3G version, the one called S10-101u. Using the 3G firmware on a WiFi-only tablet gives an error message "Failed to update modem" that will sit on the screen and not go away.
Skype
I recently tried to use Skype on the MediaPad 10 FHD. Two problems:
1. Video didn't seem to work, neither sending, nor receiving.
2. The microphone volume seems to be so low that it's unusable.
(I've found posts about problems with Mic volume for other android devices. All fixes seem to involve rooting. Anybody tried to root a MediaPad yet?)
Google Maps and Google Earth navigation
Another thing that doesn't work as it should are the gestures for rotating in Google maps and both tilting and rotating in Google Earth.
I can tilt in Maps by sliding two fingers next to each other up and down. I can rotate by sliding two fingers above each other left and right. But the expected rotation gesture of doing circular movements with the fingers doesn't work.
In Earth, neither the tilting gesture nor any of those two rotating gestures work.
Some mobile phones seem to have this problem, possibly if they have bad multitouch support. I remember reading in some form (which I can't seem to find now ) that there are some kernel configuration variables that these gestures depend on.
Hi, there is a new Firmware (from 21.11.12) on the Huawei website.
My Mediapad should arrive soon from China ....
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Gubi99 said:
Hi, there is a new Firmware (from 21.11.12) on the Huawei website.
My Mediapad should arrive soon from China ....
Sent from my A500 using xda premium
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According to Huawei:
You will be attracted by the brilliant games.
It also has the simple quick applications.
With touch screen you can have ultimate experience.
I always enjoy my visits to Huawei's web site
But does anyone know whether it is possible to flash new firmware without completely resetting the tablet. Reconfiguring Wifi access, mail accounts, beginning World of Goo from level 1, etc. Had that twice last week.
Installing worldwide firmware
neilpride said:
Does the CMW installation and CM10 guide as described in this forum which refers to the mediapad 7 works for the mediapad 10 as well or would it brick the device? Since both pads called Mediapad I would recommend to open a separate forum for Mediapad 10 and Mediapad 7. Furthermore the official Android release from Huawei does not have google apps installed. Could you please release a guide how to flash it onto it? Thanks guys
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The easiest way is to install the "worldwide" version of the software, instead of the China-specific one, which is on the tablet if you buy it in China. That will not only give you the familiar set of Google apps, facebook, etc., it will also remove chat apps, browsers, games, etc. that are specifically chinese.
Go to Huawei's software download site find you device in the menus, and find the firmware for your device. S10-101w for the WiFi-only version, S10-101u for the one with mobile connectivity.
You will get a large zip file, which takes a long time to download. China is far away.
You unzip it and follow the instructions in the PDF. The English is a bit funny, but they're entirely understandable and accurate. No point in repeating them here really.
The only thing you might want to know before you start: you will have to copy the files for the update onto a micro SD card that you plug into your tablet. So you'll need a micro SD card. No micro SD card, no update. And (unless you do the download with the tablet) you need a way of writing to that card with your computer. So you might need a micro SD -> SD adapter.
Oh, one more thing: the process pretty much wipes the phone. All installed apps are gone and have to be reinstalled. Wifi access and mail accounts etc need to be set up again.
I don't have a 10 inch media pad but the 7 inch one had fast boot, which allowed flashing files directly from PC to tablet with nothing but a usb cable, no micro sd required.
Maybe that works here too?
Maybe it works. Starting the MediaPad with Vol+ button pressed gives me a "Enter Fastboot mode" message. The fastboot program on the computer didn't recognise the device however.
Firmware upgrade fixes Maps/Earth/Skype problems
mabartibin said:
I recently tried to use Skype on the MediaPad 10 FHD. Two problems:
1. Video didn't seem to work, neither sending, nor receiving.
2. The microphone volume seems to be so low that it's unusable.
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Another thing that doesn't work as it should are the gestures for rotating in Google maps and both tilting and rotating in Google Earth.
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Hurray! With the firmware from 21.11., both problems are solved.
More or less. Maps and Earth work as they should. In Skype, video with the front-facing camera works, but switching cameras makes problems. And the microphone is louder, but audio is really disappointing quality. As also witnessed by the audio recording app.
Anyway, in total the advantages outweigh the problem of having to play World of Goo from level 1 again.
where do I order from China? I want the one with 2GB ram? I looked at pandawill and they're selling the 1GB version. thanks
Hi, ordered my Pad 2GB/16GB/3G at Aliexpress dot com. Very quick delivery from China to Germany within 5 days.
But the Power adaptor is the China version....
My Pad is rooted already and I can use Ad blocker, remove some Software I dont like and so on.
But the Firmware needs some optimization. Not all works perfect ....
Sent from my MediaPad 10 FHD using xda premium
how to root?
Gubi99 said:
My Pad is rooted already
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How did you go about rooting? I saw a guide using some Chinese Windows .exe, but I have only Linux and Mac OS machines. (And Android and Symbian and iOS
Chinese power plugs
Gubi99 said:
But the Power adaptor is the China version....
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For what it's worth, I bought mine on a trip to the PRC, and it came witha NEMA 1 plug. I suppose you got the same. Two parallel flat blades. This is originally a North American standard, which might make it easier to find an adapter. It seems within China, a bunch of different standards are in use.
The Wikipedia article on power plugs and sockets is a good resource b.t.w.
Gubi99 said:
Hi, ordered my Pad 2GB/16GB/3G at Aliexpress dot com. Very quick delivery from China to Germany within 5 days.
But the Power adaptor is the China version....
My Pad is rooted already and I can use Ad blocker, remove some Software I dont like and so on.
But the Firmware needs some optimization. Not all works perfect ....
Sent from my MediaPad 10 FHD using xda premium
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can you provide link through pm? thanks!
Struggling a bit here, I cannot for the life of me get the device rooted via Fastboot. The command simply reboots the device, I have enabled the OEM unlock feature so should be all good to go from that perspective. The key combinations only get it into recovery.
Any suggestions?
invertgoat said:
Struggling a bit here, I cannot for the life of me get the device rooted via Fastboot. The command simply reboots the device, I have enabled the OEM unlock feature so should be all good to go from that perspective. The key combinations only get it into recovery.
Any suggestions?
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I spoke with Oppo UK some months ago and the bootloaders are apparently locked on the CPH1919.
So... unfortunately no is the short answer
There are softwares to supposedly do this, but I've not heard of fastboot being a method for this device.
The one I've heard of is Qfil (Qualcomm Flash Image loader Tool) which is available with a simple Google search. Latest version is 2.0.2.3...
...is the longer and more complicated route.
Good luck. Let us know how you get on bro.
moozer said:
I spoke with Oppo UK some months ago and the bootloaders are apparently locked on the CPH1919.
So... unfortunately no is the short answer
There are softwares to supposedly do this, but I've not heard of fastboot being a method for this device.
The one I've heard of is Qfil (Qualcomm Flash Image loader Tool) which is available with a simple Google search. Latest version is 2.0.2.3...
...is the longer and more complicated route.
Good luck. Let us know how you get on bro.
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That's too bad. I'm not too much of a techie so I won't risk it with QFIL. An Ad infested device is better than a bricked one. Playing with my old device, a rooted ad-free experience is simply a joy to behold....
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That's too bad. I'm not too much of a techie so I won't risk it with QFIL. An Ad infested device is better than a bricked one. Playing with my old device, a rooted ad-free experience is simply a joy to behold....
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Ad infested? Is that normal for your country? Which country are you in?
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Ad infested? Is that normal for your country? Which country are you in?
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Bojo land unfortunately much like yourself. I mean, it's not so much like I'm being bombarded by push notification heaven forbid. It's just most website have crappy ads that Android Chrome allows (this one included) which were previously beautiful hollow, white empty spaces. Most of it gets past Blockada but at least it's not tracked crap from my browsing history (the very pits)
invertgoat said:
Bojo land unfortunately much like yourself. I mean, it's not so much like I'm being bombarded by push notification heaven forbid. It's just most website have crappy ads that Android Chrome allows (this one included) which were previously beautiful hollow, white empty spaces. Most of it gets past Blockada but at least it's not tracked crap from my browsing history (the very pits)
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Okay.
Strange
I use YouTube Vanced - no adverts, Microsoft Edge with AdBlock plus and Chrome with Ad blockers enabled. I mainly used Edge as it's now Chromium based and fast af and can link nicely with all my Microsoft shizzle in one big, happy corporate mindFK
Never have an issue with ads though bud. Check through your settings on your browser's, etc
Quick preamble note: This is a long read, but it's because it's been a long time since I touched a V30. So it's hard for me to put a TLDR synopsis at the bottom like I would normally do.
Hey all. It's been a while since Ive been in this part of the cell-iverse and I'm hoping you current V30 users can catch me up , please and thanks!
So a few days ago, one of my old posts in here got a little traction and it made me nostalgic, so I busted out the old v30 and started playing around with it. And if it were still 3 years ago, I could do no wrong to my trusty V30. Brick it? NBD! I can fix it... But a pandemic and few phones later I'm rusty and behind with all things Root / Magisk etc and even having a tough time remembering why I installed X module or disabled Y module and so on.
Maybe you're wondering, why bother messing with your old device? Well I had forgotten how many features Google had blocked between ol Android 8 and 13, and it turns out I really missed some of those and want to mess around with them. But, since updating or installing anything current could mean death for my 30, I'm hoping I can post my current Magisk config here and some kind folks will alert me as to what I should and shouldn't do / update / upgrade.
Specs:
Sprint (not currently connected to any network, and disabled anything I could think of to avoid getting hit by a TMo or Google Update)
LG-LS998
Android 8.0
security patch January 1 2019
build # OPR1.170623.026
SW: LS99827a
If anyone has a suggestion for what I need to disable to be sure it won't shadily get nerfed by Google, please let me know (auto updates/ota updates should be disabled still, but only by whatever standard we were using 3 years ago)
So first biggie is: Can I update Magisk? Currently I'm running 23.0 and its recommending an update to 25.2
Anyone know if this is going to be a compatibility issue?
As it stands, my Magisk Hide ft. seems to be working for everything i had it set up before. But I did install an old copy of an old APK and hide it, and Play is kinda having a fit about it and sending me notifications even after hiding it. (I dont think Im allowed to use the name of the app here, so I guess all I can say is Google has always tried to ban it and it's the same version as before but now they can see its installed somehow)
Ok, so let's talk modules....
Currently only looking at one possible update. That's for the dialer framework for the Google Phone. Now I know Google has opened up availability to their dialer to most phones now, maybe all of them. But I don't know if it's backwards compatible all the way to 8. I also don't know if updating the dialer framework will actually make it work. So any advice there is welcome.
Modules loaded & their status :
Abd & fastboot for Android NDK. Enabled.
Seems to be working fine. Or at least not causing an issue. I haven't run any log cats yet though. (Prob should , will do soon)
Anxious V30 v324 / Disabled.
I do remember I loved her mods that she was putting out. And then I remember a bunch of people giving her a hard time and she stopped releasing them which was a shame. But I don't remember why I disabled it so for now it's staying disabled unless someone has some info for me.
App systemizer (terminal emulator) / enabled
Seems to be running fine, but I completely forget how to actually use it and I'm going to have to read up on that again. But if anyone has any notes for me like that it doesn't work anymore please feel free to give me a heads up.
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Okay well I just realized there's like 19 more of these and this is already so long I don't know if anyone's going to care to read it LOL... So I'm just going to stop here for now and see if this post gets any kind of traction or if anyone has any kind of insight before I take the time of writing out the rest of these. Or at least wait to edit this till I'm on a computer and not just my phone. But a definitely need some info on things like APP OPS, which is no longer working for me, & things like Riru & SUI which I just read up on a little but am not sure will work on OS 8.
But for now any insights anybody has are welcome. Would love to hear from any of you that have been active in the last few years to now.
Personal Throwback Note: I love that all of my wifi scanners actually work now, I can review and diagnose my own network and the apps on my own phone and what their sending and where.. And that I can share files, cast, beam, and just about send anything anywhere I want, like the old days.
It's amazing how badly Google nerfed all of these things since back then.
Are you planning on connecting this to a carrier, or just using it on Wifi or something?
Generally speaking, I would recommend moving to the latest US998 ROM, as it seems to be the most cross-compatible and capable. UNLESS you're going to put it on a carrier, like VZW, in which case you would want the VZW ROM instead, to allow VOLTE/VOWIFI to work. I think other carriers may not be as tricky about these, which is why US998 should work, but I'm not sure myself (I'm a VZW MVNO user).
As for Magisk, the last I heard was that you can update it after you've installed it. In other words, you can't install newer versions via TWRP, but if you install 18.x (whichever it was - I forget, check the WTF thread) then you can let the Android manager update it. Last I think I did was to 22 or something. Basically, give it a try and see what happens - worst case, drop back into TWRP, use the Magisk remover, and then reinstall the old 18.x... it should recover with that.
I'm not sure of modules. I didn't use too many... I found Magisk modules to cause lots of problems, so I stopped using them. That may be why you disabled Anxious' module... because it's out of date now anyway.
I'm curious, what are you "missing" from the newer Android versions? I'm curious... because I don't mind it much. Things have moved. Some things have been "automated"... but that happens with every OS... change is part of the game.
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Are you planning on connecting this to a carrier, or just using it on Wifi or something?
Generally speaking, I would recommend moving to the latest US998 ROM, as it seems to be the most cross-compatible and capable. UNLESS you're going to put it on a carrier, like VZW, in which case you would want the VZW ROM instead, to allow VOLTE/VOWIFI to work. I think other carriers may not be as tricky about these, which is why US998 should work, but I'm not sure myself (I'm a VZW MVNO user).
As for Magisk, the last I heard was that you can update it after you've installed it. In other words, you can't install newer versions via TWRP, but if you install 18.x (whichever it was - I forget, check the WTF thread) then you can let the Android manager update it. Last I think I did was to 22 or something. Basically, give it a try and see what happens - worst case, drop back into TWRP, use the Magisk remover, and then reinstall the old 18.x... it should recover with that.
I'm not sure of modules. I didn't use too many... I found Magisk modules to cause lots of problems, so I stopped using them. That may be why you disabled Anxious' module... because it's out of date now anyway.
I'm curious, what are you "missing" from the newer Android versions? I'm curious... because I don't mind it much. Things have moved. Some things have been "automated"... but that happens with every OS... change is part of the game.
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Thank you for the info! This will definitely give me a starting point Tomorrow as I will be attempting to reload my most recent back up and get back up and running. (Yes, I have been smited by the update gods)
I was planning to keep it as a network testing device and not activate on a carrier. But that was a shortlived dream.
As for what's missing since the older versions, I can only give vague examples due to my own level of non-expertise in these areas... But the short answer is connections, ports and just overall access and compatibility within the devices itself and with other products. My current device (Samsung s22 ultra) can barely cast to my tv. While my V30 when it was working well, could basically cast or connect to any device in my home. Plus full dlna access. I could also use the old versions of my network apps to see every piece of data coming and going on my network. (This is possible today with apps that do so by acting as a VPN, but back in 2019 it was accessable by any app that could put out a "get" command). And there was more customizable settings for things like GPS (remember when we could choose between 3 different versions of location access?)
I should also say that I prob misspoke by blaming the os versions. After having my V30 nerfed out of root in under 2 hrs of usage, I'm now pretty sure the features I was referring to have been removed with security updates and not full os updates.
I tried, unsuccessfully, to block play services from installing a 550mb "security "update that they claimed was going to ensure my VOLTE would work after January 1st 2022. (Even though my VOLTE was already enabled and working fine as far back as 2019). I took a screenshot that I need to get off the device before re flash. I was trying to pull the update file so I could dig through it, but not install. Things went poorly lol.
But anyway, stay tuned, as I know that was a half ass answer and poor explanation, but when I have some time tomorrow, I'm going to reply here with a full write up on the differences, screenshots, and whatever else I can come up with.
I'm sure this will prob only be interesting to about 4 of us, so this is mostly going to be for my own curiosity and I don't expect to really achieve much, but please feel free to jump in with any questions or comments or point out anything I get wrong, as I'm happy to have company on my tinkering through tech time journey.
I have an S10+ now... and I'm quite happy with it. The key is that I gave up root to be on this... I had root on the V30. I know many complain about losing root, and I get it... I'd certainly prefer to have it. However, fact is, I really don't miss it. Yes, things are different without root, but you can do most things without it. But, that's just my take on it...
Without a carrier, I'd say do US998. I forgot to mention, I would recommend sticking to a non-Pie version of the OS as well. Pie was released on these phones, but it wasn't reliable from what I heard. I never went to it, and stuck with Oreo. The version numbers would be 20-ish for Oreo, and 30-ish for Pie. I did see that the US998 might be a bit better on Pie, but I knew VS996 (VZW ROM) was not great, which is why I stayed off it.
Yes, various things were removed with app updates and Google services updates. For example, call recording is being blocked these days, from what I've been reading. That's partly why I have not updated my S10+ either... it's on Android 11. I still use the same old app I used ages ago on my V30 and it works great, so why bother, you know?
I expect OTA OS updates are gone... and being off a carrier you won't get them anyway. So I don't think you need to worry about that specifically, but app updates will happen, of course... potentially. Just remember that with root you can uninstall the update and push an older version (from APKpure, for example) so I'm not sure I'd worry about that so much?
My V30 is using US998 as its base on Android Pie. US998 runs VoWifi and VoLTE well.
I'm still running Magisk 22.1 on mine. You only really need to update Magisk if you're using a newer Android version. I only run three modules: ACC, Systemless Hosts and Systemless TZData.
On the Google side, disable Play Store and uninstall all Google Play Services updates. Then run Aurora Store as its replacement. That way, Play Store will not auto-update Play Services.
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My V30 is using US998 as its base on Android Pie. US998 runs VoWifi and VoLTE well.
I'm still running Magisk 22.1 on mine. You only really need to update Magisk if you're using a newer Android version. I only run three modules: ACC, Systemless Hosts and Systemless TZData.
On the Google side, disable Play Store and uninstall all Google Play Services updates. Then run Aurora Store as its replacement. That way, Play Store will not auto-update Play Services.
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I'm curious what carrier do you use, where you are getting VoWIFI and VoLTE on stock US998 firmware? Originally T-mobile (and their MVNOs) allowed VoWIFI on US998, but with carrier system updates post-Sprint merger that reportedly went away. First with newer SIM cards and then even for those who stubbornly stayed on older SIM cards, by carrier side server changes.
ChazzMatt said:
I'm curious what carrier do you use, where you are getting VoWIFI and VoLTE on stock US998 firmware?
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Oh, I should have mentioned I'm in Canada. Currently on Freedom Mobile. I made a post about this here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...unctional-and-available.3834267/post-87838705. Forgot that the mobile situation in the US is different
Greetings all.
Merry Christmas / Happy Hanukkah, and so on to everyone. Apologies on my delay, my timeline was interrupted by the obligatory holiday errands and what not. Hoping to have some time tomorrow to finally post some screen grabs and a write up over the next day or two.
Have a great weekend everyone!
I hate being the guy that doesn't follow through with his plans/posts, but I definitely overestimated my free time around this time of year (I work in the entertainment industry and in the tech industry simultaneously, so end of year is a bit double down crazy for me) So I still haven't had a chance to boot up my V30 again since that first day I used it and lost root (somehow OTA) in a matter of hours.
But that's said, all of this has created a new interest for me, and it will prob turn into a post elsewhere in the forum down the road, but for now I'll expand on it here since it's mildly related and stemmed from my curiosity about features being lost over time...
I've been noticing, almost daily, that Google is restricting more and more parts of the Android OS. Curious if the rest of you have noticed this as well.
On my current device, an update from this past week, restricted general access to the Android > Data folder.
Now I'm all for better security on our devices, but a change that big out of the blue has major effects on the average user.
My personal example: an app I use for songs and separate app that I use for video, both got firewalled with this change. They can both still operate and save files to their default locations inside the data folder. But now I cannot reach it through a file manager, or the app I was using to sort media on my device. That app now cannot see any media that isn't in the general download, music, video, or documents folders.
But the real problem is neither can my video or audio players.
The newest security does allow the "Data" folders to be accessed when done so through a computer. But what a hassle that is. Especially if you're like me and have always cheaped out and bought the smaller storage option devices. Back when expandle storage worked properly that was an easy fix, and after that and until now its always been fairly easy to push excess files to a cloud drive. But with this new change, making files invisible to file managers, you can literally fill your whole phone with media without realizing it's hidden somewhere and the only way to find what's taking up space now is to connect to a computer, or to open individual apps and check their own defined storage. App by app. Ughh.
I know this complaining is a bit off topic, but TBH I wouldn't even know where to start a post about general annoyances with over zealous security policies. I'm sure some of the devs here will be posting about it in their app threads soon if not already. And I have already seen a couple apps on my device update with half way work arounds to combat these changes. But, if this is the direction things are going, it's only a matter of time before any loophole is closed and that's no longer an option for devs. Personally, I'm planning to root my current device as soon as I have an hour or two, and will prob only be purchasing devices I know can be rooted going forward. I just refuse to wait around while the growing pains associated with this big of a change ripple through each app and developer, and everyone finally sorts out their stuff.
This is just another example of Google cutting off access to parts of the device I paid for and was using, ota, with no choice in the matter.
I know I prob sound like a lunatic, but it's lunacy to me how often and how many of these kind of changes have happened in just the last few months, especially after just starting this thread and airing out similar concerns.
And don't even get me started on the whole "tv play store app policies" vs "regular app store apps policies" and all the changes happening there (they crippled live channels + and I now have to purchase some apps twice to use it on my phone & tv!?!?)
(Btw if anyone, member or mod, has a suggestion on where I can start a thread about this just to discuss it, please let me know. As this issue is spreading and even if it hasn't been noticed by everyone yet, it's sure to affect everyone in some way soon. I.e. apps, particularly, paid apps, that no longer function and essentially won't be able to function. Google just made 1000s of apps worthless, with no recourse for the developers or the users who paid their hard earned money for them).
Interesting side note: I did find a hidden developer menu on my current samsung device that grants access to some of what was taken away from "wif related" apps. I had assumed the functionality was removed altogether but then was surprised to see the OS can still pull up a lot of what was banned from apps. For anyone interested, I'll be making a post on the Samsung forum later and will post an updated link to it here.
Hi,
I lost my Samsung S9, so my parents gave me a new LG G5 phone as a replacement. Still in box with all the screen protector, wrappers, etc. because they already had a phone at the time and never ended up using it. So it's basically a brand new phone, with an ancient Oreo Android 8.0 OS. It's a zippy phone, and it's lovely to have a battery sit at 100% for hours on standby (whereas my daily-use Samsung S9 would drop to 99% after a 15 minutes of standby)
All would be fine, except there's two apps I use that need Android 10 - DUO authenticator (which I need for work) and Lastpass.
So I started looking into upgrading the OS, and found these forums. I'd be fine with switching to a custom ROM, but have a few questions:
What custom mod would you recommend for someone merely looking for Android 10 compatibility? I've read that one can lose hardware functionality with custom roms...what are the "known issues"?
Does anyone know whether Lastpass or DUO install on these custom roms?
I'm also happy for someone to just send me a link somewhere that can answer these questions!
Thanks!
chut7 said:
Hi,
I lost my Samsung S9, so my parents gave me a new LG G5 phone ......
So I started looking into upgrading the OS, and found these forums. I'd be fine with switching to a custom ROM, but have a few questions:
What custom mod would you recommend for someone merely looking for Android 10 compatibility? I've read that one can lose hardware functionality with custom roms...what are the "known issues"?
Does anyone know whether Lastpass or DUO install on these custom roms?
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Which G5 are you talking about?
If it's a new H850 the bootloader is not any longer unlockable as LG ceased that service.
My unlocked H850 did loose only FM (didn't find any app working with it) and is working fine with lineage-18.1-20220320-nightly-h850-signed.
Don't know about DUO but Lastpass shouldn't care about a non-stock ROM.
Btw did you hear/read about the Lastpass security breach? Wouldn't trust them any longer.
Agree with that last statement. They have been caught lying and half-truths since the hack/breach so I would ditch them to another service and now change your passwords.
Hi, thanks for the replies. But I've solved the problem by getting a used Samsung S20.
But I'm still curious about updating my LG-G5 phone (H831) to make it somewhat software-compatible. I guess my question was more about what Android version is equivalent to Lineage-18.1 . DUO and Lastpass needed Android 10, and I don't know what version of Android Lineage-18.1 (or any of the other custom roms) are branched from.
As for choice of password manager, what are y'all using? I need an Android, iPhone, and web client.
Looks like I can't even consider a modded rom .
I found a post that says:
H831 = Canadian market. Bootlocked. Can't be rooted.
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As for choice of password manager, what are y'all using? I need an Android, iPhone, and web client.
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I'm using Keepass and used to have the database on my AVM attached NAS (accessible from via mobile as well).
Now I've switched to store that on an online-storage of my mail provider where I have read/write access as well.
Using either Keepass2android on my android devices and Keepass2 on my Linux Mint 21 system.
Quite easy to configure and always working.
There should be an app for Iphone available which can work with kdbx files.